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Alec

00:02

dad takes network switch out of my room

>doesnt realize that i can just plug my main cable into the server, and plug the other cable into my laptop and desktop; and use laptop's wifi for desktop LAC

aking1012

@lazyPower - most of the gui is connected for the screen recorder now

i'm just locking the controls i don't have implemented as a stop-gap to push it out faster

Anwar

good morning

Alec

@Anwar Good afternoon

Anwar

@Prasad I finally got it to work. I had to do some small tweaks

@Alec :)

You live in ...?

Alec

SD,USA

Also I need to go back to sleep, upper respiratory infections suck.

Anwar

00:13

:/

I also got a cold

The Interrupter

How do I download the terminal application for Ubuntu 12.04 in Lubuntu 12.04? http://askubuntu.com/q/185193?atw=1 #lubuntu

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on September 8, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Anwar

Can i install apps from online USC?

lazyPower

00:31

@aking1012 right on :)

Anwar

I have now 404 unread messages :)

lazyPower

Just picked up a Samsung Galaxy S III - not a bad phone I must say. Definite upgrade from my Evo 4G

aking1012

00:50

@lazyPower nice. i'll be on a tablet with skype before i get a smartphone i think

lazyPower

I wouldn't have taken you for the paranoid type :D

Journeyman Geek

lol

@lazyPower: I was using a dumbphone (with a black and white screen) until last month ;p

lazyPower

I've been on the curve - i had a helio ocean - the first pseudo smart phone.. then made a leap to a blackberry pearl to the G1 to some motorola crap droid phone, to the evo and now to the Galaxy S3

I wonder whatever happened to helio...

Journeyman Geek

wikipedia suggests they're gone

lazyPower

ah it got gobbled up by virgin

Journeyman Geek

00:58

MVNOs don't seem to last :/

lazyPower

Well when you're a reseller, and you're battling the 800 lb gorillas in the sandbox its a dog eat dog world

I've found that most companies are founded to be sold.

Journeyman Geek

ooh, thats a cool design

(though ugh, I get irate when hardware is artificially EOLed. Locking phones sucks)

lazyPower

Yeah, i spent quite a bit of time trying to get that brick of a phone to lock onto a different carrier

CDMA networks can be a real pain :|

Journeyman Geek

ya

local carriers tried it and dropped it

though I find the american phone/internet industry somewhat baffling compared to ours

aking1012

@lazyPower oh the tablet instead of phone isn't about paranoia. it's not worth paying for the data plan, when i can piggyback on wireless with a reasonable android tablet. i like that they introduced a droid2global, but i don't see myself heading out of country soon, barring some massive change

lazyPower

01:10

or paranoia attack ;) j/k

Journeyman Geek

@aking1012: or do what my dad does, no data plan, turned off most of the 3g and packet data features, and uses the home wireless

Roland Taylor

Bust luck, Apple.

tomshardware.com/news/…

2

lazyPower

Gnarly

that would be awesome if they sued apple

3

Roland Taylor

>:}

@lazyPower and won!

Journeyman Geek

that said, I ALSO have a bunch of old, non usable simcards ;p

(which work well enough to convince a phone there's a simcard inside ;p)

Roland Taylor

01:15

If I were the judge in the case I would award the max to them :)

Journeyman Geek

@RolandTaylor: I wonder what the effect of the case on the average person is

they've managed to piss off quite a lot of techies with this

lazyPower

I'm not so much worried about taking money from apple - but the fact that their patent wars have stifled so much innovation, when they as a company, were openly founded on stolen ideas.

aking1012

@JourneymanGeek that's what i did for my dad, but there's still a data plan requirement. seriously though, it's just not worth it at all.

lazyPower

Steve Jobs at one point said that apple has never tried to hide the fact that they steal great ideas. However - the patent wars they are inciting have told a different story

Exactly!

+1 aking for pulling that up

oh @aking1012 best thing happened to me tonight too. I thoroughly confused the crap out of the clerk at the wireless counter. As she was activiating my phone, she hands it over "please sign in to your google account, or create a new one" i reply "I have multifactor authentication on, i wont be able to do any of that until I get home. Just skip it"

she bricked on the spot, she didnt know you could skip signin on first boot - nor did she know what MFA was.

aking1012

heheh

lazyPower

01:24

+1 for being more informed than the geek squad

aking1012

geeksquad is a fail to begin with

lazyPower

trufax

aking1012

i was looking at putting one together that was a screenshot from margin call where the quote and subtitle would be "There are three ways to win in this business, be first, be smarter, or cheat" with accompanying screenshots of gates with the old tablet from a decade ago, linus and a google voice recognition ad, and something apple related.

