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19:00
What version of Ubuntu are you using?
gddrescue should be the right package for mine...
14.04.3
yup... that's mine too...
huh
Does that mean that your hunch might be wrong?
No...
apt-cache policy gddrescue
what does that give as output?
N: Unable to locate package gddrescue
19:03
(you're running in "try ubuntu" mode, right?
are you connected to the Internet on that machine?
I believe so..I selected "try Ubuntu" and it took me to a new ubuntu desktop
Yes I am
@JeffCaros good!
apt-cache policy sudo
OK, rice ready...
CU in 3 minutes.
@A.B.: can you take over WTF is hoing on with this try ubuntu?
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache policy sudo
sudo:
Installed: 1.8.9p5-1ubuntu1.1
Candidate: 1.8.9p5-1ubuntu1.1
Version table:
*** 1.8.9p5-1ubuntu1.1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
1.8.9p5-1ubuntu1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
Bon apetit!
@Fabby @JeffCaros sudo apt-add-repository universe
gddrescue is in the universe repository
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repository universe
'universe' distribution component enabled for all sources.
Now should I run "sudo apt-get install gddrescue" again?
19:11
No
First `sudo apt-get update `
Rule #1 of cooking: Don't leave the kitchen!
:)
@Fabby uh oh
@A.B. I never noticed try Ubuntu was on archive....
(lmakes sense though)
kos
kos
@Fabby :D What did you burn?
19:12
@kos nothing... I was just in time!
OK, serving food for 3 minutes
@JeffCaros after the sudo apt-get update finishes,
do the sudo apt-get install gddrescue again...
sorry guys my computer's kinda slow
BRB
But I have currently no idea why a Live system boots into initramf
kos
kos
@Fabby :D I feel you. "I'll just fiddle 5 minutes on the notebook while it's baking.". 15 minutes later: start over cooking the whole dinner again.
@Fabby @A.B. Okay "sudo apt-get install gddrescue" seems to have executed normally, but the second command doesn't seem to work:
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ddrescue --binary-prefixes --cluster-size=64 --sparse --timeout=20s /dev/WdX /dev/YdZ
ddrescue: Can't open input file: No such file or directory
19:18
@kos Indeed!
Replace the devices with your devices WdX and YdZ
@JeffCaros You need to substitute W, X Y and Z with your real devices
do a:
ls /dev/?d?
and provide the output...
How much do you know about Ubuntu?
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/?d?
/dev/sda /dev/sdb
Not very much i suppose..
@JeffCaros OK... So you've got 2 hard drives?
@JeffCaros (yes/no?)
@Fabby sudo lsblk
19:20
@Fabby @kos I've already managed to ruin a pot by being here instead of watching the rice for a few too many minutes...
@A.B. yeah, we don't want do copy the backup over the original...
@A.B. No need for sudo, I thought. Or is there?
I mean...I didn't think so..
@JeffCaros execute: lsblk
I believe your right @ByteCommander
19:22
Oh but I did plug in the external hard drive per your instructions, so that's probably the second one.
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk
└─sda1 8:1 0 465.7G 0 part /media/ubuntu/TOSHIBA EXT
sdb 8:16 0 465.8G 0 disk
├─sdb1 8:17 0 512M 0 part
├─sdb2 8:18 0 461.4G 0 part
└─sdb3 8:19 0 3.9G 0 part
sr0 11:0 1 1006M 0 rom /cdrom
loop0 7:0 0 962.1M 1 loop /rofs
@JeffCaros and provide the output of that command
kos
kos
@ByteCommander Lol. I feel you. Yesterday I burned a pizza doing the same thing
@JeffCaros good we did that!
sda is the external one...
now type:
mount
and provide the output
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount
/cow on / type overlay (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
/dev/sr0 on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop0 on /rofs type squashfs (ro,noatime)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
(reading)
type:
umount /dev/sda1
19:24
haha, I just got @A.B. confused with a user named 'A.P.'. For a minute I couldn't figure out why his gravatar was pink xD
2
@JeffCaros and say so when you did
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ umount /dev/sda1
umount: /dev/sda1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
@Seth great, me and pink :)
@JeffCaros sudo umount /dev/sda1
Okay I think it worked
19:26
Reviewing is fun :D
@A.B. :D
@A.B. Seth is trying to say you're gay! :D
ahem -.-
@JeffCaros now type the following command after @A.B. has verified I didn't make any mistake:
LOL
19:27
sudo ddrescue --binary-prefixes --cluster-size=64 --sparse --timeout=20s /dev/sdb /dev/sda
kos
kos
If I had a pink avatar I surely would have changed it right away, not because it's not masculine, but because I really can't stand the color
sdb is input sda is output. I agree
@JeffCaros run, puppy! run!
