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15:00
;)
how about 5 weekends and 2 weekdays?
2 weekdays too many.
aww lol
do you really want to shutdown - Y
posted bug here.
kindly up-vote if feature available.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306403
@katyasehgal good work.
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15:04
sudo shutdown -h
What is the default PDF Reader in 11.10? http://askubuntu.com/q/185132?atw=1 #pdf
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@Takkat i just use the above.
@TheInterrupter that hit the twitter feed yay
@katyasehgal can't upvote it O_O
@jrg I know -_-
@Takkat I call fake on the stickers...
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15:05
and yes, i use a PDF reader to shutdown.
@jrg it need an easy to use gui, bad
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@SirCharlo totally.
parted looks better
@jrg you use a PDF reader to shut down? Are you saying that when ever you open a PDF your computer crashes?
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@TheX yup.
@jrg interesting
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15:06
I'm kind of epic like that
@katyasehgal actually, i just voted with 5 votes
what kinda feature is that??!
@jrg if you say so...
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@SirCharlo ok, so i'm lost. I can't find the option that you mentioned earlier
-icds - and yes, i'm in expert mode.
@jrg but are you an expert?
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@TheX No. Is anyone?
15:10
@jrg I am... or at least I claim to be (nobody knows the difference)
@jrg "Skip checking destination disk size before creating partition table" ?
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oh, so you do it that way - i was going to do the ISO route. shrug
@jrg did you try simply making the win partition smaller than 80gb in the first place?
@jrg it would be even better
@jrg (with, say, gparted)
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@SirCharlo i'd rather not screw with partition maps on a drive with bad sectors...
it's likely that it'd be fine, and i'd do it with my own data - but not with someone elses.
15:13
Wait... what was the original problem>?
@jrg oh, its not yours.. i get ya
@jrg once the imaging is done, id also try a file level copy, for what its worth.
@jrg and make sure to test the image before shipping the drive away.. its no good if your image is unreadable after all
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@SirCharlo its out of warranty, so what we're doing is picking up a new one and then just doing a swap.
@jrg oh, thats good, at least you always have access to the original
Yeah I would just clone, replace, and be done with it.... it isn't worth messing with bad sectors, and the HD is probably going to fail at some point anyways
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@SirCharlo should I do -rescue? "Continue reading next one when disk blocks read errors"
(I found -icds)
15:17
@jrg yep
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@SirCharlo And yeah, having access to the original is nice. I don't throw out hard drives. Ever. I just smash them with sledgehammers after about a year.
ok, i can't see anything else that could be useful.
lets go. :)
@jrg lets hope it works! :)
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Q: Should we close questions that aren't well asked, even if it's obvious what the OP wants?

SirCharloThis is an example. My first reaction was to vote for closure as Not a real question, yet the title says what's wrong, and the OP gave his error message. Therefore, it doesn't really fall in the scope of NARQ as defined in the "Close" popup: It's difficult to tell what is being asked here. ...

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oh really?! "This disk is currently in use." - by what?! You're the only bloody thing running! grumble grumble
strange
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15:24
should i have it try and rebuild the partition map on its own?
youre on your own.. ive never had to do that
i just left everything default and let it fly
@jrg what are you using to make your image?
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@TheX clonezilla
hmm...
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i'd try dd, but since i know the drive has bad sectors i really don't want to do that.
15:26
Personally I use acronis... but that will cost you...
Um...
erm, they had a free livedvd at one point. you may be able to find it archived somewhere
you could try to hook it up to another computer as a secondary HD and see if you can even access the data...
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push comes to shove i can just boot the thing back into safemode, export the quickbooks and the other files, then just rebuild from there. :\
@jrg ddrescue homie...that's what it's built for
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@jokerdino what is that tool that tells you archive info?
15:28
@aking1012 that live disc that you speak of was probably a bootleg... as they don't allow you to just download it...
@thex no they do, actually
@jrg rmadison
Where is it then?
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@jokerdino thanks. aliases it to whatpackageisthis
15:29
@TheX hold on
you can also use apt-cache show package
Because I have been using Acronis for 3 years and have never heard of such a thing...
but that is so not cool
@TheX i'm looking for the question on SU. seems like they pulled it, but there was. which is why i said may find it archived somewhere
@aking1012 they probably pulled it because it was bootlegged.. and therefore against the TOS
15:31
no
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Q: Acronis True Image free/open source alternative

iSidI've installed fresh Windows 7 Ultimate (32bit) on my laptop. I've installed all the application/WindowsUpdates which I wanted to and my system is ready to use. All my other data is now on D: drive. I need to backup image of my system drive (C:) and want to be able to restore it whenever needed. ...

