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ajmitch

00:00

I'm really tempted to build a new desktop computer, my one at home is a little dated now

Roland Taylor

I'll upvote you

under one condition

ajmitch

that you'll get me to 5k rep?

Roland Taylor

you must have a working, useful, launchpad lens

right now

George Edison

Does this example give anyone the impression that I'm misusing popovers? jsfiddle.net/george_edison/HG4u4

ajmitch

then I won't be upvoted

jrg

00:01

I have never seriously used a lens other than the application one.

lazyPower

I use the ssh lens fairly often

Roland Taylor

Gasp someone upvoted you :O

I wonder if it was me :D

jrg

mainly because I just "grep" and "find" my files, google my youtube videos and search in google music for my music. :P

ajmitch

@RolandTaylor if it was you, I hope it was due to the answer being useful

Roland Taylor

@jrg lol same here except I don't use google music

ajmitch

00:02

@jrg when you've got a few million files, find takes awhile

Questions Feed

Can you answer this? Is there a usage count for packages or programs? http://askubuntu.com/questions/118886/is-there-a-usage-count-for-packages-or-programs?atw=1 #packages

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George Edison

Anyone?

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison JOIN LE HANGOUT

lazyPower

@GeorgeEdison i dont think so.. its fairly large though.

George Edison

Hmm.... I'm not 100% sure how to change that.

lazyPower

00:06

use the standard hover over star + click combo for rating

George Edison

Okay, it looks like that's my only option then. Thanks for the feedback.

ajmitch

@RolandTaylor this hangout needs more music

lazyPower

np

@RolandTaylor i'll join, gimme a sec to install my other webcam

otherwise you will be staring at my wall, and occasionally see my cat jump around

Roland Taylor

np

lazyPower

ok i'm ready to rock whenever you want to send the invite

jrg

00:12

I'm missing something.

@lazyPower invited you

William

@jrg @RolandTaylor Just wanted to formally apologize for the fail hangout.

jrg

@William no need to.

stuff happens

William

Doing anything on my computer with parents around is darn near impossible.

However, when I come back from Arizona, I'll be home alone some and can hang out then.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: No sound with fresh Kubuntu install

I've just taken the plunge and installed Kubuntu as my main desktop env but I can't get the sound to work, and was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to help me work out what the problem is. I don't even know where to start looking to be honest - I'm not a guru, so please be gentle. I saw ...

William

Hangout still going on?

Roland Taylor

00:21

yep

you can join it

*in

William

ok

might

jrg

00:38

HOLY WHAATTTT

@RolandTaylor stop it, we'll rejoin

ajmitch

random people are random?

jrg

@lazyPower we don't normally have this happen.

you noticed ajmitch?

ajmitch

where did these people come from? :)

jrg

NO IDEA

ajmitch

I thought they might have been your friends :)

jrg

00:39

@RolandTaylor seriously. Just uh, kill the hangout.

I know none of them.

@RolandTaylor this went out of hand.

that hangout went out of hand, I left.

ajmitch

yeah, I'm heading out again anyway, will see you later :)

jrg

see you around @ajmitch.

i'll let you know how this goes...

Roland Taylor

ARGH

@jrg HONESTLY THIS HAS NOTHING to do with me

jrg

Just kill it. Because the little kids invaded us.

@RolandTaylor i know.

happened last time i had a G+ hangout

Roland Taylor

and they left

finally

so you can rejoin

jrg

00:43

i made the mistake of tweeting it, and had a bunch of russians (i think) show up and crash the party

Thanks.

Roland Taylor

ohhhh

George Edison

00:57

What happened?

rlemon

01:10

jsfiddle.net/rlemon/YgsSD/embedded/result

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor there is one working. kinda. launchpad lens

If you want the binary, i can make one and up it to dropbox

jrg

@RolandTaylor they are invading again!

ajmitch

@jokerdino I wouldn't trust it

jokerdino

@ajmitch it is the one from your bazaar branch.

ajmitch

exactly

jokerdino

01:24

i tried it and it was working. kinda

ajmitch

but mostly not working, and I want to rewrite it but haven't had time to sit down & do it properly

jokerdino

yeah.

there is no scope or anything.

it is not really functional. :?

ajmitch

no scope, because like other lenses the scope is built in, rather than a separate process

Marco Ceppi

So, I'm breaking my computer on purpose

jokerdino

i thought that was a missing functionality :P

Marco Ceppi

01:27

I forced dpkg installed two packages that "technically" conflict with another package but don't actually

jokerdino

where did Marco come from?

ajmitch

it's not really functional because of launchpadlib, if you do a search for something that will return lots of results, it will sit & try & update the model & can't be cancelled

@MarcoCeppi naughty...

