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TheWanderer

00:08

hmm

the premise of The Flash is a little unbelievable

the G-Force of taking people along with him would kill people

jrg

Sorry to butt in, but does anyone have suggestions for open source software logos that college students are likely to recognize?

these aren't compsci/technical students

already have chrome, firefox, vlc, wordpress

TheWanderer

why

jrg

since those are things that several compsci students I know spread the gospel of in the dorms

it's for a presentation i'm giving on open source software

need a slide with logos of projects they'll recognize

Nathan Osman

@Seth I don't even remember now lol.

@jrg Chrome isn't technically open-source itself :P

jrg

there's one person in the crowd who will try to correct me

he's the reason i'm not putting an OpenBSD logo up there

Nathan Osman

00:13

Lol.

Seth

talk about know your crowd lol

nice ;)

Nathan Osman

Well, lemme try to think here.

Seth

@NathanOsman well I can't find one in the snap store for 16.04

Videonauth

@jrg blender, obs studio, gimp, audacity

jrg

(he's the reason I'm speaking, he got his professor to invite me)

Seth

00:13

@jrg audacity maybe? Also GIMP

Eliah Kagan

Chromium is open source. Its logo is different, but similar enough to Chrome's that it is likely to be recognized. If you want to include only logos of open-source software, I suggest using the Chromium logo rather than Chrome's.

Nathan Osman

7-Zip, Handbrake, Audacity, LibreOffice, ...

Thunderbird maybe.

jrg

@jrgifford @SwiftOnSecurity Ramen noodles

Tweeted by perspectivator on November 30, 2017 at 12:14 AM in reply to jrgifford

oh shit

swift retweeted me

son of gun

WELLL

Videonauth

yep thunderbird and firefox

jrg

there goes my mentions for the next few hours

Nathan Osman

00:15

I dunno - I gotta remember that I'm not the typical user of open source software.

@jrg Lol, congrats.

jrg

ah yes, a debian developer replied

@jrgifford android, chrome, firefox, vlc, wikipedia, wordpress

Tweeted by paultag on November 30, 2017 at 12:14 AM in reply to jrgifford

Eliah Kagan

Although Ubuntu has some optional, non-free components, I think it's reasonable to consider Ubuntu to be an open-source project and to include its logo. I don't know if you're looking only for logos that have near-total recognition by Windows users, but if not, the Ubuntu logo is pretty widely recognized.

jrg

guess i'll do android and wikipedia

Seth

@jrg quick! get him to the safehouse! He's famous now

Nathan Osman

Also, Java is probably the one programming language that an ordinary user would recognize.

Videonauth

00:16

@jrg git, codebocks, python

jrg

@Videonauth only 1 tech person in the audience

i've been told that they're totally ignorant of tech, so git and python are definitely off the list

Nathan Osman

Everyone has Java though.

It sits there in the tray :P

Videonauth

@NathanOsman Java is not exactly open source

Nathan Osman

Sort of.

Videonauth

especially oracle java

jrg

00:18

it's close

Nathan Osman

Oracle, yes.

OpenJDK, no.

Eliah Kagan

OpenJDK has official status though, right?

Did anybody mention Linux? The kernel, I mean. Its logo, Tux, is somewhat widely recognized.

Nathan Osman

Not sure.

Eliah Kagan

Sorry, Tux is a mascot, I don't know if it is officially a logo of the project or not.

jrg

close enough

Eliah Kagan

00:19

Still I think you could reasonably use it for this.

Yeah.

Nathan Osman

Yeah, Tux you could probably get away with.

jrg

@jrgifford Avocado Toast?

Tweeted by kriox on November 30, 2017 at 12:14 AM in reply to jrgifford

k

seems legit

Seth

I totally want to start an OSS project called Avocado Toast now

Videonauth

i dont envy you right now swift has a broad audience and the most of em are weirdos :)

Nathan Osman

FileZilla?

TheWanderer

00:20

whoaaaa

Nathan Osman

I know people in the manufacturing industry using it.

