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Chan-Ho Suh

00:00

@RobotHumans got a new name, I see

RobotHumans

@Chan-HoSuh sure did

Chan-Ho Suh

it's amazing how superficial the human mind can be. I can't take Seth seriously now that he is typing in all-caps.

RobotHumans

first time i've seen you since the abrahamvanhelpsing days i think.

@Chan-HoSuh I almost whipped up a script using engla's keybinder to set shift to keydown and leave it that way for him to run in the background ;)

Chan-Ho Suh

for April Fool's?

RobotHumans

Sure

I more meant today when I heard about his caps lock problem, to shift override caps lock

Chan-Ho Suh

00:04

oh ok

@RobotHumans so what have you been up to?

RobotHumans

@Chan-HoSuh playing with quantopian. new job writing nightwatch.js tests (much as I dislike JS, it is a thing)

Chan-Ho Suh

hmm, so would it be fair to say this is an improvement over the last job?

RobotHumans

Yes and no.

Chan-Ho Suh

so how is the futures development on quantopian going? I looked at it a while back and they had only started building stuff for futures

RobotHumans

They just did a point release on that. Haven't tried it out.

Chan-Ho Suh

00:19

so what do you suppose is worse? php or js development?

TheWanderer

PHP

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I'm struggling with Nautilus to give me a directory name to use with diff comparison to another directory tree. However the name returned (it's on my phone) is: mtp://[usb:003,006]/SD%20card/Music which is problematic addressing from bash.

RobotHumans

@Chan-HoSuh php for sure. at least js just tries to coerce everything to json. that and, i thought python was bad for error based flow control. it doesn't have shit on js for the same.

function do_something(arga, argb, (bombs_out, success) => if !(bombs_out){do_something_else}) is a pattern

maybe that's just nighwatch.js and requests though

Chan-Ho Suh

reminds me of how a lot of that jquery type stuff works

at least what I've seen

RobotHumans

jquery has less fallthrough and more features. i'll take the fallthrough for the features.

Chan-Ho Suh

00:27

passing callbacks/handlers around everywhere

Android Dev

Lol, I just read a question where the OP wants to "duel-boot"... I think he meant "dual-boot" :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah I thought of editing that one and fixing the typo.

RobotHumans

i can't talk about it much, but nightwatch not having an "if exists then this else that" without using error based flow control pisses me off to no end.

that and "waitToExist(something).click()" should not require an argument to click.

right?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@AndroidDev Perfect guy for my current error message: mtp://[usb:003,006]/SD%20card is not a directory!

and mtp://[usb:003,006]/SD%20card/Music is not a directory!

Converting the %20 to space doesn't make any difference btw.

the directories in question are on an android phone...

Chan-Ho Suh

@RobotHumans aha, that's what you mean. That does sound horrible

RobotHumans

00:34

@Chan-HoSuh well I resorted to doing flow control that way, because it seems to be the pattern. and click needing arguments seems stupid.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:58

Found the answer: `ls /run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=%5Busb%3A003%2C006%5D/"SD card"/Music
`

Kaz Wolfe

01:22

@AndroidDev A common mistake.

Really, OP wanted Windows and Linux to duel every startup, and the winner boots.

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Journeyman Geek

0_0

RobotHumans

02:00

@JourneymanGeek sup

TheXed

02:39

ITS ALIVE!

RolandiXor

phoronix.com/…

TheXed

Oh it is just @RolandiXor never mind...

RolandiXor

@TheXed lel

TheXed

Do I have to read that or can you just tell me the highlights?

RolandiXor

I just came on to post that link. The quotes from M.S. about Mir-hate prove the disconnect between developer and community.

@TheXed I will post a quote

Sans cursing.

TheXed

02:41

After walking 2 miles and only getting a semi decent picture of a couple of geese I am a bit tired...and lazy...

RolandiXor

> The whole Mir hate-fest boggled my mind - it's free software that does something invisible really well. It became a political topic as irrational as climate change or gun control, where being on one side or the other was a sign of tribal allegiance. We have a problem in the community when people choose to hate free software instead of loving that someone cares enough to take their life's work and make it freely available.

> I came to be disgusted with the hate on Mir. Really, it changed my opinion of the free software community.

