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Serg

14:00

@ThomasW. well, i've a question about choosing a network switch. Cisco switches are pretty expensive and bulky , from what i see on amazon, there's smaller TP-LINK and linksys alternatives there. Does it matter which manufacturer the switch is from ? Or is cisco that giant and powerful that one should absolutely learn it ?

cc @Terrance

terdon

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Zacharee1

wait what

Serg

@Zacharee1 he moved off-topic posts from that room to here

Zacharee1

ok

terdon

@Zacharee1 I just moved a discussion between two candidates that had nothing to do with the election here so as to keep the election room on topic.

Zacharee1

14:06

@Serg tsk tsk

Serg

what ? I was right . . .

Videonauth

@terdon thank you :)

Serg

Morning, Videonauth

terdon

@Videonauth np

Videonauth

good evening Sergiy

Serg

14:13

@Videonauth @terdon do you guys know anything about network switches ?

terdon

not really, no

Videonauth

not much, regarding your question

terdon

However, buying some kind of hotshot, professional cisco one just to learn on it seems like overkill.

Serg

that's exactly what i was thinking

i am just curious does it matter what manufacturer the switch is from

cl-netbox

Hello :)

terdon

14:17

I really don't know but I'd guess the only differences would be in the firmware (if any) and once you know one, you can figure out others quickly.

Serg

hi netbox

terdon

o/

Videonauth

o/

Zacharee1

@Videonauth I thought you say Sergly :P

Serg

@Zacharee1 yes, that's my real name

Zacharee1

14:18

@Serg Not Sergiy, Sergly, with an L

Serg

@Zacharee1 ah . . . well , that's the second time this morning i encounter this issue i and l can look very similar

Zacharee1

:p

cl-netbox

Hi @Serg @Seth @Videonauth @Zacharee1 ! :)
Hi terdon (without ping) ! :)

Zacharee1

hi

Seth

@James Didn't know that was even possible!

Serg

14:22

Basically, what i wanna do is get this little guy with 5 ports, and plenty of ethernet wires. I've couple laptops and an old hp workstation, but the router is in the kitchen, so probably ethernet will cost a bit, while i can save up on the switch

I mean, I would need ethernet only for a few things : raspberry, the workstation, maybe a laptop , and that's it

Zacharee1

You just need a switch?

Serg

@Zacharee1 yes, and whole bunch of wires . . . .well, just trying to build a home lab, step by step

Zacharee1

Get an 8 port switch then

So you have extras

Serg

that's an option. So far i can only pin point 3 machines i would really want to connect, so that fits into the 5-port switch

8-port switch is only $12.28 . . . hmmm, not bad

Zacharee1

Yeah, but if you're building a work area, you're going to be getting more stuff eventually

Serg

14:26

You're right . . .I'll go with 8-port switch then

Zacharee1

I don't think you need to bother with a smart switch, but you could if you want :p

Serg

what's the difference ?

Zacharee1

Smart switches have web interfaces and you can control the ports

Like set two ports to act as one so you could get a 2Gb/s connection between two smart routers

fun stuff

Serg

Ah . . . sounds nice. I'll just start with the basics, i guess, then upgrade as necessary

ok, smoke time, gtg check on my cat

Zacharee1

> IP traffic sent to customers on ports TCP 25, TCP 80, TCP 443, TCP 445, TCP 1080, TCP 6667-6669, TCP 1433-1434, TCP & UDP 135-139, TCP & UDP 67 are blocked for security and network management reasons to minimize customer's computers from being virus infected through well known vulnerabilities and/or to avoid infected or hostile computers from affecting other users computers.

AGH

And that's for the business plans

And I want to point out they say "IP traffic are blocked" if the preposition is taken out

Videonauth

14:35

What a bullcrap, they blocked this for being able to earn twice by seeling server space

Zacharee1

idk if Service Electric has VPSes

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Terrance

@Serg So, you're looking to learn switches? VLANing, smart, etc?

@Serg Or personal switches?

Zacharee1

14:38

nuuu

Azure needs me to put in a credit card

Serg

@Terrance personal, gonna build small home network, possibly extending that to pentesting in future

Terrance

@Serg Ah, OK. Personally I go with the Linksys switches. But I also have switches in locations as breakouts for devices. One thing to remember is that the more switches you have, the more latency it adds.

