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05:00
can't stay long, need to go. bye
@msPeachy cya later!
O_o
@msPeachy bye
Time to upgrade my kernel >:P
05:15
Thanks
Answered. Night all.
Good night.
05:31
@GeorgeEdison good night :)
@jokerdino I am saying, it is partman program included in ubiquity, not parted. I thought, you said parted
Good morning all
wait, i am saying it is parted.
i probably misread
I also surprised to know, it is not parted but partman instead!
05:48
there is no partman in repo
but there is in debian
Yes, partman is included in ubiquity package
weird surprise
yes, indeed !!
btw, I am now in first 2 page of AU all time users
wow awesome!
thanks.
05:50
that's a splendid achievement
really?
yes it is
i remember jumping in joy when i hit the first two page
thanks again. and thanks to all upvoters
So, this means, I am going to have a SE T-shirt, right?
not really.
if you lose your position when they offer, you won't get the shirt
Oh. when will they offer?
05:53
anytime soon
hmm..
@jokerdino No I didn't. I was sleeping.
@njallam Apparently, it was hakermania.
@jokerdino I was thinking it to myself though. I thought he was a mind-reader.
@njallam He isn't. He just read the notifications.
06:01
Gnome-control-center segfaults at online-accounts now :D
woo hoo
it does?
i love ubuntu :D
e_e that was a weird chat flag
i missed it :(
@RolandTaylor What was?
it was valid
in Mathematics, 22 hours ago, by Matt
@J.M. I don't know what I'd do. I've not had the chance. Although I have quite a long list of people whose funeral I'd like to attend...
And then he goes on and on
06:12
Anyone have UCK here? Ubuntu customization kit
@jokerdino Thanks
@njallam I hope you can handle it?
@jokerdino :)
06:16
"various password recovery features" is not IMO specific. I think, you need to be more specific about methods, otherwise it would not a good fit for this kind of site. — Anwar 56 secs ago
Let's say someone commented under an answer as "not being an answer". What should I do? comment again or what?
if it is the same comment, i would rather not.
No, I am asking if you do not agree with being "NA"
Ah, then yes, comment.
whew last update for the night before I restart and sleep
good night
06:25
Feels like a bad answer, any comments?
0
A: When running Minecraft with OpenJDK, my keyboard becomes unresponsive?

njallamOn the download page, Mojang state: please use Sun's JVM. You can find instructions on how to do this here. You don't need to bother with any section other than "Choosing your JRE" unless you want to. Mojang didn't design Minecraft to run on OpenJDK, they instead designed it to run on Sun...

Bounty offered: Kickoff and Krunner to search with less than 3 chars in search field? http://askubuntu.com/q/177847?atw=1 #kubuntu
@Anwar of?
I wasn't sure, so asking. and an answer is already given similar to my thinking
Well I don't know
06:41
I think this is not an answer askubuntu.com/a/169130/61218
@Anwar nope
he is double posting
the second one also?
err i mean, he added two answers instead of editng one
So many NaAs!
06:56
Please don't create new tags.
kickoff and krunner wasn't exactly necessary
OK
I thought we had tags for each package.
but krunner already exists
@njallam not necessary.
it depends on how many questions we would get for each package
and I think, krunner is not a single package
krunner is like HUD
Well Krunner existed already
06:58
it is in kde-workspace-bin AFAIK
I made Kickoff
hud comes in indicator-appmenu
1 min ago, by jokerdino
but krunner already exists
@jokerdino I put the tag in the question, not create it. I created not
06:59
@njallam yeah, never mind
I haven't created any tag yet. ;)
i figured krunner existed.
but not kickoff
I support his reasoning though, I think, he thought, if krunner can exist, why not kickoff
Well they are different programs, I checked that.
let's fight
yes. I was saying that implicitly @njallam
i am generally against the idea of creating new tags.
without very good reason
@jokerdino well it's only one question, it should be easy to remove.
you need reasons? one sec
07:02
no, I was adding to your comment
tell me how many of them are great tags
i am generally against the idea of creating new tags without very good reason
^^ this is my view
@Anwar oh ok makes sense
yeah, new tags that don't need to exist shouldn't exist
&& How do I merge tags?
burn all the tags...
07:04
@njallam retag
creating tag synonym or request in meta?
just 3 questions. can be retagged
@Anwar I need more rep for that
I was going to leave it to you guys.
what kind of a joke is this? askubuntu.com/posts/180016/revisions
shouldn't we now burn and ?
07:05
0
Q: Should the tag wi-fi be a synonym of wifi?

