Ask Ubuntu General Room

Oli

00:09

@JorgeCastro Welcome to the high rollers' club

George Edison

02:20

3

Q: Why does '/' have an '..' entry?

This just baffles me. Why does the root directory contain a reference to a parent directory? bob@bob:/$ ls -a . build home lib32 mnt .rpmdb sys vmlinuz .. cdrom initrd.img lib64 opt sbin tmp vmlinuz.old bin dev initrd.img.old lost+found pr...

George Edison

06:27

@Stefano: Whew! I just rewrote a very sizable chunk of JetFTP. Now it is no longer multi-threaded and relies on signals. But it is much more stable now and even responds to SIGINT. (Pressing Ctrl-C.)

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison Morning :-)

that's cool!

How exactly was it multi-threaded before? (what were and weren't new threads?)

George Edison

Each connection was its own thread.

And the server itself was a new thread.

Stefano Palazzo

Did you use any special sort of lock for the socket listening on port [whatever the standard ftp port it]?

George Edison

When it was multi-threaded?

Stefano Palazzo

yeah

George Edison

06:32

Ya, Qt has thread-safe signals/slots that handle that.

Stefano Palazzo

Oh I see

Well I don't know what to say, very cool that it's more stable now, but you will have to go back to a multi-threaded design at some point right?

Or maybe not, you are planning to make few servers

So a server would still be utilised efficiently if you ran jethttp, jetftp and jettelnet on it :)

George Edison

07:00

Yeah... I don't think I would make it multi-threaded again... not for a good long time.

Most Apache installations are single-threaded.

(All of the ones with mod_php are.)

Stefano Palazzo

see, i know nothing :) (that surprises me)

I think your implementation could well be the most simple and straightforward one out there, so you have a performance advantage anyway. I'll be interested to see how it compares to other ftp servers

I'm sorry for sounding so un-enthusiastic, I'm secretly hoping your server will be 10 times faster than any other, so it'll be very successful (:

because I like your way of doing things

George Edison

07:18

Thank you.

I hope it's a success too. Eventually, I'd like to deploy it on a server and give it a real test.

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Whoa...! Launchpad sure has a loooong backlog of pending builds.

>3 hours worth.

Stefano Palazzo

I've always wondered why private ppas get preferred treatment on launchpad's build service

should be the other way 'round

help.launchpad.net/Packaging/BuildScores

George Edison

You're in luck... the i386 build starts in 9 minutes.

Stefano Palazzo

nice

George Edison

08:05

i386 build is finished and published.

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison do you have any API documentation for jetserver?

George Edison

Not yet.

But the version of JetFTP in the repo. currently doesn't connect to JetServer.

I have to add that part again. It runs standalaone right now.

Stefano Palazzo

hum, i can't connect

just doing this

from ftplib import FTP
ftp = FTP("localhost")

George Edison

Are you using port 8021?

It uses that so that it can run as non-root.

...plus it's easy to remember.

Stefano Palazzo

Sure, I remember now

It's still early :P

memory management seems excellent

it's around 500k, even if I bombard it with requests

George Edison

08:19

Oh, that's good.

Stefano Palazzo

if I do this nonsense:
    while 1:
        ftp.cwd("sbin")
        ftp.cwd("..")

it seems printing the server's messages to stdout is more work than fulfilling the request

George Edison

That seems reasonable.

I should make an option to disable that.

...or maybe an option to enable it.

Well, it's pretty late here (past midnight). I better call it a night. Thanks for trying out JetFTP :)

Stefano Palazzo

I'll keep going, thanks for writing good code :) kbye

Marc Gravell

btw, theming on chat.SE should be in now - the room index is like: chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=askubuntu.com

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcGravell This is how it should be, brilliant!

the [chat] link on our site will be "?tab=site", right?

Marc Gravell

08:37

if you come directly from the chat link we use the http-referer

(double-checks) actually, since we'll probably keep the alias initially, it will redirect to exactly the above link

Stefano Palazzo

It's only a small thing :)

user4124

08:53

i don't do referrers so am out in the cold ;-/

Marc Gravell

:46064 well, I guess I could change the core code. For now though, because it'll be an alias + redirect you'd still get au

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison for when you get back. I don't know what I'm doing I admit, but I've managed to crash jetftp from a remote location with a segfault. Here's how I did it: paste.ubuntu.com/553085 Maybe I've got a few misconceptions about pentesting, no idea if this should happen, but you may want to build in some kind of safeguard.

