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@Brandon I don't really have much experience with it but I have used it before.... what's the issue?
@AndroidDev Some backstory: My machine froze up forcing me to hard reset. Somehow that corrupted my file system so I'm trying to restore it with GParted and TestDisk.... I'm at the screen in TestDisk where I can choose Left/Right arrows to choose P or D on partitions (or add a partition etc...) and I just don't know what the P/D is going to do
@Brandon 1st things 1st - do you have a recent backup in case testdisk screws up your disk?
The default on the partition I want is 'D'. I do have one in there (not the one I care about) that's set to P but I just don't know if I need to set it to P to move on.
Nope
If it bones my disk I'm not in any worse position than I am now
Im running out of the boot repair OS as it is.
00:05
do you have important data on it?
Oh yeah
Of course
I have no way of accessing the files
@Brandon well then I suggest you use dd to image your internal HDD to an external one and then attempt recovery on the external, leaving the internal untouched
that way even if you wreck the clone you can always re-image it
This is where I continue wishing I had an external drive
No external drive and no backups? Bad practice. Very bad practice
If this thing destroys my disk is it a simple format and reinstall Ubuntu? If I lose the data I lose the data...
It's a personal laptop with 3 important files on it...
00:08
@Brandon ok so I'm not quite understanding what testdisk is asking you?
Here I'll paste what I can of the prompt
The selected one is the corrupted partition. It looks to me like it knows it's ext4...
@Brandon well there isn't any harm in having it the files is there?
I gtg unfortunately
If I can recover the files I'd like to
I just don't know what that is telling me that P/D thing
@Brandon it's asking you whether you want to keep the partition marked as "deleted" or if you want to make the partition primary and available again
it's also asking you what you want to do with selected partitions
So by keeping them as 'D' (all my other partitions) it's just going to wipe the disk?
00:13
probably not at the hardware level, unless it's an SSD - if the partition reference is removed it just means the files remain on disk but the partition reference and all file references in the partition are gone.
so...
I'm just not sure why 'D' is default for every partition
well i'm late to the conversation
You didn't miss all that much
so i'd have to look backwards but mobile chat here sucks
Oh, yeah mobile is tough... can you see this? pastebin.com/raw/tiQDhRRv
00:14
yes actually. but mobile chat sucks
i'm already looking at that
not sure why it's all marked as "D"
Oh okay...Well the one that's selected is the one I want to recover. Every other partition is a windows or windows recovery partition
i'd try and set the type back to 'Primary'
but it could delete your data if it doesn't work
that's the reason we take disk images :P
Yeah I understand... I just wish I knew what the options did
well TBH...
... I use much more in-depth forensic tools to dig into hard disks when I break partitions or such
and we're talking expensive
not cheap
software
Sure... I mean, the files I'm missing are worth like 400 dollars. If I lose them it's all good I'd just rather not
So if it's "Spend 5 thousand dollars to save 400", I'm out haha
00:20
$6k for the one, $2.5k for the other, $99.95 for the third.
:)
'course, I usually start by looking at a disk with this utility... disk-editor.org
but as i've done some forensics work I usually am looking at byte-levels so...
it's not as useful for basic recovery.
Yeha I just want to beat ubuntu into submission and tell it "Yes, that's where the files are. Right there. That giant ext4 partition."
00:38
wow
thomas actually pays for software
instead of just using dd and xxd
@KazWolfe I didn't pay a dime
@KazWolfe ... my workplace did >:D
@KazWolfe that said, that software is mostly for disk examination and data carving and evidence gathering and such for forensics
I still use dd for taking disk images.
00:53
@ThomasWard which is why we're making Chat Exchange.... but the project is dormant atm
that part isn't my problem ;)
well Zach and I are both really busy right now
and also it would be good if we re-did it from scratch before we go any further
now that we know how we want to do things
it got messy because we kept changing things at light speed
Development 101: actually have a plan :P
well yeah that's the thing though
@ThomasWard wait, plain dd and not a forensics specialised one?
00:57
@JourneymanGeek for pure disk images? Yes.
we couldn't really plan it out since we didn't know how to do all the stuff we wanted to do
@Brandon there used to be a free (and still cheap) professional forensics tool out there - we used prodiscover free, now that's changed to "prodiscover basic" I think
@ThomasWard sucks how?
@JourneymanGeek it just sucks :P
There used to be a 'better' chat front end (by friedley) that worked like an app, but just reskinned chat
broke with new mobile chat tho
@JourneymanGeek I don't suppose you have any experience with Android development and would want to join the Chat Exchange project with me Zach and Nathan?
01:02
nope, not a coder
oh yeah.
i'm starting my android dev career! :D
oh no
comptetition
i still do backend things though
@AndroidDev the most I can do is go "manishearth's python client has a decent API reference" or such.
an armchair coder
naw, I have a very good memory.
askubuntu.com/a/958996/208574 Does this seem like borderline spam to anyone else? (cc @JourneymanGeek and/or @ThomasWard)
found in review
@KazWolfe borderline spam? Yes. NAA, yes. Clear and blatant spam, no. (Deleted because NAA)
alright, thanks
didn't know how to handle that
I didn't even see that ;p
(damn, need to get around to grinding my 10k here ;p
01:11
oh yes. you're not a moderator here.
i keep forgetting that
sorry ;-;
lol nor am I that likely to be. ;p
here you go
@JourneymanGeek scrub
@ThomasWard weird thing is that user has a decent amount of network rep
i'd think they'd know better
unless it's a hacked account
last Ask Ubuntu activity was 2012 before this
01:25
whoa they must be Dr Who
@TheWanderer eh, I've not really enough activity on AU main
ahem
scrub
02:26
ah, i love those "it's not working" questions
where that's literally all we get.
@KazWolfe got an example?
such things are prime targets for the Shotgun of Closing
@ThomasWard already voted
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Q: wifi not connecting in acer travelmate p249 in ubuntu

