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04:03
Haha guest on Al-Jazeera just said Atlanta is well educated because it has an airport... Heck even Edmonton has an airport... Get a better story man.
@Serg Sure.
Also, this is what you call subtle humor:
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Subtle humour would be calling that a typewritten piece of paper pinned to a corkboard too small to read :p
@NathanOsman so . . . I'm looking at one of Gtk examples, like this one developer.gnome.org/gnome-devel-demos/stable/menubar.py.html.en There's app.run() being called, but I cannot see that .run() being defined anywhere in Gtk.Application or Gtk.Window documentation
I don't think it's part of Gtk, is it? It's part of gobject.
(IIRC)
Yeah, I think I found it. Gtk.Application inherits from Gio.Application , which has run(argv) function
Yay, obscurity
04:14
I knew a guy that would use the nato alphabet over the phone, regardless of who he was talking to.... usually led to more confusion than not
he would be puzzled why the customer rep at his credit card company wouldn't understand an extremely fast string of foxtrot tango etc.
So . . . as a follow up . . .how do I pass arguments to the application ? Doesn't seem to work
@NathanOsman creative XD
@Chan-HoSuh That pre-dates NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization).
well, AFAIK that's what most people call it, regardless of history
I live in a NATO country and have never heard that called NATO speak.
But wiki says you are right and I am wrong.
I don't wanna be pissed, but . . .Who TF thought it would be nice idea to have PyGTK, and then gi.repository.Gtk ? Finding documentation and tutorials for gi stuff is utter PITA and PyGTK stuff is mostly outdated crap since the days ubuntu was using GNOME 2
04:24
The International Radiotelephony Spelling Alphabet, commonly known as the ICAO phonetic alphabet, sometimes called the NATO alphabet or spelling alphabet and the ITU radiotelephonic or phonetic alphabet, is the most widely used radiotelephonic spelling alphabet. Although often called "phonetic alphabets", spelling alphabets are not associated with phonetic transcription systems such as the International Phonetic Alphabet
. Instead, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) alphabet assigned codewords acrophonically to the letters of the English alphabet, so that critical combinations of letters and numbers can be pronounced and understood by those who exchange voice messages by radio or telephone regardless of language barriers or the quality of the communication channel.[1]
@WinEunuuchs2Unix thanks for letting me know though... my familiarity with nato alphabet is limited to seeing aviation-related people use it and some guys I used to work with (not in aviation) just speeling off this stuff over the phone
@Chan-HoSuh When I'm talking to some people on the phone I'll say "A as in Apple" or "M as in Mother"./
lol, yep exactly my point with the above anecdote
"b as in boy"etc
I would say "B as in Bob" but never "Bravo" as your so-called NATO alphabet does.
hey, I'm just a guy that tries to be understandable :) It's not my fault people don't use ICAO
04:28
I guess if I lived in London I would say "B as in Belgium" or "B as in Brussles" but in North America 99% have never heard those words. I guess it would be regional.
I realized recently some people don't like me using the word "mean" instead of "average"
in the interest of career longevity, I make a concious effort to say "average" now
Well medium income isn't the same as average income... .it's a statistics thing
The best career is the one you don't care about :p
hmmm I think you mean "median", and yeah that's true but not exactly what I'm talking about ;)
hey, so where you do live?
04:31
Oh what do you mean by mean then?
Edmonton.
Alberta.
Canada.
well, I guess you are adding to my point
making me seem like some weird jargon guy :)
I don't know what you mean.
:p
I'm just an average guy asking what you mean by mean ... LOL
well, I guess I think of myself as someone who speaks plainly as possible, given the situation, but that example made me realize, I'm just too educated in technical stuff :D
There are lots of technical people here with obscure words for technical specifications... you'll fit right in!
oh goodie
can i speaks the codez here?
04:35
Of course...Python is preferable but C is allowed too.
Hi, I'm getting the "device not managed" error for all wired devices. I tried with an USB-ethernet adapter, my android phone tethered, and the internal nic all shows "device not managed".

NetworkManager.conf has the line managed=true
/etc/network/interfaces has only "auto lo"

I googled it and all the fixes say check those two files. It's not it. restarted network manager, restarted the machine, left the cable in.
nothing.

