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hbdgaf

12:04 AM

@Mateo He is right though, that probably lineage does show...

@Mateo stahp pls

I like the new theme

@Mateo I like the colors, but I wonder why they're insisting on rounded corners. On a device where apps are supposed to be full screen or a full half the screen most of the time - it would make sense to not waste cycles/battery for the GPU rounding corners.

user139252

@Zacharee1 I see you made an account on my site :p

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

12:15 AM

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Q: using left mouse button to move window can cause freeze (XFCE4/Ubuntu 15.10)

I use xfce4 under Ubuntu 15.10. Fairly often some action with my mouse causes the cursor to change into the closed hand icon and my session freezes in a useless state. When this happens the cursor continues to track the mouse, and certain keystroke combinations work (like Alt-Tab or CTRL-ALT-Fn...

user139252

Yeah, no rounded corners for phone apps

hbdgaf

I mean, it's not like you have to want to lick the icons on Ubuntuphone ;)

Mateo

12:28 AM

The system icons are nice

hbdgaf

You know what I meant.

Mateo

Just had a mental picture of someone actually trying that....

hbdgaf

zdnet.com/article/lickable-buttons

Mateo

12:41 AM

lol, browsing the hot questions

so

How is this still an active question?!?!?!?

Zacharee1

@Mateo that's a keypress

@hbdgaf because no one cares?

idk

I didn't know that bots could read images

or did you all flag me? ō_ô

ō_ôō_ô

Seth

12:45 AM

@Zacharee1 that's a risk you take when you post images calling someone a f****** donkey.

Zacharee1

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Seth

I'd have cleaned it up myself but was really too busy to pay much attention. I suggest not doing it again, jest or otherwise.

Zacharee1

well yeah

hbdgaf

I think it's b/c you posted it twice in rapid succession, and someone pinged it as spam. Not the verbage. Then when someone has attention called to it, they HAVE to take action... not b/c they want to, but b/c it's provable it crossed their screen.

Zacharee1

hm

Fabby

12:51 AM

Oops...

Zacharee1

?

Fabby

That was me calling it spam...

Zacharee1

sigh

Fabby

With the Monty Pythons...

Zacharee1

sp

Fabby

12:52 AM

Not b/c I was offended, but because you posted it twice...

I just thought it funny at the time posting that.

Sorry!

Zacharee1

Well I had to read Macbeth anyway :)

hbdgaf

I've gotten a lockout/chat freeze before. It happens to everyone at least once I think...

Zacharee1

@hbdgaf what'd you do O_o

Nathan Osman

Didn't Terdon get it done to himself on purpose once? :P

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I think that was @Serg

hbdgaf

12:54 AM

@NathanOsman Possibly.

Fabby

I once asked to be kicked out of chat to see what it did...

Nathan Osman

Oh yeah, it was Serg.

Fabby

Yeah, Serg needed to study...

Nathan Osman

I'm soon (hopefully) going to have a Docker container with all of the build tools for ARM click packages.

Zacharee1

I totally know what that is.... :p

Nathan Osman

12:55 AM

Docker?

Fabby

Does that mean we'll get NitroShare for the Ubuntu Phone???

Zacharee1

Sort of, but the ARM stuff?

Fabby

(ARM)

hbdgaf

@Zacharee1 I made a comment somewhere that a mod took exception to. Then I had a tigerdirect link that I thought people interested in Ubuphone would find interesting get flagged as spam. So, I drew a probably non-existent connection and started raging. Then, before my kick expired, I had a sock-puppet with enough rep to chat ;)

Nathan Osman

And the FedEx guy has 5 more minutes before he's officially late.

@Fabby This is a distantly-related project.

Zacharee1

12:56 AM

@hbdgaf noice

@NathanOsman Sounds like Comcast!

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 It's a cross-builder. It runs on amd64 hardware but builds for ARM.

Zacharee1

k

4

Fabby

Anyway, sleep, keyboard, etc...

Good night all!

Zacharee1

nightz

Zacharee1

1:13 AM

Well I just BSed (pls no flag) a short essay in ~15 minutes.

