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RPi Awesomeness

00:33

In Soviet Russia table flips you! ノ┬─┬ノ︵ ( \o°o)\

2

Found that today xD

@NathanOsman Has to do with locale IIRC. If you set it to American English it might fix it.

I had the problem a lot for a while too.

Nathan Osman

01:18

Yeah, but how are you going to set the locale if half the symbol keys don't work? :P

Here's where I am right now:

RPi Awesomeness

Oooo...where's that?

Nathan Osman

That is the Canadian equivalent of your state capitol building.

RPi Awesomeness

Ah

Nathan Osman

Here's a closer shot:

Kinda creepy...

RPi Awesomeness

o_O

hbdgaf

01:24

O_o

RPi Awesomeness

o_o

hbdgaf

:)

also o/

Chan-Ho Suh

I love visiting Canada

the bad thing about that is coming back through US CBP

Nathan Osman

Despite living about 50 miles from the US border, is been about 10 years since I've been in the US.

IQAndreas

I had question, but I'm not sure if it is too "noobish" for the site.

Since Ubuntu 15.10 is switching to Mir instead of X-Windows, does that mean X11 forwarding over SSH will no longer be possible in 15.10?

RPi Awesomeness

01:29

@IQAndreas It is? Awesomesauce!

hbdgaf

@Chan-HoSuh Never visited Canada, even when I was close to the border. The not knowing if the DUI discretionary turn away would come up kept me from even trying.

IQAndreas

Or am I completely mixing up technologies here?

RPi Awesomeness

@IQAndreas No, that would be perfectly acceptable IMO on here

hbdgaf

@IQAndreas Sounds like a great question, but I don't have the answer.

I can't imagine there won't be an equivalent with Mir, but you would be sign-posting how to do it for people.

Chan-Ho Suh

@hbdgaf that's very interesting

hbdgaf

01:36

@Chan-HoSuh Which one? The Mir thing or the discretionary turn away?

IQAndreas

Okay, thanks, I posted the question:

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Q: Is X11 forwarding over SSH be possible in Ubuntu 15.10?

From what I have heard, Ubuntu 15.10 is planned to include Mir instead of X-Windows for the window system [source] (but I have not yet played with the beta releases, so I can't confirm this). Will X11 window forwarding over SSH still be possible in Ubuntu 15.10? Is there "reverse comparability",...

Chan-Ho Suh

@hbdgaf the latter

hbdgaf

@IQAndreas you got an edit and an upvote

@Chan-HoSuh Yeah, I'm a two time loser on that one. I just don't drive now.

IQAndreas

@hbdgaf You swooped in and fixed those same things I was working on. When I went to edit it said "dbdgaf already made edits to this question". ;)

hbdgaf

I know. You were rapid fire editing right after you posted, but I hammered an edit in.

IQAndreas

01:43

@hbdgaf You just don't notice all the mistakes you left in there until right after having posted the question. :-/

hbdgaf

I've said the same thing about email. There should be a delay for 8 hours, review your own post on gmail application. Just to make you read what you wrote.

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Chan-Ho Suh

it took me a while to get used to the fact that some business people just don't care about typos

or about using aol speak in hugely important emails

hbdgaf

Oh, I'm not referring to typos. I'm referring to "should you really be sending this?"

Chan-Ho Suh

not to make light of the DUI thing, but you are now referring to EUI?

Emailing under the influence?

hbdgaf

Not just under the influence. Sometimes just angry. Sometimes I need a cooldown period to re-read what I wrote and find a way to say it nicely.

Serg

01:50

@terdon So that was dbus thing askubuntu.com/a/685995/295286 I'm surprised though why my grep search didn't show it up, because i did search /usr folder before

hbdgaf

Awww. Someone is trying to close your question @IQAndreas . Don't feel bad. It's a great question, you just got there before it was supported. I like to leave good questions about development releases alone, but not everybody does.

