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00:03

(How) can we encourage question askers to do some research of their own? http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2607/how-can-we-encourage-question-askers-to-do-some-research-of-their-own

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 20, 2012 at 11:38 PM

George Edison

00:38

Anyone have any feedback on my submission?

It seems to have really quieted down in here.

rlemon

i'm here

but testing github.com/rlemon/Chat-Easy-Input-Tools

George Edison

What's that?

rlemon

keyboard commands for the chat to format your text.

Tag Input
Link Input
Image Input
Text Formatting (Italics, Bold, Strike-through)
Code Formatting

George Edison

Cool!

rlemon

all with hotkeys.

George Edison

00:40

So if I enter "test", select it, and press Ctrl+B - it will prepend and append '**' ?

rlemon

yup

George Edison

Neat!

rlemon

right now all that works is tags, and almost links.

then on to images, the text formatting, then code formatting.

George Edison

If you are interested, please give this a try when you list it on Stack Apps.

:)

rlemon

ohh your auto submit.

I planned on it. just haven't had anything to submit yet. ;)

George Edison

00:42

I'm eager to hear how it works.

rlemon

version one will not include configurable keys.. but version 1.1 will :P

George Edison

01:00

@JorgeCastro: Ah, just the person I was looking for.

I'm worried I've made a mess of StackApplet's translations on Launchpad.

Jorge Castro

hi

George Edison

It says trunk and 1.4 series are translate-able.

How do I make them un-translate-able?

(If "un-translate-able" is even a word.)

Jorge Castro

I have no clue about translations

George Edison

:(

Jorge Castro

but I can ask David to check out a question if you post it

George Edison

01:01

It's okay.

I managed to figure most of it out now.

I just wondered about those two series.

Actually, David (I assume you are referring to David Planella) has just provided some new translations for StackApplet.

rlemon

if anyone cares to test it... Chat Easy Input Tools (was used to make this link ;P)

bug:P

currently only ALT + A and ALT + T work. (insert Link and insert Tag respectively)

Jorge Castro

@GeorgeEdison He's an unstoppable machine.

George Edison

01:16

I do actually have a question for AU that I encountered while working on StackApplet.

I'll post it shortly.

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Q: How can a Qt application be notified that the user's session is ending and provide it with opportunity to save its state before being terminated?

I am writing a Qt application and have run into the following problem: when the user logs out or attempts to shut down the machine, the application is instantly terminated without providing it any chance to save any data. I assume the app needs to listen for some event. I tried listening for the ...

rlemon

01:37

all ~~dogs~~ kittens go to heaven

George Edison

@rlemon Uhm... there is a sandbox.

rlemon

what. the last one was just a general life statement :P

George Edison

Sounded more like a death statement :P

rlemon

buhdumdum

George Edison

Qt Creator is the closest mankind has come to artificial intelligence.

rlemon

01:47

ken jennings.

he fooled me for a while.. but now I see the truth.

George Edison

It's autocomplete engine knows when I'm dereferencing a smart pointer and presents a list of methods from the pointed-to class.

@rlemon I'd stick Qt Creator up against him any day :)

rlemon

@OctavianDamiean Hey when you get online you can check out github.com/rlemon/Chat-Easy-Input-Tools, it's working... but read the notes.

George Edison

Objective-C has some terribly named classes: stackoverflow.com/questions/2725068/…

That would take half an hour to type.

rlemon

ouch

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02:43

Can you answer this? Making Existing Userlevel program root? http://askubuntu.com/questions/105033/making-existing-userlevel-program-root #terminal

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 21, 2012 at 2:38 AM

George Edison

SITELINKS AT LAST!!!

2

rlemon

Nice!

George Edison

That took about 3 years.

William

How do you make liks?

George Edison

Sitelinks?

You can't - Google does it automatically if your site has enough traffic and a high enough pagerank.

William

02:54

Any links.

In chat.

George Edison

Ooooh.

Like this:

rlemon

github.com/rlemon/Chat-Easy-Input-Tools install my script, select your text and ALT+A

;)

George Edison

[text](url)

rlemon

</selfpromotion>

George Edison

^--- @rlemon's script works good for that too.