Marco Ceppi

Is there a quick way to have those ignored in future apt-get install requests

ajmitch

@MarcoCeppi unlikely, unless you try pinning those specific packages at that version

Marco Ceppi

@ajmitch xbmc-eventclients-wiimote apparently conflicts with xbmc I have no idea why though. Since I'm kind of already half deep installing from someone elses repo I just ignored it

Figured i'm already doing bad things with PPAs, might as well just put the cherry on top

ajmitch

01:28

where are you installing this from?

& I hope you never have to upgrade this system ;)

Marco Ceppi

Some ppa, let me dig it up

and I don't plan on it

once it works I don't think there will ever be a need. Main problem is xbmc team hasn't updated their PPA for 12.04 :\

ajmitch

so you'll never upgrade to 12.10, or maybe 14.04 in the future?

Marco Ceppi

It's a media center pc, I don't really plan on it

Why break something that works?

Maybe I'll upgrade it when Ubuntu TV lands

but that'll probably be a fresh install

Eh, I'll just source the packages and update the Conflicts line, recompile and install

wanders away from chat again

ajmitch

what could possibly go wrong? :)

Marco Ceppi

haha

lazyPower

01:33

@MarcoCeppi cant wait to come see it :P

i'll hijack its remote server with mah droid and force you to watch episodes of metalocalypse

Marco Ceppi

@ajmitch this is the PPA, btw: ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/xbmc-stable

ajmitch

ok

jrg

well that was fun @lazyPower and @RolandTaylor. Thanks for the fun show. :)

lazyPower

Thank jason for the fun show! he did most of the work

Roland Taylor

@lazyPower @jrg @ajmitch thanks for joining :D

We'll get streamline in later hangouts ;)

ajmitch

01:38

however briefly

Roland Taylor

yep

jokerdino

@ajmitch you keep getting into my inbox for those haskell*. WHY?

ajmitch

@jokerdino because your mail is taking weeks to catch up?

lazyPower

@RolandTaylor :) I'll join the next one too

HotrodJP99

@RolandTaylor Hey man can i join the hangout?

jokerdino

01:40

it probably is, but what is haskell?

lazyPower

haskell is a programming language.

Haskell (programming language)

{{Infobox programming language | name = Haskell | logo = | paradigm = functional, lazy/non-strict, modular | year = 1990 | designer = Simon Peyton Jones, Lennart Augustsson, Dave Barton, Brian Boutel, Warren Burton, Joseph Fasel, Kevin Hammond, Ralf Hinze, Paul Hudak, John Hughes, Thomas Johnsson, Mark Jones, John Launchbury, Erik Meijer, John Peterson, Alastair Reid, Colin Runciman, Philip Wadler | developer = | latest release version = Haskell 2010 | latest release date = | latest test version = Haske...

jokerdino

another one?

ajmitch

@jokerdino I just synced a bunch of packages from debian awhile ago

jokerdino

it wasn't a small bunch, i presume

@lazyPower thanks

lazyPower

NP

ajmitch

01:43

@jokerdino are you subscribed to precise-changes for some reason?

jokerdino

yeah

for reasons that my inbox are generally empty

Roland Taylor

back - but only for a minute

@HotrodJP99 next time we have a hangout I'll let you know

HotrodJP99

@RolandTaylor Thx man

ajmitch

@jokerdino strange person :)

jokerdino

:)

lazyPower

01:52

@jrg got it. just logged into box and grabbed an auth token. TY for reminding me to include things >.>

daslinkard

Question for the room....trying to figure out how to go about coming up with a solution...I have a Dell Optiplex GX280 and I cannot get the CD-Rom drive to read

