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@NathanOsman so, I'm going over the replay, and after I destroyed your first attempt at a second civic center, did you realize I had an attack force on the way? I didn't know this until after the fact, but your immediate second attempt (with a guard) passed right next to my attack.

Zacharee1

2:01 AM

*silence reigns almighty*

Zacharee1

2:25 AM

BREAK THE SILENCE

*smash*

Nathan Osman

BOOM.

@Mateo I have to go in about 2 minutes.

Zacharee1

*tinkle*

*CRASH*

@NathanOsman thx :p

Mateo

hah, well, I think you won, I blitzed and everyone died @NathanOsman

oo, maybe?

Nathan Osman

Should I quit now?

And get our final score?

Mateo

sure, I think we did a good final battle

nice, you had more points

Nathan Osman

2:32 AM

43073 to 35587 for me :)

Mateo

I had a wonder :)

and and awesome navy

not that that did any good besides fishing...

Nathan Osman

We were pretty evenly matched.

Anyway, supper.

Thanks for playing.

Mateo

did you have a civ center hidden back there?

or did i destroy them

Nathan Osman

Yes :)

Mateo

aw...

Nathan Osman

2:34 AM

I had one you never found.

Mateo

thats why ;)

so close, anyway late was fun @NathanOsman

Yup.

wat

wat wat?

wat wat what?

2:36 AM

taw

Mateo

anyway we were playing 0ad @Zacharee1 its an open source game

Zacharee1

@Mateo ohhh

@NathanOsman @Mateo what do you think about these templates? getmdl.io/templates

I want to try the Material design out, but idk which to try

OOOOOOOOO: honglio.github.io/Diversity

Seth

3:15 AM

eh, I don't particularly like any of them.

but I don't really like templates anyway so maybe I'm biased.

user139252

4:18 AM

When's the next 0ad game?

Seth

The 7th is the next scheduled one.

Sometimes you can nab someone here though :)

user139252

Feb 7th... In my calendar :D

Seth

@HeatherBrown I'm sorry. It's Jan 17th, not the 7th. My bad. (See the pinned message to the right -->)

user139252

Guys... Never let me do this again, but I just did the greatest bad thing...

user139252

I cooked a quesadilla in bacon grease

Seth

4:22 AM

:O

user139252

And it is delicious

Seth

o_O

user139252

Mix of pepper jack, mozzarella, and Muenster cheeses

Seth

Have you ever bought a quesadilla from one of those Mexican food trucks?

user139252

Nope

Seth

4:28 AM

They taste like heaven.

If heaven has a taste anyway.. :P

user139252

I avoid street food. I don't know who's touched it

user139252

I also tend to avoid restaurants

Seth

After working at one I'm not surprised.

user139252

I go to Chipotle because I personally know most of the employees at my local one

user139252

And if I ever get asked out, I'll be polite and go

Seth

4:31 AM

@HeatherBrown and you can verify the food practices :P

user139252

But I don't usually choose to let others touch my food :p

user139252

Yeah, there's that too

Journeyman Geek

@HeatherBrown meh. If you're going to do bad thing, do it right.

user139252

?

Journeyman Geek

@HeatherBrown oh this.

I'm on my phone so replies are a pain

Seth

4:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek are you using the new UI?

Journeyman Geek

No

user139252

I'm also on mobile

Journeyman Geek

Chatsey.

Seth

ah. You should totally check it out, it's 100% better than even chatsey :)

user139252

Was my quesadilla not unhealthy enough? :p

Journeyman Geek

4:40 AM

@Seth I'm away from my PCs. Currently at a military camp doing nothing worth redacting. :p

Seth

@JourneymanGeek ah. That would make it rather hard to enable :/

well I'm off to bed. G'night folks!

user139252

How can I enable the new mobile ui?

Rinzwind

7:36 AM

David Bowie died :( Another icon gone

Takkat

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(

Rinzwind

I really liked his new album :P

Nathan Osman

Docker Hub is so buggy.

Anyway, goodnight all.

A.B.