> I used to think that it was a privilege to serve people who also loved the idea of service, but now I think many members of the free software community are just deeply anti-social types who love to hate on whatever is mainstream. When Windows was mainstream they hated on it. Rationally, Windows does many things well and deserves respect for those. And when Canonical went mainstream, it became the focus of irrational hatred too.

> The very same muppets would write about how terrible it was that IOS/Android had no competition and then how terrible it was that Canonical was investing in (free software!) compositing and convergence.

SMH. Just doesn't get it...

TheXed

I am afraid to ask so I am not going to open the can of worms :-P

RolandiXor

People aren't hating because it's mainstream, they're hating because of a complex host of issues, including the NIH syndrome that went along with its invention, the fact that Ubuntu loyalists (myself included) tried to hold out for the sake of the "vision" and even defended some rather ridiculous moves by a company that clearly doesn't know what "service" actually entails.

Lol anyway I'm giving this issue too much rantage and I will just look like a negative little ungrateful fool, so I'll go silent again :)

TheXed

I think people hate Windows because it cost money....and is insecure....and slow (compared to the competition...I mean honestly some people just are not going to be happy about anything if they have to pay for it...

RolandiXor

I used to hate Windows even when I didn't have to pay for it (when I was able to get free copies (legally)) from a family member.

Windows has major flaws, and after running into one of those flaws that became the last straw, I ditched it.

TheXed

02:48

@RolandiXor right, but would you hate it if they opened their source code and gave it away for free to the masses?

and back...

RolandiXor

@TheXed I still would.

There's a reason I didn't jump ship to ReactOS, and not because it's unfinished.

TheXed

@RolandiXor Okay, but you do realize there are people out there like that though?

RolandiXor

Yes I do. But, actually, that kind of thinking really annoys me in the FOSS community - this idea that people "just want free stuff".

Some of us CAN'T AFFORD to pay.

And it's not that we wouldn't if we could.

TheXed

Which I also under stand, but to say that you can't afford something, isn't the same as saying "someone doesn't deserve to be paid for their time and effort"

RolandiXor

And for people like myself, we make our payment in whatever way we can - helping others, reporting bugs (and following through), etc.

But all we get in return is "It's a service. Like it or lump it chump!"

@TheXed not what I said or what I believe.

TheXed

02:55

I know, but I like to think that those are the people he are targeting with those comments.

RolandiXor

Yet, when people like myself who are not wealthy complain about free software in any way, this is the response we get. "You're not paying my bills so shut up".

That is why people get frustrated and talk negatively about projects like those put forward by Canonical and not only them, but many open source projects.

If you're going to live a life of service, then you have to accept that service is messy, and people are going to get upset at you - it's par the course. If you can't handle people getting upset then don't serve! Simply produce everything with the intention of getting money and be up front about it.

TheXed

Um...in other news....check out this project:

hugin.sourceforge.net

RolandiXor

@TheXed I've known of it but never used it - looks useful :)

btw I'm going to take a breather because this topic gets me worked up as you can tell :P

TheXed

Yeah sure, no problem.

RolandiXor

03:31

Just popped back on to post this for anyone who's interested (My old post on 2buntu.com about Mir): plus.google.com/u/0/+RolandRolandiXorTaylor/posts/RytyAHxbrjG

Seth

03:56

hacker kitty

William

04:08

anyone around?

I will just ask my question: I'm thinking about buying a 32bit macbook computer to run ubuntu off ebay. Is this a bad idea? How do 32bit and 64bit ubuntu very?

Journeyman Geek

@William should work, but ehhhh there's probably better options

a 32 bit macbook is probably a c2d. You could do better for whatever you're spending

William

yes core2 duo

Journeyman Geek

How much are you looking at?

If you're going second hand, I'd really suggest an older thinkpad

William

:) i am actually runner a thinkpad now. T420

Journeyman Geek

lol

that's actually pretty new ;)

William

04:13

with a ssd it isn't to bad

need more RAm though

I was just getting the macbook more for nastalaga

Journeyman Geek

In fact, I'd specifically suggest a R61 or newer, simply cause its new enough that you can throw in an SSD and if you can find it, more ram

ah

William

I like the black macbooks. Last ones with user replacable batteries

Journeyman Geek

ehhh.

