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Q: Ubuntu repo mirror from a specific time

I am helping a group that uses a time-locked Ubuntu 12.04.5 distribution underneath their internally developed software (specific support libraries, extensive QA work, etc). I have been tasked with assembling a locked local repository based on the files that they are already using. Obviously the...

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Q: Where to use Blockquotes and Performatted text and Bold

I have a issue on where to use Block quotes and Per formatted text and Bold. Because sometimes I stuck with how to use those. Please explain in depth.

support editing

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04:48

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Q: Mono Nuget Assembly Error in Linux

My questions is about the microsoft mono package and using it with NuGet. Long story short, I'm hoping I can have a working .NET Engine for a couple of games I wanted to install that requires this. When I try to use the following terminal command mono nuget I end up with a huge log error If i...

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Fabby

07:34

@TheWanderer I've got noscript installed. YouTube is not trusted by default.

:P :P :P

and stackoverfiow isn't neither. Hah!

Byte Commander

@Fabby the new noscript for ff quantum is bad

Use uMatrix

Also, good morning :)

Fabby

@ByteCommander it's different.

Good morning to you too.

Rinzwind

you lot are late :=)

Fabby

Just back from dentist.

Byte Commander

why late? Hi Rinzy

Rinzwind

07:44

I have been working for 2 hours already

/s/working/lurking,g

or something similar :=)

Takkat

same here ... working for years now... still no end in sight

Hi all

Byte Commander

Heyo

Lurking for an hour already as well

Takkat

Yeah - why talk if lurk is possible too :D :D :D

Fabby

Sprechen ist silbern, schweigen ist golden

Rinzwind

takky!

Fabby

07:53

Spreken is zilver, zwijgen is goud.

Better now? >:-)

Rinzwind

zilver :=)

Fabby

Kut! Ik kan zelfs geen Nederlands meer schrijven!

Hi Terdon! What would the expressione be in Greek?

Rinzwind

La parole est d’argent, le silence est d’or
:-)

@Fabby Omilía eínai asími, i siopí eínai chrysós

>:)

Fabby

Actually, you're right, it's "le silence". Just haven't hear that word spoken by the French for > 10 years... 0:-)

Rinzwind

:D

Byte Commander

07:58

el siléncio

dessert

@Fabby I know it as: Sprechen ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold.

Byte Commander

Usually "Reden ist Silber", I'd say

Fabby

It's the Swiss German version.

dessert

oh right

Fabby

@ByteCommander so in German German it woud be:

Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold ?

Byte Commander

07:59

yup

dessert

@Fabby *Schweigen

exactly :)

Fabby

Swiss German is easy to understand, just hard to speak.

dessert

silentium est aureum

Rinzwind

Talar är silver tystnad är guld :=)

Japanese are funny. In Japan it is "Say nothing is a flower" :X

Byte Commander

:D

Rinzwind

08:08

I hate Amy

Been trying to get pass her for 2 weeks now :=)

dessert

@Rinzwind yeah, those geese are truly nasty

Rinzwind

Amy is more a spider :=)

There -> youtube.com/watch?v=CJ5fWojJzKU

Zanna

@Rinzwind a flower can say much without making any sound. The Japanese expression is less silly than the one about a lump of metal

Christopher Perrin

08:58

Hey, since yesterday my 17.10 Machine just gets stuck during boot.

Any has the same problem?

Zanna

no... what package upgrades arrived? can you boot an older kernel or in recovery?

Christopher Perrin

Recovery works but older kernels don't seem to help

It just stops booting and is 100% unresponsive to anything

Zanna

what about fixing packages in recovery? I don't know the menu very well because... my keyboard doesn't work in recovery XD

Christopher Perrin

Tried that

I have isntalled new updates and fscked

The last message I get is
`[ OK ] Started User Manager for UID 130`

Zanna

(if you put any newlines in a chat message, it kills all the formatting , unless you indent the whole thing)

I guess whatever happens after starting user manager is broken...

there was an upgrade to libpam-modules but shrug idk

I guess you should write a question on the site with all this info?

might be a bug...

Christopher Perrin

09:08

I think this is my Problem: askubuntu.com/questions/1025722/ubuntu-17-10-does-not-get-up

Zanna

wow... how can you tell... so little information

Byte Commander

Looks like a problem with gdm3

You should be able to get a shell login on a TTY

(press Ctrl+Alt+F1, enter username and password when asked)

I had that in a few VMs too, but I can't remember if and how I solved it

IIRC I just nuked the VM...

possibly a graphics driver problem

Christopher Perrin

I can't use the tty

It is completeley frozen

I had thought of that

@Zanna It's very little information but the timeframe and problem fits

Zanna

we probably need some more info to begin answering that question, either from OP or elsewhere...

