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09:02

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Q: Please don't just vote posts up because you feel sorry for them getting voted down

Please don't just vote bad posts up because you feel sorry for people who got voted down, it completely undermines the point of voting and wastes other peoples votes. Today I voted this post down, it is bad, there is no way anyone can think it is good. It is vague, off topic, shows a lack of res...

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James Tobin

I do that :o

Serg

@JamesTobin bad practice. Use discretion when voting for posts

James Tobin

I do use a little of it.. sometimes though I think it is a noob who is really doing his best and isnt neccesary to have voted down

Zanna

Posts are unnecessarily downvoted but that is not a good reason to upvote them :)

James Tobin

oh ok

@Zanna what happens to a person if his/her post is downvoted?

Zanna

09:13

they feel sad

James Tobin

lol

doesnt take away reputation?

Zanna

it does, but not if they are a new user

you can never have less than 1

James Tobin

lol

Zanna

only -2

James Tobin

so if someone is unnecesarily downvoted and they dont have a lot of points they dont get privileges as soon and it isnt their fault.. shouldnt I help lol

Zanna

09:15

upvote if you think a post is good, and that's it

James Tobin

oh kay exclamational point

Zanna

voting isn't personal... it's for the site's quality

James Tobin

(Y)

Zanna

if you're thinking "oh I wanna give this person points" that's nice, but not helpful for the overall glory of AU. It's all about the content...

James Tobin

oh ok so if I think a question is good but it's downvoted I can upvote based on content even if I saw a similar one with a lot of votes would not bother even though I liked it?

Zanna

09:20

yeah absolutely

James Tobin

oh ok then :) that's good

Zanna

oh I misread...

James Tobin

ah dang

Zanna

if it has a lot of votes and you like it, then go ahead and upvote it

why not?

James Tobin

yes I may as well but thats not the point

sometimes I am in a rush lol;

I am sometimes very fast when using computer

Zanna

09:22

you mean upvoting takes too long ?? 0.o

James Tobin

lol I just dont even think about. Like if I pull up a linux command answer from a termminal and I am russhin no longer English hahaha and i wanna just really quick copy it and paste it into my darned terminal and move allong lol

guess it doesnt take long but you should see me sometimes lol

I am qb64 programmer, a language based on old DOS qbasic

the shell function lets me run anything

If I am not on qb64 I am on qbasic on my DOS 6.00

I have to go now, see you later @zanna ;)

Zanna

ciao

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

09:38

ciao indeed

Ask Ubuntu Meta

09:49

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Q: Why there are so many unanswered network-wifi related questions?

I am surprised by the amount of wifi-network-related questions without an answer. If you look below, combined they amount for almost as much as 14.04 tags alone! Is people less willing to help on those questions? Are solutions specific to each particular case? Is that hardware the most pro...

discussion

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James Tobin

10:45

@AskUbuntuMeta very good question

Zanna

the answer is obvious... many people have problems with networking, because of the stupid companies who make networking hardware and don't pay people to write Linux drivers, the problems are device-specific, and most of us can only answer questions that relate to our own devices

Anwar

11:21

the partition question is a dup i guess?

Zanna

I duped it? or was there another?

Anwar

another one. you edited

Zanna

oh yeah

Anwar

I wrote an answer, then thought i can be a dup.

deleted then

this

Zanna

meh, I would undelete... OP doesn't seem to think it is a dupe

you know, I'm a bit wary of marking everything a dupe... I'm not sure i agree that it's always better if everything is in one place and answers are as generic as possible... sometimes information is more accessible in multiple places and presented in different ways

Anwar

11:30

agreed

Serg

Hitler uses git

►

Anwar

in this case, he has an lvm2 partition. don't know if these are same as unallocated space

Serg

Funny. The line about emacs cracked me up.

Unfor-git-able

Zanna

lol

edwinksl

"pimply faced linux groupie"

Anwar

11:36

it's different

user136984

Does anyone know if there is some sort of GNOME roadmap?

edwinksl

first hit on google wiki.gnome.org/RoadMap

user136984

11:50

@edwinksl: Ah, well, it's not exactly very helpful... It just gives previous RoadMaps, not what's planned for 3.22 and how it's going, that's what I want to know.

user136984

It's fine, I found the right page though. They seem to be doing a complete redesign for the gnome-control-center, it's going to look really nice and nothing like the unity-control-center which is what it currently looks like! :)

edwinksl

where is the right page?

user136984

@edwinksl: This one.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: maximizedmuscleideas.com/booty-back-cream/ by robertamin on askubuntu.com

Henry WH Hack v2.0

12:09

Off Topic: askubuntu.com/questions/814552/linux-mint-17-3

I think.

edwinksl

unclear why installing a os that is targeted by WAY MORE viruses helps rofl

Zanna

"You have a virus problem on a Linux system so let's install Windows"... um...

