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William

00:04

I NEED HELP RIGHT NOW

How can I import an ogg into openshot?

aking1012

why not transcode the ogg to something openshot gets along with?

i got in a fight with gtk-record and kdenlive recently and just circumvented the import/export issues by transcoding myself with ffmpeg/mencoder

William

@aking1012 Whats the easiest way to convert it?

I have a ogv and an ogg and openshot wont eat either of them.

@jrg The evils of social networking:

aking1012

I use mencoder to reindex it...the ffmpeg to transcode. Something in ogv/Swscaler has been giving ffmpeg trouble for years.

Recently I switched to ffmpeg x11grab b/c I just got too irritated about the escalating difficulty in ogv stuff.

William

You know what, I'm downloading Pitivi. I give up.

aking1012

^^this

Ogv offers great compressiong, but if none of the tools can transcode it out of the box...awesome performance becomes useless

compression

William

00:15

Yeah, but it's a heck of a lot better then wmv.

aking1012

Agreed. The best vendor sponsored media format is mov

I consider ogg/ogv to be linux sponsored media. It's not exactly accurate, but you take my point

William

Point taken.

There's WebM too.

That's for HTML5 stuff.

aking1012

/me despises webm for no good reason

William

And flash video (.flv) is aful.

aking1012

again...agreed

if i can find a way to squish whatever into mov...i do it. it streams properly with little or no plug-in pretty consistently

aking1012

00:31

does anyone that's here now work with rails?

George Edison

00:45

@jrg is our resident Ruby expert ---^

John

I was commissioned by a friend to install Ubuntu on his iMac G5. Anyone know if that's possible?

jrg

@aking1012 George was right, i'm the resident Ruby guy.

whats up?

@John It should be.

aking1012

My question is in questions...just want to know if it's too broad or if i'm just being stupid

jrg

i'm not sure I understand.

Did you already ask your Ruby questions?

aking1012

I can do deb rolling, but I'm trying to get dradis into a service

0

Q: How to get a bundler enabled rails app running as a service with upstart?

I can get some random shell script to run as a service...that's not the problem. I think it's related to environment variables given some of the google-ing I did. Either a list of required rails environment variables or a sample rails app running as a service would be helpful.

jrg

00:49

@aking1012 generally you use passenger for that.

Let me find that question... i'm pretty sure it was asked already...

aking1012

cool, if it turns out i'm just being stupid i'll delete the question myself

jrg

no don't, it'll serve as a signpost.

George Edison

Today's tech lesson: plus.google.com/109692134350783862945/posts/JhfLA1YoG1A

jrg

@aking1012 ok, i can't find the answer there.

if you don't get an answer in the next few days, i'll bounty it since we need a good answer for that. :P

aking1012

thanks...it's one of those things that should def be on askubuntu

jrg

00:53

yup.

@William actually, blocking OMG! sounds like a pretty smart thing for openDNS to do... But, you do know you can ask them on twitter about why they do that, right? @openDNS replies to just about everything.

George Edison

Restarting Chrome...

What happened to 2buntu.com ?

jrg

01:10

loads fine here.

George Edison

The sidebar is missing.

(Actually if you scroll down, it's at the bottom of the page.)

aking1012

i get it at the top in FF. possible an issue with chrome

George Edison

Possibly.

jrg

yeah, FF loads fine.

George Edison

Checks...

...oh, we're on Chrome 17 now.

jrg

01:11

loads fine in chromium

blame windows

aking1012

><

George Edison

Okay, sounds good :P

jrg

17.0.963.56 (Developer Build 121963 Linux) Ubuntu 12.04 - works fine.

aking1012

+1 to working in chromium...this is on 11.10

and full updates

jrg

weird.

aking1012

01:15

might be a packing issue. i think it's probably related to a 1px diff in interpretation of screen size. really shooting from the hip here though

sometimes a 1px size diff in packing can make some CSS styles pack from in the right lateral orientation but the wrong vertical orientation

that's my guess

jrg

oh, i think i know what happened....

i tried tinkering some of the footer PHP earlier....

