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Amith KK

14:00

Hello all

Eliah Kagan

@AmithKK Hi.

Amith KK

Hey @EliahKagan

jokerdino

heck, supper time already.

jrg

@AmithKK yo, get on irc

jokerdino

was mesmerized listening to all the chinese rap songs.

brb

jrg

14:01

@jokerdino ....

hakermania

gangam style!!!

jokerdino

@hakermania that's korean :p

hakermania

okkk :P

SirCharlo

Ehhhhh, sexy lay-deee

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Q: We need a central list of canonical answers or best answers for oft-seen question

Possible Duplicate: What are common canonical questions for our site? When a user posts a question about, for instance, Ubuntu freezing, it would be useful to have a page that list the most common questions, and the answers that should be linked to. So under "Freezing", there would be...

SirCharlo

14:03

great

Amith KK

@jrg I'm there

SirCharlo

now everyone can see that i dont search before posting rolleyes

Jorge Castro

it's ok, the search sucks anyway

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dupes just help the wording on the search, so bonus!

jrg

Amen to that one

Roland Taylor

Heya

aking1012

14:07

@SirCharlo i wrote a script for that. see the link in the comment

rlemon

Any Chinese speaking people in here? I need a translation

aking1012

people look at me like i'm speaking chinese all the time... but no

SirCharlo

@aking1012 welcome to the club

Jorge Castro

hey speaking of canonical questions

@SirCharlo like how to install java!

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Q: How do I install Java?

How do I install Java and also in my browser so websites with Java work?

java browser openjdk

SirCharlo

sigh

Jorge Castro

14:12

@SirCharlo do you have close votes? I am out.

Amith KK

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hakermania

@jokerdino do you use the Wallch Albums?

Amith KK

@JorgeCastro I do

SirCharlo

done

rlemon

I would use google translate but it is an image :<

SirCharlo

14:14

ive got a chinese coworker..

hakermania

@rlemon there is software that extracts text from image

jrg

@AmithKK HOW DID YOU FIND THAT?!

Roland Taylor

@hakermania but Chinese text?

hakermania

@RolandTaylor why not?

Roland Taylor

@hakermania ocr has to be specific to the characters being used

For example, there is hocr - for Hebrew

hakermania

14:17

@RolandTaylor there should also be something for chinese. 1/7 of the world speaks chinese

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Q: Allowing write access to an SMB mounted drive

Following this guide I was able to get my Samba share to mount on my Ubuntu 12.04 system. I can navigate the folders just fine. However I cannot create a directory nor create a file. I get the following error: mkdir: cannot create directory `ServerBackups': Permission denied Looking at the ...

ubuntu samba

Roland Taylor

@hakermania that's why I'm asking you if the software you are referring to does Chinese text

hakermania

@RolandTaylor I'm not referring to something specific. i just know that there is software out there that can extract text from image

SirCharlo

theres whatthefont

but that not really what youre looking for

jokerdino

@hakermania what exactly is that?

@SirCharlo eeeh :P

SirCharlo

14:20

@jokerdino :)

hakermania

@jokerdino I'm not referring to something specific google.com/…

jokerdino

@hakermania the wallch album thingie?

Roland Taylor

So, you just refer people to non-specific things :P?

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor don't ever question the greek logic. Never ever ever.

that was a joke. no offense

hakermania

@jokerdino oh, sorry, I was buffed :/ Look under 'File' menu at wallch. It saves your pictures as a file. And, once saved, you can repoen it with wallch and the corresponding images will show up

jokerdino

14:22

oh

i never knew such a thing

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino lol

Marco Ceppi

GIVE US THE UPBOATS

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi it wasn't me, trust me! I'm innocent!

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi omg reddit <3

hakermania

@jokerdino anyway, I would like to ask you if you want this feature removed?

jokerdino

14:25

@hakermania ok explain what this feature does. i never used it and can possibly live without it

@MarcoCeppi (i wanted some karma on reddit :'( )

Roland Taylor

@hakermania you made wallch?

hakermania

@RolandTaylor the biggest part of it

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor he co-develops

Roland Taylor

Cool

jokerdino

@hakermania no, you co-delevop.

