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Rinzwind

16:00

@edwinksl we need shotguns.

REVERSING EDIT ->

askubuntu.com/posts/873265/revisions

edwinksl

@Rinzwind woah that escalated quickly

Rinzwind

@edwinksl typical american response :=) -> an animal bugs you get a shotgun

terdon

@Rinzwind Wow. Not only do you blithely pass the blame on to someone else (you're the one who mentioned shotguns!), you also go and call a diamond moderator an "animal".

I just hope you meant Boris.

Rinzwind

@terdon "no glaring pls, dino with short arms" <- dino = animal

terdon

Aaaaah!

Rinzwind

16:05

:P

eh

terdon

Still, everything I said stands. You did pass the blame for something you brought up and you did call a mod an animal. That the particular mod in question happens to be an animal only makes it slightly better.

Rinzwind

SETHY!

Serg

grrr, i hate it when there's a question i can answer , but I'm on a goddamn train and have no access to my tools atm

@Rinzwind no Sethes around, only Serges

Thomas Ward

and an evil demon lord of doom

>:D

Serg

@ThomasWard who's also a fluffy bunny im disguise :3

Rinzwind

16:08

@Serg that was an outcry for help >:)

Thomas Ward

@Serg s/bunny/hell hound/

Serg

@ThomasWard ok, close enough, lel

also . . . gotdammit, dev boards for academia are eggspensive

I need a board that is like 175$ for students. For non academic folks it's 225$ or so.

at least i feel less bad about spending on a board than on a textbook

Rinzwind

I love man page answers <3

Eliah Kagan

I just noticed we have both virtual-terminal and virtual-console, and neither is a synonym of the other. I suggest virtual-terminal be the main tag since that seems to be a little more popular, judging by searches of the site (either through the the built-in search engine or through Google) for "virtual terminal" and "virtual console". I think it doesn't really matter much, though.

cl-netbox

16:32

@Rinzwind I know ... you once said that they bring you many upvotes ... :D

terdon

@EliahKagan Sounds good to me. I don't have time to do it now though, could you please post in on meta?

That's a good idea anyway since it leaves an audit trail, so to speak.

Eliah Kagan

Yes, I'm going afk for a bit now but I'll post about it soon.

karel

virtual-console is less confusing than virtual-terminal if for no other reason than that it looks more like a console than a terminal.

Serg

17:03

I'm finally on my laptop , yasssss !!!

Eliah Kagan

@karel I don't really follow, but can you expand on that in an answer when I post on meta?

TheXed

17:19

hi

Serg

Oh, this is bad, very bad @_@ my lower back is hurting today

semester just started, it's too early for chiropractor visits

Thomas Ward

@Serg lies it is never too early for that

Serg

T_T

TheXed

@Serg lay on your stomach...

very practical and it works...

Thomas Ward

@Serg lay on your stomach, and prepare yourself. There will be a fix for your back incoming.

Just lie there and relax...

... and prepare.

TheXed

17:28

@ThomasWard it could just be muscle...in that case prepare for what?

Thomas Ward

pulls out a taser and a hammer

Oh, nothing really, just some adjustments that need to be done

TheXed

No if it something more serious then that then...yeah he might want to prepare...

lol

Thomas Ward

in other news, @KazWolfe has a lot to learn about being chill and being a moderator at the same time lol

runs and hides

edwinksl

?

Eliah Kagan

@terdon I've posted on meta.

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Q: These tags are [virtual-]ly the same!

Right now we have separate virtual-console and virtual-terminal tags. One should be made a synonym of the other, but which one should be the master tag? We have another question on meta about this, posted well over a year ago, but it has languished unanswered and also seems like it's asking abou...

terdon

17:34

And then some! Thanks :)

Serg

@TheXed @ThomasWard I'm at work. I can't just lie down anywhere

Also, anybody wanna read my poem about awk and python ?