Serg

@Zacharee1 Azure is like digitalocean right ?

Zacharee1

I think

it has free plans so I want to try it out

But my PayPal debit card won't work

Serg

@Terrance why Linksys ? Any particular reason or just personal preference ?

Zacharee1

14:42

Wait, now it works

I had the wrong address

Terrance

@Serg Mostly personal preference. Plus I have a Linksys WRT1900AC router. :) But I have had some issues with NetGear in the past, but Belkin has always been solid for me, but not very configurable.

Byte Commander

Nooooooo! >__<

Serg

I see

@ByteCommander <.< what happened ?

cl-netbox

@ByteCommander What happened ? Hi my friend ! :)

Byte Commander

I just typed 90% of my mod nomination post and then my wifi-whatever crashed and logged me out.

Terrance

14:45

@ByteCommander OUCH!!

Byte Commander

I regret not having written the concept on a piece of paper now. :/

Serg

well . . . another argument for typing a draft in a text editor and then copying it

Byte Commander

Restarting from scratch...

Le Sigh!

Serg

Restarting from scratch seems like a common theme this summer

Byte Commander

Why?

Serg

14:47

<.< i don't wanna mention it

Terrance

@Serg Oh, right now, TP-Link is one of the only companies so far that has jumped back on the FCC rules for not having flashable firmware to run like DD-WRT, where Linksys has said that they will allow it still on all their WRTs.

Byte Commander

whatever...

Serg

@Terrance that . . . is totally above my head ^_^ no clue what DD-WRT is

Terrance

@Serg DD-WRT allows you to setup your router to your own liking. SSH access to it, etc. I have all my ad blocking happening at my router level instead of each system. :)

Serg

oh, that's handy

Videonauth

14:49

hehehe Sergiy i supress my urge to make a sarcastic/funny remark :D

Terrance

It's really nice! Plus it allows for configuring power to the antennas. I have no need for that, but it is nice to know I have all that access to it. :)

Serg

@Videonauth please do , a bit of humor never killed anyone . . .except Joker from Batman . . .

terdon

@Serg Not true!

World's Funniest Joke

►

Serg

@terdon

Terrance

@Serg Plus DD-WRT is fully Open Source. :) dd-wrt.com/site/index

Videonauth

14:53

@Serg I guess DD-WRT is something like RTFM :p

just kidding

Serg

coincidentally , both have RT there . . . sigh . . .reading and reading

Videonauth

@Serg use proxtube on Firefox and this isn't your problem anymore

Tim

Boy, the rabbit hole of open source dependencies...

Serg

B the way, some time ago, i have seen some people set proxy on browser set to localhost

what's the use of that ?

Terrance

@Serg If they do it for certain websites, that can be used for ad blocking etc.

Rinzwind

14:57

@terdon O

terdon

@Serg Wha! They block Monty Python!? The gall!

@Serg try this one

@Rinzwind A classic!

Rinzwind

@terdon They had soooooooo many classics

Terrance

@Serg Or, they have a DNS proxy on their own system

Thomas W.

@Serg It depends? Workplaces I've been to like Cisco because they started with it. Lots of places I know use HP switches. The Internet at my apartment has a mix of switches but I don't need advanced equipment sets of Cisco or HP as much. I am probably not the most qualified to answer that though

probably the network design people would be better to answer that

because they all have similar feature sets

but depending on what drives the core of the network, usually helps drive the switches in place

Serg

@terdon that werks

holly balls, that laugh is really like Joker's

@ThomasW. well i have a pretty old motorolla router here - that will be driving my nework. Since it's pretty much similar feature sets, i guess i'll just go with the cheap tp-link one for now

side note : what on earth am I doing really ? I am electrical engineering major and should be blowing capacitors and burning resistors right now. Why am I trying to learn IT stuff ?

user136984

15:09

@SeverusTux You just have to make sure that your image is of that size as it doesn't resize it for you.

Bharadwaj Raju

Can we delete this quick?: askubuntu.com/questions/785269/…

Serg

@Seth ^

personal info in comments

Seth

where?

jokerdino

Deleted

Seth

oh I see it. jokerdino beat me.

