Hmm. I don't even get that.

not parenting advice. just a statement.

mind you this was 10-12 years ago.

I personally think 3D Blender animating is educational enough.

I am a young aspiring sysadmin, dont see the fault in that.

But, it is not my decision. I digress.

I think I'll ask my question on AU.

Good idea.

I have tried and failed. My dad is an engineer. He knows a fair amount about computers, cnsidering he spends his days making models in SOlidworks.

well then it's a lost hope. live under their restrictions and learn to code on paper and pen :P

haha george

ANimating is hardd to do with paper. :)

nice closing tag

@rlemon I wrote a lot of programs on pen and paper :)

not at all... frame per frame and flippppppp

animations <=90s style.

I've done some experimenting with python and VB6 and HTML, but thats pretty much it.

@rlemon How do you render a cube map that way?

a BIG note pad..... and imagination

Yes, and what about the particle system? :)

</kidstodaylack>

Well said

@rlemon What's this thing called... imagination?

lol

I know, back in the good old days, _____. How many times have I heard that?

@William just to prove a point... fill in my blank..... "I've played a board game ___ times in the past year"

Heya Guys

A lot of times.

@rlemon 5

o/ amith

Hey @lazyPower

Hey @AmithKK I was hoping you'd show up!

Usually I miss you.

@William \o

and really I mean no insult buy this.. just saying with more and more technology I find kids are forced to use less and less imagination

@AmithKK are you done with your wordpress install on dasroot? or would you like to keep it?

for entertainment purposes... not for unique though.

Very different time zones.

@lazyPower Yes and yes(If you are ok with it)

not calling kids now a days dumb... actually the opposite.

@William i'm 25, how old are you

Yep

Theyr'e just learning a different set of skills.

@rlemon Not necessarily...

@rlemon We're 13

@rlemon 13.

Hmm ok - Its going to turn into a rails farm over the summer. Just taking inventory.

Technological adaptions

@lazyPower Summer? No prob

So, @AmithKK You pinged me a couple of times, and I responded too late. Talk to me.

@lazyPower Wait Cool! Rails

What's this Neo thing?

I had quite an imagination with my first cell phone - I managed to take a "dumb" Java-capable phone, install Opera Mini, use it for uploading files to my web server, and added the ability to playback MP3 files - even though it had no audio player.

ok and at 13 you are more accomplished with a computer then me at 13. and I was working with them since 8. and my 5 year old nephew will be at your level at 9 (i hope)

@William Its a dervative

kids are becoming less involved in their personal entertainment and rapidly smarter </observation>

That's just how it works.

Technology moves on, so do us kids.

ohh I know.

Anyway:

I got a computer at when i was approx. 9 years

s/kids/humans

@AmithKK Ubuntu derrivative?

every generation will inherently be smarter than the last.

OK I think we've exausted this topic.

s/inherently/presumably

@William You're absolutely right.

</troll>

@William Yeah, Having ALL the De's which look alike

but use the different base

@lazyPower as a mass, not individual.

@lazyPower Lol for the RegEx's :P

like LXDE, XFCE, GNOME, KDE

@all, as late joiner in this conversation I say a pox on you all. I was just getting interested.

@rlemon :D Can I please have help with that script :D (If you are free)

It'd be fun to create a DE just for the heck of it someday.

@rlemon are you familiar with the economic principal of diminishing returns?

</kidstalk*>

@lazyPower yes

thats my offering to your statement

</whats with this tagthing>

<html-seven>

@AmithKK So Neo is a DE?

</ok>

@AmithKK can we tomorrow. too late to code.

If it were proper formatting it'd be <open>content</close>

@William Nope it's an os with may de's

If you want something fun to work on as a hobby project, write a compiler.

Ohh,... I get it.

</its not ended>

@rlemon Ok :)

@AmithKK but it does not look like it'll be a problem to do what you're asking.

So it comes with many different DE's installed?

I wrote a compiler for a custom language I created named "7Basic" - I had a working compiler that emitted assembly code.

