Ask Ubuntu General Room

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:00

funny the differerent psychology between cats and dogs when it comes to vehicle travel... Ace Ventura could explain why I guess.

Five more sleeps to brave new world!

Journeyman Geek

@Zacharee1 GET OF MY LAWN

Zacharee1

no

@WinEunuuchs2Unix my cat will try to go on my dad's shoulder when we take him to the vet

What a great app

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well if every time your cat travels is to the vet no wonder.

Zacharee1

@WinEunuuchs2Unix where else would I take my cat?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I don't know... disneyland for cats sounds like a good place.

Zacharee1

00:04

wat

WinEunuuchs2Unix

maybe cat diner or cat theatre?... .how would I know where you take cats for fun?

Zacharee1

cats are pretty independent

if they want to go somewhere, they'll go there themselves

Serg

Mostly, not all of them

Zacharee1

and if they want company, they'll find you

WinEunuuchs2Unix

In Russia some guy has a Lynx for pet... that looks way better than Canadian Cats. Should be the mascot for Linux instead of Tux.... If I make a Ubuntu rip-off I'm calling it Lynx instead of Mint or Elemtary OS.

Serg

00:06

Yeah, Russians are into "exotic" animals. There's a lot of videos of Russians keeping racoons on youtube

Mine will already have a name: Derpbuntu

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Racoon doesn't sound like a friendly pet... Then again they might appreciate not making a living from garbage cans again... who knows?

Serg

Ubuntu for Derpy beings

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I like Derpbuntu... has a nice ring to it.

My Lynx distro will be marketed as "Linux for cool cats"

Serg

Be sure to include lolcats,too

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Russia Today just said "meme" on the air it's pronounced "meam"!

I always though those things you guys posted was pronouced Me - Me

haha Fake News is so much fun these days :p

Serg

00:11

Nah, it's pronounced "meem"

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I just said they said "meam" which is the same as "meem"/

ok serg you were right for once :p

Third time I'll ask and I'll never ask again. Why did my question get close votes? askubuntu.com/questions/870452/…

Serg

Well, I personally don't know. I've no idea about isos anyway

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It wasn't about ISO really it was about booting USB.

I switched it to booting DOS via USB in the end, just to take ISO out of the equation because that can be murky in itself.

Thanks for your input though Serg :)

Serg

no problem :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2017 is going to be a great year... I can feel it

Serg

00:23

Linux kernel version names are amazing ! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_kernel_names

2.6.23-rc4–2.6.23-rc6 Pink Farting Weasel

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Serg Thanks for the list of names... I wanted to talk to Linus aobut one of those names but now I want to talk to him about the whole list you linked... it's all so... well personal :)

Serg

4.3-rc5 Blurry Fish Butt

Censored fish butt XD

Journeyman Geek

I pronounce it as mememememe with the person getting punched in the throat halfway through the second me

David Foerster

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/meme says it's pronounced /miːm/.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@DavidFoerster Thanks for proving Serg was wrong even if I was wrong at the same time it's worth it...hehe :p

Why the heck did google store camera pictures in a folder named dcim how geeky and stupid is that?

Journeyman Geek

00:34

Its a standard actually

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Why can't geeks spell meme like it is supposed to sound? It's as bad as Structured Query Language which looks like "Ssss Que Elll" being pronounced "Sequel".

Isn't tech hard enough to learn without violating all the "Hooked on Phoenics" rules?

Journeyman Geek

no

WinEunuuchs2Unix

My very expensive computerize accounting college diploma programme at $4k per year (ok expensive for me, not the USA) made me take a simple english class. I think all the programmers out there should be forced to take the same course.

David Foerster

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think Serg was actually right. In English "meem" would be pronounced /miːm/ as well typically. He was just using English to illustrate the phonemes instead of IPA notation.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Just because they get to do a shift bit left or xor two registers in ASSEMBLER doesn't give them license to complicating the English language.

@DavidFoerster TRAITOR!

Journeyman Geek

00:40

Just cause a watery tart threw a K&R at you does not make you king!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I know lots of tarts (they are everywhere) but whats a K&R?

Nathan Osman

Kernighan and Ritchie?