Seth

@Zacharee1 this is so terribly true.

Zacharee1

I thought it might be :p

Nathan Osman

Uh-oh...

Zacharee1

I guess I'm lucky that Comcast isn't in my area(s)

@NathanOsman watwat

Nathan Osman

docker build doesn't seem to support chroot within containers.

Zacharee1

1:15 AM

dun dun dun

Nathan Osman

This is not good.

Zacharee1

Dun Dun Un, the heir to the NK throne :p

For some reason, that's what my spelling error made me think

Look at the tech's shirt in the 1st and 3rd slides @NathanOsman

Nathan Osman

1:27 AM

This makes me want to cry.

Open bug since 2013.

Zacharee1

:(

Just be glad it isn't something like Stagefright

Nathan Osman

At least there was a workaround for that.

Zacharee1

3rd party messaging apps you mean?

See if someone has a patch

I still have yet to find out how reading a biography on someone then answering complex questions actually helps me learn Spanish.

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman No github.com/djmaze/armhf-ubuntu-docker

RPi Awesomeness

@Mateo Recently?

Nathan Osman

1:39 AM

@hbdgaf That's an ARM container. I'm not sure I follow?

hbdgaf

Wasn't your project cross-building?

Nathan Osman

Not exactly.

I'm trying to run debootstrap in a container.

But debootstrap needs to be able to make the chroot syscall.

hbdgaf

A docker instance is essentially its own chroot, so I'm not sure I'm understanding the need.. nm, I get it with the debootstrap thing.

Nathan Osman

Yeah, I confess it's an unusual scenario.

hbdgaf

I'm not sure where that should be solved. Docker or debootstrap. They're both equally valid. I like your dockerized build farm idea though.

Zacharee1

1:44 AM

Answer: bad, good? askubuntu.com/questions/720040/best-architecture-for-me/…

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman To satisfy both parties, what if you forked debootstrap to have a "hacked" debootstrap that ignored the chroot and built in a docker container with an ignore list?

Zacharee1

^

Nathan Osman

@hbdgaf That could work as a last resort, perhaps.

hbdgaf

It keeps everyone happy, and it doesn't ask anyone to do any work.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman you might be at last resort :P

Nathan Osman

1:46 AM

We'll see :P

I have a large box of tricks.

I'm still unpacking the box to see what other tricks are in there.

Zacharee1

Send me any stickers you find! :p

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman 's bag o' tricks ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61y2pqdLs4L._UX385_.jpg

Nathan Osman

I was thinking a bit more like this:

But that works too.

hbdgaf

Oddly, I'm watching an episode of the pretender that cruxes on illusionists right now XD

Zacharee1

@hbdgaf I like the one that has the sparkly thing across but I can never find it

hbdgaf

1:52 AM

@Zacharee1 Search Oli's comments for magic. It's in there.

Zacharee1

Yay! An upvote for me! *happy dance*

@hbdgaf too much "work"

hbdgaf

I think my head is going to explode. Hold on...

stackexchange.com/users/7412/oli?tab=accounts

chat.stackexchange.com/users/7412/chris-charabaruk

Zacharee1

wat wat

wat

` wat`
` wat wat`
`wat wat wat`

hbdgaf

Zacharee1

nooo

guh

Well my pyramid doesn't work :(

hbdgaf

1:58 AM

    wat
  wat wat
wat wat wat

Zacharee1

    wat
  wat wat
wat wat wat

hbdgaf

I won

Zacharee1

hehehehehehehehehh

I stole

So I won :P

hbdgaf

Zacharee1

:)

hbdgaf

2:00 AM

Great game btw. I still play it sometimes.

Zacharee1

Wow: google.com/…

uhh

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

hbdgaf

pfft i dropped the domain forever ago

Zacharee1

you need to use Twitter more often :p

hbdgaf

People tell me to shut up a lot. I don't twit a lot >.>

Zacharee1

Could tweet images of the convos here :p

hbdgaf

2:03 AM

That sort of thing is for gems.

krikey that shit is old

Zacharee1

lol

oh ho ho: pof.com/member29422577.htm

hbdgaf

yerp. totally happened. i had the most hilarious troll application there. it was fun to laugh about.