sree jithI am having issues using WiFi. I have a acer travelmate p249 running Ubuntu 14.04. The adapter is a Qualcomm Athreos qca9377

needs one more anyways
hammer of the gods has spoken.
so...your shotgun is powerless here
nah, you were just the fifth user ^-^
fifth user, but with a mod hammer
02:32
but the mod hammer part is irrelevant. isn't it?
askubuntu.com/review/close/757803 WARNING: Salt detected!
@KazWolfe nope, the diamond means "Yeah this stays dead"
most people don't question the mod rulings when the community also agrees ;)
yawns
woah what
what did i do
also i need advice from you
02:47
on what lol
but you're offline on discord
the hardest topic known to man
@ThomasWard no. the one harder than that, even
there is none harder than that.
discord.
discord is not hard :p
@ThomasWard you wish.
02:56
@JourneymanGeek They don't question me yet. And usually if they do I have a decent explanation for activity that makes it hard to refute :)
... unless I'm drunk
in which case I'm usually busy with something else, not modding Ask Ubuntu
 
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@EliahKagan Thanks for the additional explanation; I was aware all code here was CC-BY-SA, but never thought about the implications, so i'm happy I've always that what I'm doing and that is add the GPL (on anything more complex then a single-line command)
 
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Anybody know the blacklisting site webiron.net?
 
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10:05
eh (s)he probably means this daltonprogram.orgRinzwind 1 hour ago
@Rinzwind ??
@KazWolfe Ah, I didn't even notice these were your chicken... Nice.
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LeederI have a Windows 7 PC with Forefront TMG proxy. There is a VirtualBox virtual machine installed with Ubuntu 16.04 (64-bit) guest OS. I'm not a seasoned Unix-user, so I tried to configure Ubuntu's network through GUI window. After several tries I wound up with these settings: All works fine now...

10:34
@terdon hmm?
got any other reference to dalton? >:)
I am on -12 rep :((((
someone found a serial voter _O-
The unified atomic mass unit or dalton (symbol: u, or Da) is a standard unit of mass that quantifies mass on an atomic or molecular scale (atomic mass). One unified atomic mass unit is approximately the mass of one nucleon (either a single proton or neutron) and is numerically equivalent to 1 g/mol. It is defined as one twelfth of the mass of an unbound neutral atom of carbon-12 in its nuclear and electronic ground state and at rest, and has a value of 1.660539040(20)×10−27 kg, or approximately 1.66 yoctograms. The CIPM has categorised it as a non-SI unit accepted for use with the SI, and whose...
so basically he ask: how to divide by 1000
The OP's edits, showing input and desired output, also clarify that the unit of measure was the intended meaning.
@Rinzwind Yes.
I really doubt nobody asked that before :+)
oh and perl smells :=) @terdon
We may have something for it, but it's not obvious to me that we would. The values have different precisions and the OP's example shows that each output value should have the same number of precision (in terms of number of figures) as the input value. Some of the answers don't achieve that, and others (including mine and terdon's) show both methods that do that and methods that give the same precision to each result, since that's often what people want.
It is also--pardon the pun--significant that the denominator is a power of 10, as otherwise just keeping extra nonzero trailing digits (so long as they appear in the fractional portion) would not be correct as it would often give way more figures than the OP started out with, which is rarely what people want. (It is also significant since a text processing solution of moving the decimal point would be sufficient, though it would be necessary to handle the case where no . appears.)
* should have the same number of precision
11:11
Why do people keep voting to close askubuntu.com/q/959193/367990 as dupe of questions which ask how to read QR codes although it is about creating them?
Reopen please.
@ByteCommander but one of the dupes is correct
Already voted to reopen. I don't know why there's so much confusion surrounding it, but the questions it's been duped to are one about reading QR codes and one about creating bar codes so it should definitely be reopened.
@TheWanderer Which?
^ as Eliah said.
the one that says "how to create a QR code on Ubuntu GUI"
@TheWanderer Are you sure? QR codes are not bar codes. Some software may do both but most doesn't, and the duplication would then only be correct if the bar code creation question were radically broadened.
11:19
oh I see
> This question already has an answer here:

