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18:00
@ByteCommander I'm done either. It's a bit too consuming to run those tests.
18:18
@ByteCommander Great = reading ...
@ParanoidPanda That's new?
So that UTF-8 Option+letter translator I was making mostly works with capitals and sort of with lowercase. The problem is Python doesn't take all the special characters, so some are the same, some are question marks and some are blank
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@A.B.: Yep, they only introduced that feature in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10.
I've been playing with zenity yesterday, and today I cannot find it in history, neither in bash nor mksh
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@Serg: I like it! :)
18:25
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@ByteCommander still around ?
@Serg Almost.
Anyone knowing how to use gauges (progress bars) in NotifyOSD bubbles, preferably from Python?
Or at least where the source of the responsible package is?
@NathanOsman Have you ever played with that feature yet maybe?
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@Nathan: That's the longest one I've seen yet! :D
@ByteCommander Nope, afraid not.
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18:31
@ParanoidPanda Longest what?
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When are you going to get it fixed?
Oh.
When I have the time. Hopefully soon.
Awww. Too bad.
API documentations for Unity is AWFUL!
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Do you even know why it's happening?
@ByteCommander So remember that timer question ? I'm gonna be using zenity form for user input. So far I've "Session time" , "Break time" , and "Screen Lock vs Dim" options. Any suggestion what else to add ?
18:32
Right now I'm trying to figure out why my custom-compiled kernel won't load init...
@ParanoidPanda Not exactly, but I was able to reproduce it. And I captured the DOM at that point.
@Serg Add option to show cute kitten screensaver.
@ByteCommander Oo good idea . . .kittens rule the world !
@ByteCommander I concur.
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@Serg: No they don't! Pandas do! >:P
Especially for Python, all official links to docs are dead or the linked site is so short and incomplete that it's useless as well. For apindicators, for notifications, ...
Does anyone know in which package the Unity Audio indicator is located then at least?
It displays such a gauge - maybe I can learn from that.
But I have no idea where to search for it! :P
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18:35
Can't you use apt-file to find it?
@ParanoidPanda That works how?
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@ByteCommander: You can ask it to search all packages for a term.
Currently installing it...
Now I just needed to know the file name of the audio indicator!
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Once it is installed you will need to run sudo apt-file update to download the information you will search through, you should do this on a regular basis as new packages and versions will become available.
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@ParanoidPanda What are you doing?
18:39
@ParanoidPanda Done. But what file name should I search for?
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Well, read through the man page of apt-file first and then try a few things, like "Audio Indicator".
@ParanoidPanda That gives about 10k lines... :P
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@HeatherBrown: Posting a screenshot of a bug in Nathan's SE chat script.
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Ah, understood.
So systemd is exiting with a return code of 0x00000004.
Interesting...
I have absolutely no clue what that means.
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18:43
@ByteCommander: What exact command did you use?
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NOOOOOOOO!
@ParanoidPanda apt-file find audio
@NathanOsman Question. What's the use of using a virtualenv?
@RPiAwesomeness Isolating dependencies from the system.
18:45
Anyway, it's late now.
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Probably want to try the list option, but I think that you need to be more specific.
@RPiAwesomeness That way you can have different Python scripts using different versions of modules.
I'm tired of this unity documentation nightmare.
Someone send a message with the Alt Gr thing
@NathanOsman Ah, so it's for testing stuff with older versions?
Or newer
kos
kos
18:46
@Zacharee1 @ł€¶ŧ←↓→øþ
Maybe I'll try to find the email of such a dev and tell him something about proper API docs. :P
@RPiAwesomeness It goes beyond testing though - it's highly recommended for virtually any use.
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@ByteCommander: Well, one option is to stop using Unity! :P
We use it in production on 2buntu.
user136984
18:46
The other is to give up...
@kos @?
It just seems like a lot of complication for limited gain
so good night guys then! o/
kos
kos
@Zacharee1 Apparently (AltGr+Q)
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@ByteCommander: Goodnight! :)
18:47
@kos for me that's œ
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Night @ByteCommander o/
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\o
@RPiAwesomeness For example, say you have an old Python script that needs SQLAlchemy < 0.7 and you have a newer one that needs 0.9. You can't have both installed on the same system, obviously. A virtualenv can be created for each script though.
kos
kos
@Zacharee1 I have an Italian layout though
@NathanOsman Ah. But unless I have to have an older version, do I need to use one?
18:48
@kos This is Qwerty US I think
@RPiAwesomeness It also makes it easy to undo things. To blow away all of the modules that were installed, just remove the virtualenv directory.
@kos what did you actually type?
kos
kos
@Zacharee1 qwertyuiop
@RPiAwesomeness You're not required to use it, no. But it's recommended.
I use it for local development.
@kos wow, it's different.
18:49
@NathanOsman k. I think I'll have to look into how this actually works
@kos this is Macintosh intl
@RPiAwesomeness Once you have virtualenv installed, you can create a new one with "virtualenv /some/path"
Then just run "source <virtualenv_dir>/bin/activate" to activate it.
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@RPiAwesomeness In fact, let me share a script with you that I wrote.
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So it sort of works :p
18:51
O_o
@Zacharee1 *cough* Sandbox *cough*
@Zacharee1 If you're testing chat features, there's a room just for that
@NathanOsman yeah, sorry
@RPiAwesomeness not chat features