Zacharee1

*ignore my stalkerish obsessions*

Is that of you?

hbdgaf

It might have been when my old lady cut me off a long time ago... but I got a dog instead of a wife >.<

ō_ô

2:07 AM

ok..

One of those times when a wide net doesn't catch any fish...

Zacharee1

eh heheheh

Seth

@hbdgaf there's got to be a partitioning joke in there somewhere..

hbdgaf

@Seth There's an LVM joke in there too... expand partitions whenever you want without requiring additional resources.

Zacharee1

2:16 AM

Anyone seeing something off here:

Shawn Mendes - Something Big

►

@hbdgaf @Seth

Seth

hmm, I need a program to view old bookmarks sitting around in FF profiles I have backed up.

Zacharee1

now:

hbdgaf

@Zacharee1 Heh... I find it to be typically more like this youtube.com/watch?v=5I-r3Z_tm7I and a horrifying hangover ;)

Zacharee1

okey dokey

that video works

weird

and it's dead again

Seth

So apparently this is a thing.

hbdgaf

2:25 AM

@Zacharee1 Heh... nice!!!

Zacharee1

Twitter keeps warning me of suspicious sign-ins, but they never tell me from where, so I just end up changing my password. I've changed it so much, that idk what it even is anymore :/

hbdgaf

I just stopped caring. Whatever happens happens. It'll be fine in the long term.

Nathan Osman

Well folks. It looks like I finally have managed to find a service that can't run under CoreOS.

@hbdgaf So sadly monkey-patching debootstrap is just going to be too complex for this.

I'm going to just have to run this outside of a container.

Seth

@Zacharee1 turn on two factor.

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman :(

Nathan Osman

2:29 AM

I wonder if LXD has the same limitation...

hbdgaf

It doesn't

Zacharee1

@Seth I don't think I have it on, and I haven't used Twitter for over a month

Nathan Osman

@hbdgaf In that case, maybe it's a possible option.

I want the container thing to work but the containers need to be able to run chroot.

hbdgaf

I like lxc over docker, but the networking blobs in lxc haven't caught up to the networking blobs in docker.

Just for a hyperbolic bit of humor plus.google.com/+CarlSu/posts/YzebTMwZJJ5

user139252

@Zacharee1 did you get your site worked out?

Zacharee1

2:40 AM

@HeatherBrown Still working on a new template I found

@HeatherBrown But I'm uploading what I have right now, so you all can see it

user139252

Home server or remote host?

hbdgaf

I'm going with remote host...

Zacharee1

remote

Serg

@Zacharee1 yeah, I've asked Oli to ban me so that I can do homework :p

@NathanOsman a docker image for ARM ? What's it's going to be all about ?

Nathan Osman

@Serg Here's a preview: utbuild.quickmediasolutions.com

That's the end results.

Serg

2:46 AM

Ah, so it's for Ubuntu Touch . . . I was hoping it's something for Snappy

Meanwhile . . . I've got the new CPU , installed into my friend's Dell and it's now running defragmentation . . . For the record, I still hate windows . . .

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown techyteen.byethost7.com/?ckattempt=1

Still very much in dev

oh noes!

I took out a section I didn't mean to!

ugh

Serg

@Zacharee1 you can delete messages

Zacharee1

@Serg wat

Serg

@Zacharee1 you said you took out a section you didn't mean to . . .I'm assuming you were talking about that link

Zacharee1

Actual website :p

The HTML is really confusing with this template. I had to use an auto-formatter just so I could read it

@Serg

Serg

3:03 AM

@Zacharee1 OK . . . that's all i can say at the moment, because i did not get what's that website all about . . .

also is it just me, or all the 3.5 inch hard drives are painfully slow ?

Nathan Osman

@Serg It will be.

My plan is to support Snappy too.

