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Zacharee1

00:00

Yes

Mods don't review those

Users with 3K+ do(n't)

Seth

@Videonauth pretty much the same situation as here:

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Q: My flags have been waiting for review for 10+ days?

I have several flags that I raised on the 5th... and they are still waiting for review. What gives?

Videonauth

Ah ok

well i just had to flag around (yeah i have 14 fresh flags :p)

Zacharee1

.

Gotta clear the notifications

Videonauth

askubuntu.com/review/late-answers/552878 ....

ok only 13 flags now

Zacharee1

Flagged as well

Videonauth

00:06

@Seth yes i saw that post and upvoted it :)

ok next testsuite to run sighs

Serg

sigh . . . .If I don't figure out the serial connection, i wonder what else i could do for the final project

Zacharee1

Another person who asks for help and then won't take suggestions without trouble. askubuntu.com/q/759709/274320

Videonauth

00:23

I still have that migration still in front of me, migrating my work machine to dualboot ubuntu and win7

Zacharee1

01:07

time to see if I can upgrade to 16.04

Nathan Osman

I'm hanging on for the ISO.

All my machines are getting a clean install.

Zacharee1

Not me

Nathan Osman

If I get a chance later, I might set up a mirror again.

Zacharee1

mirror?

Videonauth

and the first ones having trouble :) askubuntu.com/questions/759726/sudo-apt-get-upgrade-error

Zacharee1

01:14

And here's is some pretty bad OT: askubuntu.com/questions/759724/no-certified-supermicro-hardware

Videonauth

yeah flaged that one just now

as unclear what youre asking ^

Zacharee1

It's not really unclear. They want Canonical to put that hardware as "officially supported" hardware on the Ubuntu site. It's and off-topic and rude rant, sure, but it's not really unclear

Anything to close it though :p

Obligatory anxiety that comes with uninstalling old kernel versions

I think I just broke Ubuntu

We'll see

16.04 is pretty big

1.4GB

Videonauth

indeed

alone the kernel package is about 300 MB installed

Zacharee1

wow

Videonauth

01:30

well all of its packages included tho

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 I'll host a copy of the amd64 desktop ISO.

Zacharee1

ah

How fast is your upload?

This is either off-topic or a duplicate: askubuntu.com/questions/759733/…

@NathanOsman ^

What do you think?

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Should be at least 100mbps up (down for you).

Zacharee1

O_O_O_O

Fast!

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 That's not a dupe, that's off-topic. Too opinionated.

Zacharee1

01:39

Oh cool, it is something :D

:p

Videonauth

hehehe

what time is it at your places ?

Zacharee1

9:40

Videonauth

am ?

Zacharee1

PM...

Videonauth

ah ok :p well heres 3:40 am

Zacharee1

01:40

So Chrome is no longer supported on 12.04

But what happens if you add the Trusty repo?

Videonauth

they might end up with brocken packages maybe

Zacharee1

Where are you? @Videonauth

Videonauth

germany

GMT +1

can'T sleep, this kernel issue is freaking me out

Zacharee1

Viel Deutschers

Nathan Osman

PST - it's 6:42 in the evening here.

Videonauth

01:42

i try to build a linux from scratch

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I thought you were whispering or something xD

psst, it's 6:42 here

@Videonauth fragen: Deutschers, Deutschern oder Deutscheren?

Nathan Osman

PST = Pacific Standard Time.

Videonauth

well just use english lol, they sound all three terribly wrong :)

Nathan Osman

Although technically we are observing PDT - Pacific Daylight Time :D

Zacharee1

Well, how do you say Germans then? ;p

@NathanOsman stahp pls

Videonauth

01:45

The Germans == Die Deutschen

Zacharee1

ohh

So viele Deutschen

Videonauth

then it would be So viele Deutsche

thats one common problem even hardcore translation programms struggle with

Zacharee1

why is it that?

dat makey no senz

Videonauth

our grammar is partially completely turned around as the english one, then we have much more cases

Zacharee1

I really need to actually learn German

I took it for like 3 years, but the teacher was an American and a German exchange student showed that he actually doesn't know German very well at all

gtg

Videonauth

01:50

:)

Serg

02:31

I really need to bump up my Chinese. I haven't been learning it actively in the last 3 years

And also stop procrastination and actually learn korean actively

hbdgaf

03:00

Generated here if you want to play with it

Seth

03:24

Videonauth

hehehe nice

thanks for the link

hbdgaf

@Videonauth yeppers. no problem.

Prasad RD

hello all :)

hi @aking :P

hbdgaf

o/

Videonauth

o/

Prasad RD

03:37

waiting for the new release ....

hbdgaf

16.04 Lubuntu sticking with GTK2 based instead of trying to squeeze in LXQT made me sad.

Prasad RD

running minimal now?

hbdgaf

Xubu now. I leapfrog LTS releases and add ppas.