Unfortunately the executables tended to be slow :(

Life is slow.

@William Yep, But all of them look alike

Life could use a RAM upgrade.

Life is fast... Time is slow...

Having panel arrangements

Now I'm confused.

</thinkaboutit>

Life could use a processor upgrade

YEs, or an SSD...

@AmithKK BTW I made some minor changes to my Ubiquity supplement.

@William \o/

Take a look:

Somebody should bring all the continents back to pangea

Why?

anyways... night all.

bbt

@GeorgeEdison Less timezones

Fixed the diamond dots, added some color, and moved the text.

@rlemon cya

'night rlemon

Timezones are really annoying.

@AmithKK Can we move to SuperNews to further discuss? Room is getting crowded.

@William Im there

BBL

linpus.com/products.html

Very Nice GNOME Shell theme you got there!

i have an AcerAspire1 firstgen which came with linpus. It was less than stimulating. They gimped quite a bit of the system since at that time it was a modified Fedora distro.

OK.

So you are unimpressed?

Pretty much

I am drooling over the boot time.

BTW I impoved by Ubiquity supplement again

I havent used it since they moved to a rebranded Meego

Now the dots fade and the tiles are more colorful, and I shifted the position of both bodies of texts and made them shorter.

launchpad.net/~cboos

night everyone

Two more upvotes! I begs of you!

Anyway, night

@William cya

Night all.

@GeorgeEdison cya

@AmithKK Hey how come you are here early? No school?

@nitstorm Yeah, Shivaratri.

Oh yeah! Totally forgot re :D

It would be useful if they gave a day off tomorrow, considering that many people stay awake tonight

:P

@nitstorm Yeah

@nitstorm wordle.net/create

Write 2buntu.com and print to pdf please

@BrunoPereira

hoi

hi

anyone tried out the 3.2* linux kernel

which, by the idea itself, is more of an energy saver

I am on it.

and how's it going?

Lesser fan noise.

What about battery time?

or are you not on laptop?

My battery died long ago.

o, sorry to hear that

So, can't comment about battery time.

@shookees I am on it

Where do I get nice Gmail and Ask Ubuntu logos?

I want for the web apps shortcuts.

@jokerdino :D

so where?

o/

@OctavianDamiean Hey :) NTSY :D

Are there any svg images?

@jokerdino gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=105022

Ninja'd

Looks good.

Thanks!

One more question answered!

greetings =]

@kingmilo Hello Welcome to AU chat

o.O

;)

@oli for this question, would setsid unity be an appropriate answer?

For your enjoyment

And well, grats on hitting the 40k!

@kingmilo o/

@jokerdino Yeah - Stefano said that in the second comment. There are at least 20 ways of doing it, I was just focussing on the more simple methods (the terminal method was edited in later on)

Right. I didn't see that.

Well, then, I will work on some other questions then.

@OctavianDamiean Which one is preferable for the wikipedia article ideas? New etherpad note or site?

A new note, yes.

For those who are interested: pad.ubuntu.com/KDJj4HKEhn

Cool.

What is your plan? Do you want to update the current entry?

Update and extend?

So, we shall get started.

Mainly to extend the current article.

And update along the way.

What do you plan to add?

Things like community elected moderators, etc.

Ah, first thing to update. The owner. It should be stack exchange inc

I will just update the actual article then?

Or do all the updates in one go?

Not sure what's better to be honest.

@Oli What's your opinion?

Hey, what is the total number of registered users in the site?

@AmithKK Oh my, those days.

@jokerdino 38394

Some large number nobody really cares about. (roughly what Octavian said)

except we can't distinguish between registered users and unregistered users, since they are one and the same as far as the system cares.

Someone take a new screenshot of the site. ;)

@OctavianDamiean On what, sorry?

@Oli Whether @jokerdino should update the Ask Ubuntu Wikipedia entry as he finds something to update or rather gather all information and update it all at once.

@OctavianDamiean Release early, release often. The problem building up load of stuff in a collaborative environment is duplication of effort. If you nibble away at it other people have a better idea what's being done.