Serg

awesum :D

Zacharee1

6.5-hour naptime! (AKA bed)

Journeyman Geek

@Serg its just you.

Serg

3:24 AM

@JourneymanGeek i thought so . . . it's weird though, the 2.5 inch drive i had in my laptop works way better on my friend's old HP than 3.5 inch drive it came with

the 3.5 also had win xp on it . . . .vs ubuntu with openbox on 2.5 :)

Zacharee1

Split screen isn't laggy anymore!

And windowed mode is so much better

Serg

3:45 AM

I think this PC needs hammer massage

Nathan Osman

Lame - the text editor in Qt Creator doesn't support the horizontal scroll wheel on my mouse.

Seth

you sure it's the text editor and not the driver?

Journeyman Geek

4:34 AM

@Serg drives slow down with age and use and many OEM's cheap out with slower drives.

Nathan Osman

5:54 AM

@Seth Good question.

The mouse does do horizontal scrolling in the Gimp and Sublime.

So the question is... is this a KDE thing or a Qt Creator thing?

I'm neck-deep in the source code for the Ubuntu SDK Qt Creator plugin, trying to figure out how it invokes the click binary to run applications in the click chroot.

The code is fairly straightforward, but for the life of me I can't figure out where the working directory for the click commands is set.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

6:35 AM

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Q: Why is my answered question being flagged as a duplicate against a later asked question without an accepted answer?

Why is this: Increase Trackpoint Sensititvity with SystemD (Ubuntu 15.04 or later) (Clear Questions with Clear and accepted answer, with upvotes) being flagged as duplicate and asked to receive a close against this: kubuntu 15.04 trackpoint sensitivity (Unclear Question, No upvotes, asked mo...

support

A.B.

7:44 AM

Morning folks :)

Kalamalka Kid

so I backed up my Ubuntu 14.04 (disk to disk) partition onto a external drive. Partition1 is the boot, Partition2 is the where the /home folder is (with lots of room to spare), Partition3 is the swap file, and there is a whole bunch of empty space waiting to be formatted. What I want to do is shrink Partition2 so that I am not wasting all the extra space on the disk, but I want to make sure that I will still be able to boot onto this. Is shriking this partition safe to do?

@A.B. good morning

Nathan Osman

8:23 AM

@A.B. Good morning to you and good night to me :)

A.B.

@NathanOsman sleep well =)

Nathan Osman

I'm going to be dreaming about chroots...

:P

Kalamalka Kid

8:38 AM

halp !

https://askubuntu.com/questions/720125/ubuntu-14-04-boot-after-trying-to-boot-from-external-drive

Takkat

6

see askubuntu.com/search?q=ubunut

Nathan Osman

Heh :)

Amith KK

9:33 AM

Heya xP

blade19899

Review: Ubuntu Touch 16.04 Xenial on Nexus 5

►

I want this even more now....

Amith KK

Can Utouch still be built for the Nexus 7 2012? xD

Or is that hopeless? It seems to be okay, specwise.

blade19899

52

A: What hardware does Ubuntu Touch support?

Supported Devices Nexus 4 Nexus 10 Nexus 7 2013 WiFi BQ Aquarius E4.5 (announcement) BQ Aquarius E5 (announcement) Meizu MX4 (announcement) Previously Supported Devices Galaxy Nexus Nexus 7 (2012) These devices have been deprecated and further development & updates may longe...

Amith KK

Ah, guess not, then.

user136984

10:35 AM

\o :)

@Rinzwind o/

o\

Bad day?

yeah

installing software that is untested by client and has to be live before the 18th

if not live before friday... it's my weekend screwed

and tomorrow I have a day off :-X

Fabby

10:51 AM

Ouch!

I'm off... Will be back in about an hour or so...

Akiva

Hey all

Fabby

@Akiva Just in time!

I was about to be AFK...

Akiva

heh; whats up?

Fabby

@Akiva Well, the stupid dupe I did?

;-)

What OS are you on?

