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Seth

00:37

HUE user interface

Fabby

Thanks! :-)

You time to review a question of mine on meta.se before I post it and get downvoted into obivion? @Seth

Please? Pretty please with rainbosw and unicorns?

Seth

@Fabby it was a joke

Fabby

Please explain, I didn't get it...

Seth

@Fabby I'm off to dinner now, but sure. Send it to me and I'll read it in a bit.

@Fabby One of @TheWanderer's favorite responses is a simple "hue"

Fabby

Ah!!

/shrug Didn't know...

TheWanderer

00:44

hue

Organic Marble

@Fabby is this how I ping you?

Fabby

yup.

I'm going to do one like this one @OrganicMarble

links to multiple answers...

Organic Marble

Cool. It took me a minute to realize that you were answering your own question. Nice job.

Fabby

Yeah... :-)

Organic Marble

This iso boot from grub is a great thing, it's a real pain to get my Asus to boot from USB. Once I found this, I never looked back.

Fabby

00:56

I don't post many questions and when I do, most of them are Q&As...

@OrganicMarble on UEFI?

or MBR?

Organic Marble

Yes, it's UEFI. It takes me two boots to boot from a USB...

Fabby

Poor cl-netbox has been doing this for years and couldn't figure out my problem...

@OrganicMarble it does???

I've set USB boot to a higher priority in the UEFI shell

Organic Marble

At least that is the only way I can get it to work. I have to boot it, reconfigure UEFI settings, and then reboot into the USB. The UEFI interface is hideously complex compared to what I'm used to with BIOS.

Fabby

You're just not as used to it as BIOS is all.

I installed rEFInd to be able to boot to a UEFI shell.

in there you can manipulate the NVRAM directly if your UEFI settings don't allow you to change the boot priority directly.

Organic Marble

This Asus is screen after screen of settings...but yeah. I was so happy when I got 14.04 successfully installed as a dual booter, I really didn't want to ever look at that UEFI again.

Fabby

01:00

you can also use efibootmgr directly from Ubuntu.

Organic Marble

I think I'm good now to boot the 18.04 installer from the iso using grub, and Clonezilla. Hopefully that will suffice for the life time of this system - it's already 5 years old.

Fabby

@OrganicMarble what's the output of efibootmr on your machine?

Organic Marble

Well, I will look forward to reading the rest of your entries. I have the 18.04 iso, clonezilla, and boot-repair set up already. I would welcome any others! Cheers, OM

Fabby

boot-repair!!!

downloading and setting reminder to self to add that one too!

@OrganicMarble I'll ping you, thanks for the help already!!!

you need to drop by once in a while here: much better to chat then to leave comments below questions...

Could you delete the last comment you posted as I'm going to remove the "Ping me in chat" comment... @OrganicMarble

this one: askubuntu.com/questions/1025656/…

Fabby

01:36

Yes, I'm aware of Jeff Atwood's original [blog post](https://blog.stackexchange.com/2008/12/why-cant-i-accept-my-own-answer/) *from 2008* and the [partial relent](https://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/01/accept-your-own-answers/) *from 2009* and [the other question](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/6044/why-must-i-wait-2-days-before-accepting-my-own-answer) and [another](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/16880/allow-accepting-my-own-answer-without-waiting-48-hours-in-light-of-accept-rate) and [yet another](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/21265/auto-accept-self-answer-i…

@Seth --^ To post or not to post???

(asking for a purely personal and subjective opinion)

(if you have the time)

Hi @NathanOsman ... How are you?

Nathan Osman

I'm doing alright.

How about you?

Fabby

First day of holiday: Bought 2 pairs of Jeans...

:-) I'm happy about the little things: last time I bought clothes was 2 years ago... :-)

During the week-ends I have no time: DR Tests, washing clothes, buying groceries, visiting relatives, ...

(hope you didn't think I don't wash myself for an entire week)

>:-) >:-) >:-)

Nathan Osman

03:01

Benchmarking time.

NAS => SSD over gigabit ethernet = 74 MB/s.

SSD => SATA HDD over USB 3.0 = 55 MB/s.

Hmm... that is very odd.

The HDD is NTFS-formatted though.

Let me perform a raw benchmark on the drive's write speed...

Reformatted as ext4.

Now I'm getting 95 MB/s.

Too bad I don't have another SSD sitting around here somewhere.

cl-netbox

06:14

@Fabby PUH ... great Fabby ! :) I'm glad that we could solve it ... the only thing left was the BIOS settings (boot priority etc.) and with that I have no chance to help you, because I can't see them and because every BIOS / UEFI is different ... anyway : good to know that it works now ! :)

Fabby

08:19

@cl-netbox Thank you very much for your help (only got up now as I was up way too late°) and sorry for frustrating you because *you knew you were right!