@MarcGravell we're all very thankful that you communicate with us about these things, by the way

101

09:10

babe babe

Marc Gravell

10:01

room topic changed to General Ubuntu: General discussion around ubuntu/askubuntu

Marco Ceppi

10:31

Looks like we've been moved I was rather fond of our island

Marc Gravell

10:42

note: chat.askubuntu.com now redirects to the ubuntu rooms on chat.SE

Marco Ceppi

@MarcGravell Awesome thanks! Although I think we did some decent damage on our own in messages sent. We were up to 46,067 posts Compared to the 356,936 on this SE chat site :D

Marc Gravell

we approve of chatty ;p

Marco Ceppi

@MarcGravell Then you shouldn't have a problem with us!

Marc Gravell

As usual, if anyone hits any problems please let me know directly, or post on meta.stackoverflow.com with the "chat" tag

2

Marco Ceppi

10:57

Hey @MarcGravell quick question for you

Should events for other chats show up in our upcoming events page?

iamsid

0

Q: Looking for an old classic book about Unix command-line tools

I am looking for a book about the Unix command-line toolkit (sh, grep, sed, awk, cut, etc.) that I read some time ago. It was an excellent book, but I totally forgot its name. The great thing about this specific book was the running example. It showed how to implement a university bookkeeping sys...

command-line text books

???

fixunix.com/unix/…

Looks like a rehash of this!

Marc Gravell

11:19

@MarcoCeppi excellent question. Probably not; fixing.

Marc Gravell

11:30

Fixed

Marco Ceppi

11:43

@MarcGravell <3

Data-Base

hello

Stefano Palazzo

hello @DataBase

Data-Base

i'm trying to build a minimal distro with just xorg

i managed to that and it worked fine in VMWare

Stefano Palazzo

what do you want to do with it?

Data-Base

I installed VirtualBox

to run virtualBox

what I think I'm missing from all this is, sound drivers, graphic drivers, network drivers

to make it run for different machines

is that correct?

Stefano Palazzo

11:48

you know VirtualBox doesn't need xorg to run right? (just checking)

Data-Base

yes I just wanted to emulate the XenClient from citrix

Stefano Palazzo

okay

Data-Base

do you think this thing worth doing

Stefano Palazzo

depends, why does your distro need to be "minimal"?

Data-Base

to use less space as much as possible, keep it secured and fast

it will only be used to run virtual machines

and the virtual machines will be used to what ever daily life use

I really liked the idea of XenClient allot, but it supports only Intel Graphic Cards

Marco Ceppi

11:53

@DataBase Do you need Hardware Emulation?

Or will these VMs all be Linux?

Data-Base

they can be anything Solaris, Windows

Stefano Palazzo

If you want to avoid all of that driver business, i recommend you just install a minimal ubuntu server (that should be about half a gigabyte iirc), and put xorg on top by just doing sudo apt-get install xorg, you can then start removing stuff until you have a configuration that just about works

you can select "minimal installation" from the ubuntu server disc's boot menu

Data-Base

that what I did in my first test and it worked perfectly :-)

Stefano Palazzo

oic :)

Data-Base

but if I want to build an installation CD!

how I can do that

that automate all this!

and has only these packages

Stefano Palazzo

11:57

okay, I've never tested this, but I'm going to say it anyway (i may well be wrong)

sudo su
remastersys dist

Data-Base

ok :-)

I will read more about it, Thanks

I have another question

iamsid

0

Q: Looking for an old classic book about Unix command-line tools

I am looking for a book about the Unix command-line toolkit (sh, grep, sed, awk, cut, etc.) that I read some time ago. It was an excellent book, but I totally forgot its name. The great thing about this specific book was the running example. It showed how to implement a university bookkeeping sys...

command-line books

Stefano Palazzo

I've no idea how remastersys works, since I never tried it, but it's been asked on AskUbuntu.com quite a few times, you should get some pointers there, in addition to remastersys' manpage

Data-Base

I will read more about it :-)

the other question is network manager in Ubuntu

does it need gnome?

iamsid

No

Data-Base

12:00

can I run it in xorg? with no extra installation or just minimal

iamsid

It needs its GNOME dependencies

Data-Base

ok

I will test it now, it is apt-get install network-manage ?