Actually , wait . . .no

karel

@EliahKagan Yeah sure, I can or anyone else can post it in Meta. The console looks like a server login which looks like a console. It may be a petty distinction, but just the same it may also help new users to keep it straight.

Serg

Feck, feck, I fecked it yup

I misunderstood OP's question. Fixed now

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Q: These tags are [virtual-]ly the same!

Right now we have separate virtual-console and virtual-terminal tags. One should be made a synonym of the other, but which one should be the master tag? We have another question on meta about this, posted well over a year ago, but it has languished unanswered and also seems like it's asking abou...

discussion tags tag-synonyms

Serg

@terdon Perl review pls ? unix.stackexchange.com/a/338382/85039

Can I simplify that any more ?

Ah, feck again . . . double quotes in wrong place

terdon

17:49

@Serg a little:

perl -ne 'chomp; open($fh,$_) or die; print "$_\n\"\"\n";while($line = <$fh>){ print $line}' filenames.txt

karel

@EliahKagan I decided to post it anyway. Now I'm going to get to hear the story of the blind men and an elephant, but it still looks like a console to me.

Eliah Kagan

:) Thanks for posting. I think of a command-line interface as a terminal rather than a console, which may be why I didn't understand you initially. I don't think I have any particularly strong reason for thinking of it one way and not the other, though.

terdon

@Serg or, you could simplify a lot:

perl -le 'do{print `cat $_`,"\"\"";} for <>' file

Serg

Uh . . . that's probably way above my head

Anyway, answer fixed, in format as OP wants

So yay, everything is smexy and as it should be

@terdon add print $_ before do{..} :) OP wants to have filenames included in output

terdon

@Serg Thanks, I'd missed that. I added an explanation as well. It's not as weird as it looks, the only new thing really is the do {} for @list

Rinzwind

18:05

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Q: Migrating system to new machine

I have been trying to follow the instructions of the top answer here: link but there are a number of things I don't understand. (Both machines are Ubuntu 15.10 64bit) Use scp or rsync or even a flash drive to transfer your home directory (~/, ~/.), the source list (/etc/apt/sources.list) an...

migration

he keeps pm' ing me :X

Serg

@terdon AHA ! That's like list comprehension or map() in python ! smexy :D

terdon

@Serg Yes, perl also has map{}. But do{}for is preferred syntactically because map{} is designed to actually modify the array it is mapped to. Practically, it makes absolutely no difference and do{something} for @list is equivalent to map{something}@list but I've been yelled at by more experienced people.

But no, sadly, not like list comprehension. That is, I must admit, an absolutely awesome feature of Python.

Thomas Ward

@Rinzwind should be handled now

moderator diamonds scare people

terdon

I mean, you can't do @newList = [ $x for $x in @oldlist ] or anything like that in Perl. Not to my knowledge, anyway.

@ThomasWard OP is on 15.10, not 6!

Thomas Ward

updated

now silence mortal.

bleh i broke spf

screw it

Eliah Kagan

18:14

@ThomasWard The OP's using 6.06? Their post says 15.10. (Which is also EoL of course, but your comment is about 6.06. Am I missing something?)

Thomas Ward

@EliahKagan already resolved

see previous four messages, I already revised

if they complain, it'll get squished.

terdon

What in the world is a failsafe shell, anyway?

Thomas Ward

evil

Serg

@terdon how's this then ?

$ perl -e  '@list = ( 1, 2, 3   );do{push @newlist, $_ + 1} for @list;do{print $_,"\n"}for @newlist'
2
3
4

probably still not close enough to list comprehension ?

terdon

Fair enough, that'll work.

I meant that it doesn't have that nifty list = [ x for x in list if x >10 ] thing.

Rinzwind

18:18

:)

terdon

Although you can usually do it with grep. perl's grep is really powerful. Checkout perldoc -f grep

    grep BLOCK LIST
    grep EXPR,LIST
            This is similar in spirit to, but not the same as, grep(1) and its
            relatives. In particular, it is not limited to using regular
            expressions.