2

lazyPower

Nice, if you do that, link it so i can star the EFF out of it

@GeorgeEdison wait, tux guitar is no longer maintained? that sucks. I really liked it for tabs.

aking1012

brief offtopic: I like a lot of the La Roux remixes that are cropping up now that the Skream remix is in the Judge Dredd 2012 trailer

Anwar

01:34

If i favorite a qn, i will be notified for all new answers?

aking1012

it shows up in as a number on favorites like it does if your rep changes

@lazyPower --^

lazyPower

sweet

aking1012

yep, supports webcam grabs too

Anwar

@aking1012 thanks.

aking1012

01:50

np

George Edison

@lazyPower Yeah, I thought it worked pretty good too... but sadly their forum is in total disrepair (gold watches rarely have anything to do with guitar tabs :P).

I'm giving Rosegarden a try.

...but I haven't got audio working yet.

(And it was nearly 500MB of packages to install... although some of those might have been upgrades - I didn't look very closely.)

Roland Taylor

back

@aking1012 Are those last 4 options possible to choose simultaneously?

If not, you should use radio buttons or something

Or maybe if possible all other options should go grey when one is chosen.

However, if yes, wow.

Prasad

hello all....question paper is back :-)

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison you play the guitar?

Prasad

@Anwar hello...what is the tweak?

/mute

aking1012

02:04

@RolandTaylor yes they can all be activated at once. currently they're locked in the off position until i get all the presets perfect

George Edison

@RolandTaylor A little bit.

jrg

@aking1012 that looks slick. :)

oooohhh... emacs-snapshot update.

this could be useful. somehow

aking1012

@jrg ty, i just fixed the toolbar theme.

jokerdino

Hey, is Jorge around?

jrg

@aking1012 cool

jokerdino

02:12

@JorgeCastro Yeah, i am thinking of making a canonical question and closing the rest as dupes.

aking1012

so i was thinking about adding animated gif support too...just for giggles ;)

jokerdino

hey everyone, if you can find similar dupes of this, close vote please.

aking1012

@jokerdino that one already has three close votes...maybe a mod should wipe that clean...if you're trying to make it the canonical one

Roland Taylor

Hi

jokerdino

well, that's one other thing :?

or how about we clean up something else in the time being?

jrg

02:18

fixed the canonical dupe

jokerdino

clean "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"

aking1012

@jokerdino i just cleared my review tab, so if you get any in there i'll see them

jokerdino

alright

hm okay, it looks pretty messy.

we need a software-center dev

askubuntu.com/…

jrg

@EliahKagan just flag the comment, not the post.

means you can have more flags available for the evil posts

Eliah Kagan

@jrg K. Will do.

@jrg Oh, were you referring to askubuntu.com/questions/185117/software-center-not-opening? I was unable to flag that comment because I had previous upticked it. When that happens I usually explicitly say that's why I'm flagging the post instead of the comment. I'd forgotten to say that in my flag reason. Sorry about that.

jrg

02:27

ah, ok. fair enough. :)

jokerdino

GDM looks nice. :)

Why do you want to flag my comment? >.>

jrg

because it's now an answer with +4. ;P

Eliah Kagan

@jrg There are some other situations where I've flagged the post saying that, for example, 1 of 2 extremely similar comments be removed...I suppose I could just flag whichever one I think would be better to remove, instead of flagging the post. (That's what I'd initially thought you'd meant in your message.)

jrg

and half answers as comments such.

@EliahKagan well, that's what I was actually referring to originally. :)

jokerdino

@jrg Right. At least the answer has my name on it ;)

Eliah Kagan

02:29

@jrg Ah, OK. Then I did understand. I shall take that to heart, and avoid flagging posts when flagging their comments would be an appropriate alternative.

George Edison

Dear Unity,

I am a long-time faithful Unity user who appreciates the ability to work efficiently in a desktop environment. This means that when I minimize an application, I expect to be able to restore it afterwards and resume my work. The little tiny white arrow next to the app's icon ought *not* to disappear.

Sincerely,
George Edison

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jokerdino

File a bug report. closes as off topic.

jrg

@EliahKagan thanks - just keeps users records cleaner, i'm nitpicking but every time someone does it, it adds up. So if you do it, and jokerdino does it, and jorge does it, and... well, you get the picture. :)

jokerdino

:)

George Edison

I'm going to give Gnome a try for a while.

jokerdino

02:32

Aww, I am on it and hate it already.