It's a fresh install of 16.10 i686, hdd wiped clean.
WiFi works tho
Sorry all my internet stuff simply works without any effort so I can't help you. They don't call it i686 though they call it AMD64 for some reason.
^^ On the intel architecture I mean.
Nah, it's a 32bit install.
I doubt it's relevant tho
You're in luck then. They call the i686 Intel386 or something like that.
Ah yes, Intel's wildly wacky naming conventions.
04:42
it's Linus not Moores law this time.
What was his name again? The guy at intel... was it Frank Moore?
i386 refers to the original 80386 instruction set.
@StephaneHockenhull interestingly enough, I upvoted a couple answers to a similar question on this site, so I guess I am supposed to know what is going on, lol
It's the first time I ever had that issue.
i686 refers to the P6 instruction set (Pentium II).
it happened to me when I re-installed ubuntu
04:44
Most binaries in the archives are build for the i686 instruction set.
@NathanOsman Still a x86 instruction set.
Well, an i386 binary will run on an i686 processor.
But the reverse is not true.
So if you have a Pentium MMX, it won't run i686 binaries.
True
Well I owned a 8086 Turbo, a 80286, an 80486 and a Pentium but never an i686. I feel left out now :(
@Chan-HoSuh I used the minimal CD then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. (It's an old Vaio 1.2Ghz single core 1GB I'm setting up for a friend who's unemployed right now)
04:46
I've got a 486 and a Pentium MMX.
Went straight from the MMX to a Centrino :P
@StephaneHockenhull so I don't know if this will help, but I upvoted this answer years ago: askubuntu.com/a/78612/43660 and I also upvoted the comment about setting "managed=" not being important
Yep, I do have a Pentium II just sitting around here.
Don't use it any more.
Oh I do have a Centrino Dual Core at 2 Ghz sitting on the coffee table waiting for LAMP setup.
Yeah, they have about the same processing power as the original Raspberry Pi :P
Cool! I just found my AMD K-7 processor! =)
04:48
I remember moving from the 486 to the Pentium MMX and being so impressed with the huge boost in performance.
And going from 12 MB of RAM to 160 MB was cool too.
@Chan-HoSuh nope, tried that already.
700MHz. This sucker is screaming fast!! =)
That's roughly the clock speed of the original Raspberry Pi and the Nintendo Wii.
Both of which use different CPU architectures.
So it isn't really fair to compare them :D
I think my Turbo 8086 had a little switch that took it from 8 Mhz to 12 Mhz but can't remember exactly.
It was fully decked out with 640 KB of RAM though and a 10 MB hard drive.
I can't believe it was once possible to work with only 12 MB of RAM. A $20 router has more than that.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Yes, I remember the turbo switch.
04:50
Oh well, that didn't work
The good ole DOS days buddy.
Our 486 even had a LED display on the front proudly displaying the current clock speed.
hehe now we have that in Conky
@NathanOsman We would change those into words for fun. :)
The button toggled between 16 MHz and 33 MHz.
04:51
Mine read HI and LO
@Chan-HoSuh thanks anyway. Tomorrow I'll try a clean install with the full DVD instead.
An early form of underclocking :P
@StephaneHockenhull sorry :( good luck
486DX-33
I remember my first Pentium Tower from Gateway it was $6 grand and it had 100 Mhz chip instead of the puny 90 Mhz one.
04:52
It had a combo 4x CD-ROM and 3&1/2" floppy drive.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Prices have sure come down.
@NathanOsman Well it came with joystick and sub-woofer :)
My most memorable accomplishment was booting it up after all those years.
The CMOS battery had died and it refused to read from the hard drive.
Plus Apache Helicopter game with Hell-Fire missiles you could shoot in Afghanistan.
So I cracked open the case and grabbed the model numbers from the hard drives.
A quick bit of googling and I had the cylinder-head-sector numbers to enter into the BIOS.
Another reboot and it worked.
So that's why they tell you the C-H-S all the time
04:55
@NathanOsman Until you unplugged the power, then the motherboard didn't remember, right?
@WinEunuuchs2Unix lol why did you put down so much money... did you need it for work?
It actually did, at least overnight, so I'm betting there was some residual power somewhere.
RTC, maybe?
I have no idea, I would need to investigate further.
@Chan-HoSuh It was more of a tax write-off because of Software Devlopment revenues.
04:56
One of my boards was RTC, so there was no removable battery on it.
Real Time Clock?
I remember buying a pentium pro 200 with an additional possible on the motherboard... I thought I was being clever... then two years later it didn't matter
@Seth slowly tilt china cabinet on it's back --- problem solved :)
