Ask Ubuntu General Room

charanraj

16:00

but I end up getting the prompt saying something like start the server
when I try to execute the following line
shell> scripts/mysql_install_db --user=mysql

Marco Ceppi

glow.mozilla.org

Stefano Palazzo

wow that is cool

charanraj

16:20

@MarcoCeppi super Like !

sadmicrowave

hey, how can I chgrp of an fstab mounted drive from the root group to a group of my choice?

Marco Ceppi

16:42

group=<group> in the optsions line

pretty sure that's it

sadmicrowave

16:54

I'm wondering how to tell if that worked. if I do a ls -l I still see
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 2011-03-21 10:48 uslonsapp002

now I could modify my group to have write access then do a ls -l again and see if that line then has write access....but how do I do that?

scratch that, the second instance of 'root' is the group that this is in

@MarcoCeppi so adding group=webgroup to my fstab options didn't work

Octavian Damiean

@sadmicrowave have you already tried to assign that directory another user and usergroup?

sadmicrowave

found more - instead of using group=[groupname] use gid=[groupname] and uid=[username]

now I have the following:
drwxr-xr-x 1 www-data webgroup 0 2011-03-21 10:48 uslonsapp002

Octavian Damiean

you know actually the best thing you could do is to not use NTFS at all

sadmicrowave

@OctavianDamiean I have to point to this drive, sorry, no way around it

Octavian Damiean

:(

yea too bad

sadmicrowave

17:04

so...my file_put_contents() command is still not working but I think it is because the group access for that mount is r-x

and it should be rwx

@OctavianDamiean, sound right?

Octavian Damiean

@sadmicrowave well whats the user that is trying to write in that directory?

isn't it www-data?

sadmicrowave

yes

Octavian Damiean

in that case it should work

sadmicrowave

well, just for grins, how do I go about changing a group to have rwx?

groupmod 777 webgroup?

my fstab now looks like this:
//128.251.108.18/common /home/lv_admin/uslonsapp002 cifs cred=/etc/.na02passwd,rw,umask=0000,uid=www-data,gid=webgroup 0 0

Octavian Damiean

check that out

3

Q: 'chmod u+x' versus 'chmod +x'

What is the difference between chmod u+x and just chmod +x? I have seen a ton of tutorials that say to use u+x to make scripts executable. However, the u is not mentioned in the chmod help or manual. Omitting the u doesn't seem to have any effect either. Is it just a deprecated argument? Thanks.

in your case it is not a+x but chmod g+rw file

you can't assign a group a certain permission as it is file based, or at least I don't know any way to add a permission set to a group

meh I totally fail today

sadmicrowave

17:11

so what if instead of file i use folder so g+rw /dir/to/mount

where g is the group name? or how do I specify the group name?

Octavian Damiean

you don't specify a groupname there

you've already specified the group ownership of that file

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo I had to flag a comment now that is now out of date

Octavian Damiean

listen I gotta run but I'll be back in max. an hour and then I'll try to explain it ;)

Jorge Castro

can you delete it? this questions about to go tweetinsane

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro its gone

Jorge Castro

17:21

ta!

Stefano Palazzo

I spent the last half hour looking at the live cd loading screen and listening to tom waits ;-)

until I realised I could press cltr-alt-sysrq+k

Jorge Castro

18:08

@StefanoPalazzo we'll have a PPA soon!

ken totally fixed everything

and made it so we don't need to run the .py by hand

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro and this Dee.py business works too?

Jorge Castro

yeah

we don't need that step anymore

you can remove it from the readme

Stefano Palazzo

wow nice!

lazyPower

Good afternoon everyone

Stefano Palazzo

hello @lazyPower

well I'd like to test all of that, but today, nothing is working for me somehow..

Octavian Damiean

18:23

@sadmicrowave I'm back now. Right. The permission

like I said you set the ownership of a file (a directory is also a file) with the chown command. With the chmod command you modify the permissions for for the given owner and group (and for all others)

that is roughly how it works

Jorge Castro

18:52

@StefanoPalazzo there's a merge proposal from ken in your inbox/lp

@StefanoPalazzo fixes us up

Stefano Palazzo

thanks for the ping, I'll take a look at it now

@JorgeCastro awesome, ken rocks

Octavian Damiean

meh on StackOverflow they seem to have forgotten that there is an upvote function or at least on the Android tag

Marco Ceppi

@OctavianDamiean android.stackexchange.com ?