Firefox loses focus because of the thumbnailer extension.

George Edison

Hey, this is nice!

I could live with this.

jokerdino

Good luck :)

@jrg if I seem to find other solutions regarding software-center, do i edit the answer or add a C-W answer?

George Edison

The only other DE I have is KDE.

jokerdino

KDE is too similar to Windows :P

jrg

@jokerdino maybe?

idk, use your judgement

jokerdino

02:37

OK. I'll add a new answer.

askubuntu.com/questions/175884/… merge please.

Roland Taylor

Hi @EliahKagan I hope that in the cloudiness of my angst the other day (was having a bad week + wasn't too pleased at a series of events including the accusation of attacking you)... that things are somewhat clear now

I also hope you have not been put off contributing to the site.

lazyPower

@GeorgeEdison why not use unity?

George Edison

20 mins ago, by George Edison

Dear Unity,

I am a long-time faithful Unity user who appreciates the ability to work efficiently in a desktop environment. This means that when I minimize an application, I expect to be able to restore it afterwards and resume my work. The little tiny white arrow next to the app's icon ought *not* to disappear.

Sincerely,
George Edison

lazyPower

Ooooohhhh

missed it

George Edison

I'm having a bad time with Unity.

lazyPower

02:50

are you on 12.10?

George Edison

Nope, 12.04.

lazyPower

i dont experience that on 12.04, wonder whats up

George Edison

Could be an unusual configuration... it's hard to say.

It crashes Compiz about once per day and it does a few other odd "quirks".

(Namely causing icons to disappear from the panel, etc...)

jokerdino

Which window disappears?

Is it gnome-terminal or what?

lazyPower

I've managed to crash compiz on a fairly regular basis, but i'm not entirely convinced its not the hardware i'm running at work

because I dont have the issue on my rig at home

George Edison

02:55

@jokerdino So far it's been: XChat, gnome-terminal, Komodo Edit, Tux Guitar... there may be more.

lazyPower

people still IRC?

jokerdino

Ah, most of them have bugs reports..

George Edison

@lazyPower Yeah, it could be the hardware. Although I've never had this kind of trouble on previous Ubuntu releases.

jokerdino

XChat, gnome-terminal, etc.

Eliah Kagan

@RolandTaylor I did take a break, though partly because I had other matters to attend to. I was put off by the implication in what you wrote that people only respect me or upvote my posts because they are overly long and use words most people don't use. But it occurs to me that you may have meant that part in jest -- that your suggestion that I should sometimes write shorter was serious, but the suggestion that I was writing long to fool people into thinking my writing was good was not serious.

George Edison

02:56

Well whatever it is... it doesn't work :P

Eliah Kagan

I suppose the large number of stars on your message was also disconcerting to me. :-)

jokerdino

No launcher icon or Alt+Tab entry for xchat/xchat-gnome windows

Binary package hint: unity Running Xchat (see scrennshot) Unity fails to show that the application is running. If I minimize Xchat, Unity still won't be showing that the app is running. If I click on the Xchat icon again it will start a new instance while the old one is still running. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: unity 3.8.8-0ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686 NonfreeKernelModules: wl Architecture: i386 CompizPlugins: [core,bailer,detection,composite,opengl,decor,mousepoll,vpswitch,regex,animation,snap,expo,move,compiztoolbox,place,grid,imgpng,gnomecompat,wall,ezoom,workarounds,staticswitcher,resize,fade,unitymtgrabhandles,scale,session,unityshell] Date: Fri Apr 15 17:05:47 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Beta i386 (20110407) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_CA:en LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: unity UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh ins…

unity (Ubuntu)

Medium / Triaged

Roland Taylor

@EliahKagan I never suggested that you wrote such long posts for that reason and I'm still confused as to where that idea came from...

Unless you are referring to an only slightly related joke I made to Amithkk long before the statements in question, I'm completely lost.

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor New room please.

Roland Taylor

So yes, your assessment is correct. The only part I don't understand is where the concept that I think people only respect you for eloquence and long posts came from.

@jokerdino I don't think we'll be going on much longer.

jokerdino

02:59

@GeorgeEdison bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/951929

Eliah Kagan

@RolandTaylor It was from the conversation that immediately preceded your post. If I'm remembering rightly, AmithKK had talked about wishing he had more rep, and and your and jokerdino's statements seems to be saying that I have the amount of rep I do because I write stuff that's so long it looks smart even if it's not. But I now realize that you did not intend this at all. I had perhaps misunderstood, or misread.

lazyPower

@EliahKagan your long chat messages disturb me.