Nathan Osman

And here's what happens at that building I showed you earlier when it gets dark:

IQAndreas

@hbdgaf Ubuntu 15.10 is one week away from being released. Although I'd ordinarily agree with the flag, this exact issue isn't going to change much before the 22nd.

hbdgaf

Exactly, and it's not a bug. It's a question that will still be there in a week.

Seth

02:11

@hbdgaf @IQAndreas we usually get more and more lenient with next release questions as the release date arrives, but not everyone follows it.

Lemme find the meta post and leave a comment.

hbdgaf

@Seth I don't think that even enters in to it, because it's not a FR bug. It's just "How do we do this with that?" It's subtle I know, but I like one and not the other.

Seth

@hbdgaf that's true too.

You have been able to run mir on the desktop for a while now.

hbdgaf

I read it the same way I read a Mir from PPA question, which would be on topic. This is just signposting it for the next person that has the problem.

15.10 auto-flag is just a w mistake on this one I think.

@Seth Good call on the comment. It settles it out without actually getting in to the why.

Serg

02:27

askubuntu.com/a/686088/295286 <- - - How's that looking ?

hbdgaf

other than needing to edit beginnign it looks good.

Serg

@hbdgaf edit how ?

hbdgaf

@Serg "I've removed 'firefox.desktop', part. Also notice the double quotes at the end and the beginnign of the value"

Serg

dafuq is this -> askubuntu.com/q/686087/295286 ??? We're not homework service . . .even though I've basically spend half a day doing a homework for a sudanese lady in xcel and I have no experience with xcel, but that is another story

Ravan

morning @Serg

Serg

03:08

@ravan good meowning

Nathan Osman

03:27

I did this earlier in the day:

Waterfall in 4K

►

Chan-Ho Suh

03:56

@NathanOsman very peaceful

A.B.

04:42

Morning all :)

Serg

@A.b. good meowning

@A.B. @ByteCommander I haz python/perl question. So . . .I know python has couple different versions and syntax is somewhat different in those, or so i heard. Does perl have the same quirk ? Is it possible to write version-neutral code in those ?

A.B.

04:59

@Serg In perl I never noticed that.

Nathan Osman

05:26

Can anyone make sense of this?

github.com/nitroshare/nitroshare-desktop/issues/…

Each of his statements seem to be about a different thing and I can't follow what he's saying.

(Sidenote: why can't there be a way to delete a chat message when mobile?)

Byte Commander

05:43

@Serg I don't know Perl, but you can usually write code that works on both major Python versions. Use Python 3 to develop and when finished, run it with Python 2 and debug the errors. Most of them will be import errors, because many package names changed. If you're not using special packages that are only available for one version without alternatives, your chances to get a working cross-version Python code are good.

(because most of Python3's syntax is downwards-compatible, but not the other way round)

And wherever your code has to be version specific, you have to write an if-clause checking the version tuple's first item and then decide which code part to run. The nice thing in Python is that your code my contain syntactically wrong lines without breaking the program. You just have to ensure they're not reached while it runs..

Oh, and good "meow"ning... ;)

Ahem...!

>.<

Ravan

08:24

@A.B hello

how you identified problem with uGet PPA here

Pilot6

08:49

@Fabby No that one not for me ;-)

A.B.

09:05

@Ravan The OP has added a repository, but the GPG key is not imported.

A.B.

09:21

@Pilot6 @Fabby same here, I'm to lazy =)

Ravan

ok =)

cl-netbox

Good morning ! :)

Byte Commander

Hey.

A.B.

09:39

Hi =)

terdon

10:30

@Serg Ah, makes sense. You probably didn't search correctly somehow. That's what you get when trying to debug before going to sleep :)

Byte Commander

May I advertise my answer here a bit? ;)

hg8

10:48

Hello there

Fabby

11:15

@muru deleted

@ByteCommander good one!

@Pilot6 OK...

@A.B. Too bad...

(upvoted)

Byte Commander

Thanks. Restarting Firefox after update to 41.0.2...