Journeyman Geek

The C Programming Language

The C Programming Language (sometimes referred to as K&R, after its authors' initials) is a computer programming book written by Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie, the latter of whom originally designed and implemented the language, as well as co-designed the Unix operating system with which development of the language was closely intertwined. The book was central to the development and popularization of the C programming language and is still widely read and used today. Because the book was co-authored by the original language designer, and because the first edition of the book served for many...

luk3yx

This user doesn't seem to know that this is the Ubuntu forums, not Linux Mint.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I think I've written a million lines of C code... Did you know it's the third reincarnation after the language A and B?

luk3yx

00:42

askubuntu.com/questions/872353/…

Read the revisions - They edited it to say Ubuntu.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

We get a lot of Mint questions because it's based on Ubuntu.

luk3yx

It isn't allowed, isn't it?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It's a grey area...

Isn't Isn't a double negative? :p

luk3yx

I flagged it. It says in the help page that Mint questions aren't allowed.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I've seen half flagged and half accepted shrugs

There is an exception to every rule ;)

luk3yx

00:45

It seems they're migrating the questions...

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix And now we have C++.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman My accounting system (ACCPAC +) was just embracing C++ when I dropped out (or was forced out) of the business.

I really don't like talking about it though. Seven nation army, queen of england, hounds of hell and all that stuff from the White Stripes.

Nathan Osman

No worries.

luk3yx

How much reputation defines a "new user" here?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I think a new user is based on number of questions and answers not on rep. not sure though.

Thomas Ward

00:48

what do you mean?

luk3yx

I have been called a "new user" a couple of times. I'm okay with this, I'm just wondering what defines a "new user".

Kaz Wolfe

@luk3yx less than 10, i believe.

in which context?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

When @KazWolfe calls you a "nubcake" you are a new user LOL

luk3yx

Some people say that ≈2000 is a "normal" user.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Don't worry though Kaz condescendingly calls me a nothing when <10k :p

Kaz Wolfe

00:51

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I don't call people nubcakes.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm condescending to everyone.

Serg

i do

The first rule of nubcake club is that everyone is a nubcake

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@luk3yx I've seen people making edits at 2 points each to reach 2k and then pretty much disappear out of the AskUbuntu Universe after that.

Kaz Wolfe

some kalis on the frontpage if anyone's bored.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Serg I think you think everyone is a nubcake who can't code Pythion App Indicators. Or even spell Python correctly :D

luk3yx

Now what is a "nubcake"?

Kaz Wolfe

00:53

@luk3yx a meme.

IanC

@KazWolfe "What Is the Root User In Kali Linux?"

/facepalm

Serg

@luk3yx basicaly same as noob

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe I call it mainboard not "front page".

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I call it front page.

IanC

why people insist on using Kali when they don't know the basics basics of basics of linux?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:54

@KazWolfe It's not Front Page It is mainboard :p

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Don't care.

Serg

@IanC because using Kali makes one a h4x0r

IanC

it's like not knowing how to ride a bicycle and wanting to take a Hayabusa to a track day

Nathan Osman

And Hacker Typer.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe May your wolf den be cursed with 1,000 cats.

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Kaz Wolfe

00:54

this one too: askubuntu.com/questions/872357/… (see revisions)

@WinEunuuchs2Unix So, lunch?

Nathan Osman

Lol.

Serg

Look ,Ma, I've terminal with black background and green text. I'm a hacker !!!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

sure... burger bar?

Nathan Osman

@Serg That is so annoying on the eyes.

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I was thinking the 1000 cats.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:55

haha

That's downtown Chinese Restaurant Alley menu.

Nathan Osman

Clearly white on black is the Approved Color Scheme.™

IanC

@Serg lol I gotta congratulate someone if they can spend more than one week with that color scheme :p

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I like cyan on black questions whith and light orange on black answers.

Serg

If you don't sit in front of terminal for hours, then it's not too bad. But if you do so for hours - that color scheme does get annoying

IanC

I tried some other colors for my terminal, but still didn't find any that didn't make me come back to the default eventually

Nathan Osman

00:56

I always enable transparency too.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ohhh I like transperncy.

IanC

@NathanOsman I tried gray BG with white and green for prompt, looks good (also enabled transparency)

the only problem with transparency is when you have it over tons of text

Nathan Osman

@IanC Yeah, that sounds easy on the eyes.

