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Luis Alvarado

01:04

Hi guys, are there any news about a future version of fdisk, cfdisk and sfdisk with regards to supporting GPT. I know parted and gdisk support this but was wondering if they will eventually support it. The tendency is for bigger disks and right now all my HDD as 2+ TB.

Nathan Osman

01:16

I thought parted supported GPT?

I just formatted a disk with GPT a few days ago.

Seth

> fdisk does not understand GUID partition tables (GPTs) and it is not
designed for large partitions. In these cases, use the more advanced
GNU parted(8).

from man fdisk.

No Time

01:31

does anyone know about why all of the commands in my /sbin/ will not run unless I go directly to them?

I thought ifconfig was normally supposed to run without any extra things needed, for example

Nathan Osman

2buntu is about to be available on Docker.

Thomas W.

unclear and maybe offtopic: askubuntu.com/questions/529876/help-with-my-sd-card

Nathan Osman

01:49

Ta-da: registry.hub.docker.com/u/2buntu/2buntu-django-blog

I'm working on adding some more instructions.

Seth

gah, now I need to figure out how to get the files off the VM..

@ThomasW. meh, not really OT. Kinda unclear though.

William Lawn Stewart

02:09

Is it just me, or has anyone else had issues running sudo after installing the bash updates last week? My Debian systems are fine, but the Ubuntu server at work won't let me sudo anything

Seth

02:32

I haven't had any issues.

William Lawn Stewart

Probably just some idiocy on my part then, I'll grab one of the other people with sudo rights and see if they can get in

Either that or the apocalypse is nigh

hbdgaf

Hey @Whaaaaaat - you seem to like skyrim a lot. I got a kick out of this youtube.com/…

Seth

hmm, what was the mailing list "trail" about possibly going rolling?

hbdgaf

@WilliamLawnStewart my sudo still works.

William Lawn Stewart

02:52

Seems it was just a case of idiocy over here, my login appears to have lost all its groups

Lucio

@NathanOsman awesome!

I need to figure out the use of dockers in some of this days :/

hbdgaf

@WilliamLawnStewart happens

@Lucio took me like a day to get up to speed on about half of docker. the other half isn't necessary until it's necessary... so as long as you're not on the core dev team for docker - a day is enough.

Lucio

Interesting. I'll postpone that day for the next month anyway

btw, what does RTM means?

William Lawn Stewart

release to manufacturing

Lucio

thanks William

Eliah Kagan

02:58

Software release life cycle

A software release life cycle is the sum of the stages of development and maturity for a piece of computer software: ranging from its initial development to its eventual release, and including updated versions of the released version to help improve software or fix bugs still present in the software. == Stages of development == === History === Usage of the "alpha/beta" test terminology originated at IBM. As long ago as the 1950s (and probably earlier), IBM used similar terminology for their hardware development. "A" test was the verification of a new product before public announcement. ...

Lucio

now I can proceed to the stars :P

now waiting for the GA in my country :D

hbdgaf

OT: Why do all the good shows get canceled... I'm rewatching "The Finder" series again

Lucio

(General availability)

@hbdgaf maybe you just have weird likes

Journeyman Geek

@Lucio: or likes sci fi

Lucio

or both

Journeyman Geek

03:02

(Though, one of my shows is surviving by virtue of canadianism)

ls

hbdgaf

I'm not touching the Firefly thing... I understand how it went under the bus. I don't understand what did it to Finder though.

Journeyman Geek

(current shows are person of interest, which isn't likely to die, on account of being near future sci fi, Dr who, Gotham and agents of shield. I also watch continuum, when its in season)

I'd LOVE a proper space opera :/

hbdgaf

Alternately it could be that "popular" is measured by least common denominator people much like "cyber-law" blog.erratasec.com/2014/09/…

Lucio

O.o

hbdgaf

@JourneymanGeek person of interest was interesting. gotham isn't far enough along to know yet. agents of shield i watch, but it's a little campy. idk on continuum

Journeyman Geek

03:06

Continuum is interesting

but too many unresolved threads

hbdgaf

so it's a robert jordan book in TV form

Journeyman Geek

Also, it suffers from space station syndrome.