It will power up and run for a few seconds but then stop spinning

Do you think it would be Linux Driver related

or an issue with the CD Rom drive?

jokerdino

02:47

@ajmitch grats on hitting 5k.

someone wants to mess with your answer.. askubuntu.com/questions/34572/…

tachyons

hi

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tachyons

03:16

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tachyons

03:58

aking1012

@daslinkard almost certainly not linux driver related

lazyPower

@daslinkard seems more likely to be eye related on the drive.

tachyons

after installing swarg red theme ucs looks ugly :(

aking1012

@lazyPower or changed the region code on the drive too many times

lazyPower

I had not considered that

does that honestly play a factor in a drive going kaput?

if thats the case, then I know what happened to this gateway tower then :|

aking1012

04:02

it can...some drives will say "no you can't change me again" others will just fail

lazyPower

interesting

Marco Ceppi

Drives are dumb like that

aking1012

@lazyPower my personal best-est solution is a drive that supports a firmware flash for "region free" but it involves finding the right hardware that has a firmware flash available

@MarcoCeppi I could not agree more

lazyPower

that just seems to play into my argument of "Optical media... who uses that anymore?"

aking1012

I agree-ish. I don't have a TV so...optical drive for DVD/Blueray playback. I know, netflix etc

jokerdino

04:10

you both just woke up aye?

lazyPower

@jokerdino nope, haven't made it to bed yet. its just after midnight here.

aking1012

@jokerdino about 45 minutes ago from a nap, but yes it's about midnight here too

jokerdino

i see. it is lunch time here.

but, i will probably take an afternoon nap.

aking1012

@jokerdino I take two naps a day...not real 8 hour sleep

jokerdino

my sleep schedule depends on whether i have lesson on the day or not.

lazyPower

04:14

@MarcoCeppi i watched a live presentation from Jason on G+ about novacut. Holy crap dude

its really coming along. and some awesome innovation using webkit as the UI framework

Marco Ceppi

@lazyPower I've been following that project pretty closely

It's going to be epic when it lands

jokerdino

they are really doing a good job.

lazyPower

Makes 2 of us, only i think i missed some bits.

aking1012

Does anyone have a tested KDE install method that doesn't depend on kubuntu-desktop. I want to test KDE as a target for something without nuking a default-ish install...kind of like gnome-panel instead of re-install with gnome2

tachyons

tachyonsos@tachyons-desktop:~/Downloads$ sudo synaptic
/usr/share/themes/swar-red/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1676: error: unexpected character `(', expected string constant

** (synaptic:10029): WARNING **: Invalid borders specified for theme pixmap:
/usr/share/themes/swar-red/gtk-2.0/Scrollbars/slider-horiz.png,
borders don't fit within the image
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
what(): vector::_M_range_check

how to fix?

cant open synaptic

jokerdino

04:24

@tachyons open universal access, turn on and off screen reader.

aking1012

really hope that works

@tachyons soooo sorry. i use apt-get and synaptic whenever possible as long as it doesn't relate to an answer for a question

jokerdino

@aking1012 kde-plasma-desktop?

aking1012

@jokerdino possibly. I'm shy about anything that isn't tested/ends-in-desktop

tachyons

@jokerdino thanks ,it worked

jokerdino

@aking1012 tough luck then. :?

aking1012

04:27

I don't want to deviate from the normal desktop in most ways, I just want to test menu orientation in both without nuking my "normal install". and yes, probably tough luck

tachyons

@aking1012 what you mean

aking1012

@tachyons like, I've heard horror stories about kubuntu-desktop interop problems or solutions not working, so I'm trying to keep this pretty vanilla but still get kde as a WM option

it's not kde specific, xubuntu-desktop is the same way

jokerdino

i installed kde and xfce and then removed them the following day.

aking1012

YAY eclipse works from software center. updating answer

tachyons

I am using cairo dock session

32 mins ago, by tachyons

after installing swarg red theme ucs looks ugly :(

jokerdino

04:34

Lunch time. :)

aking1012

how to install eclipse on 12.04 answer updated

tachyons

@aking1012 create one ppa for latest version

aking1012

?I don't understand what you mean?

like they did, or something else

tachyons

I mean can you create ppa for latest version of eclise?

aking1012

I'm not trying to jump in the eclipse team's space. I prefer a portable install personally.