OK, that'll take a while: time to eat!
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ddrescue --binary-prefixes --cluster-size=64 --sparse --timeout=20s /dev/sdb /dev/sda
ddrescue: Output file exists and is not a regular file.
ddrescue: Use '--force' if you really want to overwrite it, but be
aware that all existing data in the output file will be lost.
Try 'ddrescue --help' for more information.
ah, yes!
add --force to the end of the command.
(gddrescue has built-in safetey)
19:29
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ddrescue --binary-prefixes --cluster-size=64 --sparse --timeout=20s /dev/sdb /dev/sda --force
ddrescue: Output file exists and is not a regular file.
ddrescue: Only regular files can be sparse.
Try 'ddrescue --help' for more information.
@kos I did not only ruin the rice, but even the pot floor was blown up afterwards... >.<
(to prevent you from overwriting the entire hard disk)
@JeffCaros remove the --sparse
(it will take even longer)
Alright there we go
Force at the end?
@Fabby You and your dirty mind... :P ;)
19:30
running now?
I appreciate all the help guys!
wait..
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ddrescue --binary-prefixes --cluster-size=64 --timeout=20s /dev/sdb /dev/sda --force


GNU ddrescue 1.17
Press Ctrl-C to interrupt
rescued: 0 B, errsize: 465 GiB, current rate: 0 B/s
ipos: 418867 KiB, errors: 1, average rate: 0 B/s
opos: 418867 KiB, time since last successful read: 22 s
Splitting failed blocks...
Timeout expired
kos
kos
@ByteCommander Indeed! Did you manage to save some rice at least?
@JeffCaros thinking
ok, do a:
sudo apt-get install smartmontools
and say when done
Installed
@ByteCommander A dirty mind is a joy forever! :-)
@JeffCaros smartctl --test=short /dev/sdb
19:33
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ smartctl --test=short /dev/sdb
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.19.0-25-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Smartctl open device: /dev/sdb failed: Permission denied
@kos No. The smoke already found its way from the pot floor upwards, so the rice was full of dark brown "channels"... It looked funny though. And the pot floor was pushed out a few centimetres, so it spun around on the cooker...
@JeffCaros sudo smartctl --test=short /dev/sdb
@Fabby sudoooooooo :)
@ByteCommander :D :D :D
Wow!
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo smartctl --test=short /dev/sdb
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.19.0-25-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Short Background Self Test has begun
Use smartctl -X to abort test
19:34
@ByteCommander Looks more like a scene from a movie!
@JeffCaros wait for about 2 minutes...
I'm going to have a smoke! BRB!
Anybody has an effective "household weapon" against those evil small fruit flies?
kos
kos
@ByteCommander :D Well, that's unfortunate.
They're invading our kitchen and eating our pears and plums!
@ByteCommander: fruit vinaigre
put out a shallow plate covered in it
And hunting each of them with the vacuum cleaner is not as effective as it is looking weird to outsiders... :P
19:37
deep enough for them to drown and get stuck
@DavidFoerster You mean vinegar?
@ByteCommander Water, apple cider vinegar, dishwashing liquid, stir.
yes. sorry, my french is coming through.
But that would smell really bad for days...
We use apple cider vinegar, works well.
Doesn't smell unless you are directly over the dish.
19:38
if you only have non-sweet types of vinegar (e. g. vinegar essence), sweeten it a little with dissolved sugar or fruit huice.
*juice
Hmm... I'll try. Thanks for the hint.
kos
kos
@ByteCommander For mosquitos the same works using sugar in water instead
but we add a couple drops of dish soap to our vinegar to make it more potent.
:)
@ByteCommander: I agree with @Seth on the (lack of) smell.
kos
kos
19:39
Maybe they'll also be attracted to it, since it's sweet
vacuum cleaner is the most fun though :P
@ByteCommander DDT!
@kos Nah, we don't have them. I'm far less tasty than my fresh fruits! ;)
@Fabby: Thankfully outlawed in most countries except for very severe epedemics.
@DavidFoerster I thought you were German!
19:40
@Fabby Erm... No!?! o.O
*epidemics
My receipt is a German receipt and therefore only for German fruit flies
:)
@Fabby: I am, but I went to a french school and that affects my orthography of words with french origin in english.
Ah!
@JeffCaros should be finished by now...
can you do a:
sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdb
and provide the output to: paste.ubuntu.com
and provide the link back here?
(too much output to put in the chat)
kos
kos
19:42
Oh, a question I've never seen been asked: askubuntu.com/questions/685847/wifi-not-showing
Omg, a really new question o_O
@A.B. and a useless answer!