@thex dammit, i was sur
i AM sure, not was sure
@aking1012 that aint acronis
the acronis link was in that one at one point. they had a trial of home
hm i am bored.
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can i create an alias for this? grep -i '^..j.r$' /usr/share/dict/words
the stuff in brackets should be a parameter or something
15:32
@aking1012 a trial is not the same as saying something is free...
goes off to read some bash books.
it's free for 15 days
and then what?
you either buy it, or get rid of it...
yes, but it works for this situation.
don't be dense. he didn't say i want something to install at this business for them to use as a backup solution for ever and ever. he said i need to do this one thing, this one time. a 15 day trial is PERFECT
@aking1012 I am not being dense, I am just being realistically honest...
I never said it wouldn't work, I just said that it isn't free...
15:36
that's a term we're just going to disagree on. he could use it free, and you don't want to be wrong. so you're fighting semantics
cool down everyone
you both are right
Okay fine, let me explain what free means to me... free is something you can use, forever, as much or as little as you want, no strings attached...
@jokerdino, thanks for being the voice of reason... I appreciate it..
free speech, free beer, or... free sip of beer :)
@TheX ... :)
Who gets a free sip of beer? They charge a cover charge usually to sample alcohol, at least they do around here...
15:39
not here
they're always giving away these little cups filled with beer so you can taste it
Where is that? I am moving...
Canada!
@jokerdino :P
Oh Canadian beer, never mind...
15:42
we actullay have alot of great beer brewed locally :)
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BLASTED CANADIANS AND THEIR FREE STUFF!
@jokerdino add to your .bashrc:
wordhunt () {
cat /usr/share/dict/words | grep -i "^$1$"
}
Thanks.
usage: wordhunt pattern
You are a nice guy. I like you.
15:45
@jrg hah! we pay so many taxes
@jrg i should hope that we get some free stuff!
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@SirCharlo yeah, you do pay a lot in taxes.
@jrg although i dont know how it compares to other places.. we pay 15%
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I have friends who moved to the US from Canada, and the paycheck went down but the amount of available cash went up.
@SirCharlo see, you guys have a simple tax system
@SirCharlo cool. thanks!
@jokerdino sure thing
15:47
it is now much easier to do crossword puzzles! huzzah
@jrg yeah, its simple. "oh! you made money! let's take a huge portion of that... oh! you're buying something! we want in on the action! give us some, too!"
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@SirCharlo here it's "Lets see how much money you make. Oh, you make X? Well then, you pay Y. You make Z, you pay A" - so freakin' complicated. ;P
nothing is certain except death and taxes.
@jrg weird
The Federal tax rate in the US is about 30%
yeah but if you make HUUUUGE amount of income, you are exempted from tax.
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15:50
@TheX iirc, nobody pays that though.
@jokerdino only 1% of US citizens fall into that category...
@TheX minux deductions = 15 % :P
@TheX but they make 80% of income :P
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High taxes = big government = I want my money back = I'm moving to The Principality of Sealand.
@jokerdino and that 80% of their income they give nothing back...
15:52
@TheX yeah..
broken capitalistic system
@jokerdino it isn't broken... I just need to become richer...
@jrg have fun in Sealand...
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@jokerdino HEY! It's this broken system that means that because I can do the work, I can get a job. ;P
@jrg :p
we just need to get into that 1%. then we don't care.
hey this gnome-clocks is awesome
gnome-boxes landed in quantal too
15:54
I don't know what the average salary for a Canadian is, but their dollar is worth more then ours... which means you can buy more with less...
Wouldn't it be harder to earn a dollar there?
everyone, quickly tell me your city as i add them to gnome-clocks
@TheX not for long, i bet
@jokerdino bangalore
I don't live in a city...
15:57
Village? Forest? Different Dimension? Different Planet?
@TheX $46,000 a year is the average
Different planet...
@TheX Ta'Xian V'nver 125D14?
@AmithKK Vulcan
15:59
@jokerdino montreal!
@SirCharlo the average national wage is the US is $41,673.83. so you guys make more, and your dollar is worth more...
Whoo, more clocks
@TheX huh
oops. midnight
And we get free beer too!
@jokerdino or noon
16:00
it's midnight here :P
Vulcan was a small planet proposed to exist in an orbit between Mercury and the Sun. In an attempt to explain peculiarities of Mercury's orbit, in the 19th-century French mathematician Urbain Jean Joseph Le Verrier hypothesized that they were the result of another planet, which he named Vulcan. No such planet was ever found, and Mercury's orbit has now been explained by Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity. Argument for Vulcan's existence In 1840, François Arago, the director of the Paris Observatory, suggested to the French mathematician Urbain Jean Joseph Le Verrier that h...
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VULCAN!
@jokerdino youre in singapore?
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It is out there. Waiting.
@SirCharlo yeah
16:01
(it isn't hypothetical, it really is there, I know, I live there.
@jokerdino cool
@jrg ths is the first step to becoming a Citizen of Sealand
O.o
5.99 GBP = 9.59165 USD
wow all that £5.99/6months, how can I resist?
I mean come on... the 400mbs of storage alone is worth that!
@TheX but that's like over 5 cents a day!
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16:05
@SirCharlo I pick that much up just walking along on the road!
I want to be a baron of sealand.
@jrg i should walk more often
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and a sealand ID card.
I can buy a piece of sealand for ten years! - sealandgov.org/title-pack/own-a-piece-of-sealand
That means I can live there for ten years, right?
attention all mac users: Lost Photos is free today! twodollartues.com/deals/friday-freebie-lost-photos
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@aking1012 ddrescue seems to be working.
another backtrack tool put to work saving lives and companies. ;P
i wish i was estonian
16:13
@jrg I will vote for you if you give me free beer
@SirCharlo why?
@TheX dupe
The question you think it dupes does not mention Wubi at all...
be back in a few
16:17
Yeah but the question doesn't specify that the problem is with wubi.
Amos annoy needs to be nuked.
@RolandTaylor ?
It's a user who is trying hard to be annoying.
linky?
I answered his question, and he suggested an edit with "supposedly" in front of something I said because it's "subjective" in his words....
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Q: How can menu bars that require a right click be activated like Ubuntu versions <10.10?