Pearsonartphoto

Well, I now have my official first ever personal Ubuntu server. Just trying to figure out what I can do with it...

jrg

Setup a private sparkleshare server. Or a webserver. Or... break it because you're having so much fun.

Pearsonartphoto

I'm thinking I'm going to set up a media wiki site, and then play with SQL servers.

lazyPower

\o/ sparkleshare

jrg

01:23

@lazyPower I know, its a stupid name.

lazyPower

its better than sharepoint

jrg

but its git based so its instant awesome!!

Pearsonartphoto

I'm probably going to regret this, but what is sparkleshare?

aking1012

git based does give it an immediate +1

lazyPower

Collaboration / sharing server

jrg

01:24

@Pearsonartphoto git-based Dropbox type replacement.

no windows support though.

aking1012

as it should be...but not as is marketable

Pearsonartphoto

Hmmm.

I'm still a bit confused, but I'll try and process it a bit more...

lazyPower

You select a folder - and sync it with the server. Other people can share the folder you've synced with the server and receive real time updates as you change files, and vice versa.

Pearsonartphoto

Hmmm. Interesting, but with no Windows support at all...

It would work perfectly for my idea of having a source control server of some time...

jrg

windows support is coming, supposedly.

lazyPower

01:28

Why not just setup gitorious for that?

or dare i say it, use github :3

jrg

@lazyPower Gitolite is better. Wait, now we're going to argue over our favorite git server...

lazyPower

@jrg gtfo with that "this is better" nonsense - everybody knows that github enterprise install trumps all.

Pearsonartphoto

Honestly, the last time I delved into this stuff, CVS was state of the art. I really need to get up to date with this kind of stuff...

aking1012

MS would change an API to break github if they had to...it's just too good of a product to compete with

jrg

@lazyPower Haven't played with github enterprise, but it sounds awesome.

lazyPower

01:30

its github with your company logo and some backend statistics, dassit.

i'm trying to convince my boss to let me buy it ^.^

Pearsonartphoto

The stuff that I would like to share is not open source, at least at this point in time.

lazyPower

we have 2 private repo slots left at our $50/month plan -- i need find some crap to stuff on there so we can justify the cost.

@jrg is tracking my resume as a single private repository justifiable?

jrg

@Pearsonartphoto Doing a git server is simple.

Pearsonartphoto

I know the words not open source are practically foreign concepts to Linux folks, but...

lazyPower

@Pearsonartphoto actually, i work in a cathedral style .net shop - so its not that foreign to some of us.

jrg

01:32

And I have nothing against people not open sourcing their stuff, because there is a time and place for open source stuff, and sometimes its not that time and place. :)

Pearsonartphoto

And realize I'm being a bit sarcastic with my last remark.

jrg

@lazyPower For you? Probably not, it would technically become their property if I understand it correctly....

George Edison

Anyone ever seen this on Google before?

lazyPower

@jrg Im' game. they can have it.

Pearsonartphoto

Although, the way my Android game is going, it'd make almost as much money with me giving over complete control of it to the general public...

aking1012

01:33

I've been seeing it for some time

It's the pre-emptive compliance to non-SOPA warrants after the public outcry

jrg

@GeorgeEdison What, the DMCA or the Ask On Google+ part?

lazyPower

i just noticed the G+ asking bit earlier this week, assumed it was a fresh rollout. - and assumed thats what he was asking.

jrg

@Pearsonartphoto Here's an open source model that works - just bill them for the binary. :)

George Edison

@jrg The DMCA notice.

jrg

@GeorgeEdison I've seen it before

say it back in like, november

George Edison

01:35

@lazyPower Sorry, I meant the DMCA takedown notice, not the G+ link :)

Pearsonartphoto

Well, right now my game is only ad supported, so...

jrg

don't remember what i was looking at.

George Edison

I'm looking for a patch for a PC game - trust me, I'm not trying to download torrents for games or anything like that.