George Edison

All I can do is mark that it affects me too.

Roland Taylor

@EliahKagan Ah okay.

jokerdino

@lazyPower :P

Roland Taylor

03:00

Yeah it was a misunderstanding.

jokerdino

@lazy it takes some time getting used to.

The Interrupter

Is there a public beta for Steam for Linux? http://askubuntu.com/q/185309?atw=1 #steam

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on September 8, 2012 at 3:01 AM

lazyPower

yeah, i actually have to read and process the information. Twitter ruined me.

jokerdino

But then again, your username has a lazy. >.>

lazyPower

^-- THAT

Eliah Kagan

03:02

@RolandTaylor Anyways, if @jokerdino's OK with it and we end up wanting to discuss what happened more, we could probably use this room ... but I think you and I (and jokerdino) are good now. I bear no hard feelings ...and for my part, I hope whatever offense I've given is not too great. And I haven't been discouraged from using the site.

Roland Taylor

@EliahKagan I don't hold grudges easily, so it's all good.

jokerdino

Hm, get back to cleaning up the site :P

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino you mean taking over the world?

jokerdino

No, cleaning up :P

OK, marked all the non-closed questions as dupe.

Roland Taylor

03:21

Argh I hate when compiz just freezes everything

It happens without warning

things still run in the background, but the IO usage goes sky high while the screen refuses to update

msPeachy

03:52

@aking1012 o/

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy hey

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor hi :)

Roland Taylor

\o/ /o/ /o/ _o|

crowd dances

msPeachy

lol, chicken dance?

Roland Taylor

yeah lol :D

dance with us!

 ~o_
 /
/\

break dancing

msPeachy

04:02

it moves

Roland Taylor

:D

o_|
/  \

msPeachy

you've been quite the star here lately

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy in a bad way sadly

or at least I think so

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor misunderstandings

it happens

Alec

Back.

@RolandTaylor I found a some-what solution to get dual monitors working.

Roland Taylor

04:07

@msPeachy true :S

@Alec oh?

Do tell

Alec

@RolandTaylor Idk if it'll work for you, I have a Nvidia GTS450; but if you type in Nvidia in your search thing you will see Nvidia X Server Config or something like that.

You have to activate the second monitor from there.

Ubuntu won't see it though, but you can configure it via that.

Only thing is that you can't change the launch bar's appearance on monitors.

So you're stuck with two of them.

Roland Taylor

Oh I tried that one

it didn't work completely though

Alec

Oh.

Roland Taylor

I have my laptop screen disabled right now, but ideally I'd like to have both - and at the same resolution, like I did before I upgraded the driver.

See the problem is that the CRT monitor is being reported incorrectly :/

Alec

Oh, sorry can't help you there. I'm dealing with a desktop graphics card, probably rather different.

Roland Taylor

04:10

LightDM is the worst part, because it starts up in a terribly small resolution and I can't change my session on login

If my laptop screen wasn't broken, I'd have no problems

Alec

Oh haha.

It's probably not too bad cost-wise to replace it.

Max of $60 I'm guessing.

Roland Taylor

US that is

for me it's not that simple

Alec

Oh.

Roland Taylor

the cheapest I found online were 100+ US, which is 200+ BDS dollars :/

Alec

Oh my.

jokerdino

04:15

back

Roland Taylor

Don't worry, I'm working on getting the money I need to replace the laptop :)

Amith KK

Good Morning

jokerdino

Hi

Amith KK

Hello all

Hello @jokerdino

Alec

@AmithKK Good night (11:16PM here) || Hopefully it'll be back up running soon, I know what it feels to not be able to take your laptop and expect something portable.

jokerdino

04:17

hey

Alec

Also sorry guys if I make typos or act weird, as if that's anything out of the ordinary; I got some medication for my infection. The pain killers are making me feel a bit loopy.

jokerdino

I'd would be scared if you act normally.

msPeachy

how does one act weird on AU chat?

2

o/ @AmithKK and @jokerdino

jokerdino

@msPeachy o/

@msPeachy You ask that question and tag me and @AmithKK in the next line? Outrageous.

Alec

Hm.

Let me browse my pictures folder.

msPeachy

04:21

@jokerdino lol

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy winning statement of the night

Alec

Oh, lets break out some of my shoops.

msPeachy

it doesn't mean anything, was just responding to what I read

Alec

jokerdino

Those drugs are making you loopy. Someone lock him up.

msPeachy

04:23

@RolandTaylor :) just wanted to say something clever/funny

Alec

Oh here's a shoop I did of one of my friends's eyes.