A.B.

=)

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Fabby

@DavidFoerster: enyouy the rep! (just awarded)

Byte Commander

Now once again going to lose virtual money in PokerTH...

Oh, wait!

I just won imaginary 9000$ (start budget 10000).

and 6k of them are already gone again... :P

And I'm out...

JJ lost against AA

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11:37

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RPi Awesomeness

11:57

Kids these days ...

times a-changin'... http://t.co/NXzYWgbtni

Tweeted by freaklabs on October 16, 2015 at 1:29 AM

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fossfreedom

ROFL :D

iamatrain

What do people talk about in this chat?

RPi Awesomeness

Random stuff mainly :P

As evidenced by the image above :)

But otherwise, it's mainly Ubuntu and Ask Ubuntu-related stuffs

BTW @everyone. I've been working on a Websockets chat thingy-doodler. If you want to give it a go & help me test it out, it's available at rpiawesomeness.ddns.net:8080

Plus, it's hosted on my Raspberry Pi 2 :D

o/ @JorgeCastro

Jorge Castro

yo!

RPi Awesomeness

Oooor maybe it's not working? :P

blade19899

12:35

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A: How do I get a Steam Controller working?

This is a workaround answer, the controller will be supported in an update to the Steam package, which is in progress. Recognizing the controller Create a the udev file: sudoedit /lib/udev/rules.d/99-steam-controller-perms.rules then add the following contents: #USB devices SUBSYSTEM=="usb"...

David Foerster

12:52

@ByteCommander You just need to remember to include all the from future import [...].

geekbackpacker

anyone know RPG Game maker?

Byte Commander

@DavidFoerster Hm? I did not need that yet...

@RPiAwesomeness That's the dumbest reaction to a floppy I've ever heard... It makes me sad and amused at the same time. :P

Byte Commander

13:21

I just installed 0 A.D. - now trying it out. It looks very promising! :)

If I don't come back here, you know why! ;)

blade19899

Does anyone know how to compile ^ docky stacks on Ubuntu 14.04?

I have been trying it one way or another, no luck.

blade19899

13:44

@ByteCommander 0 A.D. Alpha 19 coming soon

dgood1

A little lost. I just got chat privileges. What happens here?

Like, am i allowed to ask a question that feels like is doesn't need a question slot?

geekbackpacker

no one answer the question

dgood1

TTwTT

hg8

@dgood1 exactly ;)

user136984

Perhaps someone running the normal Ubuntu and not GNOME could confirm the accuracy of the GUI part of this answer and perhaps provide some better screenshots:

terdon

13:47

@geekbackpacker Probably means that the answer is no.

user136984

0

A: How to check Ubuntu version?

Executing this in Terminal will give you all of the information you could possibly need: lsb_release -a And you can access it in the GUI by going System Settings > Details:

user136984

:)

dgood1

Okay then... I'll post the question then. Later. ^w^

geekbackpacker

anyone know MGI Photo vista?

hg8

@dgood1 whitch question?

Byte Commander

13:52

@blade19899 Cool. It looks like a really interesting game. I just miss a tutorial, but it's pretty similar to Empire Earth, so I guess I can easily find al things out myself - hopefully.

@hg8 Lol, your edit 1 second after mine! ;D

(askubuntu.com/posts/686239/revisions)

hg8

@ByteCommander one second :o

geekbackpacker

lol

Byte Commander

0 A.D. is eating up my disk space... :-/ 6.35GB left

I should resize my partitions soon.

hg8

@ParanoidPanda Your GUI part is exactly the same on Unity ;) +1

Rinzwind

14:12

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A: "Foolproof"-ish Linux for total antigeeks

Linux is not meant to be fool-proof. Heck no operating is meant to be fool-proof. The main fool on any system is the admin; if he is not worth it problems will happen. Besides that: Ubuntu (Linux in general) is not even a geek operating system though the a system is expected to be a user with kn...