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
@Zacharee1 Or any stuffs really :P
kos
kos
@Zacharee1 I don't have AltGr combos in any other layout that I'm trying (En (US), It (Macintosh))
huh
Weird
kos
kos
18:53
Yep
Oh, it's US Mac
Then you can do "./workon <name>" and it will create a virtualenv if it doesn't exist or activate it if it does. It assumes "name" is the directory containing the project code.
kos
kos
Why you wanted someone to type some though?
I wanted to try out the translator I made and find any mistakes
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18:57
What is it with that Game Dev chat room? So many invalid flags in one day...
They just hate people :D
kos
kos
Not too much clearer but ok. :D
@RPiAwesomeness You should have been here the other day.
I made a Python script that translated the Alt Gr chars to their corresponding keyboard locations
There was a different room giving us mods a problem.
kos
kos
18:59
Ah cool. But it seems to vary based on the layout
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: How to fix webcam quality in skype by Kikay Lee on askubuntu.com
Is eye of gnome default in Ubuntu ?
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How can I delete an account on SE by the way? As I have one on Arqade that I never use so would like to remove it.
kos
kos
@SmokeDetector Extremely spammy
19:01
What even was that answer?
WOOOO! Gooo RPi.SE :D
Haven't been terribly active, but wewt wewt!
kos
kos
It's indeed spam
@NathanOsman I really like the logo
My Python script seems to work for everything now except for E and I always being in caps. Hooray!
And N
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This has made me think, are there any applications which can make your computer spookier? :D
19:06
@ParanoidPanda That's one constructive comment you left :p
@ParanoidPanda a keylogger :P
kos
kos
I'm giving two spare votes to two reasonable questions / answers if you want
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
kos
kos
Nope sorry, only one. My bad
@kos I wouldn't mind an upgoat or two :D
jk ;)
19:13
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@GeoMint o/
kos
kos
@RPiAwesomeness Shoot a nice one!
@Zacharee1 hello :)
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@Zacharee1:
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So who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!Paranoid Panda 1 min ago
@ParanoidPanda ಠ_ಠ
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19:14
I'm even tempted to post an answer along those lines... :P
@ParanoidPanda Expect -10000000 rep
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:D
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kos
kos
@RPiAwesomeness Nevermind, just picked your top answer. :D
@kos That works :) Thx
kos
kos
19:17
Np! And just realized I was at 29, not a 39.
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@Zacharee1: I posted it, but then deleted it, some guy with 10k will come across it though one day and have a good laugh! :D
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@ParanoidPanda lol
hahahaha
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19:21
@Zacharee1 What on earth are you even doing?
Now to make a script that works in the other direction
@RPiAwesomeness Alt Gr + keys
I'm sending you messages that you can't even understand :p
OMGOMGOGMGOMGOM
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@A.B.: Do you think this answer is appropriate? :D
19:22
Apparently @blade19899 is excited
0 A.D. Milestone Alpha 19 – Wildfire Games, has only 2 bugs left!!!
@RPiAwesomeness Yep ^
@ParanoidPanda It's been deleted ;)
bye ... see you :)
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@RPiAwesomeness: I know, I did that, because it's not a real answer, just something funny someone with enough rep might come across one day! :D
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@cl-netbox: Bye! :)
19:24
@ParanoidPanda Ah :)
Well, the link actually links to that Q
kos
kos
Night @cl-netbox o/
Oooh, I get it now
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@RPiAwesomeness: Not if you have 10k.