Stefano Palazzo

there is a very nice command-line interface for networkmanger (the package is called cnetworkmanager)

iamsid

network-manager-gnome

packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/network-manager-gnome

Check out the dependencies list.

Data-Base

@StefanoPalazzo but what if I want a GUI under xorg?

Stefano Palazzo

12:03

the gui for networkmanger is the "network-manager-applet", that needs "gnome-panel".

@iamsid correct me if that's wrong (:

iamsid

No. :)

nm-applet

Stefano Palazzo

cool, so if you want to use a graphical network-connection manager, you might want to try "wicd" or "connman" (preferably wicd, it's more mature)

Data-Base

ok here is my question in a clearer way (sorry if I made a confusion)

is there any way to have a panel under xorg that I can add some applets to it some thing like network manger?

Marco Ceppi

Or just configure it via /etc/network and ifconfig

Data-Base

well it is not a problem for me, I just want to build something with nice looking ;-)

Stefano Palazzo

12:09

~$ apt-rdepends network-manager-gnome | grep gnome
network-manager-gnome
  Depends: libgnome-bluetooth8 (>= 2.27.5)
  Depends: libgnome-keyring0 (>= 2.20.3)
  Depends: gnome-keyring
  Depends: libgnome-keyring0 (>= 2.20.3)
gnome-keyring
  Depends: libgnome-keyring0 (>= 2.20.3)
libgnome-keyring0
libgnome-bluetooth8

so, unless you install pretty much a complete gnome desktop, network-manager applet won't run

Data-Base

I can see

iamsid

Why aren't the images displayed anymore?

Data-Base

which network manager used in Lubuntu?

Stefano Palazzo

iamsid

same

network-manager-gnome

Data-Base

12:12

ok

iamsid

even in xubuntu and edubuntu

Data-Base

@StefanoPalazzo I saw that thanks :-)

@iamsid aha OK

Stefano Palazzo

Ono - we now have the weird chat notification sound from chat.se, instead of that really nice "ding"...

2

Data-Base

hmmm so I need a minimal gnome installation?

Stefano Palazzo

@DataBase gnome isn't all that massive, to give you a feeling for how big it is: When you log in to GDM, you already have a full gnome-session, except for gnome-panel and nautilus

that's including bluez, pulseaudio, ibus, metacity, ...

Data-Base

12:15

ok

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Yeah, it's going to take some time to get used to that.

Stefano Palazzo

at one point, you may end up with a system that's pretty much a full ubuntu-desktop minus a few apps (like games and openoffice)

iamsid

@MarcoCeppi No images on the main site either! Below visit chat

Data-Base

lol yes

Marco Ceppi

@iamsid Oh, yeah @MarcGravell will probably need to update the API calls for the site to pull from chat.se and not our old chat.au

Data-Base

12:17

any one has info on Wingpanel

iamsid

@MarcoCeppi Hmmm

@DataBase Like?

Marco Ceppi

I'm going to cut @MarcGravell some slack, I'm almost positive that this is the first time they've ever had to migrate a chat from standalone to chat.SE and it seems to be pretty successful with the exception of a few hiccups

Oli

Is everybody else seeing a bodged-up sidebar today?

(on the main site)

Marco Ceppi

@Oli Yeah, we were just talking about that

iamsid

@Oli Yes

Marco Ceppi

12:19

Oli

Good good. At least it's not just me.

Marco Ceppi

I'll make a post on meta.so

Oli

@MarcoCeppi already done

0

Q: Sidebar is all messed up.

Either something isn't being escaped properly or there's been some new HTML that bodges the site. I'm seeing this behaviour on both the main site and meta.

bug

Marco Ceppi

Grrrr!

Oh, wow! I don't see that at all. You're on your own for that one.

iamsid

@Oli It doesn't look like that here!

Data-Base

12:20

@iamsid hmm this can be the answer apt-get install xorg gnome-session gnome-panel gdm metacity gnome-terminal

Stefano Palazzo

that sounds very reasonable (provided it doesn't just install the whole lot as dependencies)

iamsid

Oli

What's wrong with that?

iamsid

Just no images below Visit Chat

Oli

I see.