IanC

there should be a shortcut to enable/disable transparency

then it would be perfect!

Nathan Osman

It's Gnome, so forget about anything being easy.

Serg

00:58

I still haven't found a single color scheme that makes me completely happy. I just use light grey on black background so far

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman @NathanOsman I signed up for a new ISP (telus) off my old ISP (shaw) which will give me 50 Mps up and down for 3 months offer. Can I get your AU clone website off you? I'd like to mirror everything so I can word count stuff like "nVidia".

luk3yx

Has 32-bit been forgotten about already? Most snaps are 64-bit now.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

oops I stuttered...sorry.

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Stack Exchange Data Explorer

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix AU Clone Website?

Oh, you mean the data server. I haven't touched that in 3-4 years.

I have no idea if it still works.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:59

@luk3yx I was thinking today of banning all 32 bit and making the world 64 bit minimum.... weird you'd say that.

luk3yx

You'd ban this computer!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman I'd want to setup up something in LAMP like Kaz recommended. So is it in Apache or whatever?

luk3yx

I also noticed there are hardly any 16-bit things around.

Serg

32 bit os-es and apps are slowly being phased out. It's natural evolution

Nathan Osman

It exposes an HTTP server, so you could proxy that I guess.

But like I said - it's old.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:01

@luk3yx I made a DOS boot USB work today... But it's 32 GB flash drive even though Assembler architecture for DOS is really 20 bits... should be interesting exploring that one!

Nathan Osman

If you really want to give it a shot, the code can be fetched with:

bzr pull lp:~george-edison55/audataserver/trunk

You'll need Bazaar and Qt4 installed.

And a copy of the data dump.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman I do want to give it a shot next week. How can I bookmark your link so I can see it then?

Nathan Osman

Here's the code: bazaar.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/audataserver/trunk/files

luk3yx

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm off to look for a 64-bit processor.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@luk3yx If you don't have a 64-bit CPU already YOU ARE BANNED FROM THIS ROOM

Nathan Osman

01:03

If all you really want to do is search for Nvidia though, why not just use the XML in the data dump and grep it for nvidia?

That would be way easier.

luk3yx

This computer does, the OS doesn't.

If I need to, I'll switch to the other 64-bit one.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman i don't know how to do that. Indeed everytime I ask a question and search in AU it doesn't show me the dups. Only google does that.

@luk3yx I was joking when I said 32 bit users are banned :)

luk3yx

@WinEunuuchs2Unix So I decided to play along.

Nathan Osman

It's pretty easy. Start by grabbing the torrent from this page: archive.org/details/stackexchange

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@luk3yx Well Played as Captain Morgan says in commercials.

Nathan Osman

01:06

And then download the askubuntu.com.7z file.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I thought torrents were for pirates and the government comes after you....

Nathan Osman

No, no, no.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I remember bearshare form years ago.

Nathan Osman

Torrent is a protocol.

Just like HTTP.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Torrent is a methods for machines to connect together

Kaz Wolfe

01:07

Or just use Stack Exchange Data Explorer

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe That too but then you need to know SQL.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Kaz you are repeating yourself :-)

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman SQL is easy.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe ...until you need to do a complex JOIN or anything.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

They told me to learn SQL 2 decades ago @NathanOsman that's not necessarily a bad thing :)

Nathan Osman

01:08

Lol. I remember when the Ask Ubuntu data dump used to be 50 MB. It's now 500+ MB.

I'm gettin' old.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Then again a college tech told me I should learn UNIX in 1984 I didn't listen then....

@NathanOsman 500 MB sounds too small... sure you don't mean 500GB when all the screen shots are included?

Nathan Osman

Stack Overflow's is 10+ GB.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Images aren't included.

They are hosted externally.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

That makes sense actually.

All I really want to snag is the text anyway.

then index it to my own means :)

Nathan Osman

Yeah, the XML is really easy then.

Just grep the Posts.xml file inside the archive.

luk3yx

Why is remote X11 so slow if it has so much bandwidth to use?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:11

I don't understand XML or HTML though.

Nathan Osman

You don't need to.

Kaz Wolfe

@luk3yx latency.

Nathan Osman

grep will still work fine.

They are text formats.