William

02:55

I saw the script, how to install?

rlemon

[text](url "optional title") ;)

William

Downloaded the .js.

Wat now?

rlemon

click here

William

Thanks.

rlemon

userscript are fun, just open the .user.js file in the browser and it asks to install it. refresh any open page to ensure it is active.

if you are in chrome... chrome://extensions/ to manage them.

George Edison

02:56

StackApplet works!!!

William

Yay!

rlemon

@GeorgeEdison good day to be you huh :P

William

My websites has no pages or pagelinks.

rlemon

my website is MIA

William

cboos.com

rlemon

02:57

lol, I've given up until I acquire a new host.

William

cboos.com/backup.html actually gives you something.

rlemon

@William if you prepend your links with http:// the chat will automatically turn them into links. cboos.com

William

@rlemon I highlight the text and press alt a but nothing happens.

rlemon

in the chat input you're highlighting it?

and have you refreshed the chat page since you installed the script.

William

No.

rlemon

03:00

bingo.

William

Now it works!

Thanks.

rlemon

userscripts are bits of javascript injected on the page and can function with the page.

if you have not refreshed a page since installing a script the js does not exist on the page.

William

0.0 Injections are painful

rlemon

William

Your'e hurting the pages!

William

04:05

@StefanoPalazzo You there?

I need to ask if something is "too visually simular to the Ubuntu or Ask Ubuntu logos.

@GeorgeEdison You there?

Or @rlemon ?

I need someone to judge if my logo is too similar to the SE or AU logo.

John

@William I'm here. Not sure if I'm qualified, but I'm here. :P

rlemon

04:21

i'm here

still testing my text formatting.

William

Anyone here that would be willing to take a moment out of thier time to look at my logo?

rlemon

stop jabbering and post the damn logo!

:P

William

OK.

Posting damn logo!

2

rlemon

looks nice.

+1

William

That's the key.

I'm going to go post it.

Let you know when It's up there.

rlemon

04:23

does not meet the guidelines for size unfortunately.

William

@rlemon Could you go me a huge favor?

rlemon

possibly ok for the g+ logo.

what is that..

William

What's your screen res?

rlemon

1920*1080

William

OK.

Im on a netbook so that's why I cant get a bigger logo.

The favor is this:

rlemon

04:25

no it's too big!

:P

are you going to g+ logo or promotion ads.

William

I made the logo in an online presentation editor.

I know this is a cheater way to do it but I'm really good at the tool.

rlemon

40 secs ago, by rlemon

are you going to g+ logo or promotion ads.

William

Can I send you a link to the presentation, have you fullscreen it, and press printscreen and upload the result?

g+ logo

rlemon

lol. dude SO not the way to increase the resolution.

William

It works.

rlemon

04:27

save the image + load GIMP + resize + tweak the mutilation from blowing it up + save.

lol. ok i'll do it but i'm telling you.. not the best way to go about it.

send me the link.

William

Nah, Im installing GIMP now.

GIMP makes my netbook cry.

rlemon

lol, probably better. :P but just for giggles what it the link.

William

Theres your giggles.

Doing it in sliderocket.

portal.sliderocket.com/OMS/My-Presentation-3

rlemon

William

Thanks.

rlemon

04:33

best I can do

big enough for you :P

pro tip: export to pdf (best quality), pull png from pdf.

William

OK.

How can I get rido of the White Background in GIMP?

rlemon

what colour

William

I want it to be transparent.

rlemon

ahh, ok that (for me) is still a bit harder without f'ing up the foreground

i'll give it a stab and if i can do it i'll tell you how.

William

@rlemon Well let me upload my 512 first

I want this one edited:

Get rid of White background

but keep white in Ubuntu logo

rlemon

04:52

i think you may have to redo it in GIMP for it to look proper.

which shouldn't be hard btw.

William

OK

Doin that right now

The one I posted above doesnt look that bad, I think Ill keep it.