Roland Taylor

14:26

Who is the other developer?

jokerdino

me?

Roland Taylor

oh okay

I didn't know you guys had made it

hakermania

what the actual ... duck?

Roland Taylor

or did you guys take it over?

hakermania

@RolandTaylor jokerdino lies :P

jokerdino

14:27

@RolandTaylor Leon Vitanos actually :P

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino I knew something didn't feel right :D

jokerdino

@hakermania dino*

@RolandTaylor well, was waiting for haker's response

hakermania

@RolandTaylor Of course something did feel right, 1 min before he said that he didn't know what a wallch album is

Roland Taylor

btw MightyPeachy went to sleep?

jokerdino

@hakermania oh fail me. now explain what it does

Roland Taylor

14:28

@hakermania I was thinking maybe he had just joined or something but it still didn't feel right lol

jokerdino

well, haker did the formatjunkie too

been ~~stalking~~ following him since a long time

Roland Taylor

I don't know Formatjunkie

hakermania

@jokerdino when you save your list as a wallch album, you can recover it with loading that file. For example, you can have the files summer.wallch, happy.wallch, sad.wallch, winter.wallch, anniversary.wallch and each of them to have different pictures 'in them'. once loaded with wallch those pictures come up

@RolandTaylor Format Junkie is (still) a small and quite simple program for converting audio, video & images (A wannabe windows Format Factory alternative)

jokerdino

@hakermania hm but i can't select a list. i can only select a single image etc

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi hey

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AWWWW YEAH ....

Marco Ceppi

14:31

haha, epic

Roland Taylor

@hakermania oh now I remember

jokerdino

i can't shout show off. Because he deserves it :/

Roland Taylor

I had seen it on a list of apps for the app show down

hakermania

@jokerdino load your pictures in wallch and under 'File' menu you can save them as wallch album. It is simple.

@RolandTaylor yeah, we participated at the showdown with this app, didn't win anything, though (picsaw hater here :D)

waiting for the community vote results...

jokerdino

@hakermania no soliciting here. :P

@hakermania simple?

i cleared my album, went to file and added a folder. then what?

hakermania

14:33

@jokerdino go to File and choose to save as wallch album

Roland Taylor

@hakermania trust me, I'm not a fan of how the show down went down either

jokerdino

ok done.

Roland Taylor

I think the winners were ridiculous choices

An RSS reader that non-Google-reader users can't use? Seriously?!

jokerdino

@hakermania i then clear it and select another folder and create a new album?

hakermania

@jokerdino now you can choose a different list and save it as a wallch album. You can load these albums anytime

@jokerdino yeah that's all

jokerdino

14:34

@RolandTaylor who doesn't use google?

hakermania

@RolandTaylor I know... I was crying rivers (LOL)

jokerdino

@hakermania cry me a river.. later.

aking1012

@jokerdino i think he meant that RSS feeds that are non-google become useless for

jokerdino

@hakermania i keep clearing and creating a new album?

hakermania

@jokerdino create as albums as you wish :P

jokerdino

14:35

@hakermania well, i see the feature.

but it is too clumsy

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino I don't use google-reader

jokerdino

yes and similarly other apps have limitations on their own

like i dont use xkcd, i don't have a network of computers, i dont want to convert music etc

hakermania

@jokerdino what can be done to improve the feature?

Roland Taylor

yeah but that's not just a regular limitation...

You make an application to read RSS feeds, but only certain users can?

That's not useful.

jokerdino

@hakermania maybe i should be able to select the images instead of having to clear the whole thing

@RolandTaylor yeah but it is a subjective decision.

Roland Taylor

14:37

It's not like if you make an xkcd reader - because that can't limit anyone.

You either read it or you don't.

jokerdino

while IMO the rss reader loses on the scratch the itch factor, i don't think it was a terribly useless software

Roland Taylor

But - anyone can read RSS feeds - just not everyone is going to rely on Google Reader for it.

I don't think it was terribly useful either...

You could just read in a web browser.

jokerdino

it was useful for those who wanted it.

or at least the judges

i am neither against or for the winners.