I could be wrong but I'd say the issues were related as that's where mine starts to break too

Stefano Palazzo

12:25

they are busy working on it as we speak, I'm sure

Oli

Almost certainly.

Stefano Palazzo

Mh. I'm now wondering what the most minimal ubuntu desktop looks like

I'm going to apt-get install gnome-terminal on my server (:

iamsid

Tiny Core Linux is 10MB. :)

Oli

@StefanoPalazzo I'd assume that would pull in tons of guff you wouldn't want.

xterm would be a lot lighter

Stefano Palazzo

It should be an ubuntu-desktop with gnome

Oli

12:28

@StefanoPalazzo Indeed. A whole load of guff you wouldn't want.

You might as well install ubuntu-desktop if that's your aim.

Stefano Palazzo

huh, it doesn't look that bad

Data-Base

yeh

Stefano Palazzo

oh yes it does, I didn't read it properly. It even wants to install openoffice

was wrong; bows before @oli

Oli

lol

It's not that bad on my server... 160 packages, no ubuntu-desktop, no openoffice

Still a whole load of guff I don't want anywhere near a server (keyrings, dbus, gvfs, hunspell, etc) but not that bad...

iamsid

Now we can see other rooms too.

Marco Ceppi

12:38

@iamsid I believe that was the idea of moving things here

Central Chat server, better community strength

iamsid

@MarcoCeppi Yes.

I was amazed to see 4500 rep under my nick... And then.

Stefano Palazzo

Uh, anybody using virtualbox 4.0's port forwarding gui-thing?

iamsid

:P

Roland Taylor

hi

Stefano Palazzo

it doesn't work for me, says connection refused when i try to log in via ssh

Marco Ceppi

12:42

@RolandTaylor Welcome to the new chat home, glad you could make it :P

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi this is a new thing?

Stefano Palazzo

hehe

Marc Gravell

@MarcoCeppi already done; I'm pinned a bit by our release schedule, I'm afraid

Marco Ceppi

Marc Gravell

@MarcoCeppi yes, except for serverfault, superuser, webapps, gaming, ...

Stefano Palazzo

12:56

the site seems so quiet today

granted, people in america aren't at work yet.

Marco Ceppi

13:10

Some days are quiet, others not so much.

Aron Rotteveel

13:54

Anyone feeling bright today? I am struggling with a share mount over VPN problem that I cannot seem to solve.

0

Q: Cannot mount a CIFS network share on Ubuntu over VPN

I have setup u VPN connection to our Windows 2008 server at the office and it seems to work fine. For some reason, however, I still am not able to access the network shares over a VPN connection using my standard fstab entries. When I am physically connected to the network, it works fine, but no...

10.10 windows vpn fstab share

TheX

@StefanoPalazzo I have been at work for 15 mins so far :=P

Stefano Palazzo

I can tell :-D

TheX

what? how so?

Marco Ceppi

@AronRotteveel Over VPN you get two lan maps - your current network and the VLAN's network exposure

TheX

did the interwebs break?

Stefano Palazzo

13:57

Marco Ceppi

@AronRotteveel What I have found is I need to use the physical IP address for shares instead of DNS resolute names since your DNS looks is likely occuring on local LAN (we'll say it's eth0) insetad of the DNS at your office's network (eth1)

TheX

@StefanoPalazzo oh that lol

Aron Rotteveel

@MarcoCeppi thanks for the reply. Tried that, actually, but with no success.

The strange thing is that pinging the dns name and ip works fine

Mounting the share does not, until I disable the Windows firewall

(After which it still does not work, but at least it does not time out)

TheX

@AronRotteveel what version of windows?

Aron Rotteveel

@TheX Windows Server 2008

TheX

14:00

hmmm....

I see your first mistake...

Marco Ceppi

@AronRotteveel What is the mount's authentication procedure?

Aron Rotteveel

@MarcoCeppi what do you mean by that?