I guess it is like the VCS principle then. :)

Yeah I think so.

Sandbox anyone?

@OctavianDamiean 3.8394x10^4

@AmithKK Hello

@William Hey

@rlemon @GeorgeEdison I have an idea for a chrome extension/script, dont care who does it.

You know how the (1) appears in the tab title when there is a new post in a room?

Have that (1) also appear if there is a new post in any other room that you are in.

Sort of a global notification.

@William it does that.

BTW KDE takes some getting used to but it's awesome.

It does?

I got a new message in SuperNews that I didnt see till I checked the room.

I'm pretty sure it doesnt.

@MarcoCeppi ping

and Hi all

@Greg Pong

@MarcoCeppi I use your chromium extension OSD notifier, and wondered: does it interact with the filesystem? If so - how do you do that?

@Greg it interacts with libnotify using something called an NPAPI

ah so not quite filesystem IO then

which is a compiled plugin that the browser can use to interact with the OS

Right, it's not really playing with the filesystem, though you could make an NPAPI that did that

I was wondering if it was possible to have non-sandboxed filesystem IO via an extension/app - thought I'd ask you how you achieved it in your ext.

Thanks I'll look into it

few mints back i got a msge to restart apply updates , right upper coner , i have checked there is nothing updated in ubuntu software center "history"

@OneZero If you hit the power button in the top-right corner, do you see something about "restart to apply updates"?

hi all

Hello!

@Kyle yes i did restart , but didnt know what is updated , i have checked in Ubuntu Software Center "history" update

Check /var/log/apt/history.log

ok

It should be the last entry in that file

It'll tell you everything that installed (I haven't been following this conversation, so I don't know what's going on =P)

got it

ty

just 1 more question , it auto updated didnt ask me , every time i had a popup & ask for updated

Hmm...

Let me see...

Install: mesa-utils:amd64 (8.0.1+git20110129+d8f7d6b-0ubuntu2, automatic), cups-pk-helper:amd64 (0.1.2-1, automatic), gnome-shell:amd64 (3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1, automatic), libcaribou0:amd64 (0.3.92-0ubuntu1, automatic), gnome-applets:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0:amd64 (0.9.13-1, automatic), gnome-panel-data:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-gee-1.0:amd64 (0.6.2.1-0ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12:amd64 (0.15.5-1ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-json-1.0:amd64 (0.14.0-1, automatic), alacarte:amd64 (0.13.2-2ubuntu3, automatic), gir1.2-caribou-1.0:amd64 (0.3.92-0ubuntu1, automatic), libmozjs185-1.0:amd64 (1.8.5-1.0.0-0ubuntu5, automatic), mutter-common:amd64 (3.2.1-0ubuntu2, automatic), caribou:amd64 (0.3.92-0ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-folks-0.6:amd64 (0.6.3.2-0ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-gkbd-3.0:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gnome-session-fallback:amd64 (3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1, automatic), python-gmenu:amd64 (3.0.1-0ubuntu6, automatic), gnome-icon-theme-full:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu2, automatic), libmutter0:amd64 (3.2.1-0ubuntu2, automatic), gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2:amd64 (0.2.10-2, automatic), libpanel-applet-4-0:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gnome-themes-standard:amd64 (3.2.1-0ubuntu1.1, automatic), gjs:amd64 (1.30.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gnome-bluetooth:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu2, automatic), gnome-user-share:amd64 (3.0.0-2ubuntu3, automatic), gnome-applets-data:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0:amd64 (0.6.14-1git1ubuntu1.1, automatic), gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0:amd64 (0.9.1.90-0ubuntu5.1, automatic), gir1.2-mutter-3.0:amd64 (3.2.1-0ubuntu2, automatic), gnome-panel:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gnome-tweak-tool:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1), gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0:amd64 (3.2.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), libgjs0c:amd64 (1.30.0-0ubuntu1, automatic), gir1.2-cogl-1.0:amd64 (1.8.0-1~svn1, automatic), gir1.2-clutter-1.0:amd64 (1.8.0-1~svn1, automatic)

Go to Software Sources and change the install method there.

that wt it did

Gnome Shell ftw =P

let me check

Unity can die a slow painful death.

hmm

Was it set to Download and install automatically?