Good enough to turn the -3 around? >:)

Byte Commander

dupe-close: askubuntu.com/q/686270/367990

@Rinzwind Nice one. Could be a candidate for the second "reversal" badge ever... :) Maybe. In future. (?)

fossfreedom

horrible opinion based question

Rinzwind

14:32

@fossfreedom dont care. How about the answer? >:-D

fossfreedom

nice riposte

waiting for close vote number 4

hmm - why the chat blue flag?

user136984

If I think that there should be some extra files in a folder in the ~/ area, how can I submit that as a patch? Or do I just have to suggest it?

Rinzwind

dunno. invalidated it :D

@ParanoidPanda why? Like what? Cuz you can create them yourself with the config of xdg :)

user136984

14:46

@Rinzwind: On GNOME there are no template files in the template folder, so I thought about making them and then somehow submitting that. Is there a way of doing that? Or do I just have to suggest it?

user136984

15:02

@Rinzwind: I have found the xdg configuration files in /etc/xdg/, so how do I configure certain files to be in the templates folder by default?

fossfreedom

very very nice ... ubuntu phone just got interesting - thinkonbytes.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/…

Wildcard

Hehe, pitch that headline (less' is more than 'more') to a philosophy major, and you got your whole evening covered.

fossfreedom

if I had to spend an evening with a philosophy major just make sure there are no sharp stuff handy!

blade19899

I love the fact that I can see deleted answers xD

fossfreedom

that looks like GIMP running on a ubuntu phone!

@blade19899 yep - you can now see all the rubbish (trash) we have to erase!

blade19899

15:14

@fossfreedom Yeah, Michael Hall posted something on G+ saying that they will support every Linux application on the Ubuntu Touch. Yaay.

fossfreedom

just dont read the (ex)spam

blade19899

@fossfreedom I know, but, they are funny xD

cl-netbox

@Fabby :)

blade19899

Happy weekend!

Bye

David Foerster

larseidnes.com/2015/10/13/…

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see clickotron.com for practical examples :-D

Wildcard

15:37

Cool @DavidFoerster

user136984

15:50

What would you call an application used to have VMs such as VirtualBox? I just call it VM housing software, but is there a more correct term?

David Foerster

VM runtime environment

Volker Siegel

16:29

@DavidFoerster re: clickotron.com: what's special there? Looks like just any other news site where I close the tab after reading half a centence...

Zacharee1

For some reason I was completely logged out of AU

Byte Commander

16:42

@DavidFoerster Wow. I'm impressed.

> By getting the RNN to complete our sentences, we can effectively ask questions of the model. Ilya Sutskever and Geoff Hinton trained a character level RNN on Wikipedia, and asked it to complete the phrase “The meaning of life is”. The RNN essentially answered “human reproduction”. It’s funny that you can get an RNN to read Wikipedia for a month, and have it essentially tell you that meaning of life is to have sex. It’s probably also a correct answer from a biological perspective.

> Life Is About… An Eating Story

^ xD

user136984

@ByteCommander: RNN?

Byte Commander

2 hours ago, by David Foerster

http://larseidnes.com/2015/10/13/auto-generating-clickbait-with-recurrent-neural‌-networks/

Read ^ article.

Recurrent Neural Networks

David Foerster

17:10

@VolkerSiegel It's not so special from a (news) consumer's point of view, but very interesting for research in artificial intelligence. This is, what the researcher has built in a few months and with limited resources. It's just the beginning.

Or was that sarcasm, since the quality of actual click bait articles is just as abysmal?^^

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 If you had my phone, you could say that... :P

Zacharee1

17:26

:| @ByteCommander

user136984

17:39

user136984

I hope that this doesn't mark the beginning of another spam wave...

user136984

17:54

Where should I report the fact that the shadow/dimming effect of a window does not always go when it is closed? I am on Ubuntu GNOME. I that xorg or something else?

fossfreedom

@ParanoidPanda that is most likely the window manager - mutter - that is causing that.