George Edison

04:43

@aking1012 Then you're looking for Aptana.

It's based on Eclipse and offers a portable install, IIRC.

tachyons

@aking1012 I am also using portable eclipse

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison Aptana, Eclipse CDT, and the eclipse tarballs are all portable

tachyons

@tachyons The ideal answer will include using the software center but also include an option for a PPA if one exists. – Jorge Castro

aking1012

If you've experienced otherwise lmk, but I've seen the portable/tar.gz stuff work consistently

George Edison

Oh, I didn't realize Eclipse offered portable installs.

aking1012

04:45

The tar.gz is portable

it's in my answer

George Edison

@aking1012 These days I'm really liking Komodo Edit.

(Not portable that I know of but still awesome.)

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison Komodo looks nice, but I'm still a little behind the curve on KDE

tachyons

are there any downsides from installing from the tar.gz and not from the software center? – Decio Lira Mar 7 '11 at 15:41

Yes, there are downsizes: 1 - You lose centralized updates given by apt/Software Center. If all software begins to have buint-in auto-update, we are back to windows world. 2 - Installing in /home folder makes it avaliable only to YOUR user, not to everyone. Installing in /usr or /opt would require root access to install plugins. 3 - You will have to manually create launchers and menu entry. If its not in Ubuntu repos, always go for at least a PPA – MestreLion May 27 '1…

aking1012

@tachyons I agree and I note most of those in the answer. It's a personal preference. I should probably re-arrange so PPA shows up before portable

I even have a "The Preferred Method" that goes against my personal preference

tachyons

@aking1012 for me too , i really hate entralised package management in linux distros , I like windows style software installation

aking1012

04:52

I like the benefits centralized management provides. Windows doesn't provide portable installs. I can't move the folder. With eclipse portable installs, I can. Specify a workspace and done.

tachyons

@aking1012 eclipse for windows is also portable

aking1012

True...that's the java thing. Well structured java/python/ruby are all portable. MSF took it to a whole 'nother level with ruby portability...

portable ruby install including binary extensions and all that

tachyons

yeah

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05:44

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aking1012

Do you guys think I should remove the additional note here: askubuntu.com/questions/119610/… ? It may sound snarky, but it's meant to be informative.

jokerdino

grats on 4k. the note is fine.

aking1012

@jokerdino - thx on grats and looking

@jokerdino - Not to bring up a sore point, but sorry we went back and forth last night. Wherever it came from, I'm glad we're being civil.

jokerdino

06:09

heh

it probably is my fault anyway.

aking1012

I don't want to attribute it to me or you...I just want to get passed it

jokerdino

we have already gone past it, really.

(but I still have the network issues though)

aking1012

;) ^

lazyPower

(i'm in ur internetz, steelin ur packets jokerdino)

3

jokerdino

i have written a little something about why I use Ubuntu - but the Wordpress formatting is annoying..

aking1012

06:11

@lazyPower Is it cool if I star that lazy?

lazyPower

@aking1012 star away my friend

jokerdino

ideally i would have wanted to put in more images, but it is quite unlikely at this moment

aking1012

I'm hoping that's a joke @jokerdino ... Life through a broken etc

jokerdino

Not really, i have a private diary which is not broken.

aking1012

Yay me...is in the number 4 slot in rep league at least temporarily.

jokerdino

06:16

@aking1012 but i was indeed looking for a better sub title

aking1012

ah, is fixed now. it was going 404 for me for a bit

jokerdino

i am trying to clean up the messed up formatting, but wordpress is wonky again.

aking1012

@jokerdino If only Ondina were not in private beta I would say switch to cheap django/rails instead of dealing with wordpress

jokerdino

i can't spend on getting a server.

coz i am still a student you see

aking1012

I understand completely

jokerdino

06:25

well, anyway, me posting the link to the post was to ask for feedback. how is the piece? not too crappy i presume?

it should be getting on the planet pretty soon.

