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19:00
@kos Your profile is following you around
kos
kos
@crasic What you mean?
@A.B. When I try to torify apt-get, I get beaten down by a load of errors... :P
Do I need a tor instance to be running in the background for that?
@ByteCommander In my answer it worked. The lady was very happy.
It seems like when I installed tor, it started a background service or process or whatever.
but this broke my connection for Firefox, so I killed it.
@ByteCommander More magic >:) askubuntu.com/a/700523/367165
19:14
221 CPM on first try.... :P
I'm not satisfied. Would have been faster on sentences than unrelated words.
kos
kos
@A.B. But doesn't that prevent Perl / packages dependent on Perl upgrade if they require the Perl version from the repository?
@A.B. Got my last vote of today! :)
@kos No, never
@ByteCommander Unfortunately no longer counts.
kos
kos
@A.B. I mean it's the same version that's in the repository?
@A.B. You're full again? I could still manage 35 more points today... ;)
19:17
@kos yes, it's exactly the same version
kos
kos
@A.B. Ok. I'm not sure if you want the upvote right now since you're full. :)
@ByteCommander No votes left =\
@kos Tomorrow is a new day =)
kos
kos
@A.B. Ok. Remind me tomorrow :)
=)
@kos Full House - AB german standard time : 12.00 ... so hurry tomorrow ! =)
19:23
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Q: Unbootable system after successfully following 'Converting Ubuntu into Legacy mode'

edward torvaldsI had Ubuntu 15.10 installed in UEFI mode before following method below. I am following this wiki to convert Ubuntu into Legacy mode and carried out following steps: Booted into BIOS mode (not in UEFI mode) created a small unformatted partition at the beginning of hard drive using gparted with ...

kos
kos
@cl-netbox I'm sorry, I'm tired and I'm not quite getting that. What do you mean exactly?
please help :'(
@edwardtorvalds is this your personal case ?
@cl-netbox what do you mean?
@cl-netbox personal?
@edwardtorvalds I will try to help you ... but it might take some time ... :)
@cl-netbox please do
kos
kos
@A.B. @cl-netbox You got "Legendary" before 11 A.M.? That means you got at least +200 in between when you woke up and 11 A.M.
@kos exactly what I wanted to say : 12.00 ... =)
kos
kos
@cl-netbox Yeah, got it. :)
19:31
@kos this never happens to me ... :(
Some votes? I still need 35 more points today! ;-) askubuntu.com/a/700531/367990
kos
kos
@cl-netbox To no regular user I guess. Just A.B.
@kos Yes that's true ! :)
@edwardtorvalds Why did you want to convert from efi to legacy ?
@cl-netbox long story short, If I install second linux OS the EFI partition some how gets corrupt and I have to reinstall every single OS on hard drive again
kos
kos
@ByteCommander There you go. ;)
19:36
I am getting timeouts... :P
@kos don't forget me ... =)
@edwardtorvalds I did this a lot of times with e.g. fedora and ubuntu - every OS boot loader has it's own folder in efi partition - the problem starts when there is a kernel upgrade in one of them ...
kos
kos
@cl-netbox ? You want upvotes?
@cl-netbox every OS has its own separate efi partition? and not common?
@kos HAHAHA why not - if you find something good ... ? =)
@edwardtorvalds no - 1 partition for efi - different folders there ...
anyway I use a common ueif partition for all os
19:43
@edwardtorvalds yes this is correct and what I meant
@kos Do you want ... as well ? :)
Why does the inbound connection work perfectly, but when I want to send something, it works only after the 5th timeout?
user139252
Wait, did I help @A.B. answer a question and not get rep for it? :P
@edwardtorvalds I have to think about it - it's not trivial ... can you provide me with a screenshot from gparted ?
@cl-netbox it is in the question, the first image
19:46
Why does the inbound connection work perfectly, but when I want to send something, it works only after the 5th timeout?