Octavian Damiean

@MarcoCeppi oh no I'm talking about Android development

on SO

that site is like SuperUsers but for Android

that is the answer I'm talking about stackoverflow.com/questions/5392587/…

yay I got one up-vote :D

Marco Ceppi

19:12

@OctavianDamiean You're welcome :P

Octavian Damiean

:D

I should start to promote my top Android answers on Twitter :p

lol

extreme type fail

meh I should move on to another tag maybe, jQuery looks funny :)

oh yea tomorrow and the day after is Ubuntu cloud days :)

\o/

Jorge Castro

19:30

@StefanoPalazzo ok I went bold and renamed it on lp to drop the e.

@StefanoPalazzo also, ken's packaging is done!

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro hey how did you do that? :-D

Jorge Castro

heh

ok, recipe all set, all I need now is for you to merge his fixes, stepping out for a snack, poke me when you're all set and I'll kick off a build!

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro Will do! It'll be another 20 minutes or so, I'm having bad luck with natty today

Jorge Castro

heh

hey the Dee we need for it to work is in the archive (got uploaded today)

so you will need to do an upgrade

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo have you got any response on the sponsorship yet?

Stefano Palazzo

19:37

That's what I feared ;-)

@OctavianDamiean nope, I think they'll start to contact people on the 29th iirc

Octavian Damiean

ah ok

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo It'd be nice if I found out on my birthday that I got a sponsorship

htorque

नमस्ते

Stefano Palazzo

@OctavianDamiean Ah I think I got it wrong, the deadline is the 29th, no idea when they'll contact people

@MarcoCeppi heh cool

htorque

\o/ dash fonts have finally been fixed - looking crisp now

Stefano Palazzo

19:41

the new ubuntu font variant is pretty rocking too

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo you meant the Ubuntu light one?

htorque

@StefanoPalazzo do want monospace

Stefano Palazzo

yes and YES :-)

Marco Ceppi

Whew! Someone is on a tag wiki writing spree!

Octavian Damiean

@htorque indeed that will rock, Ubuntu font for programmers :D

James Gifford

19:51

@MarcoCeppi You're welcome. :)

Alvar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1jB4hVJRg
This is awesome! :D

Octavian Damiean

why exactly is it awesome?

Alvar

it's so funny :)

htorque

because dude owns a whiteboard!

Alvar

why do you buy three ps3?

Octavian Damiean

19:56

@htorque that was what I really thought was awesome!

Alvar

it's just so pointless

Octavian Damiean

I want a blackboard or whiteboard too!

htorque

i want one of those glass things

Alvar

I want a blackboard that you can flip!

:P

Octavian Damiean

meh I don't care about the PS3s I want that whiteboard

@Alvar oh that'd be nice

Alvar

19:58

@OctavianDamiean ps3 is a bit 2009 I want the new macbook pro :P

Octavian Damiean

ohno not again

lets keep talking about white and blackboards :p

Alvar

@OctavianDamiean ;) just a joke ;)

this is how a whiteboard should be ;)

►

Octavian Damiean

it would be cool if it would be on Ubuntu (or other distros) but Windows ... meh

Alvar

@OctavianDamiean well the program is good, but it's a bit old....

Octavian Damiean

and there is another problem with that one, it needs power, a real whiteboard doesn't :)

Alvar

20:03

tsss

don't you have a computer? LOL

Octavian Damiean

well yea but I don't leave mine running all day

why would I?

Alvar

@OctavianDamiean why would you leave it running? don't get it...

Octavian Damiean

well on a whiteboard you can have your current idea, diagram, favorite llama or whatever whenever you need it, you just look at it and it is there, on a computer you don't as you'd have to boot it up

Alvar

well how many whiteboards can you fit into a room, and how many computers do you need for the same ammount? 1 cpu alot more whiteboards

James Gifford

whiteboards are better. I can see what's happening with a whiteboard easier than I can with the same info on a computer.

Octavian Damiean

20:08

why would you need more than one whiteboard anyway? You don't even need such a big one as you have only one guy looking at it not an entire class room :D

blackboards and whiteboards in schools are not that big because it is cool but because the guys in the last row want to see the stuff on the board too

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro the name-switch hasn't gone well somewhere, it looks all fine, but when I try to merge it complains that the misspelled trunk is not a branch

Jorge Castro

ugh

I knew I shouldn't have done that

one sec

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro well once this has been solved, I'm glad you did

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo just push with bzr push lp:newprojectname

LP should be able to know it's the same repo

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi do you mean I should check out the prosed branch and push it into the project branch?