aking1012

It's a decent piece for why you in particular use Ubuntu. I personally use it for superior automatic driver support.

jokerdino

well, we are different. :)

aking1012

Very true

jokerdino

actually, you might be right. i haven't tried anything other than windows or ubuntu.

if i have had tried other distros, ubuntu might come out right.

tachyons

@jokerdino why?

jokerdino

06:32

why what? i just haven't tried.

aking1012

Ubuntu is much more automatic than say...Debian...on drivers 'just working'.
I don't expect it on something like Arch or Gentoo.
And FreeBSD driver support is for some features painful, although the linux abstraction layer helps a LOT.

jokerdino

now i wonder if i really have to try other distro's

tachyons

it@school debian was my first llinux distro ,because it was the part of school syllabus

@jokerdino yes have to try

aking1012

Yes...an LFS box forces you to understand where some thinks go and why.

tachyons

ubuntu is the simplest linux distro (linux for human beings )

aking1012

06:37

@tachyons Not saying migrate at all, just saying understand the differences. And I lolled hard at for human beings...

tachyons

I think it is bad quote because it insulting other linux distros

aking1012

@tachyons I don't think it's insulting. I understand the point they're trying to make. You have NO idea how many people messaged me on some social network wanting help compiling FreeBSD ports and complained about how long it takes to compile most of a distro from source.

tachyons

distro from source omg

jokerdino

i am not going to try FreeBSD. not until they are going mainstream.

tachyons

last week i installed qt library from source ,even it took 1.5 hours

jokerdino

06:42

I am going to stick with Ubuntu.

aking1012

@jokerdino It is as mainstream as it's getting. They have a very specific purpose. <--Just what I think.

tachyons

@jokerdino why not other linux redhat ,opensuse etc?

jokerdino

I might put them inside a virtual box.

but i so need a stable connection to download the ISO. :"(

aking1012

@tachyons Suse is dead AFAIK, Novel went Windows apps instead of a distro. My issue with Redhat is the a)difference in package managers between open/closed(up2date vs yum) and b)CentOS lags so hard in packages

tachyons

I didn't tried it yet

aking1012

06:47

I tried Fedora, but...well I've said all this already somewhere

tachyons

I tried debian fedora redhat dreamlinx and various ubuntu derivatives

but but still stick with ubuntu

aking1012

@tachyons My current project is getting most backtrack packages to conform to Ubuntu rules enough to be in PPAs. I'm starting with a completely unofficial repo and working from there

tachyons

Microsoft has a majority market share

Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix. Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. Steps to repeat: 1. Visit a local PC store. What happens: 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed. 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed. What should happen: 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu. 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all. 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.

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aking1012

feature request...all apps should select ~/ as the default save directory...period

@tachyons That sir, is epic to the maximum point of epicness

shame I can only star it once

jokerdino

That is the #1 bug that Ubuntu is made for.

But I think Apple is helping us in solving it though.

tachyons

06:56

@aking1012 lol look here chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/201/ask-ubuntu-general-room/…

@jokerdino it is another bug

jokerdino

that will be bug #1000000 i guess

aking1012

It should move to bug #2 and push all the other bugs back by one due to its critical nature

Or simply replace bug #1 when the original is resolved

tachyons

bug fix :sudo apt-get remove windows

aking1012

@tachyons I only keep it around for gaming and exploit dev. When I get a console and a dedicated hackme box, I may remove it completely

tachyons

07:15

@aking1012 i am not interested in games but i instsalled windws because it is free of cost :D

aking1012

@tachyons I had to have it for school, then I kept it around for steam games(cheaper than console games). When I'm making the big bucks, I'll make a pwnme box and remove it.

Bruno Pereira

@MarcoCeppi Why not the xbmc official PPA? or even the XBMC's own Ubuntu release?

tachyons

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Q: Design Ideas for the final site

Hi everyone, At the beginning of the beta I linked up Mat Tomaszewski from the Canonical Design Team to work with Jin Yang from SO on the design for the final site. I am posting the design here on his behalf since he doesn't have the rep (yet!) Home page: Question Page Error Page (a litt...

discussion design

tachyons

07:49

@BrunoPereira noobslab.com/2011/12/install-xbmc-on-ubuntu-1204-precise.html

aking1012

08:04

hi guys, welcome back

aking1012

08:47

later guys

jokerdino

see ya @aking1012

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09:20

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(using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a netbook prior to any updates) The wireless works fine, the wired connection has been tested using a Windows computer. Choosing auto eth0 from the power manager fails. Using Wicd network manager - pressing connect to Wired Nework - 'connecting' Wired network: Obtai...