Anyway, assuming you run an appropriate DE, 32 bit c2ds are fine

William

are you running a thinkpad?

Journeyman Geek

I have a core 2 solo R60 running lubuntu to the left of me

Kinda

I have a few as spares

William

04:16

I had either the R60 or T60 as my first laptop back in high school.

Journeyman Geek

not running one in regular use myself, but my dad runs a R61

I have a handmedown r60 for XP + haiku (and lubuntu incase both mess up), a x220 which I wanted to hand down to my dad but he likes his R61 too much...

William

wow that's crazy. If i had the choice between apple and thinkpad I would choose thinkpad

Journeyman Geek

mainline systems are a razer blade ~~pro~~ stealth and a ivy bridge core i7 desktop with upgrades

@William R61s are relatively cheap

excellent keyboard, displays are meh

William

i like the matte displays actually. The new glossy stuff is terrible

although they are pixelated

Journeyman Geek

More or less

William

04:18

so back to my question do 32bit and 64bit apps run the same

Journeyman Geek

Mostly

there's a few apps that are 64 bit only

William

i use gimp, nodejs, chrome

chrome is probably 64bt only

Journeyman Geek

naw

64 bit support in browsers is rare

William

64 bit is required in OSX/macOS for chrome I think

well sort of they stopped supporting older versions of the OS therefore it 64bit only

what do you do with the R60 if you aren't busy

Journeyman Geek

Mostly just testing things before I throw it on my server proper

also we rarely throw out anything unless its totally broken ;p

William

04:27

thanks bye never heard of core 2 solo before you mentioned it. Learned something new.

lol you have a 3,500 grand latop that is crazy

Journeyman Geek

er

my bad

razer blade stealth ;p

I wish I could afford a razer blade pro, and I probably would get the regular model ;p

William

much more reasonable in price

Journeyman Geek

very nice ultrabook - and I bought the older model right when they were clearing stock

William

do you use the touch screen seems unneeded

Journeyman Geek

Not much

SmokeDetector

05:20

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SmokeDetector

05:57

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Ubuntu Questions on U&L

07:16

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Q: Which MySQL installation package to dowload for Ubuntu 14.0?

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Rinzwind

07:36

@JacobVlijm you'd expect not-smart and not-simple? >:-D

Jacob Vlijm

Stupid & complicated :) @Rinzwind

....I need to use that some day :)

Rinzwind

just 1 issue ... you need about 3 times the space for this

Jacob Vlijm

Room for a pony.

Rinzwind

and a stable

Jacob Vlijm

Yeah, I aksed OP if he had enough room...

Rinzwind

07:41

I would use nautilus and guess for about 40Gb worth of files :P

Jacob Vlijm

...Nautilus is often very slow and risky on big chunks.

Rinzwind

maybe there is a way to create a tar on the fly with a size :-P
But that would require removing the files afterwards or you copy the same files over and over.

I would use rsync :P

Jacob Vlijm

Also interesting to know if files or directories are possibly changed in between.

Rinzwind

sure would

did you see the F1? :D

Jacob Vlijm

@Rinzwind unbelievable! He is getting famous :)

Rinzwind

07:57

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I am running Ubuntu 14.04 32bit. Recently, I decided to install ClamAV. It keeps warning me about this pua.win.trojan.xored-1. I read online that this means I have a rootkit. I download and ran chkrootkit. It says the following: The following suspicious files and directories were found: ...

clamav rootkit chkrootkit

s i g h

really .... S I G H.