Prasad RD

QT seems fast but plasma 5x on kubuntu is terrible...at least for me :3

hbdgaf

Eh. I'm not a Kubuntu guy. I liked Qt at the core and a minimalist desktop in the same tasty package.

Videonauth

03:43

@PrasadRD the new release should be online

hbdgaf

@Videonauth probably an "i haz slow internetz" complaint

Videonauth

^.^

Prasad RD

kubuntu wasn't my Favorited... but after ubuntu switched from gnome to unity and unity started to lag I made the switch...it was not that bad atm...

released? o.O

Videonauth

yeah seeing the whole morning already the "i haz problems questions"

hbdgaf

on a happier note

>Download the netboot image for 16.04. At the boot menu, ensure that you choose to install a command-line system instead of the normal install. Install it like normal, then when you boot, execute the following commands:

Direct easy directions for turning a basic cli only install into pure lxqt on top of 16.04. So, I'm happy. Might be time for a backup and burndown.

Prasad RD

03:53

missing it :(

chaskes

^^ yep

Prasad RD

plasma 5 is very bad on kubuntu :(
someone said it's good on arch...plasma 5.6.2 with framerwork 5.21 is stable. but can't abandon kubuntu

chaskes

I agree with that. Plasma has continued to get better in the newer versions.

Prasad RD

04:13

need to check 16.04 however :)

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Q: Setup a common /opt such that both my Linux Distributions can use it

I have 2 linux distributions namely Ubuntu-Gnome, Fedora-XFCE, both having almost the same bunch of apps. Most of my apps are installed in the /opt space separately for both the distros. I have used common installers for both. e.g.: VirtualBox has a "All distributions" file that has been used, fo...

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Nathan Osman

04:34

^--- @Seth you're right, that is kinda fun.

Avinash Raj

05:01

do u guys know the exact ubuntu 16.04 release timing?

Videonauth

Holy, such a rude post i not have seen yet here ...

hello muru

@AvinashRaj it should be released already

Avinash Raj

@Videonauth I'm not talking about beta release.

chaskes

It varies. My memory for past releases is that it's generally on the main site by about noon or 1 pm new york time. And may take a little longer to hit the mirrors.

Videonauth

me neither

Nathan Osman

I remember it being about 9am PST last time an LTS was released.

chaskes

05:07

then that agrees with my memory of noon eastern time

Nathan Osman

Ah here we go:

Apr 17 '14 at 15:58, by Minato Namikaze

It's released

Wow, everyone's memory is working great tonight.

(15:58 UTC == 11:58am EST)

Avinash Raj

for me 9:30PM IST

chaskes

:)

Videonauth

Pretty rude ... askubuntu.com/questions/251179/…

Nathan Osman

@Videonauth It's been flagged already.

I doubt it will last more than a couple minutes longer.

Videonauth

05:16

and alot of spambots again :)

dang, its not even noon and im running low on flags already lol

Lennart

07:17

hello!

Ferrybig

Hi

Journeyman Geek

09:08

0_0

→ 7 messages moved to Recycle Bin

blade19899

10:04

ubuntu.com in 2002: Way Back Machine: Ubuntu

cl-netbox

10:46

Hello ! :) FYI ... xenial final is released -> releases.ubuntu.com/16.04 ! :)

fossfreedom

wait for the formal announcement

those ISO's could change

... and will change - look at the dates for the ISO's

grooveplex

Lots of spam today on Ask Ubuntu

Flagging all of it, don't worry

@cl-netbox nice! Do you know how I can upgrade from Trusty without waiting for a patch release?

Hmm

When I set update-manager setting "Any version" it says 15.10 is the newest, which, FYI, is not true.

Or should I update from 15.10 to 16.04?

No,wait a second. Now it says "14.10"

Now it says "15.10 again.... What?

kos

11:04

@cl-netbox The page doesn't load for me

Can a mod reopen this? askubuntu.com/q/759795/380067

Oli

I find myself in a perennial state of confusion as people turn feral around release time. The official release will be out when it's out (when it's announced). You can upgrade whenever you like if you're happy forcing it... Which you probably are if it matters that much. If it doesn't matter, ignore it for a week and upgrade when it prompts you.

7

@kos Yup

kos

@Oli Thanks

jokerdino

@kos I am revoking your gold badge. Very poor.

kos

@jokerdino It's strange the answers to the duplicate didn't work... I think they may have bigger underlying problems.

blade19899

> "It’s finally here: the stable Ubuntu 16.04 LTS release is now available to download. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (‘Xenial Xerus’) is supported for 5 years with critical security, bug and app updates from Canonical, the company that makes Ubuntu." - OMG! UBUNTU!, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Is Now Available to Download

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jokerdino

11:11

@kos bugs evolve too

kos

@jokerdino Are we still talking about software bugs or did we switched to real bugs? Cause I hope that is true only for the latter

@blade19899 Not downloading it until it pops up on the front page.