            Evaluates the BLOCK or EXPR for each element of LIST (locally
            setting $_ to each element) and returns the list value consisting
            of those elements for which the expression evaluated to true. In
            scalar context, returns the number of times the expression was

"not limited (!) to using regular expressions"

Serg

But we can approximate it

$ perl -e  '@list = ( 1, 2, 3   );do{if ($_ >= 2){push(@newlist, $_ + 1)} } for @list;do{print $_,"\n"}for @newlist'
3
4

terdon

Oh, yes, of course. it's just the syntax I like in python. Especially for things like

list = [ x for x in otherList if somefunction(x) or otherFunct(x) and oneMorething(x) ]

It doesn't make up for significant whitespace, but that, at least, is useful!

:P

Serg

That syntax was confusing the heck out of me when I just started doing python.

But it is indeed quite elegant

terdon

@Serg Me too.

But yeah, it's grown on me.

Serg

20:08

Feck, I need a blog

Nathan Osman

I've got too many.

If you want to write for a blog without going through the trouble of starting one, 2buntu is always welcoming new contributors.

Bonus: we already have quite a few pageviews in a day, so your first posts will be more popular than if you started one yourself.

Zacharee1

Wow, I didn't realize Unifi had remote control by default

That's pretty great. I just hope they have Mac software, since that's the only always on computer at my mom's

Serg

any grep experts ?

Need help to unravel absolutely bizarre mystery: unix.stackexchange.com/q/338423/85039

@NathanOsman as long as it's accessible in China

Nathan Osman

@Serg greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=2buntu.com

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman I considered that once too, but then dropped the thought again because I have no idea what to write about.

Nathan Osman

20:18

Anything Ubuntu or even Linux-related.

Byte Commander

However, that top article by Roland there is interesting about WOT addon.

I did not know that...

Oha.

2buntu.com/articles/1577/…

purging addon

I'm just noticing that I have way too many add-ons, athough half of them is disabled.

Nathan Osman

Yeah, that one was interesting.

Byte Commander

This browser needs a thorough cleaning.

Serg

20:41

my whole system needs a cleaning. I've way too many files, like test.txt and input.txt

Byte Commander

yeah, those stack up in my home folder too... ^_^

I actually even made a ~/sandbox folder for such script testing, but half of the times I forget to use it

Serg

21:34

@NathanOsman welp, I joined in :D

edwinksl

@NathanOsman nice blog

will be nice to see some AU folks write some longform things

Thomas Ward

21:49

derps

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard what did you do this time

Thomas Ward

spicy food... it makes me breathe fire.

Kaz Wolfe

how spicy is spicy?

Thomas Ward

*exhales, and incinerates the chair next to him*

that spicy

Kaz Wolfe

i mean, is that like "ghost pepper" spicy or "sweet bbq" spicy?

Thomas Ward

21:51

super ultra atomic ghost pepper spicy

with the nuclear fireball that backs up the spicy

Nathan Osman

@Serg welcome!

I get automatically emailed when you submit an article so it will be approved and published quickly :)

Best part: articles are written in Markdown.

Byte Commander

If I only had some inspiration and slightly more free time, I could maybe post some articles every now and then too...

The tutorials category hasn't seen any love for years.

edwinksl

who approves the articles?

Serg

My energy is going low -___-

Seth

@ByteCommander Wow! I'm glad I never got around to installing that add-on again.

Thomas Ward

22:04

o/ @Seth

Seth

yo

Thomas Ward

how goes it

Byte Commander

@Serg brain or battery?

My battery is full, and so is my to-do list, but the brain...

I can't finish preparing that stupid presentation today.

TheXed

Sup?

Byte Commander

Sdown.

TheXed

22:09

hah

Civ 5 80 seconds and in game.

►

Serg

@ByteCommander Battery isn't the problem - it's charging right now. The brain , however, just feels like it's steadily growing more and more tired. I'm slowly trying to fix my sleep and transition into the classes/work schedule , but it's slightly painful

Byte Commander

same here

Anybody volunteering to write a "towers of hanoi" solver for me in C?