We dont really need the transparency anyway.

rlemon

what is the font.

i'm gonna help (no credit required)

William

Why?

rlemon

me's pretty decent in GIMP

William

What does you want to change?

rlemon

04:54

because i'm doing a layover to remove the background and it's a Sans, but what script.

i want to change nothing.

William

1 sec

rlemon

i'm removing the bg for you

William

getting font name

and thanks

@rlemon K. Font name is pigarniq.

fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Pigiarniq

tiro.com/syllabics/resources/compiled_data_sources/Fonts/…

is the download link

it needs to be unzipped

rlemon

question.. the font package does not load properly for me.

William

Hmm.

rlemon

05:05

how do i uninstall a font.

William

Ask Google.

George Edison

I highly recommend Inkscape.

William

Yeah, I don't know how to use ith though.

So SLideRocket woks just fine.

George Edison

Well, it's not too hard and looking back you will be very glad you did.

@William Does SlideRocket export to any vector formats?

William

Yeah, there are a billion thins I ought to learn.

George Edison

05:12

PDF... SVG...?

William

PDF yes.

SVG no.

George Edison

I would suggest exporting to PDF and then importing that into Gimp.

William

Done.

George Edison

Now you need to make sure the aspect ratio is 1:1.

rlemon

save link as <- there is your image broken up.

William

05:27

Thanks!

Does PNG support transparency?

rlemon

yes

William

@rlemon Thank you.

rlemon

np

William

0

A: Google+ Fan Page Logo Competition

512 by 512 without transparency, white background, PNG 200 by 200 without transparency, white background, PNG 48 by 48 without transparency, white background, PNG 44 by 44 without transparency, white background, PNG I apologize but I cannot generate an SVG with the tool that I am usin...

There it is!

Cheers

George Edison

I hate to point this out now but... Stack Exchange has a space between the "stack" and "exchange".

William

05:36

I know.

I could change it but I think it looks somehow better this way. And it would be a lot of work to change at this point.

One Zero

hi , i need a suggestion from all of you , should i update this question as newbie askubuntu.com/questions/105053/how-to-learn-linux-bits-everyday like i did

William

I officially joined Google+ Yay!

One Zero

:)

Questions Feed

05:53

Can you answer this? Mouse is choppy http://askubuntu.com/questions/104858/mouse-is-choppy #mouse

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 21, 2012 at 5:38 AM

One Zero

Ask Ubuntu Fan Page

William

ALready joined

@OneZero You see my logo?

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A: Google+ Fan Page Logo Competition

512 by 512 without transparency, white background, PNG 200 by 200 without transparency, white background, PNG 48 by 48 without transparency, white background, PNG 44 by 44 without transparency, white background, PNG I apologize but I cannot generate an SVG with the tool that I am usin...

rlemon

@William not with the xcf i provided.

William

It is with the transparency at the bottom.

rlemon

William

06:00

I am trying to put the xcf in but it keeps converting it to PNG

@rlemon One more thing: I cloned the top layer of dots in GIMP.

So there are 9 layers of dots instead.

Only reason I did that was so it would look nice in the 512 by 512.

rlemon

just center it would also work

William

I did but it had too much extra white space.

rlemon

William

Yes, add a layer of dots on top.

rlemon

40 mins ago, by rlemon

save link as <- there is your image broken up.

right click, save link as. save the .xcf file.

open it in gimp

edit away.

William

06:06

K.

rlemon

anyways.. 1am here

i gotta work in the morn.

have a good night

William

night

12 pm here

One Zero

where ?

William

minnesota

I have been unpinned! This makes me sad.

One Zero

william hurley ?

George Edison

06:56

Night all.

Octavian Damiean

07:14

likes your coding style @rlemon

htorque

07:39

*yawn*

makescoffeedeficiencyface

Octavian Damiean

Why didn't your yawn get emphasized? o_O

Morning by the way. :)

htorque

i 'escaped' the emphasizing :P

Octavian Damiean

Oh, alright. :D

Bruno Pereira

08:17

@rlemon you site cleaup script is displaying bad data!

bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/937338

my English at 2 2in the morning is worst than normal!

Octavian Damiean

What site cleanup script?

jokerdino

Do anyone have any experience submitting patches or bug fixes?