Marco Ceppi

20:16

@StefanoPalazzo Nope

Okay - you're in your code branch

you just merged the new code from whomever

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi nah, I can't merge it

Marco Ceppi

Now when you bzr push Bazaar goes all wonky. Just do bzr push lp:whatever where whatever == new project name and it should just publish

@StefanoPalazzo Oh

Stefano Palazzo

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ bzr branch lp:askubuntu-lens
Branched 12 revision(s).
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cd askubuntu-lens/
ubuntu@ubuntu:~/askubuntu-lens$ bzr merge lp:~ken-vandine/askubuntu-lens/add_distutils
bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stefano-palazzo/askubuntu-lense/trunk/".

this is what it looks like

makes sense, probably something in .bzr that still contains the old name

but I daren't change anything in there (:

Jorge Castro

ok

he's telling me to rename it back

ok renamed

try now!

Stefano Palazzo

one sec

Octavian Damiean

20:20

righto I'm going to buy a glass top and put it on my wall. Perfect whiteboard :D

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro okay, done

Jorge Castro

ok did you push and stuff?

I think you'll have to repull

afterwards I mean

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro yes, I did that, worked well

Jorge Castro

ok, renaming back

Stefano Palazzo

I'm going to push a trivial change to see if everything still works

@JorgeCastro right, everything's good. I'm really sorry about all this trouble, next time I'll make sure my spelling is correct, before registering a project!

Jorge Castro

20:27

no need to apologize!

it's our fault for renaming the stupid things. :)

fluteflute

@JorgeCastro do you know if Lenses might get incorporated into the Dash proper?

Jorge Castro

it does

fluteflute

Like if there was Banshee lens then searching in the main dash would find songs

Jorge Castro

when you search it searches the lenses you have installed

fluteflute

Oh okay :)

Jorge Castro

20:28

the top dash thing is like a summary lens when you start typing

fluteflute

Oh I understand now,

"Dash is very constrained to do text and facet searching. It's not for browsing photos, or browsing music or anything like that." confused me

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo ok building the PPA now.

Stefano Palazzo

now I need to figure out how to run my own program :P

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo wait, you can try the PPA!

code.launchpad.net/~jorge/+recipe/askubuntu-lens-daily

building ...

@StefanoPalazzo ok so I was thinking this, create a team called "askubuntu-tools" or something

and then put me, george, and you in it

Stefano Palazzo

that's a good idea

Jorge Castro

20:31

that way we can have one PPA for both tools

and we can just put the PPA builds in one place.

(I will change the recipe to put it in that PPA once it's done building in mine and I can test it)

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro there we are: launchpad.net/~askubuntu-tools

I better leave a message

@GeorgeEdison you're now an administrator of askubuntu-tools, use your powers wisely ;-)

Jorge Castro

ok so I think now you hand over the project to the team

theoretically that should let me create a project-PPA

or do you see a link anywhere for a ppa?

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro so I'm going to appoint the team as the project driver, correct?

Jorge Castro

yeah

htorque

Спокойной ночи!

Jorge Castro

20:43

@StefanoPalazzo can you do a grep and see if there's any "lense" left in trunk?

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro yeah there is

Takkat

Hi all back

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo ok rename them all to be right and push, and I'll do the same on the packaging branch

Stefano Palazzo

okay, just give me a sec I'm on the phone :\

oke done that @JorgeCastro, i hope I didn't make a mistake, I'm slightly preoccupied at the minute

Jorge Castro

heh

the stupid rename is taking longer than you spent writing it, hah

Manish Sinha

20:52

@JorgeCastro what is the base package for Unity?

any idea?

Jorge Castro

unity

Manish Sinha

This guy wants to know

1

A: Will I be able to remove Unity and Zeitgeist completely?

Yes, you can remove both. When you remove them, you will get a warning that the package ubuntu-desktop is getting uninstall. Don't worry it is just a wrapper package. For removing zeitgeist you need to remove the package named zeitgeist-core which is the base of all the zeitgeist packages. Ju...

Thanks

Jorge Castro

I don't think removing it will remove all the parts

Manish Sinha

which part wont

Jorge Castro

might need to remove unity-place-application and -files

Manish Sinha

20:55

in short it should

Jorge Castro

(check the package names)

Manish Sinha

should not these be dependent on the base package unity?