04:57
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I believe that is what they were called. I just remember the board having a special chip on it, but no battery, and it seemed to hold settings forever.
1. Put cabinet into rocket
2. Achieve low-earth orbit
3. Remove plates in weightlessness
4. Return to earth
5. ...
6. Profit!
@Terrance I just fixed Windows 8.1 to tell the real time today... It was confused by Linux UTC.
My Windows 7 laptop does that too.
also:
have
have you
have you heard
have you heard the
have you heard the one
have you heard the one about
have you heard the one about traceroute
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@WinEunuuchs2Unix Show Windows whose boss! :)
04:59
That one is funny too.
Go into Date & Time settings and change it to something something time.gov... it's an easy fix.
so most people know about Shrodinger's Cat, but do you guys know about Wigner's Friend? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigner's_friend
have
* * *
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* * *
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have you heard the one about traceroute
@NathanOsman hah
There, FTFY.
05:01
Wow figty kids jhust killed in plane crash sad.
In Krysickistan or someplace like that in Russia area.
Opps no 6 kids I was wrong.
Cargo plane missed the airport and landed in residential area.
Boeing 747 owned by Turkish Airlines.
That's a big plane.
Yeah. The bigger the plane the bigger the crash I guess.
Lots of plane crashes recently
In Russia at least... I think Hillary Clinton had the DNC hacke their avionics.
Psst ^^^ Fake news.
Its ok, I never take you seriously anyway
Good... I just say it for the NSA anyway.
I wonder how Edward Snowden is doing? Last I saw of him was a picture with his girlfriend and a bucket of KFC in Russia.
Ah yes, I found it. My motherboard had a Dallas RTC on it. Looks like they had internal batteries that could be very problematic to replace. betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22000
05:11
Hitler's "Mein Kampf" was a best-seller in Germany in 2016 after being banned by Americans since WWII ended.
I think when you ban something it makes people want to have it.
devrant.io/rants/229063 <- hahahahahahaha. oh. my. word.
@Terrance It's usually a big watch battery.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix what does that have to do with... anything at all?
Which thread are you referring to?
well, the mein kampf thing seems kind of overhyped. Basically the copyright expired and now a bunch of libraries, universities, etc. want to buy it for their collection
05:23
@Chan-HoSuh Copyrights are usually 17 years. I hardly think anyone would respect Hitler's copyright in the first place though.
17 years? where'd you get that?
@Chan-HoSuh Generic drugs or technology patents I think... can't remember where that num ber comes from.
well, I'm not saying there wasn't some maneuvering involved, but the copyright was given to Bavaria which refused to let the book be published
#Which party are you?
- [ ] Republican Party
- [ ] Democratic Party
- [x] LAN Party
@Chan-HoSuh What like a person named Bavaria or a country named Bavaria? A country can't own a person.
05:25
I never said a country can own a person
No seriously do you mean the country named Bavaria or a person named Bavaria owned Hitler's works?
the country, and I think just that book
Hmm... taking ownership for Hitler's work would be an interesting law suit.
Think of all the Holocaust victims that could sue Bavaria now.
Ooops survivors I mean.
05:28
Did I miss anything?
An interesting thought experiment.
Just rise of sales for Mein Kampf
@KazWolfe nope
I thought Mein Kampf meant "My Life" in german but Russia Today says it means "My Struggle"
05:29
I have to admit, I'd be leery of reading that book on the subway
Pfft.. He probably had 5 ghost writers like Hillary Clinton anyway.
I could get 10 ghost writers to write my biography and come across as sane :p
@Chan-HoSuh Just put some kind of cover over the book, so that no one sees the title
Kindles! Nobody knows what you're reading.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix That might still be a challenge :P
@KazWolfe That sentence was written just for you :p
Anyway just as current politicians have speech writers, Hitler could have had a team of them too.
Indeed the deep-state of Germany and the FIAT currency people were probably more to blame for WWII than him.
:34798943 thanks, but too late. tpu-
05:40
@KazWolfe or Kindle's android app
@Serg same difference. and you got dubs again.
@KazWolfe where do i get dups and trips ? I'm slightly confused ?
@Serg you know what GET!s are, right?
Oh, the message stamp 34799015
and yes, that.
rolling...