aking1012I think so. This question is just a way to get a consensus/vote on the thing. I see no difference in the two tags and wifi seems more standard.

it will probably be mod-merged tomorrow
shrug
I should say, wi-fi to be the master though
I now officially hate nvidia
I should have been sleeping half an hour ago
there is an unwritten rule to retag for less than 20 questions
2
and I have a big problem...
07:07
Good to know. thanks @jokerdino
@jokerdino can't say i disagree. i didn't check to see how many it was.
well, nothing is lost.
I retagged the questions.
you know, i hate those who write tag wikis for such tags.
do retags count as edits towards this?
07:09
not really
@njallam check your answer on meta
@aking1012 nice, well done
btw, wifi is duped to wireless
wifi -> wireless
wi-fi -> wireless
07:13
Hey guys
desperate request here
just got rid of a couple of tags
@RolandTaylor heya
what's going on?
hello
I need some help figuring out if I can get my monitor resolution back to normal
go to display if you are on unity?
if your card is messed up, i can't help
I used to be able to set it to 1440x900 on both the (broken) laptop screen and on the external monitor, but since upgrading the nvidia driver, it won't offer this option :(
07:15
does xrandr give you the right possibilities making it a monitor probing problem? or xrandr doesn't give you the possibilities making it an nvidia problem?
well I don't know where to look for that
in a console - xrandr
what's worse, changing the resolution has made the mouse unable to work on this screen
oh wait, fixed now (the mouse problem)
:( - too complicated for no sleep in about 24 hours...sorry
@aking1012 it doens't give me the option with xrandr
maybe
but how would I fix that?
07:17
had that backwards
I never had this issue before :(
nvidia problem...EDID xrandr gives you the option, but the driver won't let you set it.
I see
It might be that indeed
you could try setting it with a static xorg.conf, but it can cause you to be unable to boot in to anything but text only if it borks.
not something i'm prepared to walk through sleep deprived.
I'm going to work on this tomorrow, and report a bug too
I will have to use lots of self control though cause stuff like this pisses me off
07:19
So is the laptop screen resolution fine?
Need a better question than this one as a dupe target for this question
good. if it reports the wrong monitor then that's probably it and a static xorg might fix it
A simple thing that worked all along... till what should have been a smooth update
@njallam yeah
the CRT is the big problem :(
@Anwar how about a generic how do i reinstall grub question
Well I have no idea
07:20
reinstall grub after loosing it is ok, imo
or we can simply consider repairing good, since both are same process (windows updating mbr and thus removing grub entry)
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Q: How can I repair grub? (How to get Ubuntu back after installing Windows?)

SalahuddinI installed Windows 7, which ate Ubuntu's boot file. When starting up the computer, it now goes straight to Windows, without giving me the option of booting Ubuntu. How can I get Ubuntu back?