I believe that is not only wrong but hurts the developers.

aking1012

google gives you a way to complain. it's upsetting in that it lets someone say "not allowed" without consent...

lazyPower

@GeorgeEdison <3

George Edison

01:39

I need to restart. BRB.

Pearsonartphoto

Would Bazaar be a good choice for my needs? Just curious...

jrg

Bazaar would be good, you just need to figure out how to run the server.

and thats something I don't think many people know how to do...

Pearsonartphoto

It's a bit tricky I take it.

lazyPower

bzr is the defacto standard for development on ubuntu. - you cant go wrong with it.

Pearsonartphoto

Well, I'll have to wait until I finish getting Media Wiki installed...

George Edison

02:00

@lazyPower Confirmed - Bazaar is the best distributed VCS :)

lazyPower

I wouldn't go that far ;) i'm a git fanboy but i certainly dont discriminate on anyone using bzr

George Edison

Same here - I don't think any less of Git users even though I prefer Bazaar.

Both are awesome.

(I've never used Mercurial, but I assume it's awesome too.)

lazyPower

I'll yank a page from marco's book here and state - since Linus had a full hour complaint session about other version control systems, it really attracted me to git. -- very amusing to watch.

jrg

@GeorgeEdison mercurial is meh.

usable, but meh.

aking1012

the googletalk was a little amusing for both mercurial and git

George Edison

02:04

All I know is that Stack Exchange uses Mercurial - so it must have at least a little bit of awesome.

lazyPower

it was the first DVCS was it not?

jrg

Its not bad, but its still not great.

aking1012

mercurial beat git to UI imo

jrg

oh, ok, this was funny. visited myspace for the first time in forever (no i don't have an account), and they had twilight on the front page - ok, i'm out of here!!!

@lazyPower anything you want to see done in ruby? I'm not out of ideas, just looking for some from outside my head. :)

lazyPower

Actually - I have not had a chance to fully appreciate what you have posted so i'm a horrible person to ask that question. -- if you haven't gone over effectively using bundler thats a good place to start since Rails apps now pretty much exclusively use bundler gem.

jrg

02:09

Oh, good idea. bundler is a good thing thats awesome.

That's going to take a few hours to complete though...

lazyPower

I spent quite a bit of time this weekend going over how to use some of the new rails3 features because FatFreeCRM was translated from rails2 to rails3 recently - and the documentation is so stale -- i gave up and started writing my own :|

phase1 is here - blog.dasroot.net/post/crms-and-why-they-suck

jrg

so much video editing because bundle install takes forever... its like apt-get update on a dialup connection. :P

lazyPower

well, rails in itself takes a while - i was shocked to see starting the webrick server took circa 60 seconds.

jrg

You must be using rails 3.0 and ruby 1.9.2

rails 3.2 and 1.9.3 = wicked fast.

lazyPower

then again FFCRM had a dependency list of like 40 gems -- and yeah that was my combo

i was looking for stable. 1.9.3 is still fairly new isnt it?

jrg

02:11

1.9.3 is considered quasi-stable. it is backwards compatible with 1.9.2 though, i recommend using it if possible. :)

lazyPower

I'll look into it when i'm not writing a final project for school and coding my own CRM in C# :P

Maybe i can retranslate some of this CRM into a rails app this summer and cut my teeth on the language.

jrg

heh.

lazyPower

I really hate how i cant effectively work on my projects on my linux box. I realize mono has asp.net compat but still :| its nowhere near the same environment.