woo! dubs!
05:42
99 and 33
only the end.
so only the 33, the 99 does not count.
OK
66 is half way.... not that anyone cares.
So, yesterday, I post this : unix.stackexchange.com/a/337511/85039 like 5 different ways to do same thing. OP tells me today most of them didn't work. So I fix it all in under 15 minutes. Then OP says he used wrong file for input . . . Le facepalm, right ? But says perl's original version worked for him. Well, now everything should be working . . . I'm like . . tempted to add Ruby version as well
Serg you work too hard for free.... on that note I have to work tomorrow so good night everyone.
Yeah . . . If I were paid for all the scripts I make , that'd be great . . .
Cuz I'm pretty broke right meow
agh, this stupid sore throat.
06:04
yeah me too ( re: sore throat)
hey @Serg, I forget what your status is, you still in college?
@Chan-HoSuh he is, and he has a schedule allowing slightly more than 1 hr free / day
o/ @muru
@Chan-HoSuh yep, stuck in my goddamn engineering degree
@KazWolfe \o
lol, stuck?
┌─[22:14:47]─[kazwolfe@WOLFSTORM]
└──> ~ $ type love
bash: type: love: not found
┌─[✗]─[22:14:49]─[kazwolfe@WOLFSTORM]
└──> ~ $ type peace
bash: type: peace: not found
┌─[✗]─[22:14:53]─[kazwolfe@WOLFSTORM]
└──> ~ $ type happiness
bash: type: happiness: not found
┌─[✗]─[22:14:56]─[kazwolfe@WOLFSTORM]
└──> ~ $ type kill
kill is a shell builtin
06:14
Yup. Take classes, fail 50% of them, retake next semester
oh man, sorry to hear that... :(
@KazWolfe would you like me to write script for happiness and peace ?
@Serg nah
How do i find what throws error ? There's no traceback
TypeError: Must be number, not NoneType
that's all i get
@Serg asserts literally everywhere
06:16
use the python logger
use try around everything and on except use logger.error( e, exc_info=True)
sigh . . . found it . . . a function do_command_line() is required to have int return status
MORE assertS! USE ALL THE assertS!
like . . . would be nice if somebody DOCUMENTED THAT SH!T . . . I'm looking at you, Gtk devs !!!
@Serg gtk documenting something? ROFLMAO
what are you working on anyway?
06:26
@Chan-HoSuh So you know how in Unity you can hold Super key and hit one of the number keys to launch appropriate app on the launcher ? Well , there's this one guy for whom this feature stopped working. He's desperate to get it, and even posted a duplicate of his own question today. So, since I'm bored and kinda think it would be cool to have a script that launches items from Unity launcher, I'm writing that right now
hmm, I see
Also, I'm officially at 40,006 :D
keep an eye out for OP on this post, they might get a bit testy.
cc @muru
CVs are also appreciated on that --^
@Serg congrats... maybe you should take a break then :D
@Serg wanna donate 10k to me? :D :P
06:32
@KazWolfe dv'd, vtc'd and moved on about 20 minutes ago :D
@muru yeah, just tagging you because you dealt with OP. I think we need to still keep an eye on them
get ready to throw flags if need be
@KazWolfe oh, I am not getting involved anymore. I tend to get pissed off and then mods tend to get pissed off at me
@muru you are a mod, sorta.
i'll keep a watch though, i have some good standing at the moment, so i get to abuse some little amount of lenience
@KazWolfe on Vim, yes, and there I'm waay more mellow than here.
@Chan-HoSuh Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. For this semester I'll probably slow down and won't be posting as much on AU, although I might be posting more on U&L
@KazWolfe Well . . . If you provide me with 20 answers that are worth 500 points of bounty each, then maybe i'll consider
Also, WOOO, my script is working
@KazWolfe you might want to mention here askubuntu.com/a/818022/295286 that Universe repository can have unverified code there. I've had answer related to that somewhere
@KazWolfe ah, there. Feel free to steal cite my answer: askubuntu.com/a/795759/295286
aaand wonderful, my glasses broke.
so i'm sick, my glasses are broken, i'm stuck without a good computer, and what else...
@KazWolfe and that's why you always gotta have a spare pair of glasses
06:48
that's not cheap.
especially when your VSP only permits one pair every two years.
If you know your prescription values, you can get some glasses online under 50 $
and of course, the warranty is one year, and my insurance doesn't reset for another 7 months.
so, i get to wait 7 more months before i can get new frames unless i want to pay out-of-pocket.
fortunately i don't have a bad prescription so i'll be fine. (i.e. i can drive without glasses legally)
07:22
@Fabby smile ? no ... LOL ! :D :D :D ... +1 for that great answer ... OP will be happy I'm guessing ... well done my friend ! :) hahaha ... :)
07:45
@cl-netbox ;;-) Before going to bed with a splitting head-ache...
 