Marco Ceppi

Is there any authentication into the windows share - whether Username/Password or what have you

Aron Rotteveel

@MarcoCeppi yeah the share is authenticed by user/password

using a .smbcredentials file in my fstab

The strange thing is that it works fine when physically connected

Marco Ceppi

14:14

@AronRotteveel I wish I still worked at an office via VPN and Windows servers

I had to do something with Cisco VPN Client and networking to get shares to work properly. But I haven't worked anywhere like that in a bunch of months

TheX

@MarcGravell you are a cisco guy?

Marco Ceppi

@TheX My name is @MarcoCeppi :P I use Cisco routers - however, the office I was working for at the time used Cisco VPN Services. I'm not a fan of their VPN stuff though

TheX

@MarcoCeppi how many times have i called you @MarcGravell?

Because I just realized there where two "marc"

Marco Ceppi

Just this one time. You'll have to be careful becuase @MarcGravell roams these chat servers. He never was in our rooms/servers before the move

TheX

I have a computer that keeps restarting, often times before even the bios screen finishes loading, any ideas?

Marco Ceppi

14:27

@TheX That's either RAM or CPU

But it's definitely a Motherboad failure

TheX

I wonder of resetting the ram would help....

I put the ram in a different slot seems to be working now...

Marco Ceppi

you've got a bad ram slot then

Which is lucky, but also not really that lucky

TheX

That not cool... I will have to get that replaced before the warranty goes out :D

on the mobo...

lazyPower

15:39

/me sighs

TheX

@lazyPower ??

lazyPower

I'm puzzling out some VB.Net code thats got my mind blown

TheX

I see

lazyPower

I'm rolling some back end code over from MyGenerations.dOOdads to EntitySpaces

and the syntax + api variance is immense. Its got me buggered to figure out what to do. I'm bothering my project lead every day for inane questions and its starting to grate on my nerves that i'm not grasping whats going on.

TheX

Sorry I can't help you, it has been years since I have done any serious programming....

lazyPower

15:41

its ok :) Had to vent that so I could get on with my life. Insecurities ++

TheX

lol

Marco Ceppi

@lazyPower Just as long as you're not asking the same questions over and over again there isn't a problem with going to your lead for questions.

I've been that lead on a project where the code is just garbage convoluted trashbags of vomit

lazyPower

@MarcoCeppi If i didnt sign an NDA i'd send you a page of this ASP.net tripe so you could see what kind of crap i'm trying to convert. its got my mind boggled. I have dreams about it....

I've spent 6 hours on this page so far with no progress other than rewriting the select statements....

Marco Ceppi

I'm not an ASP.net developer so I would just look at it and say "lollolol"

lazyPower

@MarcoCeppi I wish i was a PHP developer..... but i cant complain. I begged god for a developer position and I got one.

This learning curve is daunting to say the least. .Net is immense and i was a novice to begin with. Given a month i'm sure I'll get it.

Marco Ceppi

15:47

@lazyPower Sounds like you made a deal with the devil :D :P ;D

lazyPower

shrug its building credit to my resume :P

TheX

you sold your soul for your resume :-P

lazyPower

I've done worse...

TheX

yeah we all have...

my wife stole my manhood...

TheX

16:20

This is why no one should ever live in China

bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-10/…

lazyPower

16:34

@TheX I hate it when that happens (the wife's stealing of the manhood)

TheX

@lazyPower yeah me too

it just isn't good.... not for anyone.... other then the wife....

lazyPower

16:47

:P

agreed

TheX

I am glad someone does...

when it comes to my marriage I often times ask myself "do I want to be happy, or do I want to be right?"

lazyPower

I hear thats the main driving force behind marriage

Marco Ceppi

What? That's so ridiculous. Why would you marry in the first place?

htorque

for financial reasons :P

lazyPower

I'm not about marriage, and i'll probably die alone because of it... either that or i'll find some blue eyed brunette that can sucker me into it and i'll die divorced and alone... either way the end result is the same :P

TheX

16:50

@MarcoCeppi that was a joke

htorque

"sucker me into it" >:)

Marco Ceppi

@TheX I have no humor

TheX

@MarcoCeppi I have noticed...

@MarcoCeppi you are like a robot, you only know what your master allows you to know... puppet....

Marco Ceppi

$marcoceppi = new HumanObject();
$canLaugh = $marcoceppi.humor();

Parse Error: Unknown method humor() for HumanObject $marcoceppi

TheX

@htorque btw marriage has not improved my finances, unless you count the wife paying all the bills and doing all the grocery shopping...

htorque

16:53

do you have a job?