Fabby

18:12

@cl-netbox :)

Byte Commander

G'night...

Nathan Osman

Why has MTP stopped working in Android 6...

Oh nvm. I fixed it.

A.B.

@ByteCommander Godd night?

@Kos what is gio in your answer here askubuntu.com/a/686367/367165

=)

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18:32

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Q: Raspberry Pi OctoPrint server forwarding to Ubuntu VPS

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Fabby

18:47

@A.B. Godd night?

@HeatherBrown o/

user139252

@Fabby \o

A.B.

@Fabby a typo :)

@HeatherBrown \o/

Thomas W.

i hate not having a high paycheck

$270 every two weeks is not enough to get by on :/

still can't get the hard disk i need

bleh

anyways, sup everyone

Fabby

@A.B. I thought you turned into a religious extremist overnight! :D

Thomas W.

@Fabby Stranger things have happened

Fabby

19:00

@ThomasW. If you want I can DBAN my Pr0n drive, wrap it and send it to you (I still got a 512G drive lying around that I don't use...) Not the 2TB you're looking for, but better then nothing...

Thomas W.

better than nothing, yeah, but the min space I need is 750GB just for my *nix partition

because VMs

and code and other things

:/

the evil thing is, of course, I put up a gofundme campaign :/

Nathan Osman

So I came across this yesterday:

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman THIS IS A SIGN OF THE END

Nathan Osman

Not sure what to make of it.

Thomas W.

Grab your significant other and run to the Doomsday Bunkers

Fabby

19:01

@NathanOsman :D

@ThomasW. Yeah, well, I can't send you my 1TB drive... It's running on its last legs and I'll have to upgrade it next year...

Thomas W.

@Fabby hence the gofundme campaign. I don't want to post it here, I fear godly retribution :/

Fabby

@ThomasW. From whom?

You're allowed to post anything as it's related to Ubuntu!

Will you be using the HD for Ubuntu???

YES!

So: post!

(or post it in your profile)

Thomas W.

i'mma put it in my profile :P

'tis on my AU profile now :/

Fabby

"their laptop"??? Royal plural, your majesty?

Thomas W.

also here if anyone really cares, and I don't really expect anyone to.

Fabby

19:06

"The picutred"

Thomas W.

@Fabby editing now

i know

fixed

kos

@A.B. It was Thursday in my current locale, I've fixed it

@A.B. I didn't review your answer because I was in a hurry. I'm doing it now ;)

Fabby

@ThomasW. Ouch!

Thomas W.

i was already working on fixing them, @Fabby :P

urgh i hate having no real income

Fabby

Same here...

kos

19:17

@A.B. However you were smarter than me in using %H:%M:%S, I thought setting the locale and using %T was the only way :|. Side note: you don't need {4,4}, just {4}

Fabby

odd jobs left and right...

I need to start packing to leave...

C U all!

Thomas W.

Vote to close this as End of Life: askubuntu.com/questions/686378/lubuntu-pptp-client-issue

kos

@Fabby o/

Thomas W.

Saucy is the release from the errors

kos

@A.B. However my answer there is better >:)

A.B.

19:22

@kos :P ;)

@Fabby no :)

cl-netbox

goodbye everybody - see you next time ... :)

A.B.

@cl-netbox cu my friend :)

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Q: tcp client server program debugging linux

i am getting segmentation fault when i am trying reunion of my TCP client and server program. could someone help me in debugging it?

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cl-netbox

@A.B. have a nice evening ! :)

user136984

19:46

They really need to end Flash...

Nathan Osman

So that's why I got a Flash update today.

user136984

Big companies like Google and the BBC are now moving away from Flash though so you won't be needing it much longer...

Nathan Osman

I moved away from it in 2010 :P

user136984

Actually Shumway does the trick with most things.

Nathan Osman

No wait - I think I used it for a clock in 2011.

Anyway, haven't used it after that.

<canvas> does pretty much everything now.