3

yellow is blue and I am a frog

edwinksl

hahaha

also i feel bad for OP's sister who got conned by the "technician"

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Maybe his OS is really Windows pretending to be Linux Mint.

Zanna

12:24

yeah me too... some 'technician'

edwinksl

remove a virus by installing a virus that is m$, got it

Zanna

zakly

edwinksl

i suspect many shops get a commission for installing windows

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Hold up "In the end the technician installed Windows 7" the OP just went from good to worst. :O

edwinksl

i mean, i respect people's freedom to choose their own OS

but installing windows to avoid viruses is stupidity of the highest order

Zanna

12:38

I agree surely ulterior motives must be at the root of such foolery

edwinksl

:S

Zanna

I might install Ubuntu for my Mum this weekend :)

edwinksl

she asked you to do it?

Zanna

yeah a while ago

edwinksl

she must be intrigued by the "hacking things" you do every day

i know i would be if i didn't know what is going on

Zanna

12:51

yeah totally, she is like "what is this nut you are on about?"

edwinksl

does she have a broadcom card

Zanna

hehe good question...

gotta go get train! x

edwinksl

13:09

later :)

user136984

Why on earth is YouTube recommending me the Google Chrome channel with strange videos like this?

user136984

Lil BUB's Magical Yule LOG Video

►

user136984

:D

user136984

I don't like cats and I don't like Google Chrome! :D

user136984

Well, I don't have anything hugely against cats, I'm just more of a dog person, though I will stop for cuddles if one is available. :P

edwinksl

13:12

maybe google has data showing a correlation between people liking hamsters and cats :P

user136984

Hmm...

user136984

Did you find my Beasty Basil YouTube video by the way? It's really cute, if you like fat fluffy hamsters that is... :D

edwinksl

dude you have a TON of hamster videos

i only watched the first one

user136984

I have 3 real good ones, the first one I ever uploaded, the one with the frontflip, and my latest one with Beasty Basil.

user136984

And I really don't know why I am watching that strange cat video right now... :D

edwinksl

13:15

"beasty basil" is quite the name for a hamster

user136984

Well, if you look at the video, you'll see why... :P

user136984

No no no, no more of that cat video! It's actually rather creepy! :D

user136984

That's one scary cat... :D

edwinksl

why is beasty basil so fat lmao

looks like you overfed it

user136984

No, he just met the other hamster Toto, he was really small back then and called "Baby Basil". :D

user136984

13:19

Toto sort of attacked him and he realised how big and bad the world he lived in really was, so he decided to industrially militarise and becoming the fattest and toughest hamster of all time! >:D

user136984

He really was such a tame sweet little thing, but now he's big and nippy. Actually a lot of what you see is muscle and not fat.

IanC

13:35

good morning!!

user136984

Howdy there! ;)

user136984

@A.B.: Oh! You're back! :)

user136984

How are you?

CodeX

Afternoon

Henry WH Hack v2.0

13:52

@IanC Hello! :)

@CodeX Hello! :)

IanC

Hello @HenryWHHackv2.0!

CodeX

@HenryWHHackv2.0 heyy ☺

Anwar

OP solved it askubuntu.com/q/729463/61218

Henry WH Hack v2.0

14:25

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A: How do we get more questions asked in our private beta?

My suggestion will be advertisements the community can hold an ad competition and the winner or winners (the person/persons with the best ad) will get there ad placed on the other Stack Exchange sites. (To break it down: Just legally advertise the site on other SE sites.)

Wow I thought I was going to be down voted! :)

13 hours latter and my edit is still pending: i2p.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/56? :(

Anwar

After renaming evolution folders name in /usr/lib I finally have managed to reduce the memory consumption of MATE under 1GB.

evolution is evil

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Anwar >:)

Anwar

@HenryWHHackv2.0 :D

sudo mv evoluton evolution-disabled

My loved command of the week

CodeX

Your connection is not private

Attackers might be trying to steal your information from meta.i2p.stackexchange.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

@Anwar .. you want to use lesser memory and I want to use more

Anwar

14:48

@CodeX depends on multiple factors.

jeremy

15:25

@Zanna i'm typing up the qa

dino

hi @jeremy

jeremy

@dino hi

dino

nice mountains you got there.