(downvoted)
Reading
No votes left :(
@JeffCaros Looks bad!
I need to read the manual...
BRB
do a: sudo smartctl --all --tolerance=verypermissive /dev/sdb
and again: paste the output and provide the link back!
(doesn't look good)
I'm very sorry to have to tell you, but your disk is dead...
Do you have a back-up?
well shit
I did back up most of my data
Would it be possible to reinstall Ubuntu using my external hard drive?
@JeffCaros Yes...
but the better thing to do is:
download the service manual of your machine,
@JeffCaros: Depending on the value of the data on it, you may want to hire a professional data recovery lab. They can recover data on pretty much every disk that died from wear or an internal error.
unscrew the existing HDD
insert the new drive
put the kaput drive into the USB enclosure
and drop by again in the chat...
19:51
Yes a SSD
maybe (very maybe)
you can recover something more...
A kaputtes drive?
Are you sure my new drive would fit?
Huh? That disk shows up as 600 PetaByte?
o.O
@JeffCaros it should...
19:52
It's a usb-connected thing.
@JeffCaros yeah, take that apart too!
@ByteCommander you can format it to show whatever you want..
so take both laptop and USB enclosure apart and swap the drives...
someone was selling 512GB microSD cards on Amazon that were really just 32GB formatted to look like 512.
19:53
Huh okay.
@Seth really?
@Fabby really.
And then just boot up normally with my liveDVD?
@JeffCaros I'm sorry....
@Seth Bigger than it actually is? So what happens then if the data grows larger than the physical size? --> /dev/null?
19:53
@Seth: I think that was a manipulated firmware, not filesystem formatting.
user139252
@Fabby Really really.
@JeffCaros yup...
and then install on the new HDD
Alright I'll give that a shot.
(and only after installation insert the bad one)
@JeffCaros I'm sorry but that's the best I can do...
I'l update your question and my answer...
@HeatherBrown o/ :)
19:54
(afterwards, plase accept!)
user139252
@A.B. \o
So I might be able to transfer files from the old HDD by inserting it into the usb enclosure?
kos
kos
@Seth What was the point of formatting them? Hoping that the buyers wouldn't have exceeded 32GB?
user139252
@JeffCaros Yes.
@JeffCaros extremely unlikely, but maybe!
19:55
I'll take it
@Fabby @A.B. Thanks again for all your help!
@DavidFoerster Just going on what the reviewers were saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@JeffCaros :)
although I have accidentally formatted my 4GB drive as a 1GB before.
(or less, forgot the exact amount)
@JeffCaros very likely yes
@kos by the time you buy it the seller is probably long gone..
19:56
@Seth some of the formatting methods should have an extra warning :P would save a lot of people a lot of problems
like my Dad always said "tail light warranty, once their tail lights are out of sight so is your warranty".
or just plain refuse to execute them.. want to use fat32 on a hdd? go use another tool than ours :D
kos
kos
Yeah, taking time basically.
@Rinzwind indeed xD
@Rinzwind I have a fat32 HDD >.>
@ByteCommander pretty much.
@Seth eek :D
19:58
the worst of it is, it's the backup HDD so to re-format it I have to find a place for all that data..
@Seth great :)
@Seth: if it's a backup, can't you take the risk of having no backup for half a day? that should be enough to reformat and create a new backup on the reformatted drive.
that's what i do, when i need to reformat my backup media.
I need more than 24 hours to backup all my data :(
@DavidFoerster first I have to find a place to put >700GB of data.. There isn't another HDD in the house big enough.
20:01
huh? how slow is the transfer then? FAT32 doesn't fit terabytes of data after all.
@JeffCaros You're welcome! Don't forget to accept the answer! :P
@A.B. You either have a sh!tload of data or a damn slow backup medium... o.O
@DavidFoerster believe it or not it does here... I was shocked when I found out how it was formatted too.
@A.B. sorry, I got confused between you and @Seth.
@Seth never heard that one!
20:01
Only 1TB but my NAS is a little bit slow
@Seth :D :D :D
@DavidFoerster No!
@DavidFoerster I'm the running man :)
OK, time to eat!!!
same!
Time to smoke
20:03
Rice with Madras herbs and tuna with tomatoes from the neighbour's garden!
@Fabby You're a bit late, aren't you?
@A.B. addict!
did you have to make me jealous @Fabby? -.-
Or did you move your time zone again?
kos
kos
Bon appetit
20:04
@Fabby I had sushi today :=) 3 rounds
> from the neighbour's garden!
o.O
@Rinzwind no, stupid :)
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Q: Step by step instruction for installing Illustrator in Ubuntu 14.04

Freddyi am totally new on Ubuntu and want to install the Illustrator on my laptop so any one can guide me step by step how to do it.