TheWanderer

Mark Hamill is in The Flash

Nathan Osman

Calibre?

jrg

@Videonauth OMG YES SO WEIRD

Videonauth

apache server

Seth

00:21

@TheWanderer yes

Eliah Kagan

Yeah, FileZilla is a good one.

Pidgin? Transmission?

Videonauth

calibre, evince

Nathan Osman

Actually forget Calibre - it doesn't have a recognizable logo.

TheWanderer

I guess they're spending all their money on music and stars instead of effects

jrg

Well

it got me exposure

about 6 thousand exposures

Nathan Osman

00:23

NitroShare :D :D :D

Eliah Kagan

:)

jrg

@NathanOsman there's actually one person who would recognize it

Nathan Osman

Hey, it is open source.

Oh?

jrg

i'm giving it at ETSRs school

Eliah Kagan

Not sure if it serves your needs here... but the Wine logo is distinctive.

jrg

00:24

esnowrackley, Cleveland Heights, OH, United States

466 1 10 33

this guy

Nathan Osman

:thumbsup:

jrg

SLACKER

Nathan Osman

Lol, yes.

I need to modify my UserScript so that we can have those here.

jrg

ughhh

someone said i should put the most popular adult content logo on the slide just cuz

Videonauth

@jrg so p*** h**? i doubt that this is open source ;)

jrg

00:26

i wasn't gonna say it, i know we have people who view this chatroom @ work

but yes

Terrance

taking notes for later ;)

jrg

people keep suggesting blender and thunderbird

TheWanderer

THE HUB OF PORN

jrg

guess i should add those

Seth

blender is good

Videonauth

00:27

blender is a parade example of open source and cross platform

works on linux, mac, windows and of course on dead badgers

TheWanderer

dead badgers?

what happened to toasters?

jrg

ok, i'm going to call it a day

that slide is already super busy

Seth

is teamspeak open source?

jrg

sadly not

Videonauth

@TheWanderer strangehorizons.com/non-fiction/articles/…

jrg

00:28

i have it on good authority that the campus has been struck by discord fever

Seth

@jrg I do suggest following @EliahKagan's suggestion of using chromium vs chrome

TheWanderer

what's the orange one next to Chrome?

Terrance

I actually recognize all those! Yay me! ;)

Seth

@TheWanderer blender

TheWanderer

oh duh

WP is OSS?

jrg

00:29

yup

has been since the beginning

TheWanderer

huh

does Java count? :p

Videonauth

WordPress

WordPress is a free and open-source content management system (CMS) based on PHP and MySQL. To function, WordPress has to be installed on a web server, which would either be part of an Internet hosting service or a network host in its own right. An example of the first scenario may be a service like WordPress.com, for example, and the second case could be a computer running the software package WordPress.org. A local computer may be used for single-user testing and learning purposes. Features include a plugin architecture and a template system. WordPress was used by more than 27.5% of the top 10...

jrg

I'm not doing Java

fine since everyone on twitter is ragging on me

i'll change the darn chrome logo

ya'll are pedantic freaks ;)

4

TheWanderer

CHANGE IT

@jrg duhh

Videonauth

@jrg an proud of it :P

jrg

00:32

TBH i'm surprised that message doesn't have like, 10 stars already

don't, i probably shouldn't have used the word "freak"

TheWanderer

ban urself

jrg

I don't think we can

seth

can you ban me?

Seth

yes

jrg

really?

TheWanderer

lol

jrg

00:33

does it like... do anything?

TheWanderer

you can just rejoin though

because you're a mod

Seth

but it involves removing the systems in place to prevent it :P

jrg

oh yeah

Seth

I'm pretty sure you could just undo it

Videonauth

well i highly doubt anyone here will flag this, this is by far the most relaxed chat on the whole SE network i have been in yet

jrg

00:35

yeah we're pretty relaxed but our few rules are very... rule-ish.

TheWanderer

HOW DARE YOU SIR @VIDEONAUTH

Seth

either way, I only suggested changing the chrome logo to avoid the pedantic freaks in your audience.