And you're searching for text.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Sounds good... I think it'll be a fun project.

luk3yx

One day, I'll be banned from using 64-bit as well in favour/favor of 128-bit or 256-bit.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:13

Thanks for saying "favour" for the Cannucks in the room :p

luk3yx

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm sure it's only USA that spells "favour" "favor".

WinEunuuchs2Unix

FWIW I can't see 128-bit for a long time since they made 64-bit brain dead with 48-bit addressing... Just as bad in reverse of 8086 with 20 bit addressing like 8088 or whateever.

luk3yx

Okay.

Kaz Wolfe

first, let's kill little-endian

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@luk3yx Yet they claim to speak "English" whereas the rest of the world is "International English" in installation programs.

Kaz Wolfe

01:15

and the hell of a platform that is x86

ARM for life

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I'd like to keep my arms for the rest of my life ;)

luk3yx

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Correct.

Nathan Osman

p7zip is stupid.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well at least I was right once this year.

Nathan Osman

Sub items Errors: 8

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:17

I thought p7zip was preferrable to pkzip and pkunzip?

Nathan Osman

So what does it do? Deletes the original archive!!!

@WinEunuuchs2Unix 7-zip is basically LZMA, not the same as ZIP.

Kaz Wolfe

why are people still using CSM/legacy?

it's called bloody legacy for a reason

luk3yx

Is it possible to emulate 64-bit software under a 32-bit machine?

Nathan Osman

Same reason some people are using XP.

Kaz Wolfe

@luk3yx sorta, but all practical purposes say no.

luk3yx

01:18

@KazWolfe Okay.

Nathan Osman

@luk3yx Yes, but it will be slooooooooow.

Kaz Wolfe

hmmm..

@Zanna is awesome.

Nathan Osman

Example: booting a 64-bit Ubuntu VM with qemu takes 20+ minutes.

luk3yx

@NathanOsman So it's not worth it.

Nathan Osman

No, not really.

luk3yx

01:20

What would be the fastest way of sharing X11 via LAN? (I should ask these on the main site)

Nathan Osman

@luk3yx Fastest way?

luk3yx

@NathanOsman As-in the speed of the application.

Nathan Osman

Well, if security isn't important, it's basically just raw sockets over the network.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Congrats on France for having an international conference on two-state solution for Palestine on Israel. Only next time you have the conference (lots of juicy government expense account spending I know) try to have either Israel or Palestine attend, preferably both :p

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman aka the "why, oh god, why" solution

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:22

God is off-topic here!

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe On a private LAN, that's fine.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Not really.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman No, i'm talking about X11 over vlan

Nathan Osman

But if we're going to go into any depth on those type of topics, we prefer to switch rooms.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Nathan please ban Kaz...there is a 25$ Boston Pizza gift card in it for you :)

Nathan Osman

Just out of courtesy.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Dude, that is mighty tempting.

Kaz Wolfe

01:23

Do it and I ping shog.

Nathan Osman

But no. I must remain loyal to my responsibilities.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

who is shog?

Nathan Osman

Pats @KazWolfe on the head and says "Be a good wolf"...

Thomas Ward

@WinEunuuchs2Unix a CM

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Community Something-Or-Other.

Thomas Ward

01:24

someone whom is Godly

WinEunuuchs2Unix

careful wolves will bite the hands that pet them

Thomas Ward

and whom we do not poke unnecessarily

WinEunuuchs2Unix

CSOO= Community Something-Or-Other. not SHOG :)

Nathan Osman

Poke. Poke. Poke.

Serg

Shog is someone who can kill all the rep you have, so dont piss him off

Kaz Wolfe

01:25

but we do joke about poking unnecessarily.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Serg you and someone else lost 15k rep...more than I have :(

Nathan Osman

Basically what I have right now.

Kaz Wolfe

Mostly to ~~riot against~~ have fun with the mods.

and anyone who has been victim of the great rep recalc

Nathan Osman

"victim of the great rep recalc"

Lol.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

They aren't real mods in this chat room though... Real mods wouldn't hang out with average people.... they pretend to be Godly or something like that.

IanC

01:26

didn't find a shog user

Nathan Osman

ಠ_ಠ

WinEunuuchs2Unix

dungeons and dragons?