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@A.B.: Do you see it? :D Or has it become a real ghost? :D
@ParanoidPanda I can see it
19:27
The two bugs that need to be fixed before I can play the latest 0 A.D.:
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I do like this song! :D
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@kos: What was your edit?
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@blade19899 do they make other games?
kos
kos
19:32
@ParanoidPanda A ghost edit. ;)
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:D
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Seriously though, how come it doesn't show anything?
@GeoMint As fas as I can tell, no. Gam engine, for 0ad, and a mod, for total war:
There website^
kos
kos
19:33
@ParanoidPanda Because I've just added a line and removed it within the grace period. I didn't think it would have let me edit a deleted answer. But it makes sense
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@kos: What? Which line?
@fossfreedom you have added some text here askubuntu.com/revisions/311911/4 is that right?
> Wildfire Games is a global group of volunteer game developers.
We create open source games and mods.
kos
kos
@ParanoidPanda I've added one and immediately removed it (at the top)
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Ok, why? :D
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19:37
@kos: Also, what do you think of the answer? :D
kos
kos
@ParanoidPanda To see if it would have let me edit it. I never tried doing that, I used yours as sandbox since it wasn't even a real answer ;)
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Ok :D
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@Fabby: So, who you gonna call? ;P
That was easier to do than I thought
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@Zacharee1: What? Call Ghostbusters? :P
19:47
@ParanoidPanda no, my translator script :p
Most of it works fine
But some chars are the same under Alt Gr and some, like N,n,x, don't work
kos
kos
@ParanoidPanda It's nice!
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Thanks! :D
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I'm super new to Ubuntu. Is there a way to send something from a server to an active SSH connection?
@Zacharee1 LOL
19:57
@MorganThrapp Like copy from the server to local over SSH?
@GeoMint ō_ô
@Zacharee1 Yeah.
But pushed from the server, not pulled from the client.
@MorganThrapp Just use Cyberduck
@Zacharee1 what excactly does your script?
SSH file access
@GeoMint you know the Macintosh Alt + letter thing that gives special characters?
I'm using the US layout on my computer
@MorganThrapp Not to an active SSH connection that I know of, but you can use sftp to connect to a server and it'll let you transfer stuff
19:59
@RPiAwesomeness Alright, thanks.
The script translates to and from the corresponding special characters
With some errors
So: the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog becomes
†˙e œuiç° ∫®ø∑˜˜ ƒø˜ ∆uµπß ø√e® †˙e ¬åΩ¥ ∂ø©
hhahahaha
And back: the quick brow˜˜ fo˜ jumps over the lazy dog
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N,n and x don't work and X just translates to itself
20:01
i see
Only works for the US layout right now
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hahaha
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:P
If you were willing to make a character map, I could edit the script so that you could choose between GR and US
means wonderful
20:02
character map? like ascii ?
¡ = 1, ⁄ = !, ™ = 2, € = @
Like that
But for every character, with and without SHIFT being held
(It takes a while)
but some characters are not fonetic right :P i can help you a bit
@A.B. yeah - seemed reasonable to put the OP "answer" as part of his original question rather than just deleting it outright.
20:03
@GeoMint ?
@fossfreedom ok, thank you
@Zacharee1 i mean 'χ'= 'ch' it translates to 2 characters
hmm i understand what you mean now, sorry
Not a language translator, just which Alt Gr character corresponds to which key.
Yeah
can you send me the character map of US ?
So ≤ corresponds to ,
Yeah, hang on
I'm going to paste it in Sandbox though

