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18:00
It's bad enough that I have to add OAuth to Stack.PHP.
@StefanoPalazzo ah right
so really it's a stackexchange lens
with an AU scope
a scifi scope, etc.
yes,
the way the old one works, it assumes ask ubuntu by default, and you can override it. in the back-end, it's fairly agnostic
@GeorgeEdison heh, I don't even want to think about OAuth ;-)
@StefanoPalazzo is the OID stuff for the lens?
luckily no
is there anything I can help you with for the lens?
/me feels like a crack addict without crack
18:15
Has anyone started a Google+ Lens yet?
well, a G+ lens would actually be a scope of the gwibber lens
which should really be renamed "social lens" or something
And I'm back
Firefox 7 is out?
18:30
seems so... who lots their mind over their and decided to have a new major release every 6 weeks?
lost even
Private cloud ACTIVATE!
I like it releasing faster
I don't have to wait a year to get a better browser
@JorgeCastro if there is, I'll defenitely let you know. but from what I gathered it should be quite straightforward
19:10
Bounty offered: HDMI port not recognized on Sony Vaio http://askubuntu.com/questions/29557/hdmi-port-not-recognized-on-sony-vaio #nvidia
19:26
Is there any way to prevent 'Thumbs.db' from being generated in a particular folder on Windows?
...it's wreaking havoc with Bazaar.
jrg
jrg
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Q: Is there a way to prevent Thumbs.db from being created, on the SERVER side?

I have some scripts running on files located on a shared drive on a Win2003 Server. I need to look at the images on any number of PC's in our network.. so every time I browse these folders, the clients create thumbs.db, which interferes with our scripts which move and delete folders, but usually...

@GeorgeEdison I can't recall how to do it - but I believe so
has anyone here got a Yahoo ID?
I want to make yahoo as openid work, but I don't want to register with them :\
19:40
Yes, I have one from many years ago from GeoCities.
I have one.
@StefanoPalazzo I've got one too
ah, brilliant
I use mine to log into Stack Exchange.
Flickr :)
jrg
jrg
19:40
I've got one, not sure I know the password though.
@GeorgeEdison Really? Do people really use Yahoo as their primary ID? :-P
if you get a bunch of data (not "login failed"), I'm good
jrg
jrg
works.
fantastic
success
jrg
jrg
Don't paste it, it has (maybe) sensitive openid data stuff in there.
It does?
I didn't see any.
Just email address and the Identifier. nothing too sensitive
19:43
AFK.
jrg
jrg
Ok, guess my openID understanding is flawed.
that's a huge tick on the PythonFu todo list
Oooh.
That's good.
Are we going to see a preview release soon?
I don't know about soon :-)
maybe if I stop re-designing it, I should have something working next month. I also have a bunch of other projects.
and I desperately need to get going on the AU lens
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20:01
Maybe I can help with the lens.
@StefanoPalazzo I feel like Jorge Castro is lurking in the chat, sitting in his chair going
indeed :D
indeed
I am for "let's get it out there"
/me points at calendar.
but yes, get George up in this
Can you give me the link to the branch?
20:04
yes, @George I'd be more than happy to work with you on this
streaming video from oneiric is no fun, if it goes down for standby every 30 minutes -.-
K.
I can at least check out the branch.
I posted on the appdev list on how updates will work
because it seems the USC stuff isn't as awesome as I'd hoped
20:09
@StefanoPalazzo For the Sites list, since it's ever changing - wouldn't it be easier to fetch a site list from the global api and build a referenced based on the sites name from the first . to it's full site domain?
I seem to remember there was a reason why I didn't do that
Those lens examples look pretty straight forward/simple enough :)
Now I need something to write a lens for...
Got the code.
jrg
jrg
20:11
Talk about ancient: wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses/… - that's the 10.10 launcher... O_o
yeah he's not done with the images
I pinged him today, they should be done
it's like final freeze today so everyone is slammed
@MarcoCeppi I think it had something to do with the internet connection not being available when you log in
I could have just fetched it after the first query though, huh.
@StefanoPalazzo mm, I can bake some regex for it if you want
yep, there it went: 39. By Stefano Palazzo on 2011-04-18: Removed the initial setup, for now. Hopefully fixes #758839
Jin
Jin
hi
20:15
bazaar.launchpad.net/~stefano-palazzo/askubuntu-lens/trunk/… there's the code @MarcoCeppi, it's actually just a simple api call
Jin
Jin
fyi we have sent out Ask Ubuntu swag package and the moderator cards.