Nathan Osman

Shog9 ♦, Colorado, United States

101 2 13

Hey, @Serg, he's in your area.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

transgression user form another SE site when they have 101 rep.

IanC

@NathanOsman oh, I looked on "moderators"

Nathan Osman

01:28

He's a staff member.

I don't know if those show up under moderators or not.

Kaz Wolfe

only on MSE

WinEunuuchs2Unix

you can see staff members?...how handy

Nathan Osman

I need a new profile picture.

This one is nearly three years old...

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman Might I suggest a wolf?

Serg

@NathanOsman O_o

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:29

I can't change mine... the NSA won't be able to find me.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe No, you may not.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman I just did.

Nathan Osman

Awooo!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I recommend a Lynx for you @NathanOsman the name of my new Ubuntu-rip-off-distro-based-on-Linux.

IanC

Steelers game is on

and I can't watch it

3x0 so far

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:31

I have to pet on Superbowl at work, who is going to win?

Serg

Maybe i should be like "Hey, Shog, let's go for a beer" or something

Nathan Osman

Looking through recent photos...

IanC

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm cheering for Steelers :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

*Sends Serg a virtual beer, Thomas gets instant coffee

Nathan Osman

That's not particularly compelling.

Thomas Ward

01:32

diverts the instant coffee to Charcoal HQ

WinEunuuchs2Unix

awww Nathan you look as nice as your text.... at least something is real in this world

Kaz Wolfe

did someone say instant coffee?

*gags*

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix :D

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe This is why I didn't take it :P

Serg

doesn't mind instant coffee, takes it out of Charcoal HQ

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:33

I had a Tim Horton's coffee at Kingsway Mall today... I swear they put opiates in their coffee cream.

Nathan Osman

Ah, good ol' Tim Horton's.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I bought Tasters Choice instant coffee this afternoon at Safeway because it was on sale. Still too expensive but much better than Nescafe Rich Coffee.

Kaz Wolfe

please, instant coffee. if i wanted to drink liquid [redacted], i'd just go and [redacted] [redacted] to get my morning [redacted].

Nathan Osman

Caffeine. Is. Awesome.

That is all.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Ugghh Americans whining aobut loosing Obama Care because he who shall not be named got elected. They should have voted for Sanders.

In reality free healthcare like Canada has might be wastefull but it is better than free police or free military IMHO.

As one who avoids the former but has been pained by the latter I must say the former is preferable when you want to expand FIAT currency.

Nathan Osman

01:38

Americans whine about everything. (Not all of them but enough of them.)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Edmontonians whine about the Oilers not winning. shrugs

People seem to love to whine about the things they can't control

And let the things they can control disappear.

Serg

Will there ever be a day that I'm feeling 100% energetic and can do all the things I plan , and be productive ? Probably not

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I guess I'm guilty of being a person too.

luk3yx

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think we all are.

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Why... you won the last game? :D

WinEunuuchs2Unix

01:39

Not as long as you live under your parents roof and take 20 years to complete a 2 year college course Serg

@NathanOsman Thanks for saying I won the game.. but it's a 3 dimensional chess board don't you know ;)

I do think 2017 will be a great year though :)

Where a real male can talk to a real female.

Without the cops taking him down and lying in court.

luk3yx

Should I bother upgrading to 64-bit?

Nathan Osman

I would recommend it.

Then you get the best of both worlds.

Serg

I recommend,too

luk3yx

Any reasons?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

32 bit actually works for some things. Can't remember off the top of my head. But you can still use PAE whatever that means because I haven't dabbled in that.

IanC

01:44

@luk3yx I think because then you can run 64bit programs and also 32bit?

Serg

Because 32 bits can only make use of 4 GB ram

64 bit OS can use more

luk3yx

@Serg With PAE you can have more RAM.

Serg

But with 64 bit you don't need PAE no more

luk3yx

I "only" have 4GB of RAM.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Speaking of PAE... I'm going to run Windows XP Service Pack 3 compatibiiity mode under Windows 8.1 to run Mass Effect 3 for an hour or two...bbl

IanC

01:46

what I said went completely unnoticed

lol

luk3yx

@IanC You need 32-bit libraries.