:D :D :D*

cl-netbox

@Fabby Good morning my friend ! :) You're welcome ! :) I'm glad that I could help you - really ! :)

Fabby

:-) :-) :-)

cl-netbox

@Fabby Are you on hangouts ? If not, please join me there ... :)

Sean Comeau

Anyone know why Ubuntu 17.10 'virt-install --os-variant' / 'osinfo-query os' is missing the ubuntu17.10 target? It only has up to 17.04 and it has all the .04 and .10 for everything going back to version 5...

Fabby

@SeanComeau File a bug? Maybe someone just forgot...

Sean Comeau

08:46

What does the --os-variant really do anyway? I've tried to install a 17.10 desktop guest with a target of 17.04 and after the reboot after install it just freezes up. 16.04 LTS and OpenBSD guests work fine.

Where's the proper place to file that bug report anyway?

Journeyman Geek

09:00

@Fabby ping

I'm terrible for doing this but... do you want this gone? superuser.com/a/1314120/10165

Fabby

@SeanComeau lmgtfy.com/?q=Ubuntu+file+bug

@JourneymanGeek looking

@JourneymanGeek :-) +1 would be good.

:-) probably the other person giving advice nd not answering the question who did that.

Journeyman Geek

hah

Fabby

I need to go buy groceries...

Byte Commander

@Fabby lmddgtfy!

Fabby

:wave: be back in a few hours!

Byte Commander

09:03

o/

Fabby

\o

TTUL8R.

Journeyman Geek

tbh, I'm pretty sure since non "gina" apps can use fingerprint scanners, it might be doable

(gina is/was the same as PAM - basically different ways to log into a system securely)

Sean Comeau

@JourneymanGeek yeah what I was getting at is whether its a virsh bug or a qemu bug or an osinfo bug..

Journeyman Geek

lol

@SeanComeau I was talking to @Fabby about a SU post ;p

I'm a moderator there + I know fabby has always been here ;p

Sean Comeau

oh sorry I meant to @Fabby there

Fabby

10:53

@JourneymanGeek In Linux: Yes. In Windows??? Without Microsoft?

(sorry: was doing grocery shopping.)

Fabby

11:10

Oh, I see now what you did: deleted the answer... @JourneymanGeek

Well, I followed harry's orders!

The other answer is NAA too. If I downvote, will you delete that one too?

(not trying to be a pain in the butt, just asking)

Journeyman Geek

11:28

could flag it

and eh, I didn't do it cause of harry ;p

TheWanderer

11:46

need a German to translate

Ich verstehe in diesem Fall die bisherige Bewertung nicht. Zunächst braucht
es Freischaltungen auf Kommandozeile per ADB, die leider einzeln kopiert
werden müssen. Dann besteht die App zur Hälfte aus Warnungen, zur
Deinstallation wird nichts rückgängig gemacht. Zum Schluss noch ein
Hinweis: Google unterstützt so gut wie nichts hiervon. Nutzung auf eigenes
Risiko, was nicht bereits nativ angeboten wird.

oops

Byte Commander

Google?

Guy doesn't understand the other reviews. Says it needs some unlocks in the CLI using ADB, which have to be copied separately.

Half the app are just warnings, and deinstalling doesn't undo anything

Rinzwind

@ByteCommander well done

Sehr gut :=)

Byte Commander

And a hint: Google doesn't support most of it, usage on own risk, which isn't already provided natively (not sure what he wants to say there)

o/ Rinzy

Rinzwind

The 1st sentense misses context too.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

12:59

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Q: How do I use the grey formating in a comment?

Someone showed me (by editing my question for me) how to make some of your text show up grey to set it apart. Now I need to know how to do it in a comment.

Rinzwind

14:45

weird ->

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Q: I accidentally stopped wiping my hard drive half way through. Why won't my system boot?

I was trying to wipe my hard drive but then accidentally cancelled. About 30 seconds later Ubuntu powered down and now I can't get back on. What has happened to my OS? What does this mean?

boot

Thomas Ward

15:00

TBH that sounds like a troll post.

Zanna

ok I am back

Thomas Ward

but i'm not going to do anything about it until that's proven :P

Seth

15:21

@Zanna wb

Zanna

:) thanks

Seth

@Fabby I'm not sure I understand what you're asking there

Well it is now the 3rd wettest April on record here. Yay.. 5.25" of rain this month. 18" for the year.. It's been wet lol.

Fabby

15:51

That link goes to one of cl-netbox's replies.

cl-netbox

@Fabby What ? Which one are you talking about ? :D

Fabby

Seth asked me a question and linked to one of you replies...

Ah! damn notofication bar.

cl-netbox

And which one was it @Fabby ?

Fabby

@Seth no worries: you were out to lunch yesterday....

Forget about it. Imm posting after a final review.