Not that I'm not a pedantic freak, mind you :P

jrg

uh-huh

TheWanderer

orly

jrg

i see

yup

TheWanderer

00:37

#

Seth

you yourself said you'd have to deal with at least one :P

jrg

I really need to work on my meme organization tool again

that took me a full 45 seconds to find

Seth

mine's just a google doc

jrg

used to take 15

Oh I custom built a webapp

Seth

@jrg I want

jrg

00:38

cost a fortune to run since it did OCR of my memes so i could search text (gifs I had to type in the captions by hand)

Seth

oooh

that's smart

Nathan Osman

That is remarkably impressive.

Seth

I wish I had thought of that

jrg

it ran locally and synced the images to an s3 bucket

Nathan Osman

I just have short URLs set up for imgflip :P

jrg

00:38

but it's been broken for a few months and i'm too busy to fix it...

Seth

slinks back to his google doc pinned in the bookmarks bar like an amateur

jrg

seth

don't be ashamed

i once was like you

and then i realized that i could have GIGABYTES OF MEMES

so now my Meme folder in dropbox weighs in at 1.18GB

i'm in a race to 2GB with a former coworker

the rules are they have to be high quality meme content

no duplicates in our respective collections

Seth

want me to share the doc with you? I bet it has some you don't have

@jrg oh ouch

how do you check that?

jrg

I have SO MANY giphy (number) copy.gif filenames

by hand

Seth

o_O

jrg

00:43

Hands down the pride of my collection

I hand wrote that meme

Seth

HAHAHA

Terrance

LOL

Seth

when you pause a game to chat, then accidentally end it without saving when you come back...

jrg

This has so many practical uses

just as a gif in general

like "BAM, I did this" or "BAM, you got owned" or "BAM, that happened" or "YEAH!"

Seth

@jrg do you have this one yet?

jrg

00:44

no

Seth

not tech related, but so good.

jrg

how do i not have that

that is beautiful

TheWanderer

@Seth I love that one

jrg

it's like the matrix

TheWanderer

it's just so well done

jrg

00:45

but with SINGINGGGG

Seth

@jrg HA! so like the matrix.

TheWanderer

"The HILLS are aliiivve with the sound of GUNFIRE"

jrg

I try not to use this one too often

Seth

so relatable

jrg

it's got a use of about ~3 times a year

@TheWanderer if you want to hear that, my buddies house during hunting season is that alllll day

Nathan Osman

00:46

My phone is waaaaaay worse.

TheWanderer

lel

Seth

either I can't spell, or my spellcheck is drunk. isn't relatable a word?

TheWanderer

yes

Nathan Osman

I have hundreds of memes on my phone.

jrg

he's at the end of a valley and he hears EVERYTHING

Nathan Osman

00:47

And it takes minutes to look through them all.

Seth

@NathanOsman People know me as the guy with all the memes on his phone.

Speaking of which..

Nathan Osman

And Facebook's Android app doesn't even let you browse by folder. >:(

TheWanderer

oh dear

Seth

I hope I set Google to auto backup those meme folders D:

Nathan Osman

USB?

Seth

00:47

plz no pepe

jrg

4

Yeah no pepe

TheWanderer

lol

pepe is out?

why tho

jrg

has been

nazis

TheWanderer

you know that was 4chan being 4chan right?

Seth

yes

jrg

00:48

rephrase that as nazis being nazis and you're right

it just so happens that venn diagram is pretty darn close to a circle

Seth

I like this one. An old favorite with a newer twist

TheWanderer

jrg

AH

Seth

it fits his personality so well in the show xD

jrg

that's a good one @Seth

Seth

00:50

I forgot I had some of these

TheWanderer

anyone recognize this guy?

Seth

you lose them without continuous use

TheWanderer

like language

Seth

exactly

jrg

k signing off for a bit

Videonauth

00:51

Seth

@jrg laterz

TheWanderer

memes == language confirmed

Seth

@Videonauth lol

jrg

i've still got ~50 slides to make before 4AM tomorrow when i start driving to the lecture

TheWanderer

wat

jrg

00:51

yeah yeah i know plan ahead blah blah don't procrastinate

Seth

@jrg no no, you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to finish it in the lecture before yours

unless yours is the first.. then you're just stuck

Nathan Osman

Yeah :P

jrg

@Seth lol I'm the first one of the day

Seth

@jrg I'm sorry xD

Nathan Osman

Then finish during breakfast.