Jacob Vlijm

Haha :)

SmokeDetector

08:15

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Rinzwind

08:28

done smokey

cl-netbox

Hello :)

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Rinzwind

boxy!

cl-netbox

rinzy ! :)

Rinzwind

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duped against link in question >:)

cl-netbox

08:43

@Rinzwind added my vote :)

Rinzwind

09:23

@Anwar that is worthy of an answer

The reason behind was, you're explicitly giving it the name of the packages to install. So, just confirming is enough because it got your permission first time. But if there are some more issues to be concerned, you'll be asked another question. Most of the time the choice is negative in those cases — Anwar 2 mins ago

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Q: ping works, ssh goes timeout

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Rinzwind

09:41

@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L so use ping to transfer files :=)

Anwar

10:14

@Rinzwind lol. It's deleted now. Originally I wrote an answer, but thought this is POB case, so put that answer in comment

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anonymous2

12:45

Come back after the weekend - 70 review items. Mmm, enough to keep me busy for an hour or two. ;)

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Elder Geek

14:02

Hello all! This is a mess can we close it as the called duplicate? askubuntu.com/questions/564141/no-wifi-ubuntu-14-04-new-user/…

Rinzwind

done :)

Elder Geek

@Rinzwind Thank you.

Anwar

14:22

Anyone here used google calendar to sync with the local calendar?

Elder Geek

@Anwar Not I, sorry.

Rinzwind

14:35

Not me

Thomas Ward

wheee, bugs are evil lol

I discovered a bug in my own software, lol.

and just pushed a fix to pypi heh

Rinzwind

tsk you waste valuable time from testers. The correct order of things: you make software. you wait for bugreports. you fix bug and pad bugreporter on the back.

what's this "I just removed the bugreporter out of this sequence" attitude?

Anwar

14:50

oh. I configured evolution to show events on gnome calendar. it shows sometimes. But in cinnamon it never showed

instead was sending and receiving tiny bytes and forking 4-6 processes

It's a debian question afaik. No middleman package in ubuntu askubuntu.com/q/558407/61218

Thomas Ward

None of you know that "We support third party software on Ubuntu", do you

Refer to the help center guys, we DO support third-party programs, whether provided by the Ubuntu repos or not.

We've never been strictly "Only in the Repos" for support.

EVER

@Anwar Given the information i just stated, how do you know that is offtopic?

Anwar

@ThomasWard the tag is debian. And I searched packages.ubuntu.com No such package exists. But debian have that package

Thomas Ward

@Anwar just because the package doesn't exist in the Ubuntu repos doesn't mean the question is wholly offtopic. The debian tag, of course, does, but if someone wanted help with a third party software that wasn't in the repos, was in Debian's repos, but they're on Ubuntu, it's on topic. Just keep that in mind.

Are you using Debian, or are you installing Middleman from source or an Ubuntu-ported package from a PPA? (Your tags suggest Debian, so this question has been closed, however if you are not using Debian, we can reopen this) — Thomas Ward ♦ 4 mins ago

^ in case they were actually on Ubuntu

bleh i need sleep

Rinzwind

15:06

on a topic from 2014? :X

Anwar

tag was the main cause i suspect. searches just made it strong.

Thomas Ward

yawns

@Rinzwind you never know

someone give me coffee money

:P

Rinzwind

how much would that set me back? and got a bank account?

Anwar

15:52

cinnamon doesn't have a gui way to disconnect and reconnect to a 3g modem connection. it disables modem without disabling connection

Journeyman Geek

@ThomasWard lol. Software not on the repos is an essential part of my workflow

cl-netbox

@Anwar Are you still "fighting" with that DE ? Hi Anwar ! :)

Anwar

@cl-netbox sort of. I am using KDE mainly. but to test with a bug I'm using cinnamon now

cl-netbox

@JourneymanGeek Which repos are you using ? :D Hi ! :)

Journeyman Geek

@cl-netbox I have some non repository software I use - mostly on fedora at the moment

but I occationally compile things I need

Anwar

15:58

@cl-netbox in KDE, this bug happens. Although it is a kernel bug, never experienced in any other DE.

cl-netbox

@Anwar Are you satisfied with KDE ? I tried it a few weeks ago once again when I tested tumbleweed ... looked (still) quite confusing to me - too many settings ! :D

Journeyman Geek

@cl-netbox KDE's kinda fine if you used to, or currently run windows ;p

Anwar

@cl-netbox like windows. Yes, I was liking it. but now with that bug ..

cl-netbox

@JourneymanGeek ah yes ... I have some "local" rpm packages from the opensuse repo manually installed on centos / fedora / redhat systems. :)