TheXed

@ByteCommander nope, no chance.

Byte Commander

well, me neither... :-/

Thomas Ward

@ByteCommander No. Here's a box of random bytes, put these together to create such a solver.

Byte Commander

22:17

That box didn't ship here yet...

Serg

@ByteCommander I would volunteer, I like C :D how much time do I have and what's the requirements ?

TheXed

I don't even know what towers of Hanoi is, so I think I am uniquely disqualified...

Serg

@TheXed that ^

Byte Commander

It's due in 10h 40min.

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander bubblesort?

Byte Commander

22:20

And we may neither use arrays nor pointers.

wat?

Videonauth

Tower of Hanoi

The Tower of Hanoi (also called the Tower of Brahma or Lucas' Tower, and sometimes pluralized) is a mathematical game or puzzle. It consists of three rods, and a number of disks of different sizes which can slide onto any rod. The puzzle starts with the disks in a neat stack in ascending order of size on one rod, the smallest at the top, thus making a conical shape. The objective of the puzzle is to move the entire stack to another rod, obeying the following simple rules: Only one disk can be moved at a time. Each move consists of taking the upper disk from one of the stacks and placing it on top...

Byte Commander

How do you get to bubblesort?

I also think I already found a beautiful (and especially short) elegant piece of code dailyfreecode.com/code/tower-hanoi-1146.aspx

Kaz Wolfe

oh, wait, no i'm stupid.

and eww, recursion.

Serg

That's in C++ though

Kaz Wolfe

wait, why are you not allowed to use arrays?

Byte Commander

22:22

Who cares, the algorithm is the same. I just replace the io stuff with stdio.h and done.

TheXed

@ByteCommander Oh, I guess I do know what that is...

Byte Commander

Because we did not learn about arrays and pointers yet.

I should just try to understand how that solution works, at least..

Kaz Wolfe

you're doing towers of hanoi without arrays.

rip you

Byte Commander

You learn to love recursion.

Kaz Wolfe

hm. you can solve this in O(1) time.

(if you want to cheat)

Byte Commander

22:25

We learned Lisp (Racket Scheme to be exact) as well, there you must use recursion.

Once you're used to it, you appreciate it.

Serg

@ByteCommander actually that solution is on wikipedia too

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Hanoi And written in sort-of python function

Search for def move(n, source, target, auxiliary)

Byte Commander

Oh hey, there is an AWK solution for it on Rosettacode @Serg

$ awk 'func hanoi(n,f,t,v){if(n>0){hanoi(n-1,f,v,t);print(f,"->",t);hanoi(n-1,v,t,f)}}
BEGIN{hanoi(4,"left","middle","right")}'

Serg

@ByteCommander :D yay, and it's recursive too

Byte Commander

rosettacode.org/wiki/Towers_of_Hanoi

Kaz Wolfe

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Q: Tower of hanoi solver

For reference as to what the tower of Hanoi is, either Google it or look on the Wikipedia page. Your code should be able to do 2 things, and they are the following: Accept user input that specifies the number of discs at the starting point of the Hanoi tower Create output in a fashion of your ...

code-golf stack

Byte Commander

22:35

Oh cool. I'll hand in this:

n;
h(d){n--&&h(d^d%16*16,printf("%02x ",d,h(d^d/16))),n++;}
main(){scanf("%d",&n);h(19);}

need to add includes though

(of course I won't, just kidding)

Serg

Your professor will be like "OMGWTFBBQ?"

Kaz Wolfe

CheapHanoi (Solves in O(1) time):

Videonauth

@ByteCommander yuo could make it a one liner ;)

Kaz Wolfe

given an input of pegs in form [n, 0, 0], where n is the peg count.

return [0, 0, input[0]]

aka, moving all the disks at once.