dubious answer(?)
@ByteCommander yeah, someone's hard drive failed...
@Seth huh? me no comprendo, señor!
(what are you talking about?)
@kos Grazie!
@Rinzwind Nice too! Here, the tuna is cooked!
@Fabby every week thursday is sushi day :=D
20:10
@ByteCommander not stolen! Received from him!
@ByteCommander here's a picture of the stuff I made last from the tomatoes from his garden:
The guy is amazing!
He's been breeding tomatoes for 15 years and tries to breed a prehistoric tomato!
aka "back-breeding" in my native language...
Oh.
Sounds cool.
@Rinzwind one day, we're going to find out the real you with all the crumbs of information we've gathered over the years...
@ByteCommander the red stuff in the lower right ccorner is raw beef...
(of the picture)
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Q: How to get information about which display server is running?

user137124I'm using Ubuntu 15.10 and i want to know which display server is running. In first version of Ubuntu it is definitely X server, but recently i got updated my Ubuntu 15.10 and i came to know that some Mir Server packages are going to be installed so how will i know that either Mir is running or X...

I know, you've told that already some days ago...
@ByteCommander ah!
20:14
Not that I would like that though.
If meat, then well done. I'm now friend of raw stuff.
@ByteCommander meh... I'll try everything at least once!
Anyway, have to go.
Maybe hunting some more fruit flies...
Seeya!
Chuss
@ByteCommander :D :D :D
I'mm off to the review queue!
Rode on that this morning.
@NathanOsman If you didn't steer or commandeer it, I'm not interested!
:D :D :D
@A.B. : good catch about the Windows commit! (VTC)
@NathanOsman so next time: put on your pirate's hat and commandeer the damn thing! ;-)
20:27
It's pretty nice actually.
170 more rep needed and I too can VTC! =)
o/ @NathanOsman
@Fabby lets just say what you ate for lunch is much better than what I had to eat ;p
Cotto Salami and american cheese on white. Yeah, could have been better.
@Fabby I hate backslashes in path names :)
20:41
I'm walking from hotspot to hotspot.
So I come and go :)
user136984
Goodnight! :)
@ParanoidPanda Have a great night!
Excel is nice but gittdamn it's confusing
isnt this new ubuntu installer a mess? no easy way to install a manually configured encrypted lvm, i finally realised, you can use the ubuntu-server-cd and install the desktop you like
new installer? afaict it hasn't changed since natty..
20:58
ok, not new.. i am so slow, it seems new... i mean i was using the alternate installer until it was not there anymore. and i missed it so much :) but the ubuntu server installer seems to be the same
@Seth And it was something quick, made in about 15 minutes... (tinned tuna, what you call canned tuna)
@A.B. :D
21:13
@Fabby did you use anything to help mix the tuna with the rice or did it go straight from the can/tin into the rice?
Fry onions, in olive oil from can
add tomatoes
add madras curry
add coconut milk
add rubbish tuna (see next line)
mix well
nicely drape the nice pieces on top
boil rice with some madras curry as well
serve both next to each other on plate...
Done!
nice!
Easy!
The only fresh stuff was the tomatoes... Everything else was from cans...
Thank you McDonald's for free WiFi.
@NathanOsman And 24 hour breakfast! :P
21:29
@Fabby I'm trying to remap key in terminal. There's a question asking to remap ^W behavior (which is delete a word shortcut) to ^+Backspace. Now, stty -a tells me werase = ^W and ` erase = ^?` so ^? is Backspace, but if I do stty werase ^-^? it messes up enter key and does not work
that's because backspace is really [ctrl][H] so you cannot
you can't do a [ctrl][ctrl][h]
(AFAIK!)
this goes back about 20 years when you had to redefine this every time you opened a terminal on a *nix system you never worked on yet...
to make BS to be BS and Del Del...
21:49
Ah, the fun of incorrectly identified keyboards.
I plugged a USB keyboard into my Pi once and couldn't enter the pipe character.
For the mods: Is this appropriate enough or should I add more smileys?
22:19
@Pilot6: one for you? (CC:@A.B.)
@Chili555 ----^
22:56
hi...
I like tacos
23:14
Now I'm hungry!
me too!
And tacos do sound really good right now. :P
23:27
This is duplicated of this one
@Terrance not really
@Zacharee1 Well, OK. I have seen before them tagging duplicates of questions when both are dealing with the same application, and in this case openjdk7.
Well they're a bit different
I VTC them as too broad and duplicate respectively.
@DavidFoerster Good point. :)
23:36
One is dealing with having too many versions of JDK and the other is how to make OpenJDK work with Minecraft.
sorry for taking so long to write that

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