@edwardtorvalds no this is from disks - I mean gparted
wait please
kos
kos
@cl-netbox I was looking at your tags, you only have 2 answers and 0 answers. I voted on this one (askubuntu.com/a/668741/380067) since it's useful, however I suggest you to suggest to get a root shell from GRUB instead of from a Live DVD, It's way easier / faster
user139252
Don't want to make a whole question out of this yet... I'm trying to reinstall Trusty on my laptop with Wily, as I am having network issues with Wily. When I tried to install the first time, I got an error saying "You can't have partition outside of disk". Then, I rebooted, got past time-zone selection, and it said the installer crashed.
user139252
19:49
Is this just an issue with my download? Should I try getting the image again?
@kos very nice of you - thank you ! my main topics are boot and graphics ... :)
@edwardtorvalds thank you - this is good - I am afk for 10 min now - then check and continue - but first impression : messed up - please wait ... :)
kos
kos
@edwardtorvalds +1 for having written "tty7" on the frame of the monitor!
kos
kos
@cl-netbox Yeah, I've noticed. In fact I've rarely read answers of yours. We usually lurk around very different tags
@kos +1 from me to getting it become a GURU one -> askubuntu.com/questions/665612/…
kos
kos
19:54
@cl-netbox Thanks, if you can vote also on muru's answer on that one. His answer is better than mine.
@ByteCommander please don't kill my tox machine =)
@kos will do ... now afk for 10 min ... :)
@HeatherBrown I love you too >:)
Leave your computer for a little while and the conversations in here change dramatically. =)
Chrome Extensions – AKA Total Absence of Privacy - Detectify Labs. Short version, some Chrome And Firefox Extensions/addons, sell your browser usage to third parties
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Someone star that ^
Thank you.
If someone here uses the:
> Ant Video Downloader
There out of luck
who is up for 2015 Moderator Election?
does anybody knows how to start GUI application form chroot?
20:07
@edwardtorvalds I'm back - start checking ... :)
@kos done ! :)
@cl-netbox I am giving up
@edwardtorvalds let's test something : boot from ubuntu install media - open a terminal and execute :
sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda
@cl-netbox I did that already before boot repair
@cl-netbox I followed askubuntu.com/a/31868/294611
@edwardtorvalds please try out my suggestion :) and tell me if it worked ... I wait for you :)
@cl-netbox thanks for your help, I am giving up troubleshooting, and I am reverting my actions
20:16
Woo, that's a 4k reps :D
@edwardtorvalds it only takes a few minutes to try this ... :)
@cl-netbox I really apreciate your eagerness to help me, but I am already half way to revert
@edwardtorvalds okay ... the best way would be to completely rebuild the disk in gpt (efi) mode and restore or reinstall everything ... if it was my machine I would do this :)
@cl-netbox sorry
I am just tired now, its 2am here
@edwardtorvalds I wish you good luck ... and sleep well ! :)
20:20
thanks
for a while I will be here
@cl-netbox cannot umount because drive is busy
@intex Work! :P
Hi @Fabby my friend ! :)
@edwardtorvalds what cannot be unmounted ?
@cl-netbox Import running on the server, so behind my computer again
a partition
@edwardtorvalds then reboot the machine
20:25
@cl-netbox (sorry for earlier, but I had to do a grep and lc and expr in one command and I needed to concentrate.
@cl-netbox cant I need that partition before reboot
user136984
@Fabby: No close bracket?
user136984
:P
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Q: How to share common configurations amongst Nginx server blocks?

RedactedProfileHosting multiple sites with the same Nginx, and a lot of them share common configurations. Such as protection against POODLE and even entire sets of redirects. I tried using the include directive but that didn't seem to do the trick (it acts as if the configuration isn't even there. But Nginx -t...

@Fabby I did not mind because I understood you were very busy and had to concentrate ... :)
20:26
@ParanoidPanda as long as I have the correct closebrakckets here:
@edwardtorvalds no - seems not ...