8:00 AM

Morning folks =)

Rinzwind

9:24 AM

@Takkat so much Bowie on the radio <3 Makes me sad though

Takkat

@Rinzwind no radio at work here... so no sadness (apart from me superfluously having birthday again)

fossfreedom

spammers getting desperate...

Mateo

10:11 AM

Jan 7 at 2:04, by Seth

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, yesterday, by balpha

@UNIKITTY2.0 @rekire paste this into the javascript console on a chat page: $.post("/users/new-mobile-ui", fkey({ value: true }))

do it on a desktop browser, it will apply to your whole account

blade19899

> "...open source and cross-platform video editor software for GNU/Linux operating systems, proudly announced the release and immediate availability for download and testing of the first Beta build of OpenShot 2.0." - Softpedia, OpenShot 2.0 Beta Free Video Editor Is Available for Download After Years of Development

Awh Yeah!

Official blog:

> "...Greetings Everyone! I am proud to release the first beta of OpenShot 2.0 (details below), and start a much wider testing effort. For all you supporters with early access, I will be sending a separate update with links to installers..." - OpenShot Video Editor | Blog: OpenShot 2.0 - Beta Released!

fossfreedom

I've always liked openshot ... nice app - but just too full of bugs to be fully useable in a large project. Lets hope v2 is much better. Its been a long time coming!

blade19899

10:27 AM

@fossfreedom Openshot 1.* is bugy? Maybe it varies from machine to machine, because most of the time, it was stable for me. Only times it crashed, was because I tried to run too many app simultaneous with OpenShot, with only 4GB ram.

fossfreedom

Whenever you introduced different types of sources encoded in different ways ... it usually couldnt cope - crash bang wallop usually.

blade19899

10:40 AM

Gotta drive, again! Really wishing my job managing Linux web-servers, would start tomorrow...

Bye!

user136984

11:16 AM

I don't feel that this is really an answer... More of a bug report if anything... What should be done about it?

user136984

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A: How to make Nautilus icons in Gnome 3.16 less fat?

in Ubuntu 16.04 there is no such option as the ui was...heavy simplified Nautilus 3.16/3.18 support only "small" value for leftmost position of zoom slider and the small means 48x48px Hope it will be fixed

fossfreedom

its a comment... useful enough to retain.

user136984

But not as an answer... About a release not even released yet that I am not asking about...

user136984

He basically just said that in the next release which hasn't been released yet that there is a bug with this.

user136984

It doesn't really feel like an answer...

fossfreedom

11:20 AM

refresh your page

user136984

@fossfreedom: Ah, I see, you have converted it into a comment.

user136984

Also, why in the "votes" section of one's profile does it not show votes on comments?

fossfreedom

good question well asked ... meta it ... although I expect the answer being "comments are transitory - so what is the need etc etc"

user136984

Main Meta or AU Meta?

fossfreedom

main

Zacharee1

11:43 AM

VERIZON FINALLY GAVE THE NOTE 4 5.1.1!!!!

Too bad it's taking so long to show up :(

user136984

11:56 AM

@fossfreedom: Ok, done. :)

user136984

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Q: Why are votes on comments on showed in the "votes" tab of one's profile?

In the votes section of one's profile it displays all votes on posts, however it does not display votes on comments, why is this?

user136984

@blade19899: Any idea about this by the way? :)

fossfreedom

"on" --> "not"

Saladin

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Q: Adding ":" time-formating using awk

For file 034023 052030 034023 022130 044023 012030 034223 022030 034123 152030 024023 152030 AWK command awk 'gsub(/[0-9][0-9]/,"&:",$1) gsub(/[0-9][0-9]/,"&:",$2)' Lab1 results into 03:40:23: 05:20:30: 03:40:23: 02:21:30: 04:40:23: 01:20:30: 03:42:23: 02:20:30: 03:41:23: 15:20:30: 02...

text-processing awk

user136984

12:36 PM

I just recieved some spam on another machine, so I put the source in an rtf file and sent it to myself here to submit it to a spam report service, however when I saved the file on the other machine it reported to be 4.0 KB, when I moved it to the Trash it became 8 KB, when I downloaded it on this machine it became 4.1 KB, and now that I opened it and have it downloaded it is 4.2 KB, so what's happening?