TheX

Yes

htorque

see, that's the problem :D

Marco Ceppi

My Girlfriend and I are Pseudo-Married. We live together, we share our lives, and act married under all other pretenses. Only without the messy paperwork.

@TheX IS THE HARDEST WORKER I KNOW

@TheX DESERVES A RAISE IN MY OPINION

;)

TheX

@MarcoCeppi thanks... but I work for the state of IL, so no raises for me...

scientist just discovered a new planet that is not gas, but solid....\

Stefano Palazzo

TheX

16:56

Kepler-10b

Marco Ceppi

room topic changed to Ask Ubuntu General Room: General discussion around Ubuntu & Ask Ubuntu. Though typically off-topic jazz

Stefano Palazzo

yey :)

TheX

what was it previously?

htorque

what's ubuntu? :D

Marco Ceppi

> Ubuntu General: General discussion around ubuntu/askubuntu

TheX

16:59

@htorque just a figment of our imagination... that was created to destroy Apple, and Microsoft

Marco Ceppi

@htorque A Virus that hackers use

Stefano Palazzo

adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html

most of the internets' culture is contained in that document

Marco Ceppi

It was only a matter of time before that article appeared

htorque

LOL, awesome!

TheX

they bought photoshop to educate their kids with?

Stefano Palazzo

17:03

@MarcoCeppi I'm such a child.

0

Q: How to add more 4 pin fan controllers (hardware hacking)

I'm looking at building a new system and most of the good cases come with several fans, but most of the motherboards I've looked at only have one 4 pin case fan header. I'm looking for a guide on hacking in an additional hwmon compatible controller to add a few more 4 pin PWN fan headers so I ca...

hardware

off topic police

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo That's a great migration candidate :D

Stefano Palazzo

absolutely

htorque

don't think that's off-topic. it's a question about hardware compatibility and we got a couple of those, right?

Marco Ceppi

@htorque It's nothing about Ubuntu

Hardware compatibility and Ubuntu then it's golden

Hell, if you can somehow get a question about shower heads that relates to Ubuntu it's in

Stefano Palazzo

+1 now :)

Marco Ceppi

17:10

But just straight hardware, no go.

TheX

17:22

how do i install ubuntu on my shower head and keep it from over heating?

htorque

turn on the integrated watercooling

Marco Ceppi

Or something like - Is there any packages that will allow me to create a coordinated water dance to music with my new Moen Showerhead

htorque

wow, linux is going down the toilette: google.com/insights/search/…

:P

TheX

hmm chrome crashed on me...

TheX

17:40

lol @ 8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?

BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing…

Marc Gravell

Re the @Marco / @Marc thing - we have a scheme to help with that, probe within a few days

karthick87

Hello @StefanoPalazzo

Stefano Palazzo

Hi @karthick87

lazyPower

Hello @karthick87

karthick87

@StefanoPalazzo Last night i have been approved as UBT member :)

@lazyPower Hai :)

Stefano Palazzo

17:50

@karthick87 that's fantastic! congratulations

how very cool :D

karthick87

Thank you :)

TheX

@karthick87 congrats...

karthick87

Thankyou @TheX

Stefano Palazzo

you completely deserve it

TheX

now if we could just convince the SE users to make me a moderator we would be golden

Stefano Palazzo

17:53

@karthick87 can you post a link to the irc logs?

TheX

oh my gosh, now millions of crickets have died!

msnbc.msn.com/id/41034340/ns/us_news-environment

karthick87

@StefanoPalazzo It was done in council meeting

Stefano Palazzo

@karthick87 ?

karthick87

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A: How to add menu items in System menu

Download prixfixe deb package from here and install this is simple gui to add Menu items in ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick) Unity Desktop You can install this deb package by double clicking on it or by using the following command from command line. I hope it helps.Try it and tell me

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@TheX I saw something on Nightline of all places about how this number of "mass dyings" is pretty typical, but usually they don't get any attention

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@PaulFisher yeah I just thought it was funny that more "mass dyings" was making headline news again

besides the world isn't going to end till 2013 anyways the Incas where off by a year...

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