Amos AnnoyI've noticed that NetworkManager only has a single, left or right, click menu and no longer has an About menu option to show it's splash screen. In fact all the top bar mini short cut icons have been amputated and crippled leaving them with no rights. This severely impacts on our custom aps., si...

16:23
@RolandTaylor in that case his user name is appropriate :)
@SirCharlo maybe the tags on the question need to be editied
@SirCharlo :)
@TheX perhaps!
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Q: How can the application that makes an indicator icon be identified?

Amos AnnoyIt used to be possible to identify the application that was responsible for an indicator icon by right-clicking it and selecting the About option in Ubuntu 10.04. How is the application identification for an indicator icon done now in 12.04?

@RolandTaylor explain to me how the following is not a real question?
How can right clicks in menu bars be restored?
16:28
Close as a dupe. He's trying to ask the same crap again.
@TheX because that's not what he wants to know.
Read the entire exchange.
phh I am to lazy
BTW, his comments were deleted, and those paint the truest picture.
He is ranting, he doesn't want answers.
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I RANT
I rant, therefor I am.
@jrg yes, you are the god of ranting...
@TheX are you a mod or something
16:29
@jokerdino don't see the votes. I hope something gets done.
@SirCharlo no but I have been around long enough to know whats going on.
Best thing to do is to close his questions before he gets a chance to go any further.
@TheX Ok, didn't think so
@SirCharlo what is that supposed to mean?
@TheX Huh?
16:30
your comment...
@TheX what comment
1 min ago, by SirCharlo
@TheX Ok, didn't think so
@jokerdino confirm. saw 5 votes. hope others join in too!
@TheX I means I didn't think you were a moderator.
Maybe I will run next election...
@RolandTaylor and I can be running mates
16:33
hey @jokerdino
are you going to flag up all those software-center crashing dupes you mention?
maybe we should make a canonical question?
ouch
interesting choice of banner guy
@SirCharlo it is still a Microsoft product, that in itself is bad enough...
@TheX indeed!
Oh great, Nautilus 3.6 removes the scripts feature...
Time to install nautilus actions.
@TheX Its hard to escape the ecosystem
Although I would use it if it werent a MS product... it is actually kind of cool...
16:38
the UI on it looks awesome
@JorgeCastro it is.
meh
It's like a Metro Windows-8-style-UI Modern UI Style Gmail
@SirCharlo you give it to much credit when you put "gmail" in that statement.
let me fix it for you
It's like a Metro Windows-8-style-UI Modern UI Style hotmail
Put the two side by side. Somebody copied and simplified..
(imao)
Ok but isn't that what Apple does?
16:48
@jrg did you delete those comments?!
sigh not again
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I didn't delete any comments.
I'm going to look like a fool because people won't believe me :/
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And it says there are no deleted comments.
Well some mod deleted almost all of the comments on the previous question he asked...
And now his new question can get away looking like he actually means what he's asking, while I look like a fool.
-_- why is life like this?
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16:49
BBT
Good Night
I sense a fist fight.
@AmithKK good morning.
why post in the comments at all?
o_o stars?
Why post at all anywhere?
Test
16:50
Indeed, that is the question
shrug, I just edited the guys junk out and moved on
The majority of what he did is invisible now. He ranted for about 3 comments, tried to edit my answer to make it say "supposedly" with the reason that my answer is "subjective and misleading" and now he's opened another question so he can continue the same nonsense...
He said the same thing he is asking now in the previous question, and then went on in the comments to add more scope to the whole thing in the form of a rant.
Of course, I am going to sound silly, because no one can see this...
right, that's the point
just remove the silly
I didn't respond to his rant part
If he continues in his way he will be reborn as a stink beetle. Karma is a bitch.
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16:54
I just edited it out of his answer