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda 1000 vs. 1024?

user136984

@Zacharee1: What?

Zacharee1

byte counting :p

user136984

Right, so but do you think that this could be anything to worry about? I mean, sending myself the source of some spam in an RTF file couldn't possibly harm me could it?

Zacharee1

no....

I don't think that's possible

user136984

12:39 PM

So why is the file size changing?

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Q: Main site's sidebar and Meta site's sidebar don't match anymore

I've been noticing this for a few days, the Main site's sidebar and the Meta site's sidebar don't match anymore: In particular I've been noticing the difference between the "Hot Meta Posts" section: the "Hot Meta Posts" section on the Meta site's sidebar always seems to be reporting additiona...

support bug

Zacharee1

Corruption, bad compression, miscounts on the byte amt, idk

user136984

@Zacharee1: Well, the hashsum of the original file is different from the one I received...

user136984

So that's strange...

user136984

1:03 PM

VTC this Minty question as off-topic.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: remote osx split panes in ubuntu byobu

My Problem I have OSX 10.10, connect to a byobu in ubuntu 14.04 over ssh. I want to split panes vertically & horizontally. But ctrl+F2 & shift+F2 just gives me beep sound. Additional Info ctrl-a-|, ctrl-a-S won't work either. I am using Terminal.app, xterm-256color. byobu-ctrl-a is set to ...

ubuntu terminal osx tmux byobu

Zacharee1

1:45 PM

@ParanoidPanda so corruption or sentient virus :p

kos

@ParanoidPanda Is the other machine running Linux as well?

user136984

@kos: No, it's a Mac.

kos

@ParanoidPanda Make sure you calculated the MD5 hash of the file on the Mac in text mode.

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Q: X server can't open display in Ubuntu

I'm not very familiar with the X server display but I'm trying to use a debugger program called DDD and it needs X server to open up to use it. I get this error when I try to run ddd: Error: Can't open display: XX.XX.X.XX:0.0 I set my DISPLAY variable to my IP address but it still won't open....

ubuntu x-server startx

kos

@ParanoidPanda (md5sum -t [...])

Please close this: askubuntu.com/questions/719808/using-variable-in-sed-command. Do people have problems expanding variables only when using sed? :D

user136984

1:54 PM

@kos: The MD5sum according to VirusTotal of the two files is not the same.

user136984

Nor are any of the hashums seemingly...

user136984

@kos: I'll have to go back to the Mac later on and see if it does this with all RTFs.

kos

@ParanoidPanda If you're not sure about how that program is doing the check do a manual check. On Linux the MD5 hash for a file is the same if calculated in binary mode and in text mode, but on other systems is not. Mac OS is based on BSD, I'm not sure if in BSD that matters or not.

user136984

@kos: Ok, well I just created a new RTF file on that computer and put some random text in it... And it behaves in the same way as the other file did.

user136984

So I'm going to assume that everything is fine. Unless I notice something else odd that is.

user136984

2:08 PM

@kos: Thanks for the help anyway! :)

kos

@ParanoidPanda I don't think it should, however the MD5 hash should be calculated in the same way in Linux and in Mac OS (unless you're using Mac OS 9 or an older version).

user136984

So do you think that there could be some internal corruption or something causing this malfunction?

user136984

I mean, I think as it does this for all RTFs that it's not going to be that that RTF file was somehow malicious.

kos

2:26 PM

@ParanoidPanda Yeah, maybe not, but I am curious as to why it changes, I don't see the reason why it should. You're using Mac OS X right?