Seth

00:52

"Alexa, dictate" in the car

(is that a thing?)

jrg

it's 8PM now > sleep by 10 > wake up at 4 > drive 4 hours to the lecture > hope I have an hour breather to go over them in a nervous panic > BAM > lunch

Seth

I KNOW

TheWanderer

@Seth Android Auto could let you use Assistant

Seth

During autopilot >:)

TheWanderer

"OK Google, write a note"

jrg

00:53

Sadly my tesla owning friend is not on good terms with me these days

TheWanderer

wat

jrg

otherwise i'd totalllly ask to borrow it

Seth

@jrg is that because you stole their tesla?

Nathan Osman

jrg

@Seth I wish.

I said one of his startup investments was "stupid, uninformed and going to go out of business within the year"

4 months later i was proven right and i think he's hurt :P

Seth

00:54

I hate friends that can't handle the truth

Nathan Osman

This one is for @TheWanderer:

TheWanderer

@jrg a little harsh

Seth

I also hate that English has taken words like love and hate and destroyed their meanings.

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman that's PhotoShopped

Nathan Osman

Lol?

jrg

00:55

eh. more of a slightly-deeper-than-acquaintance relationship

@TheWanderer doesn't matter, still funny

TheWanderer

yis

Videonauth

can one of the mods open a chat with a low rep user for me --> askubuntu.com/q/981523 the comments there get ridiculously long

jrg

i think i've got that, i will bookmark and come back to it

TheWanderer

Ctrl+D!!!!!

Seth

done @Videonauth

I really need to put more thermal paste on my CPU

and maybe clean out the heatsink

Videonauth

00:57

@Seth thank you very much

TheWanderer

so my V20 seems to be failing

Seth

@TheWanderer big surprise

TheWanderer

and someone at XDA offered to send me a Nexus 6 in January

who was given to them by another employee of XDA

it's like the XDA Phone :D

Seth

@TheWanderer (non sarcastic) big surprise

nice

TheWanderer

it also supports RAW capture, so that's nice

hopefully my NAND or whatever doesn't give out before then

Videonauth

00:59

TheWanderer

lol

waxed floors

lol

OK, CW, that's a good move

Videonauth

01:30

anyone of you guys familiar with encrypted drives?

how to mount an encrypted drive from an USB stick?

Eliah Kagan

01:42

@Videonauth It's a LUKS container?

10

Q: Mounting encrypted LUKS partition from Live CD

Error to begin with, can't boot I had to do a hard reboot of my computer, and when booting up it (initramfs I think) gave an error: mount: mounting /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root on /root failed: Invalid argument mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory mount: mounting /...

boot filesystem lvm initramfs luks

It's been a long time since I've done this but I apparently upvoted the top voted answer there so hopefully I did so because it's correct and will work! :)

Videonauth

yes we are in that room chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/69471/…

Eliah Kagan

We also have this:

54

Q: Mount encrypted volumes from command line?

If I have an encrypted external disk (or an internal disk that is not in fstab), I see an entry for it in Nautilus -- with an entry like "X GB Encrypted Volume". I can click on this volume, and am prompted for a password to decrypt and mount the device. But how do I do this from the command lin...

command-line mount encryption

@Videonauth Wait, the USB drive itself, with the exFAT filesystem, is what's encrypted? If so, that wouldn't likely be in a LUKS container and neither of those questions would help.

Oh, never mind. I just saw the screenshot in the other room. I'll move there.

Videonauth

nah he has an old HP laptop which has 11.10 on it and this is encrypted, the stick is a simple USB live of 16.04 and he just successfully mounted his exfat drive where he want to copy to

jrg

02:29

OK got my slides done....

