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10:02
@Oli please post my first message on chat(In this room)
@Oli it is it is! wine is bad :=D
hmm deleting /etc/default/ is bad too :+D
why don't you copy the /etc/default folder from your live disk to the partition where Ubuntu is installed? — Avinash Raj 1 min ago
Oli
Oli
Nov 16 '13 at 20:44, by Avinash Raj
@Braiam,@Rinzwind I saw some few lines about how to make a file immutable in Linux shell scripting cookbook,(Making files immutable
Files on extended type filesystems, which are common in Linux (for example, ext2, ext3, ext4,
and so on) can be made immutable using a certain type of file attributes. When a file is made
immutable, any user or super user cannot remove the file until the immutable attribute is
removed from the file.)It was the reason behind that question.Thank you for spending time and explain me clearly.
we have to create a accidentally tag for these kinda questions.
Oli
Oli
Not sure if that's the first but it's your first instance of having said I
10:11
thanks Oli :-)
@Oli don't scare me like that! :=D
I remember, you said to me "We would like to see gold and silver badges behind your name" @Oli
what happened with this user? askubuntu.com/users/275692/mango
@Danatela he went to bed? >:)
Unregistered??
10:23
???
Good user name though.. love mangoes!!
uhh.. like mangoes..
@Rinzwind first icon in your top panel represents what?
Why does a partition (ext4) become root?
it's like google currents.
@AvinashRaj ?
wait
That is synergy @AvinashRaj
@AvinashRaj Why off topic?
10:28
tool to share 1 keyboard and 1 mouse over more than 1 system
(I have a windows desktop and ubuntu notebook each with their own 22" screen. synergy lets met use 1 kb 1 mouse to use both) works on any system that is in the same network
@terdon Kinda XML code.
works the same as a dual screen setup but that with 2 computers :D
Then when you press enter in one wont it get pressed in another too ???!!
10:30
@AvinashRaj Not at all, the question is about configuring tomcat, not writing XML.
@Venki no if I press a key it goes to the screen that has the mouse pointer ;)
only problem I have with it is when using a vpn... that kills my network so it does not work
oh my SE android app is toooo fast.
here: synergy-foss.org
Hmmm... will read that..
This will work with a Microsoft surface and Microsoft windows7 desktop( which my FRIEND HAS) ??
Copy and paste between computers!!! HMMMM!!! (:-o
Seems it will...
Hey why is a single message trying to post twice here!!!!
network prob.
10:40
ok ok.. hav to pay bill for data card.. so using net from mobile phone .. so slow network it seems..
data card? which one.
BSNL 3G ...given by my father's office...
Will get a modem soon and get a broadband connection...
going to play cricket :-)
AHA!!! Enjoy!!
government employee?
10:43
YA
@AvinashRaj I owe you a bunch your first comment worked!!!! thanks — Brenden Carvalho 33 secs ago
may i post my first comment as answer?
11:05
Hello Everyone :)
I have a question
i want to install vlc in ubuntu,i'm new user of ubuntu,i want to install it offline,i've downloaded the .tar file from site,now how to install it?
@SSAURABHH why offline?
i have downloaded the offline file .tar or gzip
because i use ubuntu in virtual box,i usually delete it,then reinstall it cause storage problem
does your host have internet access?
N.B. - since you said you are "new to ubuntu" - I presume you come from a windows background? .tar files are usually just source code files that need compilation. To do that you'll need a whole host of other packages to install. Definitely not something you want to attempt if you are new.
Could someone help me convince the OP that scaling down the CPU when running at >90 degrees is not a bad thing?
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Q: CPU Turbo boost: disable temperature limit under 14.04

user275766I've installed kubuntu 14.04, and there is some problem with CPU turbo frequency. I've read a lot about it, but can't find the correct answer. There is an i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz with 3.20GHz turbo in my Lenovo Y580 notebook. If i put the cpu at full load (with rendering in blender on 8 threads...

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Q: User asks question but his profile is 'page not found'

PartoThis user asks a question and 30 secs later I go to check out his/her profile only to face the 'Page not found' error. What is the explanation behind that?