Serg

15:14

Good job, mod team

Rinzwind

@Serg seth just sat back :=)

Serg

Speaking of jokes, i just been listening to an audio for level 6 chinese proficiency test, and one of the listening exercises was a joke: an economist and biologist were jogging in the woods, and encountered a grizzly bear; the biologist said "Don't run, we can't outrun a bear" , but economist kept running and yelled back "Maybe i can't outrun the bear, but i can outrun you" ( meaning that he left the biologist to be eaten by bear )

On the side note, that's horrible

#real_friendship

Byte Commander

Okay, I've rewritten my nomination from scratch and submitted it. Although it's now in a completely different style than before, I think its quality improved. Any suggestions? askubuntu.com/election/5#post-786101

Serg

moderation badges: 7/8
editing badges: 6/6

Nice !

Seth

@ByteCommander you.. never posted the first?

Serg

15:23

his wifi crashed

Byte Commander

@Seth No. I had trouble with my wifi signal strength and wanted to disable and enable wifi again to refresh the connection. Something crashed and logged me out.

Serg

@Seth @ByteCommander so gpg --gen-key takes long time and lacks entropy . . .question is , how do i get enough of that freakin entropy ?

Byte Commander

I believe it was airodump-ng...

@Serg I made my GPG key with seahorse. It lacks any kind of progress notification in 16.04, but after moving a few windows around, it was finished in few seconds.

Oh, it's time for food - and for my laptop to get charged... 7% remaining

BBL

@Serg If the reputation score would still be on 20/20 instead of 13, it would be even nicer...

But now really BBL!

user136984

Oh my god... I just heard about the mass shooting in America... We live in a very sad world...

Serg

@ParanoidPanda we live in a very stupid world , where people don't value life enough

especially other people's lives

cl-netbox

15:31

@ParanoidPanda @Serg ^^^ yes ! I agree with you ! Have you seen what happened in Marseille yesterday ?

Videonauth

@Serg just let the terminal open and use your computer, move the mouse let it compute whatever this generates entropy

@serg youre going to sign up for moderator too ?

Serg

i try to use seahorse but it never shows anything

soo command line it is

@Videonauth just wanna see how much do i qualify

I am not good at moderating anyway

so this is just a test

still stuck at 300 bytes :/

been moving around chromium and terminal window, but no luck

Videonauth

@serg tht takes a moment just watch video, code something or do whatever you normaly do just leave the terminal open

Bharadwaj Raju

@Serg tree / should generate enough entropy.

Serg

find / seems to help too

94 more bytes

YESSSS

while true ; do find / && tree / ; done

that did the trick

@Videonauth where do i publish ? keyserver.ubuntu.com ?

Videonauth

15:44

yep

Serg

@Videonauth does ubuntu one name have to be the same as the key ? im still seeing an error when copying the fingerprint to launchpad

Videonauth

no not has to be that same, maybe the keyserver takes a moment; I'm not sure i never had those issues

Serg

ok, very good, got an email

Byte Commander

@Serg You need the enigmail plugin if you use Thunderbird to read the encrypted content.

Videonauth

then you can either copy&paste the pgp block at the end into a text file and run through `gpg -d -u <key> <file> or you use enigmail or something similar

Zacharee1

15:57

can someone try going to x-p-w.tk?

Byte Commander

Oh, I just saw that @terdon and me are the only candidates with all noteworthy badges on elections.stackexchange.com/#askubuntu

Videonauth

@Zacharee1 The page isn't redirecting properly

Zacharee1

yeah

Serg

gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available

Videonauth

@ByteCommander yeah :-s

Byte Commander

15:58

@Zacharee1 Not until you tells us why and what that page is about...

Zacharee1

I wanted to make sure it wasn't my browseer

Serg

i used gpg --decrypt file.txt

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander it's my web wrapper for my MC server manager

terdon

@ByteCommander Yay! Another sportsman! Although, Tim also has all the relevant ones. I have no idea why they've included "pundit" in the list.

Videonauth

@Serg do gpg --list secret-keys and use the bit after xxxxxx/key

Byte Commander

15:58

> The page isn't redirecting properly

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies.

Mateo

HM still needs work, but is still awedome

terdon

@Zacharee1 Same as Byte Commander

Zacharee1

agh

Mateo

Zacharee1

Why doesn't it work? It's just redirecting x-p-w.tk to x-p-w.tk:8080

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