Journeyman Geek

@cl-netbox I've been playing with kimchi for KVM management

and veeam for backups

cl-netbox

16:01

@JourneymanGeek does veeam work reliable ? I use clonezilla - it doesn't have a "nice GUI" but it is fast and extremely reliable. :)

Journeyman Geek

@cl-netbox its fine once it gets working. no LVM support tho

cl-netbox

@Anwar Well, this bug must be extremely annoying ... now I get why you are testing other DEs. :)

Journeyman Geek

and I had to hack together backing up to a remote smb fileshare over a non standard port

Anwar

@cl-netbox yes. Though I always use more than 1 DEs :)

terdon

@Seth To be fair, you can get yourself into that sort of thing on Linux too. Although, admittedly, it takes some effort:

in /dev/chat, Feb 1 at 9:14, by Caleb

WHILE I'M HERE DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO TURN OFF CAPS_LOCK IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY HAVE IT TURNED ON WHEN YOU RUN SETXKBMAP -OPTION CAPS:SWAPESCAPE, YOU DON'T HAVE AN ESCAPE KEY, AND THUS END UP WITH NO WAY TO ACCESS THE CAPS_LOCK MODIFIER ANY MORE?

And, of course, in Linux there's a fix:

94

A: How do I turn off Caps Lock (the lock, not the key) by command line?

I don't know of any command line tool for that in Ubuntu. (For Num Lock, there is numlockx .) Here's a one-liner that you can copy-paste into a terminal window: python -c 'from ctypes import *; X11 = cdll.LoadLibrary("libX11.so.6"); display = X11.XOpenDisplay(None); X11.XkbLockModifiers(display,...

cl-netbox

16:06

@Anwar I always use one DE ... and I use that one that ships per default with the system ... avoids much trouble ... :D

Anwar

@cl-netbox better if you're satisfied

Seth

@terdon that's just getting caps lock locked on. Literally nothing I did in Windows (hitting the physical key, using the onscreen keyboard, using PowerShell) fixed it.

Definitely a different problem ;)

terdon

Sure, I just found it amusing that a similar thing happened to Caleb.

Seth

@terdon yeah it reminded me of that at the time hehe

Pretty amusing

cl-netbox

@Anwar yeah, I tested many and found that fedora works best with GNOME - opensuse with KDE - solus with budgie - ubuntu with unity (until now)

Anwar

16:10

That should be the case IMO.

Seth

@cl-netbox can you get a global menu on budgie?

cl-netbox

@Seth if you mean a top menu like unity yes ... and you can customize it -> solus-project.com/budgie Hi Seth ! :)

Seth

@cl-netbox yay

cl-netbox

@Seth Although I stopped testing solus and budgie some time ago ... I concentrate on fedora and ubuntu, maybe something changed meanwhile :)

Zanna

Is this flaggable? askubuntu.com/review/late-answers/698913

I already downvoted it but I ran out of delete votes

Seth

16:17

@cl-netbox Ubuntu budgie is a thing now ;)

So budgie is Ubuntu :D

cl-netbox

@Seth hahaha

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna Still got 30. now 29 :)

Zanna

delete votes or flags? haha

Jacob Vlijm

Delete :)

Zanna

wow what riches

I only get 23 :/

cl-netbox

16:19

@Seth I'm gonna watch what happens in the next time ... hope that Mark doesn't sell the whole thing to Microsoft ... between the lines I see a lot of frustration in his posts.

Jacob Vlijm

I can give you mine illegally @Zanna

:)

Zanna

I appreciate the gesture

I'll just have to answer more questions :D

Jacob Vlijm

I just spent another one: askubuntu.com/a/903241/72216

^ weird answer

"You can also use a screw driver"

Zanna

I "recommended deletion" of that one in the queue, after I'd already used all my delete votes

cl-netbox

Good afternoon @JacobVlijm and @Zanna ! :)

Zanna

16:22

afternoon \o

Jacob Vlijm

Hey @cl-netbox

TheXed

hi

Zanna

I still want to know if it's flaggable...

cl-netbox

@TheXed Hi ! :)

TheXed

Whats up?