Can you post the output of head -n 1 file | hexdump -c?

user136984

@kos: Yeah, ok I'll give that a go later and let you know the result. :)

user136984

Is that the same on Linux (the command)?

user136984

And do you want it for the malicious source, or just any old RTF file because it doesn't seem to matter and I don't really want to drag that malicious stuff out of Trash...

kos

2:44 PM

@ParanoidPanda If you're using Mac OS X that shouldn't matter, unless you are using some Windows compatibility mode of some sort... It's the same, you can do that either on Ubuntu or on the Mac, for whatever file that was initially created on the Mac. I just want to see the line-ending.

user136984

Oh right, so I don't actually need to run this command on the Mac, I can just do it on Ubuntu?

user136984

@kos: Well, running that command on the file on my (Ubuntu) machine gives the output of:

user136984

0000000   {   \   r   t   f   1   \   a   n   s   i   \   a   n   s   i
0000010   c   p   g   1   2   5   2   \   c   o   c   o   a   r   t   f
0000020   1   0   3   8   \   c   o   c   o   a   s   u   b   r   t   f
0000030   3   6   0  \r  \n
0000035

user136984

I suppose it doesn't really matter which machine I execute it on because the files remains the same, just the calculation is different (possibly)...

kos

@ParanoidPanda There it is. The file uses CR/LF (Windows) line ending. Run dos2unix file >newfile and the MD5 hash will by all odds match.

user136984

2:52 PM

@kos: Ah, I don't seem to have that program installed.

kos

@ParanoidPanda Then sed 's/\r$//' file >newile

user136984

Should I now replace the top bit with:

user136984

{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1038\cocoasubrtf360
{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;}
{\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;}
\paperw11900\paperh16840\margl1440\margr1440\vieww9000\viewh8400\viewkind0
\pard\tx566\tx1133\tx1700\tx2267\tx2834\tx3401\tx3968\tx4535\tx5102\tx5669\tx6236\tx6803\ql\qnatural\pardirnatural

\f0\fs24 \cf0 hdjsdfhsdjfsjdfg\
gdfghdfug\
dfgdfhgdfjgk}

user136984

?

user136984

Or is that the whole thing?

kos

2:55 PM

@ParanoidPanda Did you run the sed command? Then you should have a new file in the same directory called "newfile" whose MD5 hash should match the MD5 hash calculated on the Mac.

user136984

Right, well that is the contents of the new file generated, I will check the MD5sum of the file on the Mac...

user136984

@kos: Ok, yes, the MD5sums match! :)

user136984

And I think so do the other hashsums...

kos

@ParanoidPanda Mistery solved!

user136984

:)

kos

3:13 PM

Another spam attempt on this question: askubuntu.com/a/719845/380067

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

3:27 PM

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Q: How can I add new user for GUI login?

I added a new user via terminal using the command useradd. I can login this new user via terminal. But I want login window for this new user when I boot my system so that I can directly login to this user for my specific tasks. How to achieve this please?

ubuntu login accounts

kos

4:24 PM

Xenial -> askubuntu.com/questions/719863/…

Zacharee1

4:54 PM

This website template is so large that my editor gave up formatting about halfway through

Ask Ubuntu Meta

5:35 PM

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Q: "Unanswered" forgotten

Why do "hot" questions are the first displayed in Ask Ubuntu? Shouldn't it be "Unanswered"? I can say that more than half of the questions in Unanswered are never answered.

discussion unanswered-questions

kos

5:50 PM

Debian -> askubuntu.com/questions/719876/…

Seth

good grief.

cl-netbox

Hello :)

Hi @kos :)

Hi @Seth :)

kos

Hi @cl-netbox o/

user136984

6:18 PM

@Seth: Are you going to stay Isaac Newton for ever? Because I asked you this before and you said no, but you don't seem to have changed yet... You need to eat more Apples, that's it!

Nathan Osman

6:29 PM

Morning everyone.

Rinzwind

good evening you

user136984

6:47 PM

Afternoon. ;)

user136984

Anyone have any idea with this crazy question? :D

user136984

There is a reason why I'm doing it, I'm not just crazy...

cl-netbox

Bye :)

user136984

@cl-netbox: Bye! :)

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda bye ... see you ! :)

kos

7:05 PM

@ParanoidPanda How come you have a file in ~ with a forward slash in the name?

user136984

7:18 PM

@kos: Didn't I explain in the question? In error.

user136984

@kos: Well, I don't actually have it there yet, I just want it there.

kos

@ParanoidPanda Ok I misread the update, so you told the server to look into the wrong path and can't change it? What is that about exactly?