#!/bin/bash
echo heading 10 lines...
head --lines=10 NewArtikelen.clean > NewArtikelen.10
head --lines=10 NewArtikelLeveranciers.clean > NewArtikelLeveranciers.10
head --lines=10 NewArtikelLaatsteAankoopprijs.clean > NewArtikelLaatsteAankoopprijs.10
head --lines=10 NewArtikelMinMaxVoorraad.clean > NewArtikelMinMaxVoorraad.10
head --lines=10 NewArtikelVerkoopprijzen-2.clean > NewArtikelVerkoopprijzen-2.10
head --lines=10 NewArtikelVerkoopprijzen-3.clean > NewArtikelVerkoopprijzen-3.10
Tim
Tim
14.04, locked screen to go to lunch, upon return from lunch cat was sitting on keyboard, login screen was frozen & unresponsive. To replicate: In unity hit ctrl-alt-l, place keyboard on chair. Sit on keyboard. Resolution: Switched to virtual terminal, restarted lightdm, lost all open windows in X session. What should have happened: lightdm not becoming unresponsive.
unity (Ubuntu)
Medium / Confirmed
5
user139252
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user136984
Aww... Non of my Tox contacts are online... :(
user139252
20:32
What?
kos
kos
@Fabby Are you on a very tight environment or cat is the new cp? :)
@Tim That's hilarious
Tim
Tim
@kos and it's an actual bug as well :P
kos
kos
Indeed. :D
user136984
@Tim: GDM copes much better... :P
Tim
Tim
@ParanoidPanda yes, I just tested it :P
20:35
@kos :D True but originally those were 3 cats...
so I was in a frame of mind to cat and then forgot to change that one to cp...
user136984
I don't have a cat, but I've tested it with large slices of chocolate cake!
@ParanoidPanda Ah here it's going to be walnut tart!
user139252
>I have tested this on 15.10 and cannot reproduce it.
What type of cat did you use? This may require a certain weight distribution and pawing behaviour to avoid keyboard buffer overflow.
user136984
:D
user139252
What type of cat did you use?
user139252
20:38
Alright, I haven't used chroot in a while...
user139252
Let's say I'm in a live-boot, right?
user139252
I have Ubuntu installed on /dev/sda5
user139252
Can I chroot into the mounted point for /dev/sda5 and run sudo apt-get install foo bar to install an app to that installation of Ubuntu?
I'm I the only one that is getting nervous when trump says stuff like "...Wants Mandatory Badges On Muslim Americans". And then a day after, it is said the "...he is a clear number one..." in the republican race.
kos
kos
@Fabby As always. I'll fix that later...
Tim
Tim
20:40
@blade19899 nope, and I live in the UK... but boy and I worried...
kos
kos
And years afterwards the workaround is still there
user139252
@blade19899 If he gets elected, I'm moving in with my cousin in Munich.
@Tim Reagean got te be president, if this guys becomes president, hit the deck, cause s**t is about to hit the fan.
Tim
Tim
But bear in mind he has 27% and clinton has 55 ish
yes :(
@HeatherBrown I hear Canada is lovely XD
20:42
@Tim Fantastic!
user139252
Alright, finally got Trusty back on in place of Wily. Gonna reboot.
@kos fixed!
Tim
Tim
when is the US race not closely tied?
I still don't understand your system...
@Tim The US election race will not be closely tied the day the candidates will not be able to advertise on the media...
Think about it:
Who is doing these polls?
The media!
Who is getting most of the advertisement money from the candidates?
The media
@Fabby correct !
Tim
Tim
20:45
I know I'm bais, but I still think the UK has a slightly saner system
A.k.a. The media circus!
nah: the Athenians had it right:
citizens are allowed to vote and have to serve in parliament (unpaid) for at least one year in their life...
Oh and the Romans too before Caesar...
I will leave ... see you tomorrow ... :)
@cl-netbox Guten Nacht!
Tim
Tim
The UK has a massively low budget for spending on campaigns i think...
@Tim Campaigns, no?
@Fabby Gute Nacht - schlaf gut mein Freund ! :)
Tim
Tim
US = ~ 6.5B
kos
kos
@Fabby :D
@Tim yup and all those companies "donating" money expect kick-backs...
20:49
hello
So basically, the US system is slowly evolving into fascism..
(fascism is a political system where the corporations and the government are in bed together)
kos
kos
Meanwhile my ethernet card is melting the glue under the Intel sticker from beneath.