jeremy

lol thank you

edwinksl

@dino when are you getting a new picture

dino

15:28

@jeremy The kind of mountains that people would claim to have made it themselves

jeremy

don't take my profile pic -.-

dino

@edwinksl Good question

jeremy

:D

dino

@jeremy You maked this? I maked this.

jeremy

haha oh boy

dino

15:29

@jeremy lol don't worry. You are the only person to remind me of that person.

jeremy

haha that was so weird

dino

wait what?

jeremy

that person

dino

oh yes, yes it was.

jeremy

the whole endeavor

dino

15:32

yep. How is life these days?

jeremy

brought me to debian

just spent a few days trying to install a broadcom driver on debian

dino

lol must have been fun.

jeremy

f broadcom and their drivers

all i had to do was update my kernel

and it works

dino

there was a poor soul fighting with broadcom just last week.

jeremy

haha

networks card issue?

dino

15:35

I think so

jeremy

0

A: WiFi not working with Broadcom 43ba driver

The notes for the chip BCM43602 say: "Supported in 3.17+". You probably have an older kernel. Check by running: uname -r Update your kernel to >= 3.17 and everything will work properly.

edwinksl

@jeremy upvoted for your efforts at dealing with the broadcom monster

jeremy

@edwinksl thank you

Zanna

@jeremy easy peasy after all... upvoted

jeremy

yep, after a few days

haha

@zanna read under "I haven't done the step that reads" is that correct?

any ideas why E: Package 'google-chrome-stable' has no installation candidate?

edwinksl

15:59

isn't the standard way to install google chrome to download the deb from google and then do dpkg -i?

jeremy

i've tried

let me tell you what it says

 google-chrome-stable depends on libappindicator1; however:
  Package libappindicator1 is not installed.

edwinksl

are you on debian?

jeremy

and libappindicator1 has no installation candidate when i try to apt-get install it

Zanna

yeah @jeremy I figure you got that right - it's not the sdio driver in your case

jeremy

i am on debian. i changed my sources.list, that might be the issue?

@Zanna okay good

Zanna

16:01

sounds like sources.list issue yeah... what did you do?

jeremy

deb http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main non-free
deb-src http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main non-free

deb httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free

deb security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free

i needed backports to update linux kernel

Zanna

so you just added stuff, not take anything away?

jeremy

um

Zanna

oh you had to...

jeremy

i think i copied from wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

under "If you also want the contrib and non-free components, add contrib non-free after main:"

but changed the first one to backports

Zanna

16:09

guess you're missing the... non backports one then

edwinksl

so you are still missing

deb httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free

which is the main repo for, well, most packages that you need

Zanna

this ^

jeremy

do i add it under the backports?

Zanna

order doesn't matter

edwinksl

to back up a bit, i am actually curious how you added backports

because according to backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index2h2, you should have added something different

Zanna

16:13

sorry I'm at home haha getting told off for being 'in a chat room'

jeremy

@edwinksl hm

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free

edwinksl

i am guessing it doesn't matter

jeremy

i'm still getting the same thing

libappindicator1 issue

edwinksl

did you sudo apt-get update

jeremy

yes

edwinksl

16:17

packages.debian.org/…

it is there though

jeremy

ah, i got it

apt-get install -f

edwinksl

that's fine too. i thought you wanted to install libappindicator first before installing chrome

jeremy

that's how it had to happen b/c of libappindicator1's dependencies

or something

Zanna

magic haha so many posts on AU like "apt install -f didn't work"

edwinksl

@Zanna and in these cases, every system is broken in its own unique way that it takes a lot of time to figure out what is happening

Zanna

16:21

yeah >_<

edwinksl

i wonder what people did to make apt fail to resolve dependencies

i install a ton of stuff and have yet to perform the apt install -f magic

Zanna

same

edwinksl

nice

Zanna

maybe we're just lucky

edwinksl

so i can't really help those folks since i actually have zero exp with it

Zanna

16:23

or maybe it's cause we respect the snakes haha

dino

@SmokeDetector clever

edwinksl

snake haters/deleters/removers need to be educated

Zanna

is that spam?

dino

yeah nope.