Serg

I fackin' hate slap-n-slide type of greetings

Kaz Wolfe

22:38

@Serg wat

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe violates the rule that only one disk may be moved at a time :P

Serg

@KazWolfe you know when you meet someone and instead of handshake you slap hands and slide away ?

Byte Commander

When I'm about to shake hands with somebody, most times it ends weirdly.

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander don't care, i want my O(1)

Serg

I hate it, because i never know what to do with those. Handshakes are far more simpler

Kaz Wolfe

22:41

you need to do an explosion effect

Byte Commander

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, probably I'm too slow. Other people sometimes close their hand while mine isn't in place yet, so they basically shake my fingers only...

Or when somebody offers the hand and you are not sure whether to shake it low (thumb around hand), shake it high (thumb around thumb), make some sort of high 5 or knock the fist...

Serg

I need to get 5 more goats on U&L for rep cap . . . yet I don't see any cool questions so far

Kaz Wolfe

Dvorak words may sound hard to pronounce, but studies show they actually put less stress on the vocal chords.

5

Zacharee1

lol

@Seth the Sky Sailing music is pretty nice

Kaz Wolfe

linguists, find the E!

Zacharee1

22:51

wut

Kaz Wolfe

you can solve any simple substitution cipher by finding "E"

Zacharee1

oh

Kaz Wolfe

almost everything else falls into place pretty fast

Zacharee1

I guess U or D

but I don't wanna bother trying

back to CVs

Kaz Wolfe

only 275 of them

Zacharee1

22:52

only 20 today

Videonauth

OT:askubuntu.com/q/873515/522934

Zacharee1

already done

edwinksl

23:10

shocking

Kaz Wolfe

@edwinksl Three-phase AC?

Zacharee1

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Eliah Kagan

@Videonauth I've cast the final close vote. ...About your comment, though, are you sure posting a question on another SE site after it's immediately closed is really discouraged? I've never heard of that, we tell people to post on another SE site all the time when closing their questions and rarely mention migration, AU's official off-topic message mentions the other sites without saying to migrate, and moderators would be burdened with an awful lot of work if people followed such a rule.

Videonauth

@EliahKagan Please do not cross-post, flag your answer instead for moderator attention if you wish it to be migrated there. Thank you – Videonauth 21 mins ago

not sure if you really have read my comment?

Kaz Wolfe

migration is normally better, but it doesn't really matter, does it?

i mean, migration is definitely a lot slower, so if someone needs help fast, it's better to just cross-post and delete one

Eliah Kagan

23:16

I did read your comment, and I have re-read it entirely as well as the excerpt you've just posted. I still don't understand how that addresses what I am saying. Are you telling the OP not to immediately post the question on Unix.SE, or not?

Videonauth

@EliahKagan it is not discuraged, well just my little assumption for cleanlyness tho, why having a closed junk here in the DB if it can be valuable elsewhere?

and @KazWolfe i guess youre right, migration is slower so for urgent questionsthis is not feasible.

Kaz Wolfe

i mean, unless you have a couple bored mods ready...

otherwise, migration is kinda broken tbh

Eliah Kagan

The problem is that your comment has the effect of telling the OP that it is site or network policy. I don't know if you intend that or not, but I am sure that is how most newcomers would interpret what you have said. And I still cannot tell if you believe that it is site policy, but if you do then I am hoping you can provide a reference, and if you don't then I am hoping you will not just leave that comment as it stands.

Videonauth

well first time in over a year that im using the commetn and someone complains about, but well if you feel better i can remove it

and no ots not a policy, maybe its missing language skills on my side, i wwanted to just point out that cross posting is being frowned upon, at least between U&L and AU

Kaz Wolfe

@Videonauth If you keep both up.

If you delete one (like the one on AU), nobody cares.

Videonauth

23:22

@KazWolfe and then it is not cross posting ;)

Kaz Wolfe

That being said, migrations should only be flagged for actual good questions that would survive on this site if it were on-topic. Then, it's a waiting game. If you mention this to OP, it's really a race -- do mods migrate it or does OP repost in the right place?