11:20
@fossfreedom yes i'm from windows background,the vlc package is about 20 mb,it should not only source code,my host has internet access,but i have lmited bandwidth :\
sure - but it is still more efficient to do sudo apt-get install vlc - give me a link to where you downloaded vlc from
Excuse me people!! I made a liveUSB of 14.04 LTS with unetbootin on a 4GB pendrive that had two partitions..one for persistence and the other for putting in the Ubuntu install....now I boot into my pendrive and i get a screen asking me to try ubuntu install or install ubuntu(the screen has a title "Unetbootin")...now if i press try ubuntu without install it opens some console like thinkg(intriamfs it says) ... i can type in that terminal but cant try ubuntu...what is the problem here?
from vlc official site
I see 22mb as a windows.exe download - is that what you downloaded?
vlc-2.0.8a.tar for ubuntu.xz
this the file name
its 17.9 mb
11:25
@terdon ^^^
@fossfreedom ^^^^
@SSAURABHH give me the web link please
i'm finding wait for a while
@Venki I'm a bloke - I dont multitask like women - one thing at a time
Ok
11:29
@Venki No idea, I've never played with USB installs.
oh! yes you already said!! sorry, I forgot!
@terdon use yumi usb tool
@SSAURABHH Huh? That's to create an installable USB, I know. Venki is trying to play with persistence.
Also, @SSAURABHH see here: help.ubuntu.com/community/…
@SSAURABHH that's just a bunch of source code - you can't install that.
:(
Thanks :)
11:34
as I said - quicker and more efficient to just install from the local repositories
@fossfreedom why not? ./configure && make && sudo make install
Dependencies will be an (huge) issue of course
^^^ yeah that - massive download - the OP is bandwidth constrained
Help?
Sorry Venki - what's the problem - what are you trying to do?
18 mins ago, by Venki
Excuse me people!! I made a liveUSB of 14.04 LTS with unetbootin on a 4GB pendrive that had two partitions..one for persistence and the other for putting in the Ubuntu install....now I boot into my pendrive and i get a screen asking me to try ubuntu install or install ubuntu(the screen has a title "Unetbootin")...now if i press try ubuntu without install it opens some console like thinkg(intriamfs it says) ... i can type in that terminal but cant try ubuntu...what is the problem here?
11:42
Bye
@Venki what instructions were you following to do this?
and why dont you just want to use the standard unetbootin persistence file?
@Danatela I did the thing with txt.cfg(when i used startup disk creator) but it aint working!
@fossfreedom Right..but it must work the way that answer tells too right? If that is what i can do then what if i had a 8GB pendrive instead of a 4GB one? With the default casper-rw file i can only have 4GB persistence right?...
@Venki sorry, the instructions are for UUI. UNetbootIn should be easier though
11:48
Oh!! Seems tougher to me!! It just shows some console when I boot in with the liveUSB and select try ubuntu without installing...
@Danatela
you used "startup disk creator"? - that is just a bad bad tool causing all sorts of issues - unetbootin is the tool of choice here. Never understood why ubuntu ships startup disk creator - it has never worked for me.
Ok.. I used Unetbootin now. Atleast with startup disk creator i could get into ubuntu.. but with unetbootin it just shows some console!
[at] fossfreedom
@fossfreedom I've had problems with unetbootin, multisystem is the tool for me. It depends on what distro you're installing.
@Venki have a look at some more choices here: superuser.com/a/533159/151431
@Venki create a question - write down step by step what you have done and screenshots of the issue. Its difficult to diagnose this stuff in chat
ok.. I will try with some other s/w and if it doesn't work i will post an AU question..fine?
11:53
yep
ok... Ciao for now! BBL!! :-D
12:05
@zetah what do you mean by "spam messages" for this Q? askubuntu.com/questions/57915/…
12:31
@fossfreedom I am back. Ok actually before i was selecting the wrong option form the BOOT menu.. Now I selected th right one and got into live USB session successfully. Now the issue is HOW DO I USE MY PERSISTENCE PARTITION TO STORE MY SETTINGs?
I presume this is a separate "drive" you see in nautilus?
Ya.. I had labelled it casper-rw
just save whatever you need into this "drive" via nautilus
Welll, lets say i change certain things in "System Settings" in the live USB session... how will I save those settings into the persistence partition?
@fossfreedom
hmm? its a live USB - that's not what you have done - If you wanted a regular ubuntu install you should have just installed it onto the USB. The alternative is to play around moving /home onto the second partition.
12:40
ok.. so i can just save some files... NOT SETTINGS like a normal install... right?
@terdon i need your help.
if [ $VAR1 = "$var2" ] ; then
var2=180 kb/s
is that the above code is right or wrong?
@Venki I've never played with a live USB using the method you've tried - I'm doubtful. When you make changes and reboot I presume the changes are not saved?
Yes
and i saw everything was fine with syslinux file ... there was "persistent" written in many places in the file ...
hmm - persistence should cope with user based changes - sounds like something went wrong with your setup - dunno though. Create a question I think. More experienced minds in this area will help I'm sure.
:-p I am exhausted to do that.. well well.. will post it later...
Man i am letting this go!! I am going to try with the default casper-rw file!!!!
BYE!! Ciao
12:52
@fossfreedom How are you today?
fine thanks - and you?
I'm too.
I registered a small project in to github
well done - link?
you might just want to expand the README ... what is the project about - how are you using it etc etc
12:56
oh, I see.
thanks.
compilation instructions - what platform you used as well.
Dont forget the license!
13:09
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A: Clicking on nautilus opens new window rather than opened ones

xiaodongjieI suggest you press shift key with clicking. I think that it's very easy, and It's a function of Unity. You can see the additional information at What are Unity's keyboard and mouse shortcuts?.