Roland Taylor

I'm not really against, I'm just disappointed.

jokerdino

i liked some of the apps like formatjunkie, myagenda and was glad there was a showdown

hakermania

14:40

I was glad too, but come on, did lightread scratched an itch? Innovation?

Roland Taylor

neither.

Where is that fairisfair blog post...

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor ok tmrw this time duel to settle the matter :P

hakermania

It was a total copy of reederapp.com/mac/screens

jokerdino

@hakermania i said it loses on that matter.

we already had/have an rss reader

@hakermania right. i don't belong to mac

Jorge Castro

I think lightread is awesome

Roland Taylor

14:41

@jokerdino I have weapons you've never dreamed of

jokerdino

Jorge's vote is just too damn high

Roland Taylor

lol

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor only nighthawker

Roland Taylor

I'm not saying it's a bad application - because it's not,

jokerdino

well, i think the majority of the judges use google reader and liked the app and they chose it?

Roland Taylor

14:41

I'm just saying that in all fairness, it really did not deserve a top spot in the showdown.

hakermania

@JorgeCastro it is not a bad application, it simply does not fulfill the criteria

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino biased.

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor which competition doesn't?

Roland Taylor

justicetoeveryone.blogspot.gr/2012/08/…

jokerdino

you would vote for something you like.

aking1012

14:42

@hakermania that could be why it won. copying mac apps for ubuntu seems a good way to get ubuntu fanatics backing you no?!?

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino that's why competitions come with multiple judges.

hakermania

@jokerdino the criteria were specific, though: developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/rules

Roland Taylor

@aking1012 you forgot /snark

or /troll

Jorge Castro

I think that the UI looks awesome is innovative, at least for ubuntu apps anyway. :-/

aking1012

@RolandTaylor i was serious

Roland Taylor

14:43

@aking1012 lol :P

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor well so?

@hakermania actually i was more against the picsaw than the lightread

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino so that you avoid strong bias

hakermania

@jokerdino me too

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino don't get me started on that

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor you still have bias.

ok what won the other price?

ah fogger.

that was a nice app.

useful for many people.

Roland Taylor

14:44

I could go with that

The other 2, no

jokerdino

unless you are on a server, etc

Roland Taylor

That's why the showdown was for the Desktop :P

jokerdino

@hakermania btw, if you guys are removing the album feature, i would be fine.

@RolandTaylor yep :P

Roland Taylor

In any case, that fair things blog hits the nail on the head to me.

izx

@jokerdino: someone from your school?

have 100 Systems in the local network with Net connection to all of them. My issue i want to know which system accessing the Internet because they supposed to LAB work not use Internet . I can remove the Internet connection

:P

Roland Taylor

14:45

Example @jokerdino:

hakermania

@jokerdino aren't you against of removing features? What about a user that uses this? He will be left without it

jokerdino

@izx holy

Roland Taylor

First of all, the administrator of OMG!Ubuntu, which is a very nice site in general (no irony here, I am a fan), was one of the judges of this contest. From the very first week he promoted specific applications from the contest. The truth is, that, while he posted about many applications, he clearly focused on 2 specific ones: LightRead and Fogger, which are pretty good applications, if you want my opinion. The first unacceptable thing here, is a judge to publicly express his opinion at the very first week of the contest. This results to the following things: a) Affect the opinion of the ot…

aking1012

@RolandTaylor new idea. let's put together a group of programmers to clone everything in the mac app store for ubuntu...but you have to use a cross-platform kit so it works on iOS, android, and windows too ;)

Roland Taylor

@aking1012 >:}

We will need to use Objective-Python

jokerdino

14:46

@hakermania well, where is your co-developer? you guys need to improve the feature. it isn't likable to me.