@hbdgaf: I think part of the issue is branching timelines

but they didn't make it clear until 3 seasons on

hbdgaf

it's on my list to check out. i watched in total all of the others

Lucio

@hbdgaf I have never seen so much law in a security site

Journeyman Geek

Gotham has lovely visuals and I like the story development so far.

but BUT the main conceit, that its batman before batman, and that they keep shoehorning in charecters...

Lucio

03:10

Hopefully I don't need to read it to get Bob point of view >.<

hbdgaf

@JourneymanGeek It's just the pilot. Give it time to turn one way or the other. Everything that makes it to "Pilot aired on Hulu" is at least not that terrible. I need a little more.

Journeyman Geek

and I was pretty sure Montoya was a lot younger than Gordon

@hbdgaf: some shows start slowburn ;p

Shield didn't really have much charecter development till the tail end of the first season.

hbdgaf

all i'm saying is wait for it. they could ruin a chunk of watchable, or redeem it

Lucio

Hey came on people, what is going on with you that no one mention Seinfeld.

hbdgaf

@Lucio I don't discuss series that give birth to "Coffee with comedians in cars" although I do watch the latter.

Lucio

03:13

wtf

hbdgaf

is the icon a madonna picture? no wait that was something else...

I was thinking tank-girl given context, but okay.

iKlsR

Can I use the ubuntu to write micorsfot word?

I nned reply ASAP for work!!

thnx

Journeyman Geek

seems to be a rails test package.

@iKlsR no. one does not simply write microsoft word.

iKlsR

Damn blue text gives me away, I keep forgetting.

Journeyman Geek

that and no one can be that stupid ;p

iKlsR

03:19

;)

Always nice to kill a few minutes on irc watching brains implode.

Journeyman Geek

oh yeah.

iKlsR

minecraft420headshot has joined the room

Journeyman Geek

If anyone wants a free synergy premium licence let me know.

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iKlsR

Finally after years made the switch to gnome shell and couldn't be happier.

Sleek and fast, also feels more spacious.

Journeyman Geek

Apparently I got a bunch of promo codes, and if you want the latest version, you either need to pay a fiver (which is not too bad) or know someone who did, and got a bunch of promo codes dumped on their lap ;p

Seth

03:31

@iKlsR Must admit.. fooled me ;)

In other news I decided I'd just scp the file in my VM to my server and then scp it back to the host. Kinda hacky, but at least I don't have to mess with port forwarding et al.

Lucio

sexy solutions

(searching for TM icon)

couldn't find icon ☹

Seth

™

Lucio

too late™

Seth

hehe

Lucio

Instead I could find interesting chars art :O

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Your move Sr.

Seth

03:57

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I need to go to bed now. Night!

Rinzwind

07:00

@Lucio those pieces are on the WRONG starting squares

spam: askubuntu.com/questions/529950/…

1 more needed

Rinzwind

07:39

@JourneymanGeek me! If you mean by synergy the tool that let's you switch between systems with 1 keyboard and 1 mouse

Journeyman Geek

@Rinzwind: you around?

I believe you can pop that into the order page, and that should turn up in your inbox. If it dosen't show up, let me know.

Rinzwind

yo

I missed that >:) @JourneymanGeek

Got it

Journeyman Geek

(and oh hell, I have plenty to spare)

I believe you input it in the order page somewhere

Rinzwind

trying to get it done :=)

worked as promo code @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

cool

Takkat

10:20

> I use Ubuntu 10.04 (Backtrack 5R3). It works on Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04..

tsk tsk tsk - if all issues were that obvious...

Oli

Seems to be OT for being ancient too

Takkat

Oli's comments are always so nice and encouraging.

Rinzwind

Oli FTW

user127654

11:29

Can anyone help me with my problem here? Name Not Showing in User Menu GNOME

Pandya

12:08

I am currently facing issue like : askubuntu.com/q/17381/256099

I want to (or have to) solve this by tty ( say Ctrl+Alt+F1). Answers of question mentioned above ask to install compizconfig-settings-manager or any tweaking utility. But I want to solve this problem without installing any extra packages.

"dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ " or "gsettings reset-recursively org.compiz" says "can not auto-launch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY ".