Looks legit.

edwinksl

went from -2 to +1, magic

Zanna

16:28

I looked and thought it seemed reasonable

edwinksl

doesn't look like spam but also rather unclear :/

lol reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4ykuye/…

Zanna

hahahahahaahaha

edwinksl

dat osception

Zanna

checks dictionary.com ... finds nothing ... laughs politely

edwinksl

someone in reddit argued it is more accurate to call it oscursion

Zanna

16:40

that's interesting, what is the argument? a mathematical argument?

edwinksl

it is reddit, you can hardly expect that

Zanna

hahaha

edwinksl

but i think it is a great question that someone can answer using sound arguments

but which SE site would that be

Zanna

that's a good question... ask it on meta SE

edwinksl

that is a wild place

Zanna

16:44

indeed... we inhabit a nice sheltered corner

edwinksl

SO and MSE are harsh environments

Zanna

(is it just me, or is anyone else unenlightened by the apple - answer analogy? I don't get anything out of that at all!)

dino

Oh, it's the weekend.

edwinksl

@Zanna which one is that?

Zanna

your answer is in another castle is one place that has it... meta.stackexchange.com/questions/225370/…

Here is is by itself i.sstatic.net/vAUaw.png (I don't wanna make a big box)

dino

16:50

What's not clear about it?

When you say oranges when the answer should have been apples, then it is NAA.

Zanna

well none of those are SE answers, even the shiny healthy one... is an apple. and not an answer.

dino

When you a picture showing where to find the apples instead of the apple itself, it is link only.

Zanna

aaaah OK, that helps

dino

When you can barely tell if it is even an apple or anything for that matter, then it is low quality.

edwinksl

this is worth remembering

If I ask you for an apple that can be made into a pie while maintaining a complex flavor and holding its shape... And you give me a Red Delicious... That's a wrong answer, @Marti. If you give me an orange, you're not even wrong; you haven't answered at all. We can rank every apple on earth according to its suitability for an apple pie, but there is no useful score for an orange when it comes to this purpose. Similarly, no amount of downvoting will turn "I have this problem too, halp?" into even a wrong answer. — Shog9 ♦ Feb 23 at 18:10

dino

16:53

When the apple is not wholesome as it should be to be a complete answer, then it is partial answer.

@edwinksl Aaarghh

Nathan Osman

Hello.

Anwar

approve this askubuntu.com/questions/814351/… anyone please

Nathan Osman

Happy Saturday for those who are still in it :D

Anwar

hi

what's special about this saturday?

dino

Saturday for another 1.5 hours

Anwar

16:54

same here

Nathan Osman

Saturday is not a weekday.

edwinksl

August 20: St. Stephen's Day in Hungary

Nathan Osman

It's a weekend day.

Anwar

oh. i got it

Nathan Osman

Let's all move to Hungary \o/

Zanna

16:56

@Anwar I upvoted that already

@edwinksl nicely caught haha

Anwar

well wait ...

I'm saying to approve the edit on heemayl's post @Zanna

edwinksl

@Zanna i got that from wikipedia. i love that particular section on wikipedia's frontpage

August 20, 14 – The adopted son of Roman emperor Augustus Agrippa Postumus, was executed by his guards while in exile under mysterious circumstances.

wut?

Anwar

because I mistakenly clicked reject

edwinksl

your fat finger mistake will live forever in history askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/606791

Anwar

:(

the highlighting hard to detect

anyway, my mistake

Zanna

17:03

yeah I wish there was a view option with no highlighting

sorry Anwar, the link I followed just took me to the comment on your answer, so I was confused

dino

it was a trick

Anwar

I took the link from modal dialog!

what trick?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Kubuntu 16.04 - Touchpad not working by Shahmeer Qasim on askubuntu.com

edwinksl

another snake hater askubuntu.com/questions/814577/…

dino

what snake? Oh..

Zanna

17:09

haha who upvoted? no votes for snake killers!

Stefano posted a nice answer to one of those last week? we can dupe...

here askubuntu.com/questions/810854/…

edwinksl

yeah that would probably work

although that question has been marked as a dupe

not sure what dupe target to pick here lol

Zanna

I'd go for the one with the best answer

edwinksl

ok i am gonna to do it

Zanna

17:24

I dunno why I'm hesitating haha don't wanna be the first to jump

nice extra comment

edwinksl

no worries fam i will take one for the team

Zanna

Maybe Ubuntu should give you a popup on first login saying "by the way, if you hurt Python, Ubuntu will be FUBAR"

edwinksl

it indirectly says that by showing a HUGE list of things to be removed :P

it's kinda like EULA i guess; nobody reads wall of text

Zanna

haha yeah I am familiar with it... I had a... gtk issue...

Henry WH Hack v2.0

I always read EULAs everything I install software.

Zanna

17:29

I have NEVER read a EULA...

edwinksl

@HenryWHHackv2.0 you read every single word? good for you

Nathan Osman

I don't read them if I recognize the license.