Jorge Castro

not sure

that's what I'm saying, you'd need to check

probably the same for libnux too

Manish Sinha

unity-place-applications depends on libzeitgeist

Jorge Castro

though tbh the person would be better off just switching the autologin session to classic than trying to remove things

Manish Sinha

20:57

yeah

and libzeitgeist depends on zeitgeist which depends on zeitgeist-core

Stefano Palazzo

21:16

@JorgeCastro So, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out where all the files go and things, where can I check out what the .deb does, so I can write a small build&run script for when I'm hacking?

and remove the README, replace it with HACKING

Jorge Castro

one sec

@StefanoPalazzo create a file, call it askubuntu-lens.recipe

keep it outside your source tree

code.launchpad.net/~jorge/+recipe/askubuntu-lens-daily

put the recipe content at the bottom in that file

bzr dailydeb askubuntu-lens.recipe working-dir

will spit out debs for you

Stefano Palazzo

mh @JorgeCastro says "unknown command: dailydeb"

Jorge Castro

sorry you need to install bzr-builder

one sec, let me test it out for you

ah in the recipe the format needs to be .2 not .3 too

ugh one sec, I need to ken's help to sort this

Stefano Palazzo

sure, take your time, I'll figure out how to install bzr-builder (having a bit of trouble with enabling software sources)

Jorge Castro

hey

I think using setup.py should just work anyway

Stefano Palazzo

21:28

@JorgeCastro well it adds the launcher icon alright, but that's it - the deamon doesn't seem to be running and the files don't end up where they're supposed to be after running setup.py

Jorge Castro

did you restart unity?

Stefano Palazzo

I'll check again

@JorgeCastro I was mistaken, it looks like setup.py is doing it's job! Still no Icon, and no feedback from the lens. Also, the dailydeb command fails like this:

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ bzr dailydeb askubuntu-lens.recipe
Building tree.
Retrieving 'lp:askubuntu-lens' to put at '/tmp/bzr-builder-TU5ZYr/askubuntu-lens-{debupstream}-0~{revno}'.
Retrieving 'lp:~ken-vandine/askubuntu-lens/add_packaging' to put at '/tmp/bzr-builder-TU5ZYr/askubuntu-lens-{debupstream}-0~{revno}/debian'.
bzr: ERROR: No previous changelog to take the package name from, and --package not specified: debian/changelog was not present.

Jorge Castro

yeah I know it fails, sorting it out with ken right now

fixed that

now just need to sort this debupsrteam part

@StefanoPalazzo I am close!

bear with me!

Stefano Palazzo

allrighty :)

Roland Taylor

anyone here have ff4 knowledge?

Stefano Palazzo

21:41

@RolandTaylor what sort of knowledge are you after? I'm just running it

Alvar

I have an 64 % accept rate! :D

James Gifford

Why do we have both a GRUB and GRUB2 tag....? GRUB2 is the only thing that's being used by "modern" systems at this point, right?

Alvar

@JamesGifford well isn't there a unmodern version of ubuntu?

Jorge Castro

yeah

we can symlink it

James Gifford

@Alvar yes there is. But there isn't much point, since for the average joe, there isn't that much difference in how it's setup.

Stefano Palazzo

21:47

when was it replaced? If we symlink them with still supported versions using grub1, we risk making outdated information "appear" correct

Alvar

@JamesGifford well, this is just a hunch but might there be a problem when you ask about the old version?

James Gifford

@StefanoPalazzo 9.10. help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2

Alvar

9.10 is modern! :P

I'm using 8.04 on my server:D

Stefano Palazzo

9.10 is still supported for a few days :)

In any case, that probably means we have a bunch of answers that assume grub not-2

James Gifford

@Alvar It was included for the first time in 9.10.

Alvar

21:49

@JamesGifford aha

well how far back is it supported?

@marcoceppi is there an outdated.stackexchange.com? :)

James Gifford

@Alvar 9.10 is supported until Natty (11.04) comes out in April. So everything that is supported (Except for 8.04 Server) will have GRUB2.

Alvar

ok..

don't really now what software you are talking about but still just to be shore, you could create the tag again right? :P

boost me :P

James Gifford

@Alvar Yes.

Alvar

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Q: Is there an asus webstorage?

hi, Is there an asus webstorage for ubuntu 10.04? I don't want to use wine, because ALL of microsofts softwares sucks. And I realized a moment ago that the free year Asus provides begins when you buy the computer, not when you start using it, very strange. I created my account just a moment ago.

10.04 asus-webstorage

@JamesGifford then remove it, if it's missed then it's created again if it not missed then good for you :D

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar does that second paragraph have anything to do with the question?

I ask, because I've no idea what asus webstorage is

Alvar

21:59

@StefanoPalazzo well

@StefanoPalazzo oh sorry, I will google up an link w8

asuswebstorage.com/navigate/login.jsp?u=https://…

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