Ferrybig

11:29

^this came up because there was a new answer to that question, if that happens, smokey checks all other answers for spam too

Oli

11:40

I mean, it looks like spam (the generic anchor text) but the domain doesn't look bad, doesn't seem to sell anything. Oddskis. Edit Maybe it does. Getting odd exe downloads through deep pages.

blade19899

doing do-release-upgrade -d on Ubuntu Mate, upgrades to Xenial!

grooveplex

11:52

Ubuntu 14.04, running sudo update-manager -d let's me download and install 16.04, but it's a development release.

Videonauth

12:07

simply do do-release-upgrade -cthis will check if the actual release is open if yes tun the command without any parameter.

the -cd parameter checks for developtment releases and -d installs developtment releases

the -s option is de facto useless and obsolete, because ok you download all in an aufs sandbox, but since you only could really test the downloaded release by rebooting, wich in fact deletes the sandbox

Avinash Raj

12:28

Ubuntu 16.04 released.

RPi Awesomeness

Probably gonna fresh install. Just gotta find all the bajillion customizations I set up over the past 2-3 releases :P

blade19899

@RPiAwesomeness Copy your /home/USER folder. Then after fresh install, install all the apps you use, and copy everything back! :D

RPi Awesomeness

But then I've still got a bunch of crud left over :/

j0h

12:52

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Q: added display moves icons to extended desktop

I have my laptop set up with an extended display in Ubuntu mate. when I add the screen, all my desktop Icons move to the extended portion. How do I prevent that from happening? I have been using Display under System -> preferences -> hardware -> displays. I would like the screen to just be avai...

multiple-monitors display icons mate ubuntu-mate

blade19899

13:03

> Fatal error: Call to undefined function exif_imagetype() in /some/path/to/a/php.file.php on line XXX

How do I enable exifimagetype on CentOS?

j0h

@blade19899 check your php.ini file for exif

blade19899

@j0h I did:

> ;extension=php_exif.dll ; Must be after mbstring as it depends on it

wherer is the .so version?

Or can I rename the .dll to .so, and it will work?

Videonauth

@blade19899 just try it :) what can go wrong ? if it not works change it back

or run a find / -name "php_exif.so" to find the path

j0h

13:19

I think exif_imagetype is exif.imagetype and imagetype is a member of the exif class.

So have a look at this page
http://php.net/manual/en/exif.setup.php

blade19899

@Videonauth Its a production server, with allot of users: "just try it :) what can go wrong" - is not an option for me

Videonauth

ah ok :)

Thomas W.

Close this as a duplicate of this

blade19899

@j0h I was reading that. Not really helpfull

Videonauth

i put ma last flag for today in it already @ThomasW.

blade19899

13:23

@Videonauth find / -name "php_exif.so" did not find anything!

j0h

no? will you try recompiling php with exif flag --enable-exif

alternatively, pick someother means to check the image type.

Daniel

Anyone know how to get around Amazon Web Service's $1 activation on your credit card?

Thomas W.

@Daniel There is none

i don't think it sticks

it's hit and then been removed in the past on my account

Daniel

But it will still hit the account. i.e., I can't use my currently-empty card.

Thomas W.

correct

and i wouldn't be using gift card visas or anything like that

Daniel

13:27

So I'm stuck waiting a week until payday.

Thomas W.

use an actual bank card :P

@Daniel yep

Daniel

It is real.

Unless...

Maybe Cracker Barrel payed me for the 3 hours of training?

*runs to check*

annnnd no they didn't. That sucks, I guess I'm waiting a week.

Videonauth

/var/lib/php/modules/7.0/cgi/enabled_by_maint/exif
/var/lib/php/modules/7.0/registry/exif
/var/lib/php/modules/7.0/fpm/enabled_by_maint/exif
/var/lib/php/modules/7.0/cli/enabled_by_maint/exif
/var/lib/php/modules/7.0/phpdbg/enabled_by_maint/exif
/var/lib/php/modules/7.0/apache2/enabled_by_maint/exif

@blade19899

just did the find with -name "exif"

blade19899

@Videonauth find / -name "exif" - finds nothing for me? I am running:

> CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 (Core)

Videonauth

ok im on 16.04 here

blade19899

13:38

@Videonauth Me to be the end of the week :D

Videonauth

if i apt-cache search exif i get two things of relevance php-7.0-common and exif (exif2)

dont know if youre still on 5.x php on your server

blade19899

> PHP 5.5.30

Videonauth

the package name should be same except not 7.0

blade19899

libexif-devel.i686 : Files needed for libexif application development
libexif-devel.x86_64 : Files needed for libexif application development
libexif-doc.x86_64 : The EXIF Library API documentation
exiv2.x86_64 : Exif and Iptc metadata manipulation library
exiv2-libs.i686 : Exif and Iptc metadata manipulation library
exiv2-libs.x86_64 : Exif and Iptc metadata manipulation library
libexif.i686 : Library for extracting extra information from image files
libexif.x86_64 : Library for extracting extra information from image files

@Videonauth ^

exiv2 ?