I shoulda found a job as a php developer smacks head

jrg

If you do rails dev this summer, let me know. Its starting to look like i might be on my own for the summer, in which case i'll be building that chat.SE clone and my ~~online dating~~ speed lunch consulting service. ;)

lazyPower

I doubt you'll be on your own this summer. Theres enough AU work to go around.

aking1012

02:14

speed lunch consulting...hilarious

jrg

That makes me both joyful and at the same time sad. :P

@aking1012 basic idea: Buy me lunch, I give you an hours worth of consulting. boom, happy developer, better product, free food for me. :P

lazyPower

@jrg I'm fairly over extended in practice - if you want rails apps to help with - i should put you in touch with Jesse Dearing - the full stack casts proprietor. He's a ruby ninja and has quite a few projects he's over extended in

scrummageapp.com is one of his finer works of art.

jrg

@lazyPower I've got my hands full with rubycasts. ;) i've got 9 ideas, not including yours. just need to write them up in detail. :)

lazyPower

flowcharts ftw

I'm such a sucker for pretty diagrams

Man i love how responsive this framework is - @jrg i owe you a soda for pointing me to bootstrap. You've cut my front end work in twain

jrg

Heh. :D

Speaking of which, I need to make rubycasts responsive… and while i'm at it, might as well get those changes pushed upstream to jekyll bootstrap. (:

Open source For. The. Win!!

lazyPower

02:24

Truth

George Edison

02:47

HEY!!

Bootstrap would be awesome for my home page.

I've needed to redo it for some time.

lazyPower

Indeed

The only tech i've seen that rivals bootstrap is Compass and SASS - ruby based but it generates cross browser compliant CSS3 markup - and has quite a few extras. So if you're feeling spunky - you can drop your own evolutionary framework in just 30 minutes.

manning.com/netherland -- sass40 discount code will save you 40% off the book.

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William

03:02

@jrg You avalible!

I has a long history with computers and parents.

Anyone know when @AmithKK tends to join?

How long do I have to wait?

@jrg Why does blocking OMG sound smart?

nitstorm

@William He's probably at his school right now, it's 8.40am here in India, he usually gets online in the evening around 4 pm... but never know.. he might be here sooner too :)

William

8 and a half hours- I cant stay up that late. But thanks for the info though.

Thats 5 30 am here :(

And I wont be awake for it.

nitstorm

@William oh.. :(

jrg

03:27

Blocking OMG! is smart on many levels - while I respect many of the people behind OMG!, the way they partnered with nixiepixel put them in my semi permanent bad books.

lazyPower

not judging, but whats your beef with nixie?

William

I dont know what you mean. What's wrong with Nixie?

jrg

Not her personally, but rather the way she presents herself and the way the tech community views her.

William

►

This what you mean?

lazyPower

Ah, she is fairly edgy. I see that.

jrg

03:32

We complain and comment that there aren't many women in tech, and then just read a few of her YouTube comments. :\

(granted, YouTube commenters aren't the greatest specimens of the human race, but still…)

</end-rant>

William

I'm trying to find some of her comments.

lazyPower

To speak into that though - she uses that to further her cause. If 80% of the fanbase is cruft gaming geeks & trolls - and 10% geek females - at least its progressively telling other women its okay to be a geek.

William

I quote: " For those of you who are asking about my photoshoot, I have posted a sexy preview pic on my Facebook. Simply "Like" the NixiePixel page to view it. ♥"

Point taken, @jrg.

nitstorm

@William ROFL :P

William

But, how does OMG UBUntu relate to nixiepixel?

@nitstorm:)

And this is coming from a 13 year old.

That makes it even worse.

nitstorm

03:36

alright boys, punching out now, see y'all in approximately 12 hours :)

jrg

@lazypower correct. But, they should be geeks, and geeks alike - and the guys shouldn't make a distinction between them.

nitstorm

@William LOL LOL :P

William

See ya!

Get some sleep. Sleep some for me :)

lazyPower

@jrg Thats one view - remember that humanity comes with many hats.

jrg

@william they partnered for some videos a few months ago. thats how it relates.

William

03:37

OK.

►

lazyPower

The neutral grey area that we like to paint on everything is not the definitive answer to everything community related. - without getting forceful in my ideas or trolling - thats all i'll say on it.

William

Well, at least she got the Unicorn thing right.

jrg

Should probably just stop this here (now that we've explained ourselves), since otherwise we'll be up all night arguing. ;)

William

Yep.

lazyPower

William

03:39

I'm not arguing thoughg.

jrg

@William True that.