Just curious, also maybe someone knows why. :)

user136984

@kos: Oh, it's because of a script that manages the config file that I wrote... It may have been a bit buggy, or at least some of its safety measures are proving to be a little annoying... :D

user136984

Oh, it's fine, there is a very manual and slow way of fixing this issue, and I see that I'm going to have to take that route... :D

kos

Alright then. :)

GeoMint

7:57 PM

The Perfect Linux Desktop?

►

Fabby

8:11 PM

@ParanoidPanda 50 shades of grey https version ;-)

@NathanOsman: I hope it will be available for testing about 10 minutes before gameplay starts...

;-)

Nathan Osman

@Fabby oh probably more like 30 minutes :)

Fabby

:* :* :* ;-)

user136984

@Fabby: Nope, it still says the same thing... Perhaps it is HTTPS but the image is being loaded from the HTTP version?

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda even when you open in a new tab?

user136984

Yep

Fabby

8:14 PM

Some tin wong on ur side ten...

;-)

Which browser?

(force https enabled I suppose)

user136984

Firefox 43

user136984

I think...

Fabby

43.0.4 here

Works like a charm...

user136984

Yeah, same version.

user136984

How strange... Anyway, what's the image of?

Fabby

8:26 PM

50 shades of grey in a pie chart...

:D

user136984

Oh right... :D

user136984

Hey, what happened to that guy I had that crazy Panda taking over the universe conversation and plan with? :D

user136984

KGIII I believe was his name.

user136984

It says he was last seen 2 hours ago, but he hasn't been in at least this chat for ages.

user136984

Are there keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in Terminal by the way?

Nathan Osman

8:47 PM

Yes, Ctrl+Shift+C to copy and Ctrl+Shift+V to paste.

Also, Bluetooth is weird. I have my phone sitting next to me on the desk about four feet from the receiver and I get interference sometimes. I go into a bedroom 12 feet away with a wall and closet in the line-of-sight and it works fine.

crl

Have a stupid problem with nginx link, proxy_pass isn't working with anything not even a local http://$host:3000/ technically I can proxy any site right?

user136984

@Nathan: If "CTRL + C" were to have a label in say a right-click menu, would it be "Cancel" or...?

user136984

That is in gnome-terminal.

user136984

Or really any Terminal.

Nathan Osman

Ctrl+C sends SIGINT to the active process.

user136984

8:59 PM

So what do you think a suitable label would be?

user136984

"End" maybe?

Nathan Osman

"Interrupt" would probably be correct.

SIGINT is a shorter way of saying "the interrupt signal".

Note that it is possible for a process to register a signal handler for that signal. It can then do whatever it wants when it receives the signal.

Hectane (one of my apps) will close the mail queue, write to storage, and safely exit when it receives the signal.

user136984

Ah, I see, so it could just pretend to close if it wanted to (to a degree)?

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda Something like that.

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda He's busy with RL...

@NathanOsman Is the case of your desktop open???

@ParanoidPanda Gnome system monitor uses "End process" (cc @NathanOsman)

"Interrupt" sounds too much like "pause" to the average <s>luser</s> user

Zacharee1

9:07 PM

@HeatherBrown quickping

user139252

Yes?

Zacharee1

:p

user139252

Okay, new mobile UI enabled!

user139252

Back to my meeting

user136984

@Fabby: It's ---luser--- I believe. ;)

Zacharee1

9:08 PM

:p

user136984

That produces ~~luser~~.

user139252

Ooooh, fancy

Fabby

~~@ParanoidPanda~~

Cool!

Did that ban you from chat???

Did you get a ping with the strikethrough? @ParanoidPanda

Zacharee1

lol

user136984

~~@Fabby~~: I did get the ping! :D

Fabby

9:11 PM

Ah! Another nifty thing to play with!