Videonauth

yeah i was abffled by this aswell

have to read into this more before i decide on that

Videonauth

14:14

Can somone flag this askubuntu.com/a/759960/522934 as not an answer? im out of flags for today

Thomas W.

14:31

@Videonauth nope

it's already gone

Videonauth

ah ok then :) i had this one in reviw as i posted this

is the module mpm_prefork needed on apache2 ubuntu basic configuration?

muru

@Videonauth it is the default MPM

You need it if you use the Apache PHP module

Videonauth

because i have tonns of error logs and even a clean log is filled with tons of errors upon restar

muru

You need some MPM. And for most configs, prefork works fine. Look elsewhere for the source of your problems.

Zacharee1

I swear this SSD is getting faster as I use it more

Videonauth

14:46

o/ @Zacharee1

@muru well i just noticed today, the server as far it concern me behaves fine but produces 39329 bytes of error log on each start

Fabby

15:03

@Zacharee1 Intel?

Zacharee1

Kingston or something

Kingston

Videonauth

nice fraudulent OT askubuntu.com/questions/759997/…

Zacharee1

Voted

Videonauth

@Zacharee1 thanks, i have no flags left for today

bbut i found the error with my apache

the 16.04 upgrade switches to php7 and the mibs and snmp have been uninstalled

Fabby

@Videonauth voted

@Zacharee1 You're not the only one describing this phenomenon, but until now, I've only heard this for Intel drives...

Zacharee1

15:16

Cheap one from 2013

Love it

hbdgaf

15:30

@Fabby o/

Nathan Osman

Still no ISO...

Guess I'll have to wait until lunch then.

hbdgaf

the x86 and x86_64 images are live, but the arm images are noticeably absent.

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Zacharee1

16.04 still isn't on the main site

hbdgaf

really ? releases.ubuntu.com/16.04

@AskUbuntuMeta i'ld tag them as #ireallylikehimbutitscomplicated just for fun. although, that's a REALLY bad thing to tag those questions with.

Zacharee1

15:36

That's not the main site

hbdgaf

ok. first google result for "16.04 lts iso", so...

user139252

16.04 still isn't in the upgrade mirrors...

hbdgaf

that's fair

Zacharee1

They're definitely getting ready, but until I see it on ubuntu.com/download/desktop, it isn't officially released for me

hbdgaf

^^ just saying

RPi Awesomeness

15:47

Okay guys. MIT or GPLA?

Oli

A?

RPi Awesomeness

Affero

Zacharee1

B

RPi Awesomeness

Q?

Oli

For what?

hbdgaf

15:48

@Oli btw, I was referring to the feral people, not you. See the comment star.

RPi Awesomeness

A a program I'm working on

Videonauth

@RPiAwesomeness use WTFPL --> see here wtfpl.net

grins

RPi Awesomeness

I like the requirement of GPLA that the source has to be open if distributed no matter what, but I see MIT a lot

@Videonauth >.< I'd rather not thank you very much

Oli

AGPL can be sticky. Many won't touch it because of what it does to server-side stuff. What is your project?

RPi Awesomeness

It's a todo & timing app similar to Omnifocus

Linux doesn't have any really good ones, so I figured why not.

I get a product I want and help out the Linux user system (maybe) and also it'll help me learn C++/Qt

All of the other work I've done before this has been server-y stuff, Python mainly, so I've stuck with GPLA over straight GPL because it's server-side

Seth

15:55

@RPiAwesomeness MIT.

Or Apache.

Oli

AGPL really only seems to be more useful than GPL for services where your users aren't actually directly running the application, they're accessing it through a webserver that's running it. If that applies that might be an option but it'll [probably] stop anybody touching it for commercial purposes.

Seth

@Videonauth as much as I like that license, it won't hold in a court of law.

and you will be liable for damages.

RPi Awesomeness

@Oli Ah

Well, then, GPLv3 vs MIT

Seth

in Charcoal HQ, Jan 20 at 20:07, by ManishEarth

did I accidentally GPL something?

in Charcoal HQ, Jan 20 at 20:07, by ManishEarth

oh shit

seems relevant :P

RPi Awesomeness

lol, what's so bad about GPL?

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