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12:09 PM

mobile.twitter.com/Plagman2/status/1142262103106973698

Ubuntu 19.10 and future releases will not be officially supported by Steam or recommended to our users. We will evaluate ways to minimize breakage for existing users, but will also switch our focus to a different distribution, currently TBD.

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2:02 PM

@Rinzwind So Ubuntu is running out of steam? :P

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Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

6:43 PM

@Rinzwind May be a stupid question, but why Steam is not run as container of some sorts ?

@Zanna Have you ever had a pinched nerve ? Surely feels like back stabbing itself

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy there is an unofficial flatpack

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

So it is possible then, which begs the question why it's unofficial. But that's already a satisfactory answer

6:59 PM

yeah well the issue there is... the unofficial flatpak is created with Ubuntu libraries. When those are gone .... where do those come from?

@Rinzwind and @SergiyKolodyazhnyy You guys will hate me but I do my gaming in Windows 10 only. While there I load up Ubuntu in WSL for my bash coding for answering questions in Ask Ubuntu. Some of my bash scripts like for doing laundry I've already converted over to Windows 10 WSL. Other bash scripts using Xorg will be more challenging to convert to Windows 10 WSL.

Generally I only game through Xmas holidays though...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

7:18 PM

shrug I haven't been gaming in years so Steam doesn't bother me at all.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix nope sorry. if you want to game windows is fine

my preference would be console for gaming.

I game almost every day. almost done with sekiro :D

Byte Commander

7:57 PM

omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/…

apparently they're not dropping 32 bit support entirely now after all...

that is odd.

I don't think you can have a v1.0 32-bit match with a v1.01+ 64-bit lib

if canonical wants to do it like that (ship old versions in 32-bit) those have to be renamed. all of them :X

and freezing 32-bit libs is security hole the size of our galaxy :P

1 hour later…

9:20 PM

@Rinzwind Event smart watches have been 64-bit for years. What good is a 32-bit computer other than for the gold and rare earth materials inside that can be recycled?

9:58 PM

sure but those watches are semi-new :=) steam is old

@Rinzwind I could see keeping around a 32-bit computer if it was a server and you had $100 grand of hardware attached to it.

By and large I don't like the concept of Steam and Origin and EA where you have to go on-line to play the game you bought to play locally without internet connection.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix not even this scale, even on a smaller scale many companies still running 32 bit computers because they build their whole infrastructure around it

@Videonauth Yes the 32-bit programming cost $1 million.

ans some small or middle sized companies not suddenly throw out money they might not have for renewing that infrastructure

Bigger companies mostly all have switched over to 64 bit infrastructure

But on the other side my opinion is that 32 bit has to die finally, problem is that for at least games and some apps which are not likely to be reprogrammed in 32 bit those libs should be available

PC's went mainstream at 20-bit (640 KB RAM, 1 MB with AST Sidekick) and eventually they all died out. Same will happen with 32-bit. But usually something like 128-bit comes along to push the string.

10:09 PM

16 bit and yes 640k ram was much back then :D

i remember the times where we struggled to get mouse drivers and all other stuff into the initial 512k ram

Fabby

10:20 PM

@karel Added 50 bounty to stop closing as a dupe (4 close votes attracted already)

A: Can someone explain what these messages are REALLY telling me?

I just got a downvote on this one

init: Failed to spawn hwclock main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory will show up when your disc is seriously messed up. I found 2 ways of getting this to happen: When you use rm -r in your root directory and then reboot. A broken disc/partition table. The 1st is solve...

2011 :x

Well :P

Fabby

@Rinzwind Which shows that even if you're a quarter million rep user, a single downvote still hurts! +1 sympathy vote.

>:-) ;-)

Q: How to make alphabetical sorting work with whitespace?

lol

I was about to delete the answer :=) I have downvotes

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:09 PM

I am on Ubuntu 19.04 ls outputs the following, and this is how it appears in nautilus as well Arca - Arca Arcade Fire - Funeral Arca - Mutant Obviously, this should be as below. Is it possible to make it so in the entire OS? Arca - Arca Arca - Mutant Arcade Fire - Funeral

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