It's not too difficult to act weird on AU chat <3

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy you sure did

Alec

@RolandTaylor Is that you?

Amith KK

OMGPORTARAEARINGS

Roland Taylor

@Alec yeah

I did that about two/three years ago while studying :)

Alec

04:28

jokerdino

Cheezburger lol

Roland Taylor

Alec

I am entirely curious on how much money they are able to pull from ads due to people uploading pictures of their pet-

Oh my.

msPeachy

if a LQ post is edited via Review beta, will it be removed from the LQP queue?

jokerdino

Abort.

Roland Taylor

04:29

^The above was me while thinking in my home on Mars.

jokerdino

@msPeachy I guess. I think it needs two individual reviews.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy yesh

msPeachy

okay

if it has been recommended for deletion, how many recommend votes does it need to be removed?

jokerdino

One mod delete vote

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor how did you do this?

jokerdino

04:31

Recommend delete push it on top of mod review queue and top of those who can actually delete (read as 20k+ rep)

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy I took a picture of myself thinking...?

My eyes are normally blue.

msPeachy

@jokerdino i see, will the recommend deletion votes added to your flag count?

Roland Taylor

Alec

Forgot to dump my last 2.

Roland Taylor

My blue glow was coming through my teeth cause I was excited about something (I don't remember what)

jokerdino

04:33

@msPeachy I don't think so. It is just a button.

msPeachy

@jokerdino okay, thank you

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy ^mental block

jokerdino

What is this? Haunted house?

Roland Taylor

xD

@jokerdino you can't handle the truth?

I've said I'm an alien for over a year and no one believed me.

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor lol, i meant how did you get the blue/green eyes

Roland Taylor

04:35

@msPeachy I just... have them :P

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor lol

Roland Taylor

:D

Lol on a serious note, I use a program called Tintii and the GIMP

jokerdino

Riiiight.

Anwar

morning

Alec

Does IE support svg images?

Roland Taylor

04:36

I was in politics class.... that explains everything.

@Alec no

IE9 might but I don't remember off hand

msPeachy

lunch time, bbl

Anwar

bye

jokerdino

@msPeachy bye

@Anwar hi

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy later mighty Peachy

Anwar

@jokerdino hi

Roland Taylor

04:39

brb restarting FF

Anwar

@RolandTaylor o/

jokerdino

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Q: Requires installation of untrusted packages?

I tried installing VLC Player yesterday, and I got the Requires installation of untrusted packages error. I searched for hours for a solution to this problem, and finally came upon a suggestion that said to change servers for downloading updates from. I did this, and it gave me a 404 error when...

Dupe?

Anwar

@Prasad sorry, i was away for a while. i'm giving you the .desktop file.

Roland Taylor

back

Yeah it's a dupe

In fact there are technically two dupes :D

6

Q: Updates don't install because of "untrusted packages"

I have "darktable + extras" installed (I added their ppa repository to the sources manually). The extras include a tool called exiv2. Now I get an update, full of important packages. At the end of the list, there is exiv2. When I click "install updates", I get When I click Close, nothing ha...

packages update-manager software-sources

^Original.

6

Q: Update Error : Require Installation Of Untrusted Packages

I have Googled && Found Out Updates don't install because of "untrusted packages" its not about fixing the Error , how do i fix My Gui Update ? UPdated sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade < working The following packages will be upgraded: ambia...

updates

Another dupe of the original

jokerdino

Cool Thanks.

Alec

04:43

helloracer.com/webgl

I feel suddenly motivated to learn HTML5.

jokerdino

possible duplicate of Update Error : Require Installation Of Untrusted Packages — jokerdino 14 secs ago

Anwar

done

Roland Taylor

Another remake is nearing completion ^_^

Alec

Is that done in Blender, Maya, or 3ds max?

Anwar

@Prasad, First Create a script in `~/.config/autostart` naming cairo.sh.
the cairo.sh will contain

if [ "$DESKTOP_SESSION" = "gnome-classic" ]; then
cairo-dock
fi
Then create a startup application which starts cairo.sh. then again go to `~/.config/autostart` dir and make the newly created `.desktop` file executable. It's working here.

@Prasad content of ~/.config/autostart/cairo.sh and content of the .desktop file

Alec

04:57

Alriught I'm going to try to go to sleep, cya

Anwar

I wanted to try to include the exec line in .desktop file, but i don't know how to do that.

jokerdino

@Alec good night

Anwar

@Alec cya

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