If migrations were simple and fast, then yeah, I'd see a reason to discourage cross-posting in order to facilitate migration. Unfortunately, migrations are broken af, so just let OP do whatever. If OP wants to wait, they can. If they want to take care of it themselves, they can.

Videonauth

Not sure im not trackign questions forever but many have been migrated or deleted

Kaz Wolfe

you're 10k, right?

Videonauth

i now deleted my comment, for now and think about how to reword it to accomodate that @EliahKagan, thank you for your intput on this

@KazWolfe yep

Kaz Wolfe

@Videonauth askubuntu.com/tools/posts/migrated/stats

Migration statistics.

i'm not sure why AU doesn't have any migration targets, though (cc @Seth)

Thomas Ward

23:28

@KazWolfe because it was decided an eternity ago to let mods handle migrations

Videonauth

i remeber that there aven is a meta post about it @KazWolfe it should be even within the first few pages on meta here

William

anyone around?

Thomas Ward

i think tested for some time, but it ended up with too many rejects

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard oh, hi.

Thomas Ward

@William only the Evil Demon (me) and its minions

@William i'm joking, 'sup

William

23:28

@ThomasWard would this be better posted here superuser.com/questions/1169003/…

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard well, people aren't following the "don't migrate crap" rule, are they? Why not put an (additional) rep limit for migration?

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe No, people weren't.

@William It fits in at either location

U&L and Ask Ubuntu have significant overlap when it comes to Ubuntu

Kaz Wolfe

hey, @ThomasWard, 10k question. How do I see which questions were closed for which custom reason?

William

does anyone have any idea where such a setting would be stored?

Eliah Kagan

@William Could you add more details to the question? My guess is that this is for GNOME Terminal or something where by default Ctrl+Shift+C copies and Ctrl+Shift+V pastes, so as not to interfere with ^C and ^V, but I'm not sure how apparent that is for the question. It seems to me that it should be able to get a good answer either place, and the main thing is making sure it has enough information so people will know they can answer it.

Kaz Wolfe

23:31

someone closed something as this, which is blatantly wrong:

> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it asks for a hardware recommendation, which is off topic on all Stackexchange.

Videonauth

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Q: Migration Paths?

Migration paths allow for questions to be moved from Ask Ubuntu to other sites in the Stack Exchange network. The idea is that rather than simply closing questions as being "off-topic", then the questions can be moved to be the correct Q&A website. These could allow us to keep our site on topic ...

discussion feature-request migration

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Q: Activate migration paths to Unix and Linux, should we?

First of all, lets remember the golden rule of the migrations: DO NOT MIGRATE CRAP That said, why don't we open the migration paths from AU and UL? There has been 10 migrations to UL in the last 90 days, here the stats: The migration to UL has been rejected lately, which has been norma...

discussion feature-request migration

terdon

@Videonauth I should probably delete my answer there. My position has changed since becoming a mod here and getting a better idea of how much crap would actualy be migrated were we to open the path.

Thomas Ward

@terdon

3 mins ago, by William

@ThomasWard would this be better posted here http://superuser.com/questions/1169003/terminal-switch-shiftctrlc-and-ctrlc

your thoughts

since you're mod at both U&L and here

GIVE

William

@EliahKagan I rarely use the Ctrl+C command but copy a lot so I would simply like to switch the to so Ctrl+C copies and Ctrl+Shift+C executes Ctrl+C to the terminal?

Videonauth

@terdon yeah well i just did a quick search those are the two top results

on the other hand if people post it anyways over there its as good as migrated ;)

Eliah Kagan

23:33

What terminal program are you using? (Or if you're not sure but it's the default with your Ubuntu flavor, what Ubuntu flavor?)

Kaz Wolfe

I don't see the problem if people just don't migrate crap.