this one has 8k views
Roland, I am looking at you now :P
@aking1012 thanks. I should be the master
@jokerdino for?
I'm going to bed
07:23
@RolandTaylor Good night. For approving tag wiki on stutter
@jokerdino oh lol
I must have been rushing that time and not doing a thorough read up
Eliah approved one on reslov.conf
Although I don't remember approving that - but oh well
No one is perfect! Yay
P.S. In the words of Linux Torvalds...
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU NVIDIA
07:25
@RolandTaylor Ah, show Nvidia the finger!
And with that, I bid you good what is left of my night :/
nights
he did not stutter
07:26
Is it considered bad not editing tag-wikis?
meta title: How can we prevent poor tags from getting into the system (and getting a tag wiki for themselves)?
i generally dont have a good opinion of people who plagiarise tag wikis / wait for new tags to be made and suggesting tag wikis on them / create tags so they can suggest tag wikis
^Forgot to add that - that's a lie - it worked on 1440x900 before.
maybe you got one they used overstock parts from another monitor in? like they guarantee that minimum, but they might have put better parts in yours to empty a lot or something
4
A: What makes a tag wiki "good"?

jokerdinoThanks for taking the time to ask this question. I always intended to write this meta post on how we can improve our tag wikis and I'll use this opportunity to do exactly that. In my opinion, a tag wiki should have a brief introduction about what the tag is about, unless it is too commonsensi...

Wow, commonsensical is actually a word...
07:30
nonsensical is too.
i hope you get my point
common-sensical should be hyphenated if the english language were logical. common-sense is hyphenated
@aking1012 However, it is not.
i think we're agreeing and my sarcasm was just lost to the text
he didn't get either of our points
That's why I always considered "editing tag-wikis" is really a hard job and requires researching, avoiding those
07:32
@Anwar i took considerable time typing out that answer :P it was pretty exhaustive and i would want it to be a guideline for most new tag wiki edits
@jokerdino shouldn't the first letter be Capital for each bulleted line
nope
it is a sentence
then removing period (.)?
it should, be right, flow from the sentence before the bulletin
or using commas instead?
07:34
@Anwar would you please type /NICK nitpicker
joke
@Anwar fixed
i guess that was appropriate use of semi colon
I think, it is a very good guideline. thanks @jokerdino
Thanks.
someone comment on the use of semicolon
I have a good idea. linking good questions in my profile
@jokerdino if you want to be technical, it's not. a semi-colon is supposed to be used sparingly to link two connected ideas that are full sentences...using five implies they should either be separate or the structure should be changed to be one long complex sentence
07:37
@aking1012 ^5!
BBL
@aking1012 ok removed
it's back to how it was before.
@Anwar later on. the nitpicker thing was a joke btw don't take it too seriously
@jokerdino it's fine...it's not like we're on english.se. technically it can also be used as a comma for separating a series which contains commas as well
so, it should be a comma huh?
bah, i think people should read the points rather than the punctuation
no. the period is fine. i was just pointing out another use of ; so i didn't get flamed later
07:41
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Q: Should the tag wi-fi be a synonym of wireless?

aking1012I think so. This question is just a way to get a consensus/vote on the thing. wifi is already duped to wireless and wi-fi is just another spelling of wifi.

@jokerdino i agree
Thanks :D
sometimes, people should not be overzealous
-1
A: Synonimization of singular/plural tag pairs

ObsessiveFOSS This was buried in comments, so I'll add this. If nobody objects, jrg♦ will perform these synonimizations. They look good to me, i'll tackle those tonight if nobody objects. – jrg♦ 4 hours ago

@jokerdino the very definition of zeal
perfect. now i know what zeal really means :D
btw, none of the tags are acted upon yet :P
i'm taking a cigarette and a nap. bbl.
07:47
bye
Is there an IRC channel for Python help?
yeah
#python
though so
So I could just say hey what does THIS.EXCEPTION mean and they will tell me?
try first
you need to register your nick and other yada first
08:06
It's freenode right?
I already have a nick, nja
@njallam yep
okay
Switching to Ubuntu...
09:02
Bounty offered: Webpages not loading in 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/q/149669?atw=1
Is there any way to transmit microphone audio to a VirtualBox VM?
09:32
0
A: WHy CAps lock is too slow to turn off in Ubuntu?