Jacob Vlijm

16:23

@Zanna Of course! NAA I guess?

cl-netbox

@Zanna everything is flaggable ! :D

Zanna

that is patently not the case haha

fine I am flagging

good luck to my flag :S

cl-netbox

@TheXed not much ... except for for the trouble the announcement from Mark Shuttleworth caused in the community. :)

Anwar

@cl-netbox someone else said that before in this room. Was it you?

cl-netbox

@Anwar yes it was me.

TheXed

16:26

@cl-netbox...well I hate to say it, but he isn't all that wrong...people just have a hard time seeing it...

At least the comment I read....

cl-netbox

@TheXed of course he is not wrong ... I can understand him perfectly ... he spent so much private money and gave a huge enthusiasm into the projects ... and what did he get back ? pure hate in many cases

TheXed

@cl-netbox but some people rather bitch and moan about the missteps that people make instead of looking at all the good things and moving forward...

cl-netbox

@TheXed yes, exactly ... I can tell you a story which shows what he and his team achieved : my wife was a long-time Windows user - one day she powered on her machine and asked me "what is this ???" I said : your new system ... just use it ! and guess what ? after a few hours she was just working with ubuntu and unity ! That says it all ...

@TheXed Forgot to mention that my wife is a total noob when it comes to such things ... :D

TheXed

16:46

Well I don't know if Unity was their crowning achievement but I digress...

cl-netbox

@TheXed the main advantage of ubuntu (with unity) is that it is the most easy to use operating system of all (IMHO of course) - especially for not so experienced users ! :)

TheXed

I would say the same about Windows 10, but that is because it does what I need it to do, and runs the software I need it to, and I have developed a very efficient work flow on it, but that isn't Ubuntu's fault, and would be very irrational to hate Mark Shuttleworth for it...

cl-netbox

@TheXed you say it - exactly that ... I completely agree : no reason to blame Canonical, Mark and ubuntu at all ! :)

TheXed

@cl-netbox but it is the internet, and rational people are not allowed to have opinions here...so I will just go away now.

cl-netbox

@TheXed Also, everybody has the free choice to use what he wants ... one likes Macs - one likes Windows - one likes arch or gnome or ubuntu or whatever ...

@TheXed go away from what ? ubuntu ?

TheXed

16:54

@cl-netbox no go away from the internet...

cl-netbox

@TheXed then we can't talk here anymore ... or do I misunderstand you ? the internet is "the road we drive on" :)

TheXed

No it was sarcasm...you know...like "if it is on the internet then it must be true", well my statement is "if it is rational then it has no place on the internet".

cl-netbox

@TheXed got it now :) you're right :)

TheXed

So me being a fairly rational person (at least I think I am), have no place on the internet and must leave now.

cl-netbox

@TheXed I stay away from those discussions on the internet for exactly that reason (mostly) - in very rare cases I post something, the main exception is Ask Ubuntu.

TheXed

17:02

Honestly though I don't really care about what he said she said crap...I just want to be able to get help when I need it, and help others when I am able...The developers can complain and fight and cry because their feelings got hurt, and the community can bitch and moan about it, but as long as I can do the things I need/want to do, then I am going to keep doing it.

cl-netbox

@TheXed perfect attitude ! :)

TheXed

17:15

@cl-netbox it is the only one I have...well at least until the kids come home from school...then it gets worse :-P

cl-netbox

@TheXed hahaha ... there always are reasonable exceptions ! :D

TheXed

17:42

@cl-netbox and unreasonable expectations...

cl-netbox

@TheXed also true ... :)

Android Dev

@TheWanderer - You need to add ubatu to your misspellings list. It should have something to do with bats, I think :)

Here's a Q with it: http://askubuntu.com/q/898451/518562

edwinksl

reddit.com/r/programming/comments/64idzl/…

TheWanderer

this week, in Pointless Programming

draw randomly colored dots in an imageview

Zanna

18:08

haha my brother sent me some beautiful code he used to make random bubbles

Jacob Vlijm

Your brother also codes?

Zanna

my brother really codes, like, as a day job

people pay him for it and everything

Jacob Vlijm

AHA, it's in the genes :)

Zanna

haha maybe. I got my first computer when I was five. My dad wrote a program for it to print Happy Birthday scrolling across the screen in big red letters

that was in 1989...