@cl-netbox Nah, I'm an idiot!

cl-netbox

By the way @Fabby - have you seen the explanation regarding the layout of my disks I've sent you on hangouts ? :)

Fabby

15:55

No, just the screen shots.

lemme check

cl-netbox

@Fabby I'm confused ... :D ... please explain ! :)

@Fabby I sent the message about an hour ago - it's related to the screenshots. :)

Fabby

@cl-netbox I thought Seth linked to one of your replies to one of my questions to you as the h-bar event was hiding what he was talking about.

@cl-netbox Grocery shopping and cooking and gmail is to send messages, not read!

:D

checking right now

cl-netbox

??? okay :D :D :D

@Fabby I said hangouts - not gmail ! :D

Fabby

@cl-netbox Phone is in the car... gimme 5 minutes

L. D. James

Hi! Can a moderator trigger this dialog to a chat askubuntu.com/questions/1025556/…

vidarlo

16:01

@ThomasWard thanks for the correction =)

Thomas Ward

you have a second one

because you've now got a contradiction within your own post

grammar enforcement mode: ACTIVE

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vidarlo

goes to bed ashamed

@ThomasWard It's hard to spot ones own mistakes at times :)

Thomas Ward

this is why we are here :P

vidarlo

hehe, yeah :)

Thomas Ward

I would post the gold-foil "you tried" star, but I didn't want to come off as an annoying person :p

vidarlo

16:05

that's a little too late ;)

and strictly speaking the answer is not an answer, but I feel that people who want to enable telnet should not enable telnet

Fabby

0

Q: Can the answer of a Q&A be auto-accepted when both are posted at the same time?

Yes, I'm aware of Jeff Atwood's original blog post from 2008 and the partial relent from 2009 and the other question and another and yet another... So this question is not about: not finding a solution, being exasperated, posting a question and a few minutes or hours later finding a solution and...

feature-request accepted-answer instant-self-answer

@cl-netbox: you're the "resident expert" in above question!!!

0:-) 0:-) 0:-)

@ThomasWard starred!u

Thomas Ward

@vidarlo To list advantages would be "too broad". To list disadvantages would also be "Too Broad"

cl-netbox

@Fabby Why that ?

Thomas Ward

so maybe I should execute question.close(reason="Too broad");

Fabby

@cl-netbox Read it and click the link where it says resident expert

:-)

vidarlo

16:09

@ThomasWard Disadvantages are dead simple: NSA and Insecure.

cl-netbox

@Fabby first thing I see is : -1 ! seems to be a DV day ... I received a DV on my first AU answer I've written this year ... :(

Fabby

@cl-netbox Huh?

cl-netbox

@Fabby Yes, you have -1 on that post (I'll compensate that now) ... and I got a DV on AU ...

Done @Fabby ! :) Now it's 0

Fabby

@cl-netbox on the one you posted yesterday or so?

cl-netbox

@Fabby yes ... can't understand it - but ...

terdon

16:16

@Fabby having an accepted answer often discourages others from answering (which is a bad thing). You might want to explain what good things your suggestion would bring. What benefit is there in having an accepted answer?

Personally, I would much rather get rid of the accept feature altogether, for instance, since it seems to cause more drama than it's worth.

cl-netbox

Read the meta post now : You should accept your own answer ! :) Although not very nice in which "light you let me shine" ... joke ! :D

Fabby

@terdon Actually, that's a really great idea!

cl-netbox

By the way @Fabby : The comment from organic marble is wrong - clonezilla is from the same dev team as gparted and iso booting works exactly the same way, right as I've showed you. :)

Hi terdon ! :)

Fabby

@terdon Ive been having a smoke pondering your proposal: for niche questions, you need an acceptance. (questions with 10 views)

For other questions, the most upvoted answer should rise to the top automatically even when there is an accepted answer.

terdon

@Fabby Yes. That's the best argument in favor of them I can think of too.

Fabby

16:23

(one of mine is like that: I had to link to the good answer and saying "this is a bad answer, have a like [here]")

cl-netbox

@Fabby Do you have a mixed setup of UEFI and compatibility mode ? Asking because of your hdX,gptY thing ... I have a (clean) EFI setup and as you know my partitions show up as expected.

Fabby

@cl-netbox not that I'm aware of: UEFI and GPT...

do you have UEFI and msdos?

then they should show up as you see them.

cl-netbox

@Fabby no ... of course NOT ! that complicates everything ... you never should do that : make it be either EFI / GPT OR legacy BIOS / msdos !

Fabby

You can have old drives still with msdos and boot drives with GPT.

cl-netbox

@Fabby Drop the old drives - I mean for built-in usage ... you can use old external drives without a problem while being msdos on a pure EFI / GPT setup

Fabby

16:34

I did

cl-netbox

@Fabby You should set up the whole BIOS / EFI thing to pure UEFI and use only GPT for built-in disks

Fabby

@terdon What should I do with the question? revamp completely?