OliThis is quite easy to fix. I have successfully used this technique on two people with a 100% success rate: Put the blade of a knife or tip of a flathead screwdriver underneath the capslock key. Twist. The key should come flying off and you can dispose of it the best way you see fit. The recov...

@aking1012 No, I didn't take that seriously. You said it was a joke in the very next msg
It's a dupe.
I like the answer.
Me too!
he can type 99 words per second, and he don't want to change his bad habit.
o_O
he just doubled his answer
I read somewhere that, future keyboards will not have any Caps Lock key. so, a change is must
cite it
Found the dupe.
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Q: Why does turning Caps Lock off take such a long time to work?

SouljackerThis is my biggest issue with Linux and the main reason I don't use it as my main working OS. Whenever I use caps lock to write something in upper case and disable it in order to keep writing the next letter AFTER I've disabled it is written in upper case. So, my text comes out weird, as SOMETH...

09:41
Here is an article though not the original one techi.com/2010/12/google-chrome-computer-no-caps-lock
International CAPS LOCK Day ! June 28th and October 22nd.
Guys, I installed two php versions on Apache PHP5.2 and PHP5.3 based on this: zgadzaj.com/… and i used PHP5.2 for only my specific Vhost. and the problem i faced is i can't include php extensions for that specific Vhost. Like: Function "curl", PHP GD2, PHP imagick, Function "mysql_connect" i activated under php.ini but they are not working. Has anyone done this before?
@Achu so, your php5.2 problem get solved? Have you accepted an answer?
@Anwar Not yet i'm still working on it
@Achu I haven't done that. I think, SO chat is better for you
Ok i will try there
09:48
Need votes.
@Anwar if you are bored :)
search for "site:askubuntu.com malformed line" in google
Oh, that was a malformed line question?
@Anwar yeah. there are like so many of them not closed
hmm.. I think that is because each problem is somewhat different.
oh yeah?
10:00
We should have a question which deals with it more generally
@jokerdino That doesn't happen for me
It should have the standard repos+partner repos+ instruction to add PPAs, so that, we can just remove the malformed file and create a new one
That sources.list generator link can be great for these question
An answer like this, IMO. askubuntu.com/a/152373/61218
@AmithKK it happens occasionally
though it should be more detailed
But I agree, many of those questions are duplicate
10:17
Sometime those errors happen only for missing // after http: askubuntu.com/q/172770/61218
Well #python has to be the most unfriendly place on the internet.
10:32
@njallam It's not so for me :P
Well, most of the time
It might be of my cloak or something
Hi I'm back
@jokerdino That's specifically about installed 32-bit packages on a 64-bit system, though. What I'm hoping for is a general question that provides very broad-scale summaries of what must be done for each major subcase (32-bit packages on 64-bit, 32-bit binary-only software not in packages for 64-bit, and building software to be 32-bit on a 64-bit system for the situations where that is necessary such as when another 32-bit program needs a library that must be built from source).
@aking1012 I'm not asserting anything about any particular work's use of semicolons. But the use of semicolons to join related independent clauses (which is the application you've cited) is not the only valid use. There are others. One of them is as a list separator, when one or more individual elements of the list themselves contain commas.
10:48
BBL
Can we say this question constructive?
@Anwar No. It is based on your hardware I think
@Anwar Opinion may differ about this, and there are only a few people in chat who appear to be watching right now. So you may want to post on meta. But it seems to me that it is constructive. Even an explanation that it is based on hardware would be an answer. If you have an answer to the question, even a short one, you may want to post it.
OK. thanks to you @smartboyhw @EliahKagan
:)
It does take a long time to install a kernel
10:54
I've made a CW answer here
I think, it is hard to say the exact time because it also depends on the options he selected during compilation as well as the h/w
Something has gone wrong with the top user name in AU site
It does not showing now the lost rep in the question
I had 4770 before a downvote and now it is 4768. but the pop up is not showing the question where i lost those rep as before
@Anwar I trust that will be excluding download time?
@njallam yes of course (if i understand you correctly)
@Anwar OK

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