The only thing I can think of that HTML5 still can't do across all browsers yet is copy text to the clipboard.

user136984

19:58

I thought you said you "got a Flash update today"...? How can you get one without it being installed?

Nathan Osman

It's installed, I meant that I don't use it on any of my websites.

user136984

Why not just uninstall it then?

user136984

Can't it still run non-browser Flash content on your machine? And isn't that bad because of all the vulnerabilities in Flash?

user136984

@NathanOsman: Do you use Firefox by the way? :)

Nathan Osman

@ParanoidPanda Nope, Opera.

I was using Firefox for a while, switched to Chrome for performance reasons, and then switched to Opera for stability reasons.

user136984

20:11

So you wouldn't have any idea about this then?

user136984

Because it says:

user136984

> allowing a malicious page to access private data from other origins

Nathan Osman

I can't read the bugs. They're private.

user136984

What other origins?

Nathan Osman

So I can't say much about the issue.

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20:15

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Q: ubuntu 15.04 problem with typing password to decrypt the disk

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user136984

20:38

Goodnight! :)

hbdgaf

Question @NathanOsman if you've got a sec.

Nathan Osman

20:52

Fire away.

hbdgaf

What would you think if the fisticuffs server could only run one game at a time to break out "multiple game management" to some sort of game broker?

Oh, and if I didn't tell you already, there's some hilarious going on with the original... stop me if I told you already.

Nathan Osman

You didn't tell me.

Or if you mentioned it, I wasn't here.

hbdgaf

After the threatening and "It's all already patented and trademarked", he had to change the name of the game, because someone already had "Skirmish"

Nathan Osman

LOL.

That is genuinely funny.

hbdgaf

I laughed for a good 20 minutes on that one.

Back to the previous question. It would get it multiplayer faster by leaving out the multiple sessions management part and cutting right to the chase.

Nathan Osman

21:00

You could do that.

Do you mean that it has to be restarted for each game?

Or that each server can only host one game at a time?

hbdgaf

That each process would only host a game at a time. Then if a broker were implemented, it would just spin up processes for each game - instead of trying to think about them all at once.

You wouldn't have to restart the process though, as it would forcibly disconnect the two players at the end of each game, then the next two are first come first served.

Nathan Osman

That sounds logical.

hbdgaf

It's me trying to break out the logic for "more than one game at a time" and "get it working", but I don't want to keep rewriting things, because I want to add a feature. So, I'm trying to get ahead of it.

Nathan Osman

Right. I'm not aware of many games that can host more than one at a time anyway...

FreeCiv, 0 A.D., etc.

They only do one at a time.

hbdgaf

Yeah. This one is so simple though. Hardware should be able to run a ton of games this simple.

It's not like Freeciv/0 A.D where if you played it in some realtime instead of turn based mode, the number of events would crush your hardware.

Nathan Osman

21:24

True.

hbdgaf

Anyway, just confirming design decisions. Thanks for your time.

Nathan Osman

No problem.

Thomas W.

21:43

o/

David Foerster

22:05

Why was askubuntu.com/review/reopen/479896 closed as off topic?

Seems perfectly on topic to me

to ask for client software running on Ubuntu for a particular service.

Nathan Osman

@ThomasW. somebody is advocating for you on G+.

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Q: Postfix is not releasing email

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Mateo

22:49

woo, steam controller is here!

Volker Siegel

@DavidFoerster Oh, it was sarcasm indeed - but not so far from something that could have happened. I'm impresssed by the algorithm too... They should start to collect VC money, the output will soon be better than an average news site! ...oh, wait, don't they use the same sind of software ;)

Nathan Osman

@Mateo Woo!

And something arrived today for me too - my Yubikey.

David Foerster

@VolkerSiegel Did you read the concluding paragraph? :-D

“In total, this gives us an infinite source of useless journalism, available at no cost. If I remember correctly from economics class, this should drive the market value of useless journalism down to zero, forcing other producers of useless journalism to produce something else.”

Nathan Osman

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