William

@jrg You sound like my social studies teacher.

Well, troo tat!

Anyway, me has long history with parents and cmputers.

Got first computer when I was 8, running Windows 98.

My dad had to reformat the thing three times in the first two weeks.

jrg

Yeah you mentioned you had a history.

William

He tried 7 different parental control programs.

None worked.

The last one he tried was called "Child Proof".

George Edison

@jrg Are you familiar with configuring translations on Launchpad?

William

03:44

I spent all morning trying to get rid of it.

George Edison

@William Why did you try to get rid of it?

jrg

@GeorgeEdison Never touched them.

William

My dad, thinking that he had won, sent the program's creator a 50 dollar check.

George Edison

@jrg I'll ask over on #launchpad.

William

That evining after the check had been mailed, I banged my head against the keyboard in frustration.

jrg

03:46

@William Look - ill tell you from experience, your parents will win. And when they do, you'll be screwed until you move out. Trust me on this.

William

It gave me a dialog saying "Thanks, you have now turned Child Mode off. Remember you can switch between Windows and Child mode by pressing Ctrl Shift P. Epic Win.

GO PEN TESTING!

@jrg No - they wont. I've got back track on my side.

@GeorgeEdison Why would I try to get rid of it? This is quoting from thier websiite:

Child Proof: Child Proof is a program that protect your computer from children by accident pressing wrong buttons or key. It hides all windows, the toolbar at the bottom and the desktop and replaces it by a toolbar with programs you allow your child to execute. This avoids most problems when children use the computer. The default exit key to exist from the locked screen is CTRL + ALT + Shift + P. This combination can also be changed in Options. Child Proof is unable to disable the power button and CD/DVD eject key but it can allow programs such as games to be played.

George Edison

Lol. How do you vote in this case?

William

Ctrl alt SHIFT P. My bad.

jrg

@William I can't go into details on my experience, but trust me - they will win. They will win by taking your computer away and running it over with a car/physically destroying it. Also, while you might not understand now, there is a method to their madness.

William

Like Facebook Parenting for the troubled teen?

jrg

03:51

@George Remind me to run for cooking mod this year. ;)

George Edison

Lol... - you can't lose.

jrg

@Williak pretty much.

William

@jrg Look, I get that they just want to help. That's great. But, I have a definite talent for computers and I want to develop it like any other talent. Getting around thier barricades only proves my skill. If I want to go practice sports, they don't have any problem with that, in fact, they encourage me to develop my talents. Why should the computer be any different?

George Edison

@William I feel for you - but strongly disagree. I had an apt for computers from a young age as well (writing compilers at 14 / 15) and found that when I used it within the parameters my parents set out for me, things worked out well.

jrg

Anyway, I've warned you all I can, and I can't like, ban you from the Internet or something, so you and your parents need to work this out. I'm not going to say anything more on this topic since I've probably said more than enough.

George Edison

03:55

Yeah, I'm done too.

Either take our advice or leave it - but there are consequences to ignoring it.

jrg

And lastly, I'm on low battery, so good night.

William

But what if I think the set parameters are unreasonable?I can only use the computer for an hour a day on staurday and sunday ifI have all A's no missings and all homework done. I think it;s unreasonable.

#jrg Goodnight.

George Edison

@William I had almost the exact same restrictions (at a certain age), so...

If you think it's unreasonable, then talk to them calmly and explain why you think it is unreasonable.

jrg

@William but, if you have a change in mind, you have my email and I'm more than happy to help if you want me to.

George Edison

This time I am done.

William

03:58

Ok Then I won't even bother.

George Edison

Still waiting for an answer on #launchpad...

rlemon

when I was younger my parents punished me for this and that. however during my punishments they would allow me to use the computer (without the internet) if I wanted to program. but that was only because I convinced them programming was educational and progressive towards a career.

George Edison

</child_behavior_advice>

rlemon

and it was under the strict pretence that programming was what I was actually doing.

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