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09:37
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: httpwww.strongtesteronecomnitricmusclereviews by anjanette91 on askubuntu.com (@KazWolfe)
09:50
Looks like somebody got interested in my xrandr indicator, so it's on the way into my PPA
@ThomasWard this one is in your department askubuntu.com/q/872453/295286
10:08
@NathanOsman I'll need some help with my xrandr-indicator debian packaging, if you have time at some point tomorrow.
Ping me what time works for you
 
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11:19
@terdon Can this : askubuntu.com/q/725159/295286 please be moved to [superuser.se] ? OP needs to enable responding to ICMP requests on Windows. I know because I had to do the same for my mom's Win10
hmmm, the tag didn't work. Maybe this ? [su.se]
@Serg Just [su]: Super User
Thanks :)
The trilogy (su, so and sf) have two-letter shortcut names.
what's sf for ?
11:22
Oh, sense it makes , not Yoda I am
Anyway, sorry, I can't move it. Too old. I can only close.
OK, fair enough . . .
Now what do we do with this?
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A: Does Ubuntu already support Intel Speed Shift?

Jeff AtwoodSo, does Speed Shift (available in Skylake and Kaby Lake), also known as Hardware P-States, actually work in Ubuntu 16.04 now that it is released? I am having a hard time finding any concrete information on this, despite tons of Google searches. It looks like the Linux 4.5 kernel (or newer) may...

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@JeffAtwood really ? is this a test ?
Whatever it was, it's now a comment.
Methinks that Jeff's been away too long :)
11:29
Somebody needs to tell him about this new feature we got called bounties
Well, I'm gonna go lie down . . .
 
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12:33
> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 127.0.0.1 --dport 9300:9400 -j ACCEPT
This I'll work, right?
I rarely have to work with iptables :p
12:51
iptables are annoying as f
@blade19899 as far as I know, this will accept connections from the loopback interface on ports 9300-9400, if that's what you mean to do with it
13:18
> -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 9200 -s 127.0.0.1 -j ACCEPT
That, in my rules file does not apply?
@blade19899 you're opening ports for the localhost with those rules, if that's what you want they are right
@IanC Only localhost can access them, every other IP not. But, I can still acces them, via browser?
@blade19899 yeah, you'll be able to access them through a browser, if you write http(s)://127.0.0.1:9200 on it
@IanC I can access it via another machine. If I typ in hostname:9200?
@blade19899 no, you're being specific on that rule that the source address must be 127.0.0.1, which means the localhost. If you try to access it from another machine, the source is another so this rule is not accepted and (if you have a "drop all" policy before the accept rules) the packets will be dropped
13:36
@IanC All is well. yaay
...I am having difficulties with people, posting untested answers, or answers which are no more than thinking aloud... askubuntu.com/questions/872532/…
14:12
I think should be made a synonym of . Currently both tags exist, in practice they seem to be about the same thing, and already is a synonym of . askubuntu.com/tags/virtualization/synonyms
...voted
@EliahKagan Done
14:42
Cool, thanks.
Can we migrate this question to elementaryos.stackexchange.com ?
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Q: How do I fix my GUI and package manager, after having removed nvidia-prime?

arielumAfter updating the graphics driver, I could not get into graphical mode. So I removed the nvidia and xserver packages, and now, when I run apt-get -f install, I get these error messages: It is the Elementary OS Freya 0.4 x86_64. It all started when I wanted to install Unity 8, and later I "i...

Done
Thanks.
 
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16:29
Huehuehue
This is why I like T-Mobile
I've used 1.2GB more than they count.
@edwinksl hue
This is why I like AT&T
I'd have that with the 6GB plan
But as you can see, I don't really even reach 2
Me neither but Work pays for it..
16:33
ATT is a developer's worst nightmare though. Phones are locked down even more than on Verizon, plus they're like $50 over retail for some reason.
And the price for plans is higher than VZW.
For worse coverage.
@Zacharee1 bought my phone from OnePlus...
so didn't have to worry about any of that.
Well work did I should say...
Well most people buy through the carrier.
In the US
@Zacharee1 right...
I use to...will never do that again if I can help it.
Hello everybody ! :)
16:48
Apologies for the hiccup in service. A one-off deployment didn’t go as smoothly as planned: https://twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/821034444559503360
17:11
@Zacharee1 yeah but with rollover you can then get "free" tethering!
s/free/cheap/.
17:42
Ohai.
17:59
@Seth tethering is included
@Zacharee1 right, so your rollover becomes even more useful.

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