Bruno Pereira

@OctavianDamiean the one he made to show at what percentage of answered ratio we have at the moment, its showing 77% when we are at 76.68% or something :(

jokerdino

It's rounded up.

Not bad data, just inaccurate/imprecise data

Bruno Pereira

08:32

I can figure that out by myself ^^

Questions Feed

09:00

So, what is the advantage of using the terminal? http://askubuntu.com/questions/106039/so-what-is-the-advantage-of-using-the-terminal #commandline

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 21, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Amith KK

10:48

@jrg 'cmon It's a joke :D

Eren Tantekin

11:18

How do I update to the latest version of Unity? Do they have a repository for that?

I want the Unity that ships with Pangolin alpha.

Or even a later version.

Amith KK

@ErenTantekin omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/…

Eren Tantekin

@AmithKK thanks

Octavian Damiean

0

Q: What's the deal with point releases in LTS versions?

There are so called point releases for LTS versions of Ubuntu. 10.04.3 for instance. What are those releases about?

release-management lts

jokerdino

@ErenTantekin if you really want to use the latest unity version, it is highly preferable that you upgrade to precise.. mainly because of dependency problems.

@OctavianDamiean genuine question or what?

Eren Tantekin

@jokerdino Wouldn't apt-get automatically install the dependencies too? I would actually love to switch to precise but Ubuntu alphas are usually extremely buggy.

jokerdino

11:28

@ErenTantekin the problem is some packages require older dependency while some won't. You will only end up with a lot of problem doing a normal system update.

and precise is actually pretty decent. i am using it since the start of January and it has been more than usable.

Octavian Damiean

@jokerdino Personally I know what it is for, I just want to have such a canonical question around.

jokerdino

Right. Are you answering it or can I have a go at it?

Oli

Is it me or is there more random-unexplained-downvoting than usual? Or does somebody just not like me? I've had two fairly okay posts d-v'd recently without a clue on what I'm doing wrong

jokerdino

yesterday, by Bruno Pereira

down voting is just part of the game, should be useful as voting up. Voting is important, no matter in which direction. Just leave a comment explaining your reasons so the user at least has a chance to fix it.

You know why. ;)

Octavian Damiean

@jokerdino Sure, go answer it. ;)

Oli

11:33

Oh, I got an explanation this time. Hooray.

Bruno Pereira

@Oli where did you get down voted? Bastards...

Octavian Damiean

0

A: Sending mail without domain name

Is it possible this if I don't have a domain name? The sort answer is Yes. You don't need a domain name to send email and my servers regularly send me emails (through postfix - you do need a MTA) about things from their hostname and my computer does the same. I'm constantly getting emails f...

jokerdino

@OctavianDamiean a couple of answers already.

Octavian Damiean

Yup. Lekensteyn's answer is pretty good.

kingmilo

@oli , nothing personal

Questions Feed

11:43

What's the deal with point releases in LTS versions? http://askubuntu.com/questions/106159/whats-the-deal-with-point-releases-in-lts-versions #releasemanagement

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 21, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Octavian Damiean

Oh hey @JeremyBanks!

Anonymous

@OctavianDamiean Hi! Just poking around the chats.

Octavian Damiean

Ah, I was about to ask. :D

Anonymous

Yeah, alas I am not an Ubuntu user at the moment. Well, not a desktop user. I do use it for my personal VPS.

jokerdino

bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/936403

No onebox?

Octavian Damiean

11:57

Interesting.

@JeremyBanksʬʬʬ Try it out on the desktop as well! You won't regret.

jokerdino

My first attempt at bug fixing :)

Octavian Damiean

If you do, you know where you can find me. :P

@jokerdino Nice!

Why did it double-post all of your messages?

Anonymous

@OctavianDamiean I've used it on my desktop a couple of times, for a few months each. It's very nice (and fills me with FOSS-fuzzies), but OS X is hard to give up. But every time I see another story about Apple misbehaving, I feel more guilty, so I'll probably switch one day. :P

Octavian Damiean

heh

jokerdino

@OctavianDamiean First message, I forgot to add the attachment. Second one, I added a wrong one and then removed it.