Roland Taylor

:P (it doesn't exist but it will so we are more Mac friendly)

hakermania

@jokerdino suggest things

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino you are one user o_o

hakermania

@jokerdino we are currently fighting for it. I say that it has to stay and he says that it has to be gone

aking1012

@RolandTaylor kivy packages for iOS

jokerdino

14:47

@hakermania i don't want to save the entire list. i want to pick and choose

@RolandTaylor i like kitties

hakermania

@RolandTaylor +1 where did you get this from?

aking1012

@jokerdino you shouldn't say that to a man that eats kittens... joke

jokerdino

@aking1012 i also like chicken because they are tasty

Roland Taylor

@hakermania my head

jokerdino

@hakermania from the link earlier posted

Roland Taylor

14:48

@aking1012 why joke? :D

You don't eat kittens?

hakermania

aha

aking1012

@RolandTaylor just didn't want it to be taken the wrong way...

Roland Taylor

@aking1012 lol

I understand

I get oversat a lot myself

hakermania

Format junkie 19/25, cool :)

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor valid points. we probably won't be talking this much if nitroshare was there.

izx

14:49

Whoa @haker is that your blog/review?

jokerdino

ok time for #d-a-t meeting :S

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino partly because of our own bias :D - but, bias aside, Nitroshare should have been there

hakermania

@izx which?

jokerdino

@izx no.

hakermania

@izx the earlier? no

jokerdino

14:50

@izx bindo bango != haker

aking1012

@jokerdino agreed. i think the C++ thing had a bit to do with it, and the fact that it is SO cross platform. which is even more awesome, but not as "ubu targeted"

Roland Taylor

@izx hi

izx

Ah. I agree with the omgubuntu judge point though, if he was spouting off while still in progress

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor yeah i would have replaced the game with it :P

izx

Hi @Roland

Roland Taylor

14:51

@izx sadly, yes

hakermania

@izx yes

aking1012

@izx to be fair, fogger is pretty nice and should prove useful in the future.

Amith KK

BBL

jokerdino

@aking1012 he probably never faced the problem of transferring files across the network.

hakermania

@izx even now with the community vote, I didn't like the 20 best apps post

jokerdino

14:51

@AmithKK thanks for the useful thought. :P

ok meeting.

hakermania

@izx even if Format Junkie was in there

izx

@haker, yeah, but that isn't as bad as actively promoting one or two apps during the actual...

aking1012

@hakermania there should be a post with votes so far ranking and that's it. just "here are your current rankings...if your fave app isn't in the top 5, GET TO VOTING!!!" /post

hakermania

@izx +1
@aking1012 +2

izx

@aking1012 agreed re fogger

But it's about the principle...

Roland Taylor

14:54

@hakermania that's why I don't think that (especially) a popular blogger should be a judge in a competition like this

jokerdino

hm, meeting is in 30 more minutes. :/

Roland Taylor

makes for great celebrity fan fare, but it's a bad move

aking1012

@izx i'm agreeing with you on both counts

jokerdino

BTW, the person Cooperjava something who did the lightread also redesigned OMG ubuntu site.

Roland Taylor

And I say this with no angst for Joey btw.

jokerdino

14:55

i hate me.

Roland Taylor

(I know someone might just jump on me for above statements)

@jokerdino oh?

Bye guys :)

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor :P

Roland Taylor

I shall avoid further discussion until a later time.

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor he also did the nitro task app btw.

hakermania

@RolandTaylor yepp I know! But what it really bothered me was that the review criteria were not bore in mind :/

Jorge Castro

14:55

we have 130 more apps after than we did before.

don't lose the forest for the trees, there will be more apps, more contests, etc.

jokerdino

okk, before Jorge eats us, we should drop the matter.

hakermania

And I was working on them

aking1012

So I found a reference implementation of a "simple" ogg/theora/vorbis player and I'm thinking about that torrent-video-livestream thing again attempts to migrate the topic

jokerdino

@JorgeCastro More contests whoo!

@hakermania can i have the mailing list for wallch?

Jorge Castro

@jokerdino it doesn't bother me, shrug

hakermania

14:56

@jokerdino should we have a mailing list *confused*

Jorge Castro

I just think the important thing about the contest is to get people writing apps

so that we have them

aking1012

@jokerdino i think that means the mailing list is his inbox

jokerdino

@JorgeCastro heh /me shrug

@hakermania or gimme email id of both of you?