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Jin
Jin
international shipping from the U.S. may take a bit longer.
@Jin s/Nintendo 64/Ubuntu Swag/gi in the following video
Jin
Jin
20:16
@MarcoCeppi youtube is down.
I noticed, what's up with that? (Thought it was just me).
Here is a recap of that video:
Jin
Jin
@MarcoCeppi you broke it
> OOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGG UBUNNNTTUUUUUUUUUU SWAAGGGGG??!?!?! Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!
YouTube's up for me.
Jin
Jin
@MarcoCeppi oh btw, you 'n your gf need to go to yelp.com/biz/toki-underground-washington
20:18
Lol... I accidentally typed in 'yotube.com'...
Jin
Jin
i wish i still lived in DC area just for the food
fantastic, swag \o/
@Jin Looks great, we were actually planning on heading into China town this weekend - this will be a great dinner stop
Jin
Jin
@MarcoCeppi NE DC is so hipster
Why does Google let people use the domain 'yotube.com'...? And further, why do they let them misuse their logo?
20:19
You can always move back we have Bojangles now
Jin
Jin
@MarcoCeppi oh puleezeee. real Bojo's are in Da South
Yeah, all the real fried chicken places are. But where will you get Peruvian Chicken from now? Peru?!
@Jin My office is over by Georgetown.
@Jacob: You have an office?
@GeorgeEdison The company I work for does, I get a cube there does that work?
20:22
@GeorgeEdison isn't there some regulations against buying typo-domains?
@StefanoPalazzo I believe so in the US.
Jin
Jin
@Jacob Georgetown is nice.
but then, they do own gogle.com and gooogle.com
@StefanoPalazzo To an extent, but it's really hard to win a case like that.
@Jacob That's cool.
Jin
Jin
20:23
@MarcoCeppi I won't be missing DC Winter though... so cold and windy
It obviously isn't the case in Nigeria :P
yotube.com is managed by "Whois Privacy Services Pty Ltd" :)
it's even localised. though the german translation isn't very good
It's just... bad.
jrg
jrg
SWEET. SWAG SWAG SWAAGGGGGGGG.
*starts counting down the days until it shows up at his doorstep*
lol... I just scrapped a whole post on Firefox and how Mozilla needs to get serious :)
Firefox 10 is looking a bit better than the previous nonsense :)
20:29
10 !!?!11!
I thought 7 just came out.
@GeorgeEdison 10 is bleeding edge
10 is fast too :)
@GeorgeEdison don't worry, the future is kinda fun! We finally have flying cars!
We... do...?
well I do...
jrg
jrg
Well you're not human.
<_>
20:31
@MarcoCeppi Shouldn't 8 be beta and 9 bleeding edge?
You will have to wait a while...
@GeorgeEdison 7==released, 8==beta, 9==a2, 10==a1 (nightly)
@GeorgeEdison Beta, alpha, edge maybe? I don't have time to keep track of this crap. Whatever update manager gives me I'm find with
Yeah... I think we should just drop version numbers.
I wonder if Britney Spears will still be Queen of England when 11 comes out :)
@GeorgeEdison if they get as crazy as firefox's, yeah definitely
20:34
user image
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looks like they are having fun breaking ubuntu really hard before release :D
@MarcoCeppi: Here we go:
user image
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I'm slightly surprised no one asked me any more about the future... like whether 12.10 (Quaking Quetzalcoatlus) will use Wayland (it won't).
@RolandTaylor Well, you just answered everyone's #1 question :) No need to ask anymore :D
@Explorer hey :D
@MarcoCeppi hehe
@GeorgeEdison what is that?
20:37
@Jacob Chrome 25
@RolandTaylor :D
The plutonian colonies love it :D
@Explorer how r ya? :D
fine 'n you?
full (of food)
:P
And hot for some reason :S
20:40
it's not you . it's food :D
loool
awww thanks :D <3
jrg rolls eyes
jrg? what is it
jrg, Cleveland, OH
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I am almost sure he rolled his eyes (twice by now) :D
This is not good...
The Ubuntu LiveCD comes with a tool to install Ubuntu to a USB stick.
...but it won't load the ISO file I have.