Christopher Perrin

(Pressed enter before finishing the text )

What can I add to help?

This might be related bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1558337

Takkat

09:21

@Fabby both is hard, apparently even for Swiss people: youtube.com/watch?v=QOwITNazUKg ;)

Christopher Perrin

No isn't related

Videonauth

@ByteCommander On 18.04 tty'S are only created by demand, can't tell you where you went wrong, maybe its related with gdm running under wayland

Zanna

that Started User Manager comes quite late in the boot process I think? After that in my syslog I have

/var/log/syslog.1-Apr 18 07:45:56 toaster systemd[1]: Stopped User Manager for UID 112.
/var/log/syslog.1-Apr 18 07:45:56 toaster systemd[1]: Removed slice User Slice of lightdm.
/var/log/syslog.1-Apr 18 07:45:56 toaster systemd[1149]: Started D-Bus User Message Bus.
/var/log/syslog.1-Apr 18 07:45:56 toaster dbus-daemon[1192]: Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.Daemon' unit='gvfs-daemon.service'
/var/log/syslog.1-Apr 18 07:45:56 toaster systemd[1149]: Starting Virtual filesystem service...

(I use MATE, which uses LightDM, not GDM)

Byte Commander

09:37

@Videonauth 17.10

/shrug

Videonauth

you can try setting gdm3 to x11 mode

Byte Commander

I don't have the problem any more

Videonauth

$ cat /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
# GDM configuration storage
#
# See /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas for a list of available options.

[daemon]
# Uncoment the line below to force the login screen to use Xorg
#WaylandEnable=false

# Enabling automatic login
#  AutomaticLoginEnable = true
#  AutomaticLogin = user1

# Enabling timed login
#  TimedLoginEnable = true
#  TimedLogin = user1
#  TimedLoginDelay = 10

[security]

[xdmcp]

[chooser]

[debug]
# Uncomment the line below to turn on debugging
# More verbose logs

change #WaylandEnable=false to WaylandEnable=false to activate x11 mode on gdm3

can somehow as well set a special amount of tty's being pre started

per default they set it to zero

so if you request a tty it is created this very moment

F1 is the login window whatever you do, F2 is your desktop if you're logged in, F3 to F7 are tty's.

dessert

@Videonauth is this 17.10 or 18.04 you're talking about?

Videonauth

@dessert both

I even wrote an answer a couple of moths ago

and @ponsky covered a lot of topics around gnome3 too

99,99% apply to 18.04 too

only thing I did was, I installed vanilla gnome instead of canonical's off spin

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A: How to turn off Ubuntu 17.10's GUI (GDM)?

To stop it: sudo systemctl gdm stop To disable it completely: sudo systemctl gdm disable To start it: sudo systemctl gdm start and to re-enable it: sudo systemctl gdm enable To see the actually running services systemctl --state running

54

A: How do I switch between console mode and GUI in 17.10?

The actual used tty consoles have changed around with the introduction of Wayland and 17.10. Now tty1 always contains the login screen, and tty2 contains your actual loaded session. So use Ctrl+Alt+F3 up to Ctrl+Alt+F7 for getting to an actual unused tty and use Ctrl+Alt+F2 to go back to GUI. F...

(shameless self promotion, I know just wanted to point out that we have already lots of answers which apply for 18.04, we have a high wave of duplicates incomming when 18.04 is out officially)

dessert

09:56

no shame in that, but the second answer you linked above seem to link this change to wayland, which 18.04 doesn't use by default…

Videonauth

Oh, new kernel just flowing in

er it uses wayland for gdm3

the file i posted up there is unchanged

and waylandEnable=False is commented out

I'm on 18.04 and not changed that yet

had no need to

dessert

that's confusing oO

Videonauth

on 17.10 i did run on x11 mode and do not see any differences in behavior

your desktop is x11 by default but not your login manager

dessert

ah, ok – I didn't think this would make any sense, obviously it does ;)

Videonauth

this is why you have your login manager at tty 1

always

you can log in different sessions if you whish to do so

they would slowly fill up the tty's

but to be honest as log it is only the login managr running wayland im fine with it, the login manager does not need to run screencapture capabilities

but the desktop does, for example running OBS etc

dessert

10:03

@Videonauth exactly what I thought, I agree it's a good thing

Videonauth

to be honest unless a month ago where i had to reinstall i had 17.10 and it was stable as heck

18.04 had some issues for me sadly

at first steam was not working out of the box

but that is solved now

the latest updates made 18.04 far more stable

Christopher Perrin

10:21

Interestingly I got to the login screen now bot now it's completely frozen again ....

Zanna

buggy driver I would say :/

Christopher Perrin

Hmmm

And I booted in Xorg now

Any Ideas what I coudl try?