And not automatically migrate anything that mentions "mint"

William

@EliahKagan default which I believe is gnome whatever comes with ubuntu by default I will check 1 sec

Eliah Kagan

Yeah, that should be GNOME Terminal.

terdon

@ThomasWard It's on topic where it is, so there's no reason to move it. Also, it really doesn't have much useful information so it isn't a very good question (no offense @William). If it were edited to specify what terminal is being used and to clarify what the issue with the shortcuts is, then it would be welcome on either Unix & Linux or here. However, the 2nd rule of migration is we don't migrate away things that are on topic.

Eliah Kagan

Does this help?

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Q: Making Ctrl+C copy text in gnome-terminal?

Is it possible for me to make Ctrl+C perform a copy command if there is highlighted text in the terminal? Otherwise, it should retain its normal behavior. (If there is a terminal that can do this other than gnome-terminal, that's probably fine too.)

gnome-terminal clipboard

William

23:35

@EliahKagan yes except how do I trigger Ctrl+C in applications then

cmd like applications

terdon

I've never understood why people don't just select text with the mouse to copy (@William, in case you don't know, simply selecting text automatically copies, no need for any keyboard shortcut, and the middle button pastes).

William

yes I am aware of yank

Serg

@terdon touchpads

William

^

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon wait, what?

terdon

23:36

?

Kaz Wolfe

i don't think i've seen that behavior honestly.

terdon

Even with a touchpad, all you need to do is select. You have to select anyway if you're to use a keyboard shortcut to copy and all touchpads have either a middle button or 2 buttons, so you can click them both together to paste.

Videonauth

@terdon @thoma any thoughts about thise auto comment text Im using?

Welcome to Ask Ubuntu! I'm sorry but this is not about Ubuntu and therefore off topic since other distributions mostly have different approaches about how to handle things we cant support that, so you might be better off asking your question on Unix & Linux. Please do not cross-post, flag your answer instead for moderator attention if you wish it to be migrated there. Thank you

Serg

Yeah, but the touchpads aren't exactly comfortable

Thomas Ward

ask terdon, i'm busy

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Serg

23:37

@Videonauth use [ unix.se ] for quick links

terdon

@KazWolfe Just select something and then middle click. It will be pasted. This is very, very old behavior. I know I've seen it since 98-99 when I first started using Linux and I'm pretty sure it is as old as the mouse.

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon middle-click? not ctrl-v?

terdon

@KazWolfe Yeah

Kaz Wolfe

okay, that's why i didn't notice it. i tend to not middle click.

Videonauth

@Serg i think that got lost while copy&pasting

Kaz Wolfe

23:38

and if just selecting text in my terminal replaced my ctrl-v, i would probably be very mad.

terdon

@Videonauth Looks good. I'd just add a full stop (.) after how to handle things.

Serg

[ unix.se ] without extra spaces turns into Unix & Linux

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg code formatting, m8. [unix.se]

Eliah Kagan

@William Well Ctrl+C already does copy in almost all applications other than terminal emulators. When you change the key bindings in GNOME Terminal, that shouldn't affect that. (This is if I understand enzotib's answer properly. I don't actually have GNOME Terminal handy to check right now. I mostly use Lubuntu with LXTerminal.)

Serg

@KazWolfe 2lazy4me

Videonauth

23:39

@terdon im asking becasue i put a remark about migration in it and eliah found that a bit over the top

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg it's the same number of keystrokes.

terdon

@KazWolfe No, selecting copies. Middle click pastes. This is completely separate from the Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V, it uses a separate clipboard. All Linux (probably all *nix) systems have these two separate clipboards.

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon ah. well, it doesn't interfere with my Ctrl-CV clipboard, so i don't care :D

but TIL.

i might end up using that.

terdon

@Videonauth Shrugs It's true that it's usually simpler to just tell them to delete and repost it on the other site.

Kaz Wolfe

(And migration can take literally forever, and it might not even get migrated.)

We can't be responsible for OP posting crap, but we don't need to migrate it.

terdon

23:41

@KazWolfe I can't live without it. If I can't have select to copy and focus under mouse, I freak out

Serg

ah. well, it doesn't interfere with my Ctrl-CV clipboard, so i don't care :D
but TIL.