20:51
@StefanoPalazzo sorry for the ARB generally sucking
2 weeks till final release :3
@ajmitch it's ok, the lens isn't ready anyway
@ajmitch @Jorge how is the new site working out, anyway?
in case you know and are allowed to talk about it :-)
@RolandTaylor two weeks? they won't squash all open bugs by then!!!!!! :D
apparantly we've got more submissions to the ARB in the last week than in the previous year
20:55
@StefanoPalazzo apps are coming in
@htorque SRU0 <3
20 ish or something?
@ajmitch what's the list?
I just realized that I (obviously) can't work on the lens while using Windows.
errr, they're all bug reports right?
20:55
@MarcoCeppi is that something like windows service pack 2? :P
That's why I'm trying to get Ubuntu on my USB stick.
@JorgeCastro not sure, I don't have access to much of it yet
jrg
jrg
@htorque Must. Resist. Urge. To. Update. :D
or are these not public?
a few have been forwarded as bug reports, but not all
20:56
oh, I wonder if that's automated or not
nope
allison is doing a bit of copy-paste at the moment to LP :)
ah, looks like allison is just c&p
still, it's fantastic that there's now a place with all the information
and, from the looks of it, a working system for cashing in on your code, both the developers and ubuntu :)
jrg
jrg
@RolandTaylor @Explorer wait, what? :P
unfortunately some don't even have debian source packages
yeah I'd like to see more of the ARB side of the new site, but I guess we have to wait for it to be done :)
maybe we'll find out more in the next month or so
20:58
@jrg :>
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13 secs ago, by Roland Taylor
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<small>how I loath packaging</small>
@StefanoPalazzo sorry :)
anyone using (almost) up-to-date oneiric: are your show desktop icons (first item in alt-tab in unity) simple white rectangles?
jrg
jrg
21:00
@htorque Wait, yes.
@StefanoPalazzo we'll try & make it easier, honest
that would be amazing
@MarcoCeppi ya ya ya - i know. :P let's make this a question! "i have a bug and a comment said it will be fixed in a sru - what is a sru?" ;-)
@jrg good - or not :P
@StefanoPalazzo what parts do you find annoying or hard?
@StefanoPalazzo you don't need to package that, I have a guy lined up
21:02
@htorque yes
been that way since the last update of the icon theme
you should be able to add the SE chat to xchat
@RolandTaylor it's frigging UGLY
@ajmitch the annoying bit is remembering (or having someone tell you) all of the different commands and switches. It must seem very straightforward if you know packaging, but most of it is just flub --knurkleplurg to me
heh, understandable :)
it is a bit arcane at times
a simple wrapper script that makes it a step-by-step task would actually be all I need
the problem is the wide variety of stuff that can be packaged
21:03
"learn to do packaging" - my procrastination favorite!
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automating it can only go so far, though people have tried, with projects like pkgme
I looked at that
well
what we really need is a quickly template for lenses
for python, it turns the task of "learning packaging" into the task of "learning setuptools" :D
granted, that's much easier
so "quickly package" Just Works
21:05
right, but that still assumes that everyone will use quickly
@JorgeCastro I agree
@htorque :P
if all of the tools use the underlying packaging stuff, and there'll always be people who know this by heart, I guess everyone using quickly wouldn't be so bad. (+ templates for more languages and frameworks)
@ajmitch psh, who wouldn't?
@ajmitch right, so I am talking for like, cookie cutter stuff
"make my own lens"
blam
not "write openoffice"
21:06
Could you make templates for other languages in Quickly?
<333333333333
that's the whole idea
quickly is fairly language-agnostic, it's pretty much just a way of scripting stuff :)
21:07
( °٢° )
@MarcoCeppi lol your love is recurring?
I imagine there'll be some interaction between quickly & publishing stuff on the new developer.u.c site
@ajmitch you are a dev, you gotta know (:P): problems with drawing the desktop are happening in unity and unity-2d → is the problem likely in nautilus?
@htorque why on earth would I know? :)
Quickly is a big selling point for Ubuntu, it really needs to be given more airplay :)
21:10
that's like saying "you're good with computers, you must know this specific function of MS word!" ;)
@ajmitch well, it was worth a try. ;-)
@htorque have you applied updates today?
There was a little problem with Nautilus before, but it seems to be resolved on my end.