Anwar

@HenryWHHackv2.0 I read the EULA of the first software I installed ever

Nathan Osman

If it's GPL, there's no need to re-read the GPL every time I install something.

Zanna

I read part of one recently, and I was surprised to find a section "you acknowledge that this software is not intended for use in the manufacture of nuclear weapons"

edwinksl

17:30

uh oh @Zanna should we know what you are up to

Zanna

It was an Android file browser... seemed superfluous to me...

Nathan Osman

It's not FOSS-compliant then.

It shouldn't have usage restrictions :D

Zanna

Yes @NathanOsman quite right, as RMS explains...

Nathan Osman

That being said, if you are using a file manager to build nuclear weapons, there's something else wrong.

Zanna

That was before I ditched my HTC One and got Fairphone 2 with completely free software (except the firmware blobs)

Henry WH Hack v2.0

17:35

Windows is so bad my mouse stoped working after waking my computer from sleep. :(

:D

Zanna

that used to happen to me in Ubuntu, tbf

had to modprobe something to fix it

Seth

@Zanna @NathanOsman "not intended for" is not a usage restriction.

More like a liability waiver.

Zanna

yeah I agree @Seth

I expended an unreasonable amount of thought on it

edwinksl

17:55

"16.04 LTS (Xenophobic Xylophone)"?????????????????

i actually loled

Zanna

wherezzat?

dino

@Seth lawyer in the making?

Seth

@dino in this day and age everyone has to have a little lawyer in them :(

edwinksl

-1

Q: 16.04 LTS upgrade issue and 64 bit architecture

I was running 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) and on a routine update was offered the opportunity to upgrade to 16.04 LTS (Xenophobic Xylophone) which ,for my sins, I decided to to do. I wish I hadn't as the massive amount of work I did getting Pepper flash to work instead of Shockwave has been undone an...

14.04 16.04 upgrade 64-bit lts

Nathan Osman

@Seth Correct. To be fair, however, I have seen EULAs that do expressly forbid that.

Seth

18:00

@NathanOsman I'm not surprised.

dino

@NathanOsman I think iTunes comes in that list.

Seth

I am always amused at how people try to extend their beliefs into what people do with the stuff they make.

Zanna

who pinged?

dino

edwin

Zanna

haha that post is sympathy-inducing... I like it

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

18:03

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Q: Running tar cmd in wrong format, how to recover

Trying to tar a file called report, but accidentally running wrong format ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 708 Aug 20 10:12 report /var/tmp$ tar czvf report report.tar.gz then ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45 Aug 20 10:13 report how to recover the original file? Thanks

debian ubuntu

Zanna

18:25

@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L I think it's gone my friend

edwinksl

rip report

Zanna

yep

I had a go... it errors out unless the second argument is a real file

but if you specify some file... the second file is unaffected, the first argument turns into useless un-tar-able binary junk... but maybe there is a way to fix it!

Thanks for clarifying this for me @Anwar ! :) askubuntu.com/questions/814673/…

Zanna

18:46

nothing left haha askubuntu.com/posts/814682/revisions

edwinksl

lol

dino

oh man Lee lost his gold? :'(

Anwar

@Zanna you're welcome. but what was the confusion /

edwinksl

@dino i am surprised lin dan didn't even get a mdeal

dino

@edwinksl equally surprising.

Lee vs Lin Dan should have been the final.

Zanna

18:50

I am just really curious about Squashfs... @Anwar

dino

But squash is not in Olympics.

edwinksl

@dino agree, that's the el classico of badminton

Zanna

hahaha ^_^

dino

@edwinksl ~~the~~ el classico

edwinksl

:P

Anwar

18:52

oh. the installation is just copying this filesystem into the real hard drive and then some configuration

edwinksl

@dino which is very surprising. squash should be in olympics

dino

@edwinksl lol but if it was the final, we know who would have won it.

Zanna

Yeah... I want to understand really well, so I know exactly how to manipulate it

edwinksl

@dino it would still be fun to watch two legends go at each other :P

now malaysia will probably have 0 gold medal

dino

@edwinksl that rally towards the end in the semi final was top class

@edwinksl Lee broke their hearts

edwinksl

18:55

@dino i didn't watch this olympics :( but i watched london 2012 finals

dino

oh dang

edwinksl

i might just watch the semis later though :P

Zanna

even if it has 0 gold medals, Malaysia will still have... awesome biodiversity...

edwinksl

^lol random words of consolation

dino

yeah, what was that..

MFW North Korea has more medals than India.

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