@jrg awesomeness
@RolandTaylor are we talking about the same fellow from yesterday A A?
@aking1012 yeah
at least one person doesn't think you sound silly
How are we supposed to think he sounds silly if we have never heard his voice?
... reminds me of a fellow i used to work with that answered either or questions with yes just to get my goat
17:00
@aking1012 i believe you
Just asking as a point of clarification.
I had a friend that would answer every yes or no question anyone asked him as "perhaps" pissed me off.
yes, i could see how that would be the case
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@aking1012 yes.
@jrg - I probably should have warned you that ddrescue can seem to run FOREVER, but it is effective. like don't watch it run. just leave it alone overnight
I use to be like dude just tell me no it will piss me of less then you nearing around the bush?
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17:03
@aking1012 it's taking its own sweet time right now, and I'm OK with that. :)
Beating
@TheX edit power
iirc it tries bad sectors 3 times or so and moves on, but that's why it succeeds where dd fails while still not missing stuff
@TheX or just idk...that's an equally valid answer
I can't edit on my phone.
Cat got your tongue?
what a great joke
17:11
Can someone please make vandalizing wikis a capital offence?
@GeorgeEdison :) we've all done it once!
Er... we have?
I have never vandalized a wiki. Speak for youralwf.
Yourself *
@GeorgeEdison well, tried to.. the automated vandalism blocker got me. i was in school, ok? :)
Yahoo messenger needs a ui overhaul it has basically been unchanged since the days of windows xp
hmm it supports tabbed conversations... that is cool... but 10 years behind Pidgin...
17:36
who uses yahoo messenger on windows since trillian came out?
Trillian...
I do at work...
oh...well trillian is the bomb-diggity for windows messaging
Trillian is so 1990
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and to get all the features you have to "go pro"
I have pieces of @jrg steak in between my teeth :(
@RolandTaylor what did I tell you about eating my friends?
17:39
@TheX lol I'm sorry :D
@aking1012 thank you!
you're thanking me for...
Hello!
@William hi
anyone here using php fpm with your web server, expecting it to work if you upgrade to Quantal, should read this: lordoftime.info/?p=39
@William hey
@aking1012 check the arrow
17:42
@RolandTaylor i had to zoom down to text the size of a flea circus, but no problem ;)
@RolandTaylor (out of context) Because it just is?
@LordofTime lol
@aking1012 ;)
so we're in the ubuntu global jam now?
Should I install ubuntu 12.10?
Or should I just stick with Windows 8 Enterprise?
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Q: Automatically start named pipe reader on startup?

qwertyI'm trying to run a script with root access from PHP. I can't do that because Apaches user, www-data, don't have root access because of security reasons. To fix that, i was advised to use a named pipe. I first tried to add sudo permission to www-data, but was told that was definitely not good due...

17:46
@TheX do you use a nvidia graphics card?
umm...
I don't remember what is on my laptop just a sec
If you use one + dual monitors, then upgrading the driver will bork the setup
Mobile Intel...
Oh you're in the clear
I'd install it if I were you
Tux Guitar is no longer maintained :(
Time to switch to ReseGarden.
17:51
and does Wubi work?
@TheX no clue I haven't tried it
@GeorgeEdison RoseGarden.
hmmm ...
when I double click on Wubi it brings up the Ubuntu Menu....
and not the Wubi installer
guess I will have to do it the hard way and find a blank DVD...
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@RolandTaylor :p
@TheX such a pain man, such a pain.
OH THANK GOD HE IS ALIVE!
@jrg it is the only option I have...
@RolandTaylor Oops.
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17:56
Tried USB?
Forgot my flash drive at one of the other schools :-(
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I carry 10.
I use too...
then I got one big one...
32gbs to be exact... between that and drop box what more do I need?
17:58
O_o
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@TheX i have a 16GB and two 4GB with me right now.
I still win...
well except for I don't have any on me...

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