Software to read a QR code? 7 answers
How to create barcode in Ubuntu via a GUI? 4 answers
Oli
Oli
The both answers to the barcode one do also cover QR codes.
however, Zint can create QR codes
so it's still a dupe of that
I think we have established general consent that if some or most answers also solve another question, that doesn't mean it's a dupe if the question is not asking about the same thing.
technically, a QR code is a barcode though
at least Wikipedia calls it a "matrix barcode"
QR code (abbreviated from Quick Response Code) is the trademark for a type of matrix barcode (or two-dimensional barcode) first designed for the automotive industry in Japan. A barcode is a machine-readable optical label that contains information about the item to which it is attached. A QR code uses four standardized encoding modes (numeric, alphanumeric, byte/binary, and kanji) to efficiently store data; extensions may also be used. The QR code system became popular outside the automotive industry due to its fast readability and greater storage capacity compared to standard UPC barcodes. ...
11:22
This just got reported in CharcoalHQ as potential spam. Is it? askubuntu.com/a/959212/367990
That's not really the meaning of "barcode" people usually mean when they just say "barcode" though, is it?
that's irrelevant, no?
A barcode consists of bars. A QR code consists of pixels/squares.
a QR code is a barcode
@TheWanderer wikipedia is wrong >:-D
11:23
@ByteCommander the site dinged at me, KILL IT
It's a matrix (bar)code, if anything.
@ByteCommander yes, that's literally what Wikipedia says
QR and barcodes are an example of an information matrix.
Just because someone named it matrix barcode doesn't mean it is a barcode.
but I don't think there are many "barcode" scanners/creators that don't deal with QR as well
11:24
Neither is JavaScript Java or a carpet a car.
every barcode scanner on the Play Store supports QR
QR is not a barcode. It does horizontal and vertical
A barcode is only vertical
@TheWanderer how much would you like to wager on that? >:-D
let me say "many"
Generally QR support cost extra on a scanner.
11:26
@ByteCommander Smokey flagged it because the website was on its blacklist. I guess links to that site have been spammed before.
A barcode is an optical, machine-readable, representation of data; the data usually describes something about the object that carries the barcode. Originally barcodes systematically represented data by varying the widths and spacings of parallel lines, and may be referred to as linear or one-dimensional (1D). Later two-dimensional (2D) codes were developed, using rectangles, dots, hexagons and other geometric patterns in two dimensions, usually called barcodes although they do not use bars as such. Barcodes were initially scanned by special optical scanners called barcode readers. Later application...
@TheWanderer Yes, you need to pay extra for QR support on scanner we sell to our customers
Wikipedia has a whole section under Barcode about 2D barcodes
@Rinzwind aren't most scanning utilities freeware?
If someone wants to make a QR code, they will not google for barcode though.
wikipedia is wrong :=) QR does not do "bars"
11:27
@ByteCommander which is why we dupe questions
@TheWanderer nope. There is a company here down the road called Zeters. Scanners go from 3500 euro and more.
Also just because there exist tools (outside the Ubuntu repos btw) which do both, ignoring the naming, that doesn't mean it's the same.
that Q comes up third on DDG
You can also crop images in LibreOffice Writer and would not dupe a specialized question on that.
but QR codes are barcodes
that's the important thing
they are duplicates
and that's why we link them together
so someone searching for a QR code creator will find the barcode creator
11:29
They are not the same.
Period.
I have spoken.
End.
you're arguing against Wikipedia here
@TheWanderer nope. QR and barcodes are information matrix. Barcodes uses a bar to code its information. A QR does not use bars.
@TheWanderer wikiperdia is wrong on this
the official name is "QR code" Not "QR barcode"
@ByteCommander I am at work so sleeping is out of the question
the official name is "square" not "equal rectangle" what's your point?
@Rinzwind Encyclopedia Britannica must be wrong too britannica.com/technology/QR-Code
11:32
@Rinzwind depends on the job ;-P
I found why qreator is broken.
It's a bug in python-qrencode.
$ python
Python 2.7.12 (default, Nov 19 2016, 06:48:10)
[GCC 5.4.0 20160609] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import qrencode
>>> qrencode.encode("test")
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/qrencode/__init__.py", line 47, in encode
    im = Image.fromstring('L', (size, size), data)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 2063, in fromstring
    "Please call frombytes() instead.")
I can throw links too https://smallbiztrends.com/2011/02/qr-codes-barcodes-rfid-difference.html
" QR codes (pictured below) are similar in one sense to bar codes, in that they contain information which can be read by a QR code reader."
now where do I report thee...?
not official or reputable at all @Rinzwind
Oli
Oli
Chaps, the surface space here is pretty small. The software that solves these problems has a lot of overlap. We have Q/A that could easily expand to "Barcode and QR codes" without anything catching fire or the four horsemen riding in.
what if we just change the title of the target question?
Oli
Oli
11:35
That's what I'm suggesting
So... merge them?
Also why does pip install qrencode not work!?
It tries to compile some C files but is missing a qrencode.h
stupid package
Oli
Oli
> Python wrapper for qrencode library.
@TheWanderer It's not obvious to me that whether or not a QR code is technically a barcode is relevant to the closure/reopening of this question. However, if you want an official, reputable source, the official website about QR codes seems to consider them separate from bar codes. Consider, for example, the wording on this page. (If you trust Wikipedia, it supports my claim that this is the official QR code site. :) )
> With barcodes, information is coded in one direction (one dimension) only. With 2D codes, on the other hand, information is coded in two directions: across and up/down.
Ah, sudo apt install libqrencode-dev
thanks for the hint Oli
should have got there myself
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Q: Why was my close vote removed and comment deleted?