So, Is it possible to solve problem without getting any extra packages (say-offline)? How do I do that?

Rinzwind

@Pandya You can't. You need to do this from display F7.

Pandya

@Rinzwind But I can't open terminal.

blade19899

I want this: Firefox CSS live edit in Sublimetext (work in progress) - YouTube

Pandya

12:23

@Rinzwind Is there any way to open gnome-terminal in such condition?

blade19899

Found the how to: Future of Firefox DevTools // by Paul Rouget

When am home, am gonna take that bad boy for a spin!

Oli

12:38

Getting close to the point where I won't need to install Firebug.

blade19899

@Oli Very close! But, Mozilla and firebug have been working to get them together. Your choice:

Its ugly as sin. But, its just an early version.

I want 'Firefox CSS live edit in Sublimetext' like yesterday.

This also looks promesing: Takana Live Editor Demo - YouTube Takana lets you see your SCSS and CSS style changes live, in the browser, as you type them

jrg

13:39

I don't have Firebug installed.

Rinzwind

13:51

@Pandya Not that I know;for gnome related changes you need the desktop

@Oli kick this back to another site please: http://askubuntu.com/questions/530114/upgrading-ubuntu-13-09-to-13-10-for-lts
It is about LINARO

jrg

@Rinzwind why is it off-topic?

and where else is it going to go?

Rinzwind

@jrg Linaro is not Ubuntu :=)

linaro.org

jrg

linaro.org/members < Canonical is the only Linux distro creator on that list

and i see ports.ubuntu.com all over the place.

askubuntu.com/tags/linaro < we have a few linaro questions already...

@Oli Nah, i'm the guy who'll dump a 1gigabit speedtest on everyone.

Rinzwind

But is is not on the list >:)

jrg

Mostly because it was never something anyone ever talked about before.

terdon

14:05

What exactly is it? It looks like a collection of "technology solutions" whatever that means.

Rinzwind

ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives :=)

terdon

Trying to figure out if it would be on topic for Unix & Linux.

jrg

@terdon definitely would be on-topic for U&L.

Rinzwind

@terdon The more I look at that site the less I understand of it

terdon

@Rinzwind I know. IS it a distro or what?

Damn marketingspeak

jrg

14:07

Asking on #ubuntu-server

terdon

> Linaro’s mission is to bring together the electronics industry and the open source community to work on key projects, deliver great tools, reduce industry wide fragmentation and redundant effort, and provide common software foundations for all.

> Member companies fund Linaro and provide half of its engineering resources as assignees who work full time on Linaro projects. These assignees combined with over 100 of Linaro’s own engineers create a team of over 200 software developers. Work is conducted openly and Linaro engages with the broader open source community on a daily basis on IRC, …

Rinzwind

@terdon ARM so ... phones? so touch?

terdon

Routers?

NASes?

jrg

ARM servers

Rinzwind

@terdon STILL CONFUSED

terdon

14:08

@Rinzwind I know, that's their about page. And they never actually say what it's supposed to be.

Rinzwind

they even have a 13.09 release

jrg

Linaro had their summit right next to UDS last time

linaro.org/blog/community-blog/lds

Rinzwind

@jrg still does not make it an AU questions >:D

jrg

I'd say it's pretty intertwined.

terdon

I don't see any connection whatsoever to Ubuntu. Only that Canonical is one of many member companies.

Rinzwind

14:09

linaro.org/downloads

terdon

Why would that make whatever this thing is on topic on AU?

Rinzwind

Linaro Member Builds

LMBs are full system builds of popular open-source products set up at the request of a Linaro Core/Club Member company.

jrg

@terdon they use LaunchPad a lot. Aren't a lot of non-ubuntu projects that use LP.

#ubuntu-server says that this specific question is a Linaro one.

terdon

@jrg OK, so how does that make them an official Ubuntu flavor? As far as I can tell they aren't Ubuntu at all let alone a flavor. Far less on topic than Debian, let alone Mint or other derivatives.