Kaz Wolfe

@luk3yx or multiarch

Serg

At least in my experience, 64-bit works smoother, so meh . . . I always install 64 bits

IanC

@luk3yx but you can install the libraries, while you can't do anything to run a 64bit binary on 32bit. I think the better question is why to install 32bit instead of 64bit?

I know 64bit isn't all about performance gain (because of higher memory usage), but if you have 4GB I see no reason to stick with 32bit

Serg

@Zacharee1 OMG, this is gold: youtube.com/watch?v=19zPCedRGuE Pewds and Ken were playing rock paper scissors , and winner gets to control other person's computer for 30 seconds. Well, Pewds deleted Ken's System32 XD OMG

Zacharee1

02:00

Rip

Nathan Osman

Windows lets you do that?

Thomas Ward

lol

if you give it an admin "yes" then yes

Nathan Osman

@IanC Address space is another reason (at least on earlier versions of Windows). on 32-bit systems, Windows provided a 32-bit address space, meaning that applications could never allocate more than "x GB" of memory regardless of how much physical memory the system had. (Where "x" is always less than 4 GB".)

@ThomasWard I thought Windows still wouldn't let you do that (due to system file protection).

That and the fact that lots of DLLs in there are going to be in use.

IanC

@NathanOsman 4GB including swapped memory?

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman you can delete enough that it won't boot

Nathan Osman

02:12

@IanC Yes.

@Zacharee1 That's dumb.

IanC

gotta get ready for work

see you all later, good night!

Serg

02:27

I derp, therefore I am . . .

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman you have to remember this is Windows.

Journeyman Geek

02:51

THIS. IS. SPAAAAAARTTTAAAAAAAA!

You're rarely going to hit the 3gb process limit tho

Nathan Osman

@JourneymanGeek it is configurable and defaults to 2 GB.

At least it did on Vista.

Don't know about late versions.

Journeyman Geek

@IanC personally, if I have less than 2gb of memory, I go 32 bit. If I have exactly 2gb of memory, I curse the gods and rue the day.... (actually I don't remember what that system has). If I have 3gb onwards, I go 64 bit

Nathan Osman

That was the last 32-bit edition of Windows I used.

Journeyman Geek

My dad's PC's on 32 bit

it barely meets the windows 10 official minimum spec ;p

Serg

@JourneymanGeek Sparta was still better than Windows

Journeyman Geek

03:00

@Serg is it the year of the linux desktop yet?

Serg

looks down on my Ubuntu laptop, then at pop's Chromebook . . .it's getting there @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

(also, I'm of the opinion 4gb is a minimum for most poweruser builds)

Serg

$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.7G        1.6G        3.2G        402M        2.9G        5.4G
Swap:          3.0G          0B        3.0G

3 Gb of swap are from my swap files which I've never bothered to delete after testing my addswap script

I don't have swap partition

sigh . . . I should find something to work on

Ronnie Marlow

I got a good question for everyone here. Do you rely on the Ubuntu Server Guide 2017 PDF

Is it worth it? I think it is?

Advice

Seth

Serg

03:17

@RonnieMarlow never seen that book

@Seth what a high praise

Seth

@Serg ikr!

Serg

@muru did you vote it as off topic ? askubuntu.com/q/872391/295286

Ronnie Marlow

I want to learn about servers I thought it would be a good area to study and know about?

muru

@Serg yes

In general I do so for VPS questions for which the only real answer often is: Contact the host.

Serg

@muru why ? OP uses supported Ubuntu version , it's perfectly fine here

Nathan Osman

03:23

I have 8 GB in my laptop, 16 GB in my desktop.

And believe me, 4K video editing benefits from 16 GB :P

Serg

03:36

@Seth OP posted exact same problem he was having before since the other one didn't attract attention: askubuntu.com/q/869934/295286 Can we merge those ? Or at least nuke one of them ?

Nathan Osman

The award for trolliest TV Guide listing ever goes to Scotland's Sunday Herald....brilliant!!! Unfortunately now Tr… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/820639244968480768

Tweeted by scottwrynn on January 15, 2017 at 2:30 PM

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LOOOOOOL.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

03:57

You know these Congressmen who refuse to attend Trump's inauguration because he isn't a visible minority like them could turn out badly for them in their political stunts.

Serg

@NathanOsman um . . .can I ask a stupid question ?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You mean a question like mine? :p

he'll answer them ;)

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