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
20:22
Why the freakin bash doesn't wait for functions to complete like it does with external programs ?
@ByteCommander You use Wily, right?
kos
kos
@Serg Like?
20:41
I'm really hoping this kernel is going to be the one I need.
want
@muru interesting read, thanks for the share.
20:57
@Zacharee1 goodnight
bb guys
@GeoMint night
@kos I kind of figured that out already . . . I am calling a function from a loop. That function calls another function. So when function exists, loop continues, and it doesn't wait for the second function
I just can't get this kernel to work :(
It keeps panicking when trying to start init.
Maybe I really need the RPi toolchain.
Only three words – Read the question! askubuntu.com/a/699307/367165 o_O
21:18
Some dude just walked into the lab and asked me "What does a pirate say ? " oO
Also, who want's to test my timer script ?
21:37
@Serg which script?
@A.B. it doesn't helps? :p
@A.B. the timer one
5
A: A timer that automatically locks the screen to take a break away from the computer?

SergCrude, minimalistic, command-line way: sleep 1500; gnome-screensaver-command -l; sleep 300; killall gnome-screensaver That can also be turned into a desktop shortcut or turned into function in .bashrc Why 1500 and 300? because that's seconds, 1500 seconds /60 seconds per minute = 25 minutes. ...

Please please please review
@Serg interesting
Who knows how to rewrite Python in C++?
21:53
I know both Python and C++.
So I may be able to help.
22:08
@Zacharee1 need to fix small bug, I forgot to convert minutes to seconds
:p
@NathanOsman Are there dictionaries in C?
Nope, there aren't.
C++ provides std::map.
Is there a parallel?
Not in C, no.
You'd need to use a third part library or write something.
Then that's going to be a big if-else or switch
22:10
Isn't C++ an option?
This is the Python script:
` import ASCIITrans as tr

while(True):
x = list(input("\nPlease enter String to translate (can be either decoded or encoded): "))
z = len(x)
for i in range(z):
y = x.pop(i)
if y in tr.ASCIIT:
print(tr.ASCIIT[y], end="")
elif y in tr.REV:
print(tr.REV[y], end="")
else:
print(y, end="")
# print(tr.ASCIIT[y])
y = x.insert(i, y) # this must be at the end of the loop!!!!!`
It imports a dictionary and searches it for the characters, then prints what they correspond to, in either direction
import ASCIITrans as tr

while(True):
    x = list(input("\nPlease enter String to translate (can be either decoded or encoded): "))
    z = len(x)
    for i in range(z):
        y = x.pop(i)
        if y in tr.ASCIIT:
            print(tr.ASCIIT[y], end="")
        elif y in tr.REV:
            print(tr.REV[y], end="")
        else:
            print(y, end="")
        # print(tr.ASCIIT[y])
        y = x.insert(i, y) # this must be at the end of the loop!!!!!
There
Uhm... there is another way to write the loop:
x = input("\nPlease enter String to translate (can be either decoded or encoded): ")
for y in x:
    # do stuffs...
Then you're not popping, pushing, and indexing into the list.
Oh, wow. I need to try that out when I get back.
To be fair, though, this thing was written in like ten minutes
@Rinzwind @KGIII @A.B. @Zacharee1 @Fabby @Oli @ByteCommander So . . . . . .posted a small script . . . .What do you guys think ? Can I give Jacob a competition there ?
5
A: A timer that automatically locks the screen to take a break away from the computer?