Mark KirbyI voted to close this question as a duplicate but on returning to it, I find my vote removed and comment deleted. I guess it was removed by a moderator but why? Currently, I feel this is very much suppressing my right to vote to close the question, perhaps I am wrong about the dupe but that doe...

11:56
Anyone knows how I can add a new Ubuntu release version as affected to a Launchpad bug report?
Namely Xenial has to be added to bugs.launchpad.net/qreator/+bug/1587249
@TheWanderer does not make it wrong ;-)
Oli
Oli
@ByteCommander The "Also affects..." links... But they're throwing errors back at me when I try them.
Yes, I tried those too. Also with unknown errors. :(
Oli
Oli
Seems silly you'd have to report a bug to report a bug.
bugception
Oli
Oli
12:08
Bwaaaaaaa
it's an error not a bug >:-D
But if the error is caused by a bug... :thinking:
what if you're caused by a bug?
errors are caused by hardware failure
bugs are software >:)
If you caused the bug, then who caused you?
Now it gets philosophical.
12:10
@Rinzwind that's a ridiculous statement
@Rinzwind then Launchpad's servers are dead. I don't believe so.
Oli
Oli
What comes first, the bug or the error?
the egg
Oli
Oli
Why did the bug cross the road?
Two bugs and an error walk into a bar...
A bug visits the doctor...
12:10
@Oli to ask the witch if she could turn it back into a chicken
Oli
Oli
Which witch?
@TheWanderer that we can agree on :=)
Oli
Oli
Mmm sandwich.
@Oli sandwitch
@TheWanderer mind the >:)
12:11
no
12:22
lolriop
lol
/r/androidcirclejerk calls the Pixel the Sexel and HTC HitlerTechCorp
12:42
clearly witty men. Cause yanno puns are the second lowest form of humour.
13:12
@Rinzwind Hey, at least it doesn't bite! Unlike some languages of the snake persuasion :P
Or should that be byte?
@terdon Nothing wrong with a nibble here and there
@terdon cough cough!
:40192322 Sorry, too seizure inducing.
13:30
meh, no love for sneks
@ByteCommander Sorry, but it was a bit too disturbing. And I meant the seizure inducing thing quite literally.
13:46
SNEK
what was seizure-snek?
@ByteCommander Much! Cuuuute!
14:00
groggily shleps into the room and sits at his desk
that's not a desk. that's the sink.
pokes the wooden surface which causes the mod panels to rise up Nope, pretty sure this is the desk :)
the sink is over there where that snake is
erm you just booped the snoot.
drags @JourneymanGeek into the Void of Oblivion with him after casting a chaotic evil spell that rips apart space-time
pees on it
14:04
(I haven't had coffee yet, so consider me chaotic evil for the next 45 minutes)
 
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I wouldn't call that seizure-inducing
but I don't have epilepsy
15:47
Neither do I (but I had something similar as a kid). I may well be wrong, but it certainly was unpleasant to me.
I don't think it's fast enough to cause a seizure
May well not be.
Still very unpleasant though.
OxygenOS update.
Can't decide if I like it or not.
go on?
Lemme post a screenshot.
Hang on.
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