Akiva

No big deal; Their answer is technically better actually

Fabby

10:54 AM

15.04 or 15.10

Akiva

16.04

you?

Fabby

OK, so leave your answer duped to the other one or reverse?

I like STABLE: 14.04.3

:D

Akiva

ha ha, sec; I'll improve my answer.

Fabby

The thing is: should I remove my dupe or not? Once I remove it, I won't be able to dupe again and when you agree that their answer is better, then the best thing to do is to leave the dupe in! @Akiva

They're using udev and mention 15.10

So?

(I need to go so have about another 3 minutes.) @Akiva

Akiva

sorry had to reconnect. I'm an ignoramous to the significance to Udev, as I am not a sysadmin. Personally, I'd rather see "possible answer also here:" sort of thing.

What do you think?

Fabby

10:59 AM

@Akiva edit the new answer and link to yours???

Possible!

OK, I'll do that, leave the dupe in place and it'll need an additional 4 votes from 4 other reviewers to close as a dupe anyway...

;-)

Akiva

Well; leave them both up, and comment that a possible answer exists in the Kubuntu Question.

Fabby

link to each other?

OK, I got to go: you edit both and link to each other.

Akiva

Fair enough?

Fabby

I'll now go and remove my duplicate then

@Akiva yes! ;-)

Akiva

Thank you. I appreciate it.

/me loves ubuntu community~

Fabby

11:02 AM

@Akiva also: clean up the comments below your question...

now they''re talking to a ghost!

:P ;-)

Gone! Bye!

Akiva

sure, and I made the edit

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Can one not search for unregistered users?

I recently was trying to find the profile of this guy, and I was searching and searching on the users page but I couldn't find anything... So I finally just went to one of his answers and clicked on the name, which then took me to a profile which said (unregistered) (which I assume means that the...

discussion support feature-request users unregistered

Ravan

11:32 AM

@kos o/

kos

Hi @Ravan o/

Mateo

12:17 PM

@AmithKK the old nexus 7 is hopeless - I have one :/

edward torvalds

2:03 PM

I am the first one here :D

kos

@edwardtorvalds The first one was Jorge Castro ;)

edward torvalds

heh

I am claiming this chat again in the name of India :D

Nicolas Raoul

2:27 PM

I hesitate who to give the bounty to at askubuntu.com/questions/718446

edward torvalds

@NicolasRaoul you have already have so many bounty already, why hesitate ? :)

Nicolas Raoul

One person made a lot of effort with lots of explanations and screenshots so I promised him the bounty... but in fact his answer probably does not work.

edward torvalds

@NicolasRaoul then dont give bounty but a thanks

Nicolas Raoul

Oh yeah I will attribute it but strictly comparing now, andrew.46's answer probably works better.

edward torvalds

bounty is a sign of great answer

Nicolas Raoul

2:31 PM

it looks like a great answer because it contains screenshots and a lot of explanations. But the procedure described does not solve the problem.

edward torvalds

it does not matter how fancy is the answer but how helpful it is

Byte Commander

Can anyone help me troubleshooting a PPTP VPN connection failure?

edward torvalds

sorry, never done it, but I can help you quake it!

Byte Commander

:-/

~$ nmcli -p con up myvpn
Error: Connection activation failed: unknown reason.

Very informative.

edward torvalds

haha, send this error to red hat :D

Byte Commander

2:46 PM

Why? o.o

edward torvalds

they are the one who made it

it = NetworkManager

Byte Commander

o.O

Okay... I'm confused.

edward torvalds

@ByteCommander Original author(s) Red Hat. ref: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetworkManager

Byte Commander

Aha. Got to go... :P

kos

Am I wrong or the Main site's sidebar and the Meta site's sidebar (those with the "Hot Meta Post" etc sections) used to be synchronized once? Or they've always been out-of-sync?

edward torvalds

2:57 PM

@kos maybe you are wrong :P

kos

@edwardtorvalds Yeah I'm starting to suspect that, maybe I just never noticed them being out-of-sync till now.

edward torvalds

they are in sync to me

try clearing your browser cache?

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