Zacharee1

great...

user136984

@Fabby

user136984

@Fabby

Zacharee1

@Fabby found a new template that you'll just love

Fabby

~~@Seth was banned from chat~~

user136984

9:12 PM

@Fabby

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Does it work without scripts???

nor cookies???

user136984

Are those all the possible styles?

Fabby

I love it already!

Zacharee1

@Fabby SARCASM ATTACK

user136984

Me too! :D

Zacharee1

9:12 PM

It's full of CSS fun

I'll see if I can host it, because idk if it has JS

Fabby

@Zacharee1 CSS is good! That works without scripts!

:P

Here is a good example of a site that even has drop down menus and uses absolutely NO scripts!!!

grc.com

Zacharee1

But that's 80s

Someone didn't want me to do that

it looks terrible

Fabby

@Zacharee1 yeah! Gibson is an old fart like me!

He believes in black backgrounds!

CRT-monitor-style!

Zacharee1

ew

Fabby

It's designed to look old-fashioned, but still uses very nifty new technology!

Zacharee1

9:16 PM

I can clearly see the flicker on those things

Seth

@NathanOsman I'd bet on your router, if you're using 2.4GHz. Bluetooth is literally a few KHz away from 2.4 wifi, depending on the channel.

Fabby

@Zacharee1 flicker???

Zacharee1

@Fabby CRT?

Nathan Osman

@Seth Could be - but then wouldn't it be even worse at close distances?

Fabby

@Seth Good idea!

@NathanOsman It would get worse and better depending on the distance...

(sinusoidal wave --> harmonics)

Is your case open?

Seth

9:18 PM

@NathanOsman not necessarily.. it all depends on how the RF bounces around your house.

Fabby

Do you have an FM radio around?

Seth

I suggest setting your router to 5GHz and then see if bluetooth then works better in that area.

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Q: Is suggesting the use of another Linux distribution valid?

Much of what I know has come from using Ubuntu but also several other distributions. I recently suggesting a user use Puppy Linux because they needed something that could fit on a CD (<700mb). I was informed it wasn't appropriate for askubuntu. Is it okay to point people toward other distribu...

discussion

Nathan Osman

@Fabby Nope, case is shut and no FM radio nearby.

The Bluetooth receiver is behind a plastic panel though.

Seth

@Fabby FM radio is a looong way off though, I highly doubt it would be interfering.

(if that is what you were suggesting)

Fabby

9:27 PM

@Seth An old-fashioned telescopic antenna between source and destination can produce weird harmonics...

Seth

@Fabby ahh, ok. That makes more sense xD

Fabby

(I was talking about the physical device, not an FM transmitter...)

:P :P :P

Seth

I was like "harmonics from FM? Really?" lol

Fabby

:D :D :D

You a physicist?

@NathanOsman plastic shouldn't interfere, unless it's cut from a tape bag...

Microwave oven around?

Nathan Osman

Yup, but not in use.

Fabby

9:30 PM

That's about the last thing I can think of, except WiFi A/B/G which Seth already brought up...

Nathan Osman

We don't have a cordless phone either, before you ask :)

Fabby

@NathanOsman and not sitting in-between source and destination neither?

Nathan Osman

Nope.

Fabby

I'm all out of fresh ideas...

Huge speakers that are misaligned (like fell on the floor) ?

user136984

@JacobVlijm: If you don't see this one too late, it might be one for you. :)

Fabby

9:33 PM

@NathanOsman Uranium-ore??? :D :D :D

I'm going to stop thinking about this: back to the review queue...

(before I bring in cosmic rays, tin foil hats, Aliens, ...)

;-)

Nathan Osman

Zacharee1

@Fabby Think about this: Verizon blamed us customers for the problems we had on 5.0.1. Now that we finally have 5.1.1, there's about a 5x performance increase.

Nathan Osman

@Fabby the green dot is where I have it on the desk.

Pardon the primitive drawing :P

user139252

What are these pings?

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown No one's pinging you..?

@HeatherBrown (except for now)

@HeatherBrown (and now)

@HeatherBrown (and... now)

user139252

9:38 PM