Every time I see @SwiftOnSecurity RT someone I think "wow, lucky" and then it happens to me and the reaction is 100% "AHG NO MY PHONE NOTIFICATIONS AHGGG"

Tweeted by jrgifford on November 30, 2017 at 1:22 AM

that got RTed by swift too.

i should never spend ad money on twitter again

and just figure out how to get swift to RT whatever i'm selling

my phone is still buzzing

Videonauth

lol

TheWanderer

02:50

Netflix wat

[Poignant Music]

RobotHumans

03:27

arg, they added a strict RFC json filter and it's breaking all the requests library usage i'm using... evidently I need some of that duct tape.

Videonauth

you know where the word "patch" came from in computer terms?

RobotHumans

it just irks me that the requests library doesn't ensure RFC compliant JSON.

RobotHumans

03:43

fixed it. i just had to use a different pattern.

request(uri, formData, method, (err, resp)) pattern wasn't working, so i tried
request.post(options), and somehow it generated different json...

Nathan Osman

Jar Jar Binks to return to the Star Wars franchise in Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Lucasfilm has revealed. https://bit.ly/IqT6zt

Tweeted by VarietyFiIm on November 28, 2017 at 2:18 AM

2

What the heck.

RobotHumans

Nice one @NathanOsman

Nathan Osman

:D

I thought it was pretty clever.

RobotHumans

I use this one every year during shark week:

Man gets too close to a great white shark and it attacks him

►

Videonauth

@NathanOsman Nice i actually like the this character in star wars

Nathan Osman

04:13

Click the link.

Hides behind a rock.

Videonauth

@NathanOsman well that joke doesnt work on germans :P

Nathan Osman

No?

Oh, it's blocked in your country?

Videonauth

Nathan Osman

Heh.

Videonauth

i could use proxytube but ok not going to after seeing the title ;)

Seth

04:21

@RobotHumans %*&#$$YD

you win xD

RobotHumans

Thank you thank you. I'm here all week. You should try the veal.

Videonauth

04:54

I'm dying and crying a little inside

Nathan Osman

05:32

Let's see how long it takes to build Brave on my PC

Nathan Osman

05:50

Nope. Build fails.

Videonauth

Nathan Osman

:D

Seth

I swear the site is trolling me hardcore. Literally every. single. year. I get a gold badge ~1 month before winter bash. 3 years in a row.

Just got one for this question askubuntu.com/questions/406166/…

but during winter bash.. nope. DENIED.

Videonauth

:D

be lucky that you came onto the site as there have been actually still plenty ofanswers to give now were left with only questions like "halp wifi is not working" or "halp i screwed up and dont know hot fo fix it"

or such ones where you spend actually about 6 hours for finding an answer for it and it wil not pay out :askubuntu.com/questions/981263/…

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

07:25

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dessert

08:55

@Videonauth This seems like something you should have done before even beginning this conversation:

in Discussion on question by Andrew Halve: How to mount an exFAT external hardrive? Using ubuntu 11.10, 4 hours ago, by Videonauth

brb getting me something to drink

Videonauth

@dessert all drinks didnt help i was near screaming at my screen here ;)

dessert

@Videonauth Next time just advise him how he can give you ssh access and do the stuff yourself. ;D

Videonauth

bonus points if you have read through the hole stack of messages

yes i thought about that lol

would have been done in 1/10th of the time

if even so much would have been needed

@dessert well, if that wouldnt take another 10 hours lol

just to enable SSH

dessert

@Videonauth I'm not the masochist type of person.

Videonauth

:P

well im out now for a few hours, having some appointments

dessert

09:02

@Videonauth Farewell!

I thought about posting a question titled “kali doesn't work, y don't u make it easier” on U&L just to see terdons “Script-kiddie Kali” comment.

Byte Commander

09:18

there already is one...

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RobotHumans

13:58

@ByteCommander - great meta answer about that question:

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dessert

15:52

@RobotHumans btw, why don't we have a meta-meta?

Life goal #29 is to get enough of them rejected that I can publish a comparative analysis of the rejection letters.

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