?

Wait a minute... that's not a security update so it shouldn't have install automatically.

software to date

Somehow Gnome Shell got installed. Is that what you wanted?

(Remember I said I'm just coming in on this)

no no

Yeah... that's weird.

i mean why these updates are auto updated

Let me whip something up for you.

ok

Fml. Too long.

sudo apt-get remove mesa-utilscups-pk-helpergnome-shelllibcaribou0gnome-appletsgir1.2-upowerglib-1.0gnome-panel-datagir1.2-gee-1.0gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12gir1.2-json-1.0alacartegir1.2-caribou-1.0libmozjs185-1.0mutter-commoncaribougir1.2-folks-0.6gir1.2-gkbd-3.0gnome-session-fallbackpython-

gmenugnome-icon-theme-fulllibmutter0gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2libpanel-applet-4-0gnome-themes-standardgjsgnome-bluetoothgnome-user-sharegnome-applets-datagir1.2-accountsservice-1.0gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0gir1.2-mutter-3.0gnome-panelgnome-tweak-toolgir1.2-panelapplet-4.0libgjs0cgir1.2-cogl-1.0gir1.2-clutter-1.0

Whoops... something didn't go right there. 1 sec again.

no no

w8

i am saying its automatically updated no popup for update as i have always

Oooooohhh

So, you do have gnome-shell installed? And that's how you want it?

(Just double checking)

w8

wt i have installed last time is icon from ppa

gnome shell ?

OK, I won't worry about it then. I'll just see if I can't fix your problem. I just wanted to make sure that you weren't getting unwanted updates

apt-get install ambiance-colors radiance-colors

i use ubuntu tweak alot

I see. I'm looking through settings and I'm not finding anything immediate.

ok

So, you did do a manual apt-get?

no no

i did apt-get update

no apt-get upgrade

But did you do an apt-get install?

:3489730

Oops

i have install icon at 9 pm & check its working or not

then auto update 9:45

OOookk.. Got ya.

Oh, I see what happened.

Nevermine...

my ubuntu is working 100 % , there are lots of ? abt updates messing so thats y i m ...

Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.51'

^That's what interests me

I'm trying to figure out where that aptdaemon was called from.

hmmm

on 19 th

i have checked every time i have updated there is an sender

do u have the same ? cat /var/log/apt/history.log

Good question. I'll look.

I'm going to guess so.

Inconclusive.

shall we post a question about it ?

No... but this is a brand new install (less than a day)

From what I can gather aptdaemon works with update-manager. I think.

Of course, there's not man page lol

oh i have to take a pic before restarting

Cheese!

let see if it happen again then i will post a ? abt it

& 1st take lots of pics lolzzz

ONE MOAR UPVOTE!

YAY!

What's the deal with those up-votes on that answer?

I wanted the badge.

Badges are tasty.

lol

Hey, they are! I have it on good authority.

There you go ;)

@JorgeCastro Signing the CoC is not mandatory when participating in face-to-face events like UDS?

Thank you!

Ubuntu Graz Meetup group created! meetup.com/ubuntu-graz

\o/

Openshot locked up!

And I didnt sAVE!

ARRGH!

whacks computer

@TorbenGundtofteBruun @JorgeCastro -^

@AmithKK So this is what happens when I don't yell at you. ಠ_ಠ

"Its not my fault!"

Organize a local Ubuntu Meetup, go there wearing an Ask Ubuntu T-Shirt. WIN!

wow, just wow!

Hey, that's neat.

That is absolutely amazing!

I wonder how I survived without that until now. :D

There is more! Ctrl + L in a terminal will clear it. I was always typing clear. :D

lol, me 2

fancy

@OctavianDamiean Oh, I've been using Ctrl+L for a while now.

Well, thank you for not letting me know. :P

Oh right, sudo !! is also very handy.

It'll execute the last command as root.