Night @cl-netbox
Tim
Tim
:p
£15,000 total spent on campaigning per mp
and £20,000,000 total for the whole county per party
UK don't allow politivcal TV adverts
(Do you understand my stance on Benjamin Franklin's quote better now? ;-) ) @Tim
Tim
Tim
Hmm not really tbh
20:55
(how's your German anyway?
Did you get it?
Tim
Tim
As good as google translate is :p
The poster says:
Tim
Tim
I'm still on the side of monitoring is good.
the meaning of the Hitler salute:
Tim
Tim
ohh
20:56
Millions are behind him.
Small man asking for big donations...
@Tim I read a book when I was your age about a German girl in the Hitlerjügend
Tim
Tim
okay
hitler youth
(well, it was called different for the girls, but you get the point)
Tim
Tim
okay
it was required reading at my school together with the diary of Anne Frank.
(both the original versions: no translations)
Tim
Tim
okay wow
Bund Deutscher Mädel (BDM)
21:02
and there she explains how the Nazi's took over stuff.
Tim
Tim
ahh
little by little, freedoms were taken away until none was left and neighbour's spied on neighbours and children spied on their parents.
jrg
jrg
Reset the godwins law counter!
Tim
Tim
hmm yes
Read 1984: this was written in 1948 and depicts a society where WWII never happened!
If you can read all three books (even when reading a translation)
and then think about the fact that Benjamin Franklin's wise words pre-date all that by 1050 years or so...
Tim
Tim
21:07
@Fabby I've read 1984
but these are the extremes...
Well, read the others too, or read on how the Nazis came to power...
If I'm not mistaken, they never had the majority in the parliament...
They did have a blocking minority though...
Tim
Tim
@Fabby he was elected eventually
@Tim He never was...
Tim
Tim
Yes, which failed and was then elected with 44%
My personal experience: back in the 90s I visited Paris with my then girl-friend
Tim
Tim
Federal elections were held in Germany on 31 July 1932, following the premature dissolution of the Reichstag. They saw great gains by the Nazi Party, which for the first time became the largest party in parliament, though without winning a majority. With the Communists remaining strong, anti-republican parties together now had a majority in the Reichstag (called a "negative majority" by contemporary observers since the two parties would never have allied), making a (majority) government by any union of pro-republican parties impossible. == BackgroundEdit == Since 1929, Germany was suffering from...
15 minutes after we exited a particular metro station a bomb went off killing a few and injuring 100s
Tim
Tim
21:11
:(
My mum was working in london on the day of the 7/7 bombings
Reading after finishing my story:
have I gone back to Paris?
Yes!
The same metro station?
yes!
I'm more likely being run over by a car in Paris then by being bombed.
(reading)
Tim
Tim
Yeah I know - you're more likely do die choking on a peanut too!
@Tim quoting from the article you sent me: "They saw great gains by the Nazi Party, which for the first time became the largest party in parliament, though without winning a majority. "
jrg
jrg
More americans are killed by furniture each year than terrorists. DOWN WITH SOFA!
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exactly as I said: they had a blocking minority.
Tim
Tim
21:14
Nah, they didn't need the majority tho
But they were elected...? No?
@jrg Starred!
jrg
jrg
There, merged the 2 for maximum internet points.
Tim
Tim
And I'm not suggesting the UK bans peanuts... But I do think that terror attacks have a much, much greater impact than just the number of people killed
jrg
jrg
@Tim Because we give them that power.
Tim
Tim
@jrg yes :(
21:15
@Tim Yes, but they never had a majority, but still removed freedoms from the people, thereby causing all sorts of grief.
Tim
Tim
But I'm not sure that a solution that is "ignore the terrorists" is better than "stop the terrorists by spying on people"
@jrg Good thinking!
I didn't know which to star!
jrg
jrg
The murder down the street from my house - I (outwardly) don't care. It happened. It's tragic. But it has no power over me, because I refuse to live in fear.
@Tim I never said that!
Tim
Tim
No, no I know :)
21:16
I said: "Do something else then spying on people to stop the terrorists!"