Rinzwind

@jrg so that is their way of saying: WE don't want it?

blade19899

14:11

oly crap: softpedia.com got a redesign 0.o

Rinzwind

@terdon I am currently on your side

jrg

@terdon ports.ubuntu.com is highly indicative of "Ubuntu" to me... that, plus their sharing the space with UDS indicates that it would be on-topic, most likely, if it was a generic, non-linario specific question. It would fall into the same category as installing Ubuntu to a Chromebook.

However, since this is a "How do I update from Linaro Release A to Linaro Release B?", this doesn't come close.

terdon

@jrg I just saw the Q, feel free to pass it on to us at Unix & Linux.

jrg

(Does that make sense?)

@terdon ok, sending your way.

terdon

As for being on topic here, I find it very hard to defend Mint and Kali not being on topic and this strange thing yes.

jrg

14:15

It's Ubuntu, just on different hardware. Not like Mint and Kali, which use different repos and builds entirely.

(BTW, Kali is actually debian based now, as is mint)

terdon

I thought that anything not listed here is off topic.

@jrg Mint is not, they have a Debian edition, but their main product is still Ubuntu.

jrg

This particular Linaro is simply a build of Ubuntu desktop/server for a specific ARM arch.

Just like for a ChromeBook.

Rinzwind

no Canonical here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linaro

jrg

which is on-topic, according to meta.

Rinzwind

all it says it uses an Ubuntu version

terdon

14:17

@jrg But that's precisely what Mint is. Actually, Mint is considerably closer to Ubuntu since it's not really a specific kernel built for another architecture.

Personally, I'm all for opening AU to more Ubuntu derivatives. I've argued for that in the past but have been overruled. I'm just saying that making Linaro on topic and keeping other things which are far closer to Ubuntu off topic seems contradictory.

jrg

Linaro has a much closer set of ties than Mint does, thanks to canonical being dumb.

I personally don't like the idea of Linaro being on-topic, but i'm just going with what the IRC guys thought.

terdon

@jrg How so?

jrg

Shared UDS space, shared infrastructure (ports.ubuntu.com), canonical partnership... that seems pretty indicative of a much closer relationship than we have with say, the Kernel foundation, Debian or GNOME.

Rinzwind

canonical partnership is claimed on their site, i do not see it anywhere else. The wiki has a list of partnetrs and when they joined... no canonical :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linaro

jokerdino

Let's do it like how we handle Zorin OS questions.

jrg

14:26

jokerdino

6

Q: Do we count Zentyal as a on-topic Ubuntu derivative?

I have encountered a vergence in the Ubuntu derivative landscape, Zentyal! So basically, my question is this: Because the zentyal packages are in the Ubuntu Archives, and because they have a partnership with Canonical about this stuff, do we count them as off-topic or on-topic?

Does that count as a precedent?

terdon

The lines of what is and is not on topic on AU have never been very clear. I think that the current approach of anything not listed on the canonical derivatives page being off topic is the only rational way to deal with it. Why complicate things further by adding a relatively obscure project?

jrg

@jokerdino Mixing community resources makes it even muddier.

terdon

@jrg many organizations provide what are essentially builds of Ubuntu yet they are all off topic. Off the top of my head, Mint, Zorin, elementary, backtrack, linspire

jrg

so yes, that could count, but the Linaro <> Ubuntu <> Canonical relationship is muddier than any of the others.

terdon

14:29

and loads more listed here: wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives all of which are off topic despite being essentially Ubuntu with very few changes.

jrg

Because all of the others are doing it without any sort of blessing, care or information from Canonical.

Better question: I go and take Ubuntu for Phones, and start making my own phone with it.

I sell them.

terdon

@jrg I don't see how that's relevant. If Canonical were to decide to produce toasters, that wouldn't make toaster question on topic.

jrg

It's straight Ubuntu phone stuff

am I on or off-topic?

I'd be off-topic.

jokerdino

if you sell Ubuntu phone, pretty on topic.

terdon

You're off topic unless you're listed as an official derivative.

jrg

14:30

but, if I was a "Official partner", then I'd be on-topic.

jokerdino

but if you're modding the Ubuntu for phone, then not.

jrg

as we're currently interpreting things.

terdon

9

Q: Make the on-topic section more explicit

Since there is often confusion on this site as to which Ubuntu derivatives are actually on topic, why not explicitly list them on the Help page? Instead of: We welcome questions about: Using and administering Ubuntu, including official Ubuntu derivatives. Something like: We welcome...

discussion status-completed help-center

That was my first meta post here I think. Precisely 'cause I couldn't understand what was considered off topic and what on.

jrg

And this is Ubuntu Server.