Third one was a diff of the pot file, which is actually autogenerated. Then settled with patching up the hw.py

Amith KK

12:03

jokerdino

I got a good experience out of it, though. :)

Amith KK

Does it look good?

jokerdino

@AmithKK Male?

Amith KK

@jokerdino Plus, As in Google Plus

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A: Google+ Fan Page Logo Competition

512 by 512 without transparency, coloured background, PNG 200 by 200 without transparency, coloured background, PNG 48 by 48 without transparency, coloured background, PNG I will add other versions later.

jokerdino

Cool, good luck.

Amith KK

12:06

Thanks :d

*:D

Any mods around?

Oli

@AmithKK Nope

htorque

what trademark issues does the current g+ logo cause?

jokerdino

@htorque Doesn't follow the Ubuntu trademarks I think?

:)

htorque

well, how exactly? :)

Octavian Damiean

@jokerdino I wasn't it more like a problem with Stack Exchange rather than Ubuntu?

@htorque That is actually a very good question. :D

Amith KK

12:18

@jokerdino SE problems

htorque

yeah, i think it's a SE problem

jokerdino

@OctavianDamiean Not sure. I wasn't following the issue.

htorque

just reading this: stackexchange.com/legal/trademark-guidance

Amith KK

@Oli Can you edit this To fix you to your please :D

Oli

@AmithKK Done

Amith KK

12:20

\o/ Thanks

And @jrg no offence, It was a meme :D

htorque

man, all those rules... they ruin my creativity!

jokerdino

do not use your creativity.

Octavian Damiean

I'll come up with something ask well, preferably without text.

htorque

?

↑ that's it. :P

jokerdino

the logo.

htorque

12:25

maybe ?+

:D

jokerdino

Awesome!

htorque

or a combined ?+

Octavian Damiean

Sounds good. Make it a regex.

htorque

:D

Octavian Damiean

/?+/

I guess regex is a bit too geeky.

Amith KK

12:27

Actually I have updated code

Stefano Palazzo

@William yes I'm pretty sure that's too similar

Rock

What is going on?

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo So, Mine qualifies, right?

14 hours ago, by William

Competition for new Ask Ubuntu Google+ logo! More information at http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2624/google-fan-page-logo-competition

jokerdino

Is it only me or rememberthemilk.com is really down?

Stefano Palazzo

@AmithKK yes

Oli

12:33

@jokerdino The site up here

jokerdino

So, only me then.

Amith KK

@jokerdino Its up here

jokerdino

> It's just you. rememberthemilk.com is up.

The verdict is out.

Amith KK

@jokerdino Something Went Wrong Somewhere?

Octavian Damiean

What?

jokerdino

12:37

@.@

Octavian Damiean

lol

!loves acronyms

jokerdino

I probably spent more time trying to understand what that means that it could have possibly taken for you to spell it out properly.

Oh look. It is up now.

I think this design by James beats all your logos.

3

Oh wow, All my tasks on my GTG/ Rememberthemilk has been duplicated. ;@

Octavian Damiean

YES! I want that logo. :D

Amith KK

I vouch for that

Oli

Yes?

Amith KK

12:47

1 min ago, by jokerdino

I forgot to put design after this. :/

jokerdino

Soon enough, Oli will get mad.

Octavian Damiean

lol

Amith KK

Soon Enough I'll get kicked in the gravatar

Oli

Weeee

Octavian Damiean

Or just kicked. Theeeeere we go. :D

jokerdino

12:49

Yay!

> dpm> jokerdino, it can be done with a script: e.g., you could iterate through all .po files and execute 'sed' to do the substitutions. Then you could submit a new patch that includes this change in the .po files

heh, how does it look like?

Octavian Damiean

@jokerdino I looks like dpm likes you.

Amith KK

Hmm.. got an Idea, Kick me from the chat

jokerdino

@OctavianDamiean I was in talks with him for quite some time regarding Tamil translations.

So, I think he kinda knows me a bit.

Amith KK

@jokerdino #room please :D

jokerdino

@AmithKK #ubuntu-translators

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