ANYTHING else, really!
Tim
Tim
@Fabby but I'm really not sure we (or they) know what ANYTHING could constitute?
I mean bomb syrria is maybe better, but... :/
@Tim Are you asking me what to do?
@Tim No, it's not! Bombing anyone never is the solution!
jrg
jrg
It's a simple thing in business - you set up a program to prevent ThingA. In order to justify the cost of ThingA, you have to make sure that ThingA doesn't happen again, because of the PreventThingAProgram.
Tim
Tim
@Fabby nah, I'm saying I don't think anyone knows what to do
jrg
jrg
If ThingA still happens, you scratch PreventThingAProgram and try something else.
21:18
@Tim I know, because I'm not human...
:P ;-)
Tim
Tim
:P
@jrg yes, an elderly woman was killed when a bus hit her last week. The timing of that bus could have been the one I was on etc. But I'm not letting that get to me, despite how sad it is. But if in one day, 129 people were killed along that bus route, I'd sit up and pay attention tbh
jrg
jrg
What we know about Paris terrorists -Not Syrian -Not refugees -No encryption What the US is focusing on -Syrians -Refugees -Encryption
Mr. DLin71 sums it up nicely.
The not refugees part isn't entirely true, they do know that at least one of them came through the refugee system
jrg
jrg
A reaction is probably warranted. But it has to match reality.
Tim
Tim
@jrg I'm worried by the Hamster Hair Trump dude...
21:20
However, I'm not against refugees/syrians
jrg
jrg
@Tim OMG Trump would be the best president ever.
So many lawsuits against him.
Tim
Tim
@RPiAwesomeness They don't know it's his passport atm
jrg
jrg
the EFF, ACLU and everyone else wouldn't have enough money to file suits fast enough.
21:23
@jrg lol
@RPiAwesomeness Well, I don't know if it's on the news in the UK and the USA, but there is a strong Belgian connection...
Yeah, that's what I've heard
Seems like they came from Sint-Jans Molenbeek...
Tim
Tim
@jrg "Let's close all mosques down". "Let's make Muslims wear a badge like the Jews did under Nazis". "Let's ban Mexicans". "Let's give everyone guns cos that helps with Homicide rates". "Let's block Syrian refugees because our lives are more important than theirs"...
I need to have a stern talk with a dfriend of mine who's living there too!
jrg
jrg
21:25
@Tim I didn't say he'd be a logical president.
Tim
Tim
:P
List of countries by intentional homicide rate per year per 100,000 inhabitants. The reliability of underlying national murder rate data may vary. The legal definition of "intentional homicide" differs among countries. Intentional homicide may or may not include infanticide, assisted suicide or euthanasia. Intentional homicide demographics are affected by changes in trauma care, leading to changed lethality of violent assaults, so the intentional homicide rate may not necessarily indicate the overall level of societal violence. They may also be under-reported for political reasons. Another problem...
jrg
jrg
(Please note that I am not going to be voting for Trump if he is in the primary)
@jrg Though I wish to star that: I won't...
Tim
Tim
okay :P
@Tim Well, if they include euthanasia, Belgium is going to be high on the list!!!
Tim
Tim
21:27
@Fabby it's legal there?
hu
@Tim first country to make it legal...
Just like gay marriage: there has never been a provision in the law that gays were not allowed to marry (if they were not minors)
jrg
jrg
@Tim So this is where I'm going to say that if we're all interested in continuing this, I'd like to move it to it's own room.
Yah... Sorry! I get carried away when I see stuff about freedoms being taken away. (reminds me too much of my high school history lessons)
shutting up now...
Tim
Tim
Me too :p should do some work
jrg
jrg
I'm fine with having this conversation, just should be moved off this room.
(Being moderator sucks, sorry. I have to be somewhat responsible)
Tim
Tim
21:29
yeah nah tis fine :p
@jrg :D I like the "somewhat" ;-)
jrg
jrg
I mean, the other thing is that to be perfectly blunt, we aren't going to change each others opinions anyway....
Not that anyone here doesn't have an open mind, it's just the way it works with these subjects.
AFK
21:59
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