I'd assume nautilus as the first place to shift blame to
Well, it was crashing Unity before... so yes. Blame it :D
@RolandTaylor yeah, i'm up to date. bug already got two dupes and a lot "affects me"
just that's in unity, which is obviously wrong
21:12
yeah
BTW the fading menus are awesome :D
wants to show it off but needs a new screencasting app
yeah, better than before
I should update to oneiric on actual hardware, not just virtualbox
eh? you use it in VB? O.o...
how can you live with yourself :D?
yeah
why do you say that?
You don't know what you're missing (neither do I... but the drama is fun).
21:14
right
i'm missing a correctly aligned desktop :P
lol... On a serious note: I've tried it in VB too, but it's much smoother on real hardware :)
depends on your hardware i guess - it's running smoothly in vbox here (unity, not -2d)
I always read that as "visual basic"
21:15
@StefanoPalazzo how much of your lens have you managed to rewrite for oneiric?
@htorque how does a core2duo (2Ghz) and 4GB RAM sound :S?
(lame right?)
I've written a few VB programs. it'll get easier, but you'll never completely forget
only two cores? only 4 gib ram? how can you live with that? :D
I have a c2d computer, it runs awesome still
(j/k)
21:16
Honestly... I have no clue :D
@ajmitch not a single line yet, I've been both busy and "busy" :\
@JorgeCastro btw, that mail about getting stuff updated, cross-post to ARB might have been useful :)
I'd sooooooooooooo love an i7 right now :D
(seriously :D)
@htorque My machine only has two cores... and 2GB of RAM.
an i5 is ok too :P
21:16
I've got a c2d laptop, only 4GB RAM, and it runs smoothly in virtualbox
I don't do a lot of tasks that need more than two cores.
2 GiB could be a problem with 11.10...
does someone want to buy me a new laptop?
please?
at least if you have longer uptimes
@htorque Seriously?
21:17
I'd love a second processor core to test my SMP code :P
memleeeeaaaaak attack!
Oh, I never leave it on overnight.
then you'll probably just be fine
@htorque 11.10 unity really shouldn't leak that much
at least if it does, I know who to thump :P
it's not unity, but appmenu
how does +10mb per opening gimp sound? ;-)
21:18
Leaks != Good
Opening various programs causes unity-panel-service to use more and more resident memory (that won't be freed after program termination). Attaching a valgrind log of unity-panel-service containing ten starts of Kile (which caused unity-panel-service to go from 23 MB to 119 MB resident memory usage): ==8130== LEAK SUMMARY: ==8130== definitely lost: 45,015 bytes in 508 blocks ==8130== indirectly lost: 203,173 bytes in 5,553 blocks ==8130== possibly lost: 23,453 bytes in 450 blocks ==8130== still reachable: 28,961,416 bytes in 525,544 blocks TEST CASE: 1. Open a gnome-terminal window. 2. Run 'while true; do ps aux | grep unity-panel-service | grep -v grep; sleep 1; done' and monitor the sixth column (resident memory usage in KB). 3a. Open and close Gimp, or if zou don't have that installed: 3b. Open and close Nautilus. RESULTS: For 3a: memory increases by ~12 MB. For 3b: memory increases by ~2 MB. I'm currently running Unity from trunk (r1455) but this also happens w
unity
High / Confirmed
I have about 2 apps with memleaks...
@ajmitch go, "thump" ;-)
JS Studio is proudly not one of them.
I ran it through valgrind.
21:19
one is a notification indicator, and the other seems to be either compiz or unity-panel-service
@GeorgeEdison :D
<3 (@Explorer don't be jealous, but I <3 George too... in a manly way of course)
@htorque looks like fun :)
only with enough ram :P
@RolandTaylor :D, that case is okay.
restarting gajim brb
poke
@RolandTaylor
21:27
and firefox
oh sweet...
I walk away from the computer for a second...
and unity crashes :D
banshee sucker
killing ma tags is uncool
feels like i reported this a year ago
> 256 New bugs
in unity - almost impossible to fight the flood of new bugs
not as impossible as fixing all 1548 open bugs, though :D
Banshee won't start for me...
still?
and none of the bugs or event the question I asked got a single reply :/
yep
get off that PPA i'd say :P
21:39
still
I'm using the one from the normal repo
that works fine here. have you tried starting it with a new user (or a backed up-and-moved-away config)?
~/.config/banshee-1/ ~/.cache/banshee-1/ ~/.cache/media-art
21:55
@ajmitch oh, I didn't know there was an ARB mailing list
@ajmitch feel free to send it on though
@JorgeCastro it's where we do all our secret plotting

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