SergCrude, minimalistic, command-line way: sleep 1500; gnome-screensaver-command -l; sleep 300; killall gnome-screensaver That can also be turned into a desktop shortcut or turned into function in .bashrc Why 1500 and 300? because that's seconds, 1500 seconds /60 seconds per minute = 25 minutes. ...

Again, nice
22:24
@terdon ^
'Snot bad looking - I left you a comment. ;-)
@KGIII saw that. Will edit the shortcut part as soon as I come back from lunch. Thanks
No worries. That and the content at the linked URL is subject to change.
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22:41
> Multiple buffer overflows in the (1) png_set_PLTE and (2) png_get_PLTE functions in libpng before 1.0.64, 1.1.x and 1.2.x before 1.2.54, 1.3.x and 1.4.x before 1.4.17, 1.5.x before 1.5.24, and 1.6.x before 1.6.19 allow remote attackers to cause a denial of service (application crash) or possibly have unspecified other impact via a small bit-depth value in an IHDR (aka image header) chunk in a PNG image.
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I hope that this will be patched quickly.
@ParanoidPanda what do you think of my tomatoScript ?
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@Serg: You're what? :D
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Have I missed something...?
22:49
Scroll up. I cannot post link as im on mobile. It's a script for a pomodoro timer
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@Serg: Ah, looks cool! :)
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Right, well, goodnight guys! :)
@ParanoidPanda Goodnight! =)
23:06
Maybe I'll try compiling busybox...
@Terrance do you have /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_unity_greeter_background.gschema.override file ?
I cannot remember if that has to be manually created or not'
@Serg Let me check
@Serg I don't have the greeter_background file at all. Looks like it might be manual. My system was set up with GDM originally, if that makes any difference.
@Terrance got it , thanks
@NathanOsman it works! Thanks
You're welcome.
Woot! I managed to get bash built.
23:19
It's annoying that Python doesn't recognize ´, ˜, and some other accent-like things
Bash won't run :(
Script for changing unity greeter background is ready for freddy
23:39
@Serg Very nice!
@terdon ^~^ doing my best to advance in the rank of bash scripting
Any C users around?
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>

int main()
{
    char *const args[] = {};
    char *errstr;
    int err;

    err = execv("/bin/bash", args);
    errstr = strerror(err);
    printf("Error: %s\n", errstr);

    return 0;
}
^--- keeps returning an error.
Error: Unknown error -1
Helpful, eh?
Typical C verbosity.
But how come it won't start Bash? The file exists.
Well, you know the drill, start commenting out lines until you find the one it's choking on. Then spend the next couple of hours figuring out why.
23:50
That's a very small and trivial example already.
@NathanOsman that's a weird syntax
True.
@Serg Where?
But that's all the help my piti-fu can offer.
char *const args[] = {};
Never seen that before
23:51
Just to clarify, in case someone got confused. It's a runtime error, not a compiler error.
Oh, /facepalm.
> "The exec() functions only return if an error has occurred. The return value is -1, and errno is set to indicate the error."
So that's why no error was showing up.
@NathanOsman in my case it gives no error
just launches bash
Now I get a "descriptive" error:
nathan@nathan-desktop:~/c_test$ gcc test.c -o test && ./test
Error: Bad address
user139252
How can I explain Dr. Who to a co-worker who does not believe?
Practice on me - I don't know anything about it :P
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So, it's about an alien who calls himself "The Doctor". He is of a race called time-lords, and has the ability to regenerate through up to 12 deaths. Each time he regenerates, he keeps his memories and experiences and core values, but changes face and personality.
23:57
...upon "death"
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He travels through time and space to protect the time-line and stop baddies from doing bad things.
mostly on Earth. He's "The Protector" of Earth
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Would you watch it?
I would go with intense sci-fi, instead of a detailed description
Adventure, horror (Weeping Angels), comedy
O...kay.
I'm not much of a Sci-Fi guy, but that does sound like a fascinating summary.

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