Running off of *ubuntu.com

terdon

What is? Linaro?

jrg

14:32

installed on some weird hardware

@terdon yes

terdon

How is it running off of *ubuntu.com?

You mean it uses the Ubuntu repos?

jrg

Yes.

terdon

So does Mint and all the other derivatives.

jrg

But Mint doesn't have a partnership with us.

terdon

That's hardly an argument for making something on topic.

jokerdino

14:33

who is 'us'?

jrg

Mint didn't have the "Mint Developer Summit" at the same time as UDS.

terdon

Yes, it's not listed as an official derivative. Neither is Linaro.

jrg

Linaro did.

Rinzwind

@terdon that is one wiki edit away from making it official >:D

terdon

And, again, how is that relevant? We don't work for or are in any way affiliated with Canonical.

jrg

14:34

Community events != canonical

UDS. Ubuntu Developer Summit. Not Canonical Developer Summit.

Ports.ubuntu.com. Not ports.canonical.com.

terdon

@Rinzwind In which case, it should also be made on topic. I'm arguing that we should keep to the standard we have decided upon where whether something is on topic depends on whether it is considered an "official derivative".

Personally, I think anything that's Ubuntu based should be on topic but I know you guys disagree. I just can't see why some obscure corporate relationship should dictate what we consider on topic.

jrg

I personally don't care - I think there is bad blood and politics between Ubuntu and Mint, Elementary etc, so there's things other than technical at play there.

Rinzwind

@terdon anything listed on the help is ontopic for me >:D That's what I use as a guideline

jrg

However, there is a good case to be made for Linaro to fit here, better than serverfault, or U&L.

Rinzwind

@jrg so now convince seth to add it to the help >:D

terdon

14:37

@jrg That really shouldn't affect AU in any way whatsoever! Who cares about what the corporate folks are doing? We're Linux geeks, trying to help each other out.

@Rinzwind Me too, and that derives from the list of "official derivatives".

And is there bad blood between Mint and Ubuntu? Not on the mint side as far as I know from when I hung out on their forums.

jrg

If I asked a question about a beagleboard, it would be on topic.

Rinzwind

@terdon the only bad blood was during a comment made by canonical about mint leeching the servers.

terdon

@jrg Only if it happened to be running Ubuntu right?

@Rinzwind Ah, OK.

jrg

@terdon and the linaro box seems to be running ubuntu, of some flavor.

Rinzwind

Ill be back! PM me the solution if there is one >:D

jrg

14:41

Whatever - I can't sit on the internet and argue all day. I think that most of them are on-topic, just like most things for Ubuntu are on-topic, and some other things are not. Later all.

terdon

@jrg fine. But this should be brought up on meta since the current guidelines clearly make it off topic.

Lucio

16:27

@Rinzwind I could say the same about your Queen ¬¬

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

16:43

0

Q: rsyslog make error - collect2: error

I am trying to install rsyslog from source on Ubuntu 14.04. I have managed to get through the ./configure stage, having had to install a lot of packages, and also needed to install a couple of things for the make stage too. However during make I am getting the following error, which I cannot unde...

ubuntu software-installation make rsyslog

rlemon

18:37

> I am believed that you already have PL-2303X/H Linux driver source, and you also know how to compile it in Linux, so I only explain how to link device with our driver.

well, that is an assumption you got wrong.

jerks

so, does anyone have a usb -> serial adapter that actually works on linux?

terdon

@rlemon Ouch, not I. I haven't even seen a serial port in years.