(or get downvoted into oblivion?)

cl-netbox

@Fabby I give you an upvote now ! :)

Done @Fabby ! :) now you have +4 on your answer ! :)

terdon

@Fabby Well,if you have a decent argument why the accept would be beneficial, go ahead and make it.

if instead Catija convinced her, accept her answer.

cl-netbox

Good afternoon / evening terdon ! :)

terdon

16:41

o/

Fabby

@terdon annwer accepted and title added.

However, next time, I'll go on AU meta first and meta.se next...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Usability is compromised on Ubuntu because of read-only filesystem error

Over the past couple of days Ubuntu has been progressively locking me out of the the system. I can't open some programs and the last straw was a few minutes ago when it refused to save a screenshot. The error I constantly see is that the filesystem is read-only. I've also been forced to perform f...

ubuntu filesystems dual-boot fsck readonly

vidarlo

I agree with the premise that a read only FS may compromise usability...

Fabby

17:02

He should back up immediately! (left a comment already)

OK, back to reading Kernel memory management)

actually, ice cream first!!!

Thomas Ward

steals @Fabby's ice cream

Fabby

17:23

@ThomasWard I'm on holiday, so I decided to go for the Rum&Coke instead of banana ice cream...

Thomas Ward

steals the booze

no more rum for you :P

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to configure networking and internet access with the intel x553 networking chip?

I'm having trouble getting networking configured on my NAS using this mainboard: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-4C-HLN4F.cfm which is running an Intel Atom C3000 CPU and an intel x553 networking chipset, with Ubuntu Server 17.10. The chip is already recognized and has ...

ubuntu networking network-interface internet

Fabby

@ThomasWard :D :D :D You're on a roll today! ;-)

Thomas Ward

heh

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard Hi ! :)

Thomas Ward

17:38

greetings

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard Thanks :)

TheWanderer

19:23

sigh

Arrow could've been so good

TheWanderer

19:56

I think the worst part is probably the terrible audio mixing

I don't know that much about bombs, but I don't think you can disarm one by jamming an electrically-charged arrow into the explosive...

Fabby

20:10

@TheWanderer You probably can overload an electronic ignition with a sufficiently high amp, low voltage discharge.

TheWanderer

by putting that electricity straight into the explosive?

Fabby

I need more chemical info: which explosive are we talking about? could be ionized...

most modern explosives are hard to set uff

Are we talking pre-WWI here? what's the context?

TheWanderer

high tech

present time

either plastic or C4

Fabby

C4 doesn't conduct electricity well as far as I can remember.

TheWanderer

so why would that short out the ignition?

Fabby

20:15

lemme look up the relative permittivity

meh not many lists out there, so I'd have to calculate it.

@TheWanderer Sounds too much like work and I'm on vacation.

vidarlo

@Fabby There's no such thing as vacation

Fabby

@vidarlo It depends on your definition.

What's your definition of "vacation"?

vidarlo

@Fabby Havent had any 6-7 years :D

Fabby

@vidarlo I haven't had one in 5 years.

I'm having one now.

vidarlo

relaxing, drinking beer and hanging out on AU?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

20:28

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Q: OpenVPN - Keep local routes

I've setup OpenVPN on my Ubuntu (16.04 / OpenVPN 2.4) box to start at boot. This work in the sense that a connection gets established, but unfortunately it also seems to mess with my routing tables: I am unable to reach the box once the VPN connection is up. My first attempt was adding another ...

ubuntu openvpn

Fabby

@vidarlo Relaxing, watching a movie, drinking Rum&Coke

vidarlo

@Fabby Sounds like a good definition of holiday =)

Fabby

So you're hanging out here. That's one of 3

vidarlo

I'm drinking beer

Fabby

drinking beer so you have 2/3 already

Why can't you relax?

vidarlo

20:30

I can. No work for three days

rest of week I will spend taking pictures of a ferry.

which is rather relaxing

Fabby

There! So you'll be on a holiday for 3 days.

Need to work Saturday? Sunday?

then it's a 5-day vacation!!!

vidarlo

haha

Fabby

Always look on the bright side of life...

vidarlo

it's actually work, but rather pleasant work - just travelling and taking pictures and talking

A fellow german of yours would consider it a perfect holiday

fjordfaehren.de

Fabby

Fjordferger i Norge!

For me it would definitely be work, because I don't like boats...

vidarlo

20:34

I love 'em

TheWanderer

ooh

Fabby

@TheWanderer insecure connection? What is that?

TheWanderer

dammit

stackoverfiow.com/questions/49887052/…

TheWanderer

20:55

Seth

21:31

I'm still shocked that any of this is such a surprise.

Like, us tech people have only been saying this was happening since... well since forever.

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