Jacob Vlijm

18:24

WOW, my first one was a Macintosh LC, no less then 32Mhz processor and the dizzling hard disk of 40MB. I was much older than 5 though. I believe my daughter was 3 years old then haha

Zanna

it was a ZX Spectrum... I don't remember the specs properly

I'll get my numbers mixed up if I try

Jacob Vlijm

I still have a perfectly working powerbook 145B by the way. Good as new, system 7 AND an external modem, that makes sounds like an alien.

Zanna

hahaha

the Spectrum made the most unearthly sound when it was loading a program... the programs were on magnetic cassette tapes

Jacob Vlijm

...After the program was loaded, you probably needed to put it back to the position on the table where you started :)

TheXed

I like tacos...

Zanna

18:32

me too (as long as they are vegan)

Mexican food is awesome

Jacob Vlijm

@TheXed This reminds me of a little kid I had on her first guitar lesson at my house. After I told some stuff about the guitar, inviting her to produce the first sound, she looked at me silently and after a few seconds: "I have a new bicycle". Teaching is great.

Zanna

Wow... listening to Nina Simone's version of Suzanne (by Leonard Cohen) live with just an acoustic guitarist (edit: and some little drums)... so so good...

@JacobVlijm hahaha I know the type

Jacob Vlijm

Yeah, I won't complain about my profession :)

Rinzwind

19:21

yes you do

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

19:32

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Q: I enabled ufw in an aws instance. How to stop that?

I enabled ufw within the server instance, when connected through ssh. But now, I am not able to connect to the server in any way. Is there a way to disable the ufw in the server? I couldnt find any way from aws console. It is a ubuntu server

linux ubuntu aws ufw

Byte Commander

Haven't we seen that here on AU yesterday? ^

Jacob Vlijm

19:49

@Rinzwind I did?

Kaz Wolfe

20:19

damn you docker.

cc @NathanOsman, are you here?

Zanna

what to do here?

Byte Commander

@Zanna write that as answer

Kaz Wolfe

Add as answer

Zanna

ok thanks, done :)

time for bed zzzz

Byte Commander

nighty

Nathan Osman

20:35

@KazWolfe here now

Kaz Wolfe

0

Q: How can I configure my firewall to work with Docker?

My computer is hosting an application on port 1234 that should never be accessible from anything but my machine. However, my Docker container (which is running Apache) should be able to access this. Similarly, my Docker container is hosting a number of resources on various ports that should simil...

networking firewall docker network-bridge

Nathan Osman

Oh my.

Kaz Wolfe

yep.

Nathan Osman

Why do you need a firewall? When you launch the container, you can specify ports from the container to expose on the host and only the host IIRC.

Kaz Wolfe

I need the other way around.

Nathan Osman

20:39

Let's say your container exposes port 8000. You can allow only apps running on the host to access that port by doing something like -p 8000:1234:127.0.0.1

Kaz Wolfe

Literally anyone else <--X-- [ Firewall] ---- Host (1234) ---- [ Firewall ] ----> Container

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Oh, now I'm starting to see the problem.

And the name of the bridge changes each time...

I wonder if there's an option to manually specify a bridge name.

Kaz Wolfe

that would be nice.

Nathan Osman

This might be it: docs.docker.com/engine/reference/commandline/network_create/…

Kaz Wolfe

Alright, now how do I do this in docker-compose?

Nathan Osman

20:42

Option	                        Equivalent  Description
com.docker.network.bridge.name	-    	    bridge name to be used when creating the Linux bridge

@KazWolfe Let me check...

First of all, you'll need to be using Compose v2. You can't change network settings in v1.

Kaz Wolfe

being done

Nathan Osman

docs.docker.com/compose/networking/#specifying-custom-networks

Then I think that lets you set options ---^

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: NFS slow after upgrading ubuntu from 14.04 to 16.04

Untarring software packages takes forever. It was much faster before upgrading to ubuntu 16.04. I have bumped up the number of nfs server daemons from 8 to 32 and have also mucked with rsize and wsize with very little difference.

ubuntu nfs

Kaz Wolfe

and i think i have a solution \o/

Nathan Osman

\o/

Zanna

20:59

Literally what I do every night ^

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