Or more what else

Zanna

if you boot with initctl_debug and no_console_suspend parameters, you might get a hint as to what is happening when the system hangs

Christopher Perrin

Do they get their own line or are these kernel options?

Zanna

kernel options

they go where quiet splash was

I guess you already removed those...

Christopher Perrin

10:31

yup

TheWanderer

13:57

there we go

had to clear cookies

Rinzwind

Chocolate chip cookies <3

TheWanderer

14:24

hmm

YouTube has a really iffy Spanish interface

the sidebar and options are in Spanish

everything else it English still

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Q: No titlebar and no scrollbars in a gtk3 app in Plasma desktop

up vote 0 down vote favorite I'm using a GTK3 app called Tilix. It's a terminal app. I have 2 computers with KDE Neon based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. In one of them, Tilix works ok. In the other one, no title bars and no scrollbars are painted. It is like they were transparent. Investiganting a lit...

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Pandya

16:11

Ubuntu-Libre (lol); I mean Trisquel 8.0 LTS is finally released!

Fabby

17:11

@TheWanderer You awake?

@Zanna You awake?

Zanna

yes...

Fabby

Whew!

Having some difficulties with DNS in Ubuntu (running on Windows now)

can you do a :

nmcli device show wlp2s0

(or whatever the network connection is you're currently using)

and post the output here, please? @Zanna

Zanna

which parts of that information are sensitive? XD

Fabby

GENERAL.HWADDR:

Actually, I only need:

IP4.ROUTE[1]: dst = 169.254.0.0/16, nh = 0.0.0.0, mt = 1000

(as that's the one that looks suspicious in my set-up)

Zanna

IP4.ROUTE[1]: dst = 169.254.0.0/16, nh = 0.0.0.0, mt = 1000

Fabby

17:17

Urgh, so that's not it then...

back to square 1

Thanks!

Zanna

sorry :/

Fabby

Never be sorry about anything that you didn't cause personally!

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(So unless you remoted into my machine and screwed up something to spite me, *don't apologize! :D)

@terdon do you know a bit about networking and have 5 minutes?

terdon

@Fabby Not really. I mean, try me, but networking is certainly not an area I am knowledgeable about. Probably a good deal less so than you are.

Fabby

I'm not getting name resolution on Ubuntu (running on Windows now)

terdon

local or remote?

Fabby

17:23

executing nmcli device show wlp2s0 gives

and I get:

nslookup
> google.com
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> server 1.1.1.1
Default server: 1.1.1.1
Address: 1.1.1.1#53
> google.com
Server:		1.1.1.1
Address:	1.1.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:	google.com
Address: 172.217.21.238
>

@terdon (which answers your question)

terdon

It does indeed. OK, that's weird.

Fabby

so although I've set the DNS servers manually, not working...

terdon

It does eventually, right? I mean, your 1st attempt shows it failing, but the same nslookup later works.

Fabby

(removed as it contains sensitive stuff)

that's because in nslookup I have to set the server manually too!

terdon

Ah, only when using 1.1.1.1. and not with 8

I see

Fabby

17:26

it doesn't take it from the config!

terdon

Yeah, sorry, I'm not the right person to ask about this sort of thing.

Fabby

Just weird... OK, question time

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Q: How Ubuntu and Debian manages $HOME in user with sudo privileges?

I have a bash script myhome.sh containing only one line: echo $HOME The script's owner is a user: $ ls -l myhome.sh -rw-rw-r-- 1 user user <date> <time> myhome.sh In Ubuntu 16.04 and 17.10 I get: $ echo $HOME /home/user $ sudo echo $HOME /home/user $ bash myhome.sh /home/user $ sudo bas...

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Fabby

18:13

test

Rinzwind

unknown command: test

dessert

$

Fabby

19:10

@terdon Problem solved and:

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Q: I'm having DNS problems, but can still ping 1.1.1.1: How do I still search the Stack Exchange network?

I'm having name server resolution problems on one of my machines in my network, but I can still still ping 1.1.1.1 and I get a reply, so there is no Internet problem, just a DNS problem. Can I still search the Stack Exchange network to look for solutions to my problem from the machine I'm havi...

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:D :D :D

@Rinzwind :D That was after my DNS problem was solved!

@JourneymanGeek You around?

Journeyman Geek

Yup. Working nights

Fabby

Urgh...

Journeyman Geek

Lol

Not too bad today. I slept allllllll day

Fabby

well, I just wanted to point out that this one is NAA as well.

dessert

@Fabby you typed “still” twice in the question

Fabby

19:15

so I feel a bit miffed that a downvote from the other user on my better NAA answer than his has been deleted.

(probably after a downvote from said user, as there is no good answer)

But: I will bow to the wisdom of the mod! @JourneymanGeek

Thomas Ward

drops a truckload of salt on @Fabby for no apparent reason

Fabby

@dessert huh?