@fossfreedom Now I'm editing readme.md.
and I think that my answer is good, so it have a accept, but no upvote.
Dan
Dan
@Aditya your comment got posted 3 times here: askubuntu.com/questions/416653/…
@fossfreedom Oh, I had already edited it.
@fossfreedom and please look and teach me about my answer above.
sorry - working - hopefully someone else here can help.
@fossfreedom ok. I see.
13:32
@Dan Thanks for notifying.. I have seen that happen a couple of times before.. SE makes us to wait for a certain period of time to post multiple comments (about ~15 seconds, I guess); but from Review interface it sometimes posts 3 comments simultaneously...
@fossfreedom This question was closed by @Luis... The question looks fine to me. Can you please ask @Luis why did he close it.. @Luis doesn't come to chat it seems, hence requesting you :)
I might be missing something, hence want to listen to his views before nominating to reopen it
@Aditya opened
@fossfreedom Oh.. Thanks
@AvinashRaj You need to quote "$VAR1" and also `var2="180 kb/s" otherwise, the kb/s is treated as a command. Apart from that, it seems fine.
14:02
Et tu @Oli? Parsing ls? cding instead of giving a path? Not quoting the $()? :(
Oli
Oli
@terdon Huh? It is quoted.
@Oli ` mv $(ls -t expdp*.dump | head -1)` will fail if the file name contains spaces (or anything eles that's weird)
You want mv "$(ls -t expdp*.dump | head -1)" target/
Oli
Oli
I see! Well that's fair enough
The cd is a bit more forgiveable though, isn't it?
Other issues also with newlines or backslashes etc
@Oli Yeah, just inelegant and not up to your usual standards :P
Oli
Oli
Meh, when it comes to compound bash one-liners in cron, testing is hard enough... I just prefer to be explicit with paths so we know where . is. It's out of habit.
14:09
Can't really argue against that. The only difference is the negligible overhead of running cd itself.
Personally though, I find ls /path/to/foo/* clearer than cd /path/to/foo; ls
@terdon like this
if [ "$VAR1" = "$var2" ] ; then
@AvinashRaj Yes. Note that it does string comparison. If you're comparing numbers it might fail.
Hmm, no it will never fail as such. Never mind.
@AvinashRaj I just had some fun with a co-worker. When he was afk I installed synergy on his machine and configured it to run over my computer. I managed to creep him out by randomly going with my mouse to my "3rd screen" _O-
got to have some fun when waiting for a synch to finish :P
14:20
that Accidentally deleted /etc/default directory ques brings me 50 rep.
nice :)
@terdon i think it's *.mp3
@oli @terdon you both assume there are no other mp3 in that dir >:-D
@AvinashRaj Fair enough, unlikely that any file will end in mp3 without having it as an extension but better safe than sorry.
Oli
Oli
@Rinzwind rename will only handle the files it matches
14:23
ah ok
I am more of an rename.ul guy >:D
@Oli does ubuntu not use the perl rename?
Oli
Oli
Thankfully. Or I'd have trashed a million filesystems a million times over.
@terdon Yeah (it does)
OK, just wondering since you're not using Perl syntax there.
@terdon yes rename is the perl version. rename.ul is the normal non perl
now which of the 2 seems better _o-
@Rinzwind upvote both, I upvoted Oli's :P
@Oli date flipping?
Ah, yes, I see. Fixing...
Oli
Oli
14:32
There were a couple of problems (and warnings) with mine but it's fixed up now.
@terdon Ill even it out :+
@Rinzwind Wait for it, it's wrong at the moment as @Oli pointed out.
then consider mine to be extra pressure in getting it right
> with a 50% chance of winning $20 or a 100% chance of winning $10, people more likely to choose the first option
just... why?
@Rinzwind :) Fixed now.
14:39
btw, why that seems to me like phone recordings...
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Q: SSH tunnelling outgoing traffic shaping

ImanI am using an OpenSSH server for a client app that uses the traffic forwarding, SSH tunnelling and some users are consuming an extraordinary amount of bandwidth. Is there a way to shape the traffic on SSH port output or SSH/TCP/IP Session and make sure that the fair amount of bandwidth gets distr...