Rinzwind

@rlemon not me :-) last serial I used was 10 years ago. at least

rlemon

I work in the embedded industry, rs232 is still used :/

And i'm sick of doing work on windows just because I can use the adapters there

Rinzwind

But it should still work :)

rlemon

well then, who wants to help :D

I have one adapter which has source to download

paste.ubuntu.com/8460555

but that is their only instructions.

that first paragraph is over estimating my abilities :P

Mateo

18:59

@terdon the cubieboard runs Linaro even though the download says "lubuntu" it even upgraded straight to 14.04 no problems for me

terdon

@Mateo Dunno, as I said, I'm not even sure what Linaro is. Just that if it's going to be on topic, there should be a meta post about it.

Mateo

meh, not like i'm going to ask any questions about it... most would probably try to ask how to use the livesuit tools how to flash the images and stuff. and that is not something I want to answer. Than and probably the same question about how flash isn't supported on arm

hbdgaf

20:47

Ohh did I have a case of the Mondays...

Mateo

21:00

quite a monday huh

mine was ok, not as planned but ok.

Whaaaaaat

@hbdgaf I saw that video already

@JourneymanGeek I'll take that Synergy license

Mateo

@Whaaaaaat haha, the skyrim video? that was funny

Whaaaaaat

@Mateo yep

@Oli Y'know what's sad? I still get 300ms.

hbdgaf

21:34

@Mateo yeah, it was a monday for sure.

hbdgaf

21:46

So, I played out chess and go. Not that I was awesome at either, but that I plateaued and wasn't getting any better. Thinking of trying out hnefatafl.se

Lucio

I hope my chess chars have nothing related with that retrospection.

hbdgaf

No, they don't. I hadn't played in years. I was looking at similarities between asymmetric warfare and startup companies... and stumbled across that game. So, I thought it would be an interesting idle moment to keep me thinking a little differently or pushing to think differently.

Lucio

oh, that adds a bit of context

hbdgaf

Doesn't it though

Sometimes my left field ramblings just lack context, and they're not really out of left field.

Lucio

yeah, bad gut

hbdgaf

21:59

Having an incorrect kneejerk reaction isn't a bad thing. Specifically when you didn't have all the facts to begin with.

Lucio

Dec 19 '13 at 0:57, by Lucio

@hbdgaf Sometimes I can't understand a single word of what you say.

hbdgaf

I know. That's why I don't get irritated if you don't get something. You try/want to understand. Some people don't even try...

Jonathan Musso

22:25

Hello guys. I am a new Ubuntu user. I am installing Ubuntu with VMWARE Player. I just completed a few scripts to install the VMWARE Tools but it seems like the terminal is stuck on something. I am not sure what to do. Can someone help me please?

terdon

@JonathanMusso Why don't you post a question? Remember to explain what scripts you're talking about and what exactly is stuck and when.

Jonathan Musso

@terdon Scripts may be wrong..I guess commands? I followed the setup here for the command line setup - kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/… when I rebooted a bunch of checks all say OK but then I can't do anything and there is no confirmation.

hbdgaf

I gave 100 rep or so to a question that probably fixes it for you. Just a sec

My guess is it's probably this askubuntu.com/questions/414783/…

vmware failing to build parts

Jonathan Musso

Hmm, I am not sure if I am on that stage. Right now I can't make any input on terminal, the _ is just flashing

hbdgaf

At that part, it doesn't even usually launch right. Might be something else.

Jonathan Musso

22:32

Would a screen shot help? I am not very experienced with Terminal so I am going to have some difficulty identifying things.

hbdgaf

It's related in that vmware doesn't build right against lots of newer kernels though. I'm at the end of a long day, so if it requires more than signposting, i'm probs a little useless.

Jonathan Musso

i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r733/hardtail75/…

ok, I understand..there is a screenshot though

thank you for your time

Jonathan Musso

23:02

I posted a question if anyone can help askubuntu.com/questions/530307/…

Jonathan Musso

23:26

I don't know what the hell is going on but I pressed the right arrow key now the ubuntu logo came up with the loading bars...it';s been there for about 5 minutes so far.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How do I unstick a stuck ubuntu system? http://unix.stackexchange.com/unanswered

My Asus loads what appears to be a working Grub, but this closes (quickly!) to leave a leave a password request in the middle of an empty screen. I have no idea what password the installers of this system gave it (if any), but nothing will shift the request; the situation is immovable from there....

ubuntu

Journeyman Geek

@Whaaaaaat ping

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