Thomas Ward

oops

dessert

@Fabby but I can still still ping 1.1.1.1

Fabby

@ThomasWard I'd prefer herbs as I don't use salt!

:D :D :D

Thomas Ward

19:18

well at least it was just salt and not diamond powered firebombs

dessert

@Fabby it's just too short for an edit suggestion ;P

Fabby

@dessert Corrected.

dessert

@Fabby atta boy

Fabby

@ThomasWard You want to go into an explosives smiting battle with a Chemist???

I can make the damn stuff!

@muru Just for you: vi answer as that's the most prevalent editor on any *nix system.

Byte Commander

vi ಠ_ಠ

aka "How to turn a web developer into a random character generator"

Fabby

19:24

meh, it has a bit of a learning curve but it's actually quite efficient.

I use nano though on my system, but can use vi if nano is not available.

BRB

Byte Commander

I know how to quit it

usually

Thomas Ward

@Fabby ah, so you're the one who put the thermite on the "Orbital Weapons Control Panel" and rigged it to go off when I got close.

Byte Commander

eh, thermite is one of the easiest things...

we made that at school

Fabby

@ByteCommander [Esc][:][q][!] always works.

@ThomasWard :D :D :D

(also: what ByteCommander said: thermite is easy)

Thomas Ward

i know it's easy :P

Fabby

19:32

Nitrocellulose is easy too, but the ingrediantes are a bit harder to get.

TNT is average, Nitroglycerine is a bit more difficult.

Thomas Ward

(unrelated, did you know the Hindenburg disaster was a result of the thermite-like mix in its coating/paint combined with the hydrogen used to keep it afloat all being set off by some type of spark or heat or fire)

Byte Commander

Hmm, wasn't that what table tennis balls and old film rolls were made of?

Fabby

I'm typing and it dissapears

Byte Commander

(the nitrocellulose)

Fabby

@ThomasWard yup.

@ByteCommander yup

Byte Commander

19:39

I remember how we set some table tennis balls aflame in Chemistry class as demonstration.

Was far less spectacular than we hoped, though :P

terdon

@Fabby nice!

Fabby

It was an answer on Ask Ubuntu that helped me:

I needed to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf and that was it!

Fabby

20:07

@dessert Can you star my SU question here above? Everyone should know about it here!

Ice cream time!!!

Thanks!

dessert

you mean dessert!

Fabby

@dessert :D

Fabby

20:25

@cl-netbox: guess what? I lost my NVRAM today because I did a BIOS update. Boot-repair could not repair it, but booting in rEFInd from USB and dropping into an EFI shell allowed me to quickly do a bcfg boot add 3 fs1:\EFI\EFI/refind/refind_x64.efi "rEFInd Boot Manager" and a bcfg boot mv 4 0

Byte Commander

sounds like sorcery

Fabby

Windows Boot Manager and grub are both still completely separate!

@ByteCommander UEFI is a bitch if you've used BIOS for 30 years.

Byte Commander

even if just 10 years

Fabby

A decade? Man, you're getting old!

:D ;) :D

Byte Commander

i know

don't remind me

Fabby

20:28

>:-)

going to do some close voting, movie and sleep!

Byte Commander

sounds good

seeya

Fabby

Ciao!

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20:44

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Q: AttributeError: module 'lib' has no attribute 'X509_up_ref'

No matter what module I try to install via pip3 install I always get the same error : AttributeError: module 'lib' has no attribute 'X509_up_ref' Have no idea how to solve this one. Anyone had this issue before? This image below is showing exactly the same error while trying to install a diff...

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TheWanderer

21:49

I just found out that you can press F4 in Dolphin to open a mini terminal widget

Fabby

Dolphin: KDE file manager?

TheWanderer

yis

KDE is crazy powerful

Fabby

Plasma?

I'm thinking of migrating to Manjaro KDE Plasma

Seth

It's definitely the plasma.

TheWanderer

ye

Plasma is amazing

Seth

21:53

Infusing things with plasma makes them very powerful, but it also adds a dizzying array of configuration options.

TheWanderer

@Seth shush

you sound like @ThomasWard

Fabby

:D :D :D

Seth

I'll be here all night

Fabby

Mods will be mods!!!

Rebooting. BRB

Ask Ubuntu Meta

22:39

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How come I can't give a reason when I select "Reject and Edit"? I want to give a reason to the user to help them improve. Usually I end up selecting "Reject", going to the post link and separately editing.

discussion suggested-edits

TheWanderer

23:11

AGHHH

Now I can't log OUT from AU

@NathanOsman I was gonna start remaking ChatExchange, but then I remembered I don't know how the auth works...

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