Kaz Wolfe

why did i just try that in windows

terdon

Wow. I find it so much more comfortable than Ctrl+c/V

Serg

Highlight , and hit right and left click on touchpad, or middle click on windows

Eliah Kagan

@terdon My concern is that it communicates that it is a site or network policy that if you post on one SE site and it's immediately closed OT, then you have to wait for it to get migrated, and cannot simply post it on the other site. I don't believe that actually is the policy. Having questions open or otherwise active on multiple sites is what we don't want, right?

terdon

23:42

Indeed.

Videonauth

well i guess I'll reword it then is best

terdon

No, you're right, suggesting migration is not necessarily the best thing. It's fine if someone else flags for migration, but it's much simpler for everyone involved (both the mods and the OP) if the question is just deleted and reposted.

Kaz Wolfe

Mods don't need to fix OP's mistake, basically.

William

i do not link the yank and put(or whatever they are called) for exactly that reason because they are replaced

on text select

Kaz Wolfe

OP is a big boy. OP can fix his own things.

Eliah Kagan

23:44

@Videonauth Yeah, I think if it's modified to tell people that they can either post it somewhere else or ask for it to be migrated (but not both), then that could be helpful. So long as the comment is only used for stuff that looks worth migrating.

Kaz Wolfe

o/ @Seth, welcome

Seth

hi

Kaz Wolfe

question, would this q be a good protect candidate?

Seth

I got tired of trying to do VMWare+Word stuff on my laptop display so I "stole" a monitor from a desktop no one seemed to be using. Hopefully no one actually is using it.

@KazWolfe No. None of the deleted answers are "me too", "thanks", or the like. I'm not even sure all of those should be deleted.

Videonauth

@EliahKagan well its an auto script im using to insert those comments , so im not feeling like a tape recorder typing the same thing over and over again, but still being nice enough to let people know beforehand if a question is going to get closed , i really appreciate the feedback here, i guess i will word two versions, one fro content which took a long time to create and list (worth migrating) and one for the crap (not worth migrating) will be the solution here for my side

Seth

23:47

@KazWolfe it's been discussed on meta a bunch of times. Do a quick search.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth got it. Nobody really explained what I should and shouldn't protect, so I'm left guessing.

Seth

> Questions should be protected when they are garnering lots of views and newbies are adding "me too!", "thanks!" and possibly even spam non-answers.

from the help center. I agree it could be explained a bit better though. too many people protect things for the wrong reasons.

Kaz Wolfe

(examples would help, honestly)

cc @Zanna --^

also, atwood asked a question?

Seth

@KazWolfe yep

Serg

well , it's almost 5 PM , aka UTC midnight for me, and . . . I'm still not over my repcap. Dammit

What is it about getting to 200 that's so addictive , mmm ?

Videonauth

23:54

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WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe maybe we should redefine cc (carbon paper copy) to computer copy :)

IanC

man, I can't eat one bean right now or I'll blow up

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Kaz Wolfe

askubuntu.com/users/641576/alberto -- user is proposing a number of irrelevant tag edits.

Eliah Kagan

@William I don't think the procedure in enzotib's answer for getting Ctrl+C to copy in GNOME Terminal should affect any other applications. I think Edit > Keyboard Shortcuts is in GNOME Terminal itself. Does this not do what you need?

William

@EliahKagan no I mean terminal applications

IanC

23:58

I didn't fully read it, but that single woman question provided me some laughs

terdon

@KazWolfe Yeah, he even posted a really, really crappy answer (!)

askubuntu.com/a/872494/85695

(deleted, >=10k only)

Kaz Wolfe

tsk tsk

Eliah Kagan

@William So when you say, how do you trigger Ctrl+C in applications, you mean, how do you send the signal to interrupt a program that's running in the terminal?

Kaz Wolfe

i think that's a suspension

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