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htorque

uhm, i certainly didn't win a swag - i didn't do anything during cleanup week

or at least i want proof

cleanup.thepcspy.com/leaderboard/2

that's the event - i'm not in there ;-)

@BrunoPereira ↑↑

tachyons

htorque

→ all-time

tachyons

@htorque yeah

htorque

oh, the swag is for all-time contributions

but then:

> I wanted to congratulate you on being one of the winners of the first Ask Ubuntu swag give away. As you probably know we are giving away a 10x Ask Ubuntu swag pack to the 10 top users that contributed to the site's clean up since it started officially.

which i'm not...

Amith KK

09:33

I'm sick

hello all

tachyons

@htorque quote from where?

@AmithKK hi

htorque

private mail from @BrunoPereira

tachyons

@htorque you contacted BrunoPereira for getting swag :D

htorque

this was a bold tag

tachyons

@htorque what :s

htorque

09:38

i'm getting abused by a moderator - again! :P

Bruno Pereira

@htorque just go with the flow, @jrg got me the emails, I sent the form, if someone complains I'll pay a swag pack from my pocket. Till then enjoy your prize.

htorque

no. can't enjoy what i didn't earn.

tachyons

@BrunoPereira I have some complaints :p

Bruno Pereira

@htorque for the bunny love, you did, the scores were taken 2 weeks ago, dont look at it now. 2 weeks ago you were the 11th, Jorge said to pass it to you (he was 5 or 6 or whatever). So we did and you have a prize waiting for you!

tachyons

10 mins ago, by htorque

oh, the swag is for all-time contributions

????

Bruno Pereira

09:43

You sound like the guy complaining that he had to pay taxes when Oprah offered cars to the all audience on her show! ^^

@tachyons Again, I will say it really s-l-o-w: ssssscooooooressss wereeee takeeeeeen 2 weeeeeeeeeks agoooooooo.

Mark Rooney

@BrunoPereira appreciate all the work you and the mods put in

Bruno Pereira

1,5 weeks to be more precise, when this was announced: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2853/swag-for-the-cleanup-team

@htorque I was just lazy enough to drag it for this long.

tachyons

@BrunoPereira mean?

jokerdino

what is wrong with you guys?

Mark Rooney

next they'll ask if they have to pay postage...

tachyons

09:50

@jokerdino nothing, just for fun

jokerdino

I haven't gotten any wholesome rep for quite some time. Sigh.

Users, please ask easy questions.

Mark Rooney

they will come when 12.04 is released

htorque

@BrunoPereira right, i was 11 webcache.googleusercontent.com/…

8 Mar 2012 13:21:12 GMT.

Bruno Pereira

@htorque see? Now fill that thing up and get your prize ;)

jokerdino

@htorque grats on the swag.

htorque

09:53

but i was 11!

dammit!

:D

jokerdino

@MarkRooney i am hoping they really do.

htorque

is this the same shirt maker as for the first swag?

jokerdino

@htorque You don't like shirts made in Bangladesh? :O

Hamster reports that I have spent 40 hours of the last week on Ask Ubuntu.

htorque

sure, those kids do awesome sewing with their small hands

:-/

tachyons

I hope I will get 12.04 cd as price If I am eligible , my bandwidth is not enough to download 700mb file

htorque

09:56

@BrunoPereira oh noes, so there's no black shirt?

Bruno Pereira

@htorque Its a Ask Ubuntu one, only white available :/

htorque

"come on oprah, i don't want another white car!" :D

tachyons

@htorque buy black paint

htorque

@BrunoPereira just a quick question: who has access to the data?

Mark Rooney

i hear tie-dye is all the rage @htorque

htorque

09:58

besides google, who already knows everything about me

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