LnxSlck

@izx, i just saw an answer of yours that's really 4 noobs

so detailed

hakermania

@jokerdino [email protected]

jokerdino

14:58

@hakermania is it active or you just spewed it?

hakermania

@jokerdino it is active

jokerdino

@hakermania ok thanks

@JorgeCastro i (and probably most of us) think that was a nice thing to do.

some of us weren't particularly impressed with the results but disagreements happen. We should move on :P

hakermania

@RolandTaylor what bothers me more is the review criteria. We were working on them all the time. See my comment here: disq.us/8bfeli

jokerdino

@hakermania sent email.

izx

@LnxSlck which one would that be? I try to be noob-friendly with answers, comments may be more impatient though...

LnxSlck

15:06

@izx: askubuntu.com/questions/152371/…

it's ok, i was just amazed with some many detail

izx

Yeah, that was speciallt designed to be very n00b-friendly since even long inline pastes in questions bother me.

If you see an answer that is rude or not n00b-friendly though please leave a comment, sometimes I could have been on mobile or not at my most patient :)

aking1012

@izx heh, you're also friendly when someone posts a command-line at least you were to me...

LnxSlck

no @izx, it's great

jokerdino

I abuse izx :P

and his VPS.

BTW, w00t. 3k views on my blog :P

izx

Awesome!

jokerdino

15:10

@izx come by my school :P

i'll get you the shelter

izx

Rofl your school must be the crime scene, not the shelter!

jokerdino

haha.

izx

All those poor students being screwed out of their Internet connections come midnight....

hakermania

@jokerdino which blog?

jokerdino

@hakermania my blog. the link that i spammed on my profile

izx

15:13

I'm sure that provides considerable solace to you from 12-6 AM :p

jokerdino

@izx ah, 45 more minutes

@izx yeah very much.

izx

Close this as too localized? Some bumblebee/Optimus issue preventing him from running Unity 3D.

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Q: missing Launcher icon size slider

In System Settings > Appearance in both Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D, there is no icon size slider (in pixel units). How can I get access to the slider, which I know is visible in some installations of 12.04? Note this question is about the missing slider; not about changing the icon size. If I want...

launcher icons

jokerdino

@izx the answer went southward.

the actual answer is, you are using unity-2d. bye.

izx

Heh, I ahould get a sock puppet just to post snarky things like that :D

htorque

@JorgeCastro done

The Interrupter

15:20

Bounty offered: How to get rid of buggy IntelliJ IDEA dialog that won't go away? http://askubuntu.com/q/173418?atw=1 #gnome

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on August 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

msPeachy

15:53

reached my vote limit again, time to sleep.
Good night everyone. Bye.

hakermania

@msPeachy bye

Amith KK

Hello all

hakermania

@AmithKK hey

jokerdino

bye

Amith KK

@jokerdino bye

@hakermania Hey

hakermania

16:02

@jokerdino bb

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy :( I missed your arrival

aking1012

close queue is getting small \o/

anyone know if do not close and not sure count as "votes" or if it's just a score/way to pass?

Jorge Castro

they don't vote

aking1012

16:25

cool. i was just checking.

Amith KK

16:44

BBT

Good Night

Roland Taylor

lies.

SirCharlo

All lies

GTL

Stephen Myall

Hi All :-) askubuntu.com/q/179486/53498 Self confessed Windows user, see comments in Question. OP doesnt use Ubuntu, marked it as OT, is this correct?

SirCharlo

voted to close

Stephen Myall

@SirCharlo wasnt sure thanks

SirCharlo

16:52

no problem

aking1012

are we sure he meant he's trying to run tomboy on windows and it's not just the self-deprecating "i'm a windows user so i suck at this" thing?

SirCharlo

I don't think so..

hakermania

@aking1012 +1 that is what I thought

SirCharlo

he admits he's in the wrong forum

Stephen Myall

anybody have trouble with LQP review today. States 1.5k post to review, when I click on it it states i have no posts

SirCharlo

16:54

> I am sorry to use this forum to this question

aking1012

@SirCharlo i saw that, i'm just not sure how he meant the thing

@StephenMyall nope. it only showed like 8 for me

SirCharlo

comment updated

aking1012

@SirCharlo cool beans

SirCharlo

thanks

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