@Braiam they are! he ripped them from amazon and now enlisted Oli and Terdon for a big massive spam and creditcard fraud
Oli
Oli
That's how I remember it
LOL ->
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Q: how do I report a problem to the developers

user2938089E:Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) - trying to connect with Ubuntu Software Center

Oli
Oli
Terdon more than me though. I'm just the muscle
14:44
interesting title but then it all fell apart :)
@Rinzwind the title and the body... has little to do with each other
man, karel just voted based on the title
@Rinzwind less is more ;)
I made him do a more and count to 56 just cuz I can >:D
@Rinzwind Evil... the awk Gods will smite you for failing to use available tools :P
14:51
hey if you want to bug developers a developer will make your life less easy :-D
heh
going home time :-(
the wrath of the POSIX god, fell upon @Rinzwind and was punished by using a 9600baud modem forever
Oli
Oli
Why would anybody ever need more than 9600baud? That's almost 5MB an hour. I'd run out of floppies before I knew it.
15:07
Fellas I need hewlp
I'm trying to install this
But it depends on Adobe Air which depends on ia32-lib
Now I've met the dependency
But it tells me
Oli
Oli
What version of Ubuntu are you on?
> Running 32-bit AIR 2.6 on 64-bit systems has not been fully tested. However 32-bit AIR is expected to run on 64-bit system if they have the required 32-bit libraries and packages installed.
I'm 14.04 64bit
@MadaraUchiha adobeair is the perdition of linux
Oli
Oli
I think this is as new as it gets in terms of instructions @MadaraUchiha tkalin.com/blog_posts/…
No, there's this too: leniwiec.org/en/2014/04/25/…
i am trying to set up a home server using ubuntu 12.04, i am trying to set up the dynamic dns service no-ip on it, i am following this tutorial howtoforge.com/…, after i created the the start up script it starting freezing on start up, and i cant get it started up to remove the script
Oli
Oli
15:13
Basically, since the last version of Air was made, the way Ubuntu treats 32bit runtimes on a 64bit system changed. And Adobe didn't do anything to help... And then everything changed again and Adobe did nothing again... So there are about nineteen different ways of catering to Adobe's awfulness but it's all pretty much the same thing... Get the 32bit versions of the things Air needs and try to mush them into your system at once while holding your breath.
our adobe air installation instruction was recently updated - basically you install the 32bit version as per here askubuntu.com/questions/87447/how-can-i-install-adobe-air
@Oli Thanks, this one seemed to do it.
Yeh, is that possible to install ia32-libs on Ubuntu 14.04?
you dont need to
how could i access an encrypted file system on an external hard drive that wont boot to modify the files. i have the password
Oli
Oli
15:20
@John Can you access the root filesystem through recovery mode or a live CD?
havent tried yet
did you install Ubuntu on that drive?
did you encrypted it through softwares like truecrypt,etc?
yes 12.04, and i got in to recovery i should have thought more
not true crypt, just ubuntu 12.04 servers option on install
i have a terminal
it wont let me edit the script it, says it is a Read-Only file system
how do i edit the system files from a terminal in recovery
15:29
nice! I can't access this page using Iceweasel but I can with "Firefox"... stupid user agent checks...
Alright guys, this is killing me; my changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config are not taking effect. I've tried changing the port for instance from 22 to 2222, restarted the ssh service with /etc/init.d/ssh restart and exit the current ssh session and tried reconnecting and 2222 is not listening... none of my changes are taking effect...
16:03
@AvinashRaj Hi
> To avoid a mistaken rm -rf, do not type rm -rf.
@Braiam Oh, i mistaked rm -rf one year ago.
so I lost many files.
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Q: Remotely Administer RedHat Box

user65215 Currently we are accessing a remote Red Hat Box via SSH through local Ubuntu machines. But now we need to use some type of Remote Desktop client to access it, so I have used VNC in the past and I know there should be something else like Reminna or something a like. Also I remember there was an ...

sooo, I shouldn't rm -rf / ??
Firefox seems to get confused as to which DE is currently running.
@sadmicrowave Most certainly not. Though it won't do anything on a modern Unix system.
16:13
:p i was joking
@xiaodongjie Hi :-)
What are you doing now?
nothing
then please teach me.
about my project.
16:21
or you have a project on codeplex?
i'm just learning how to code.
what language?
python or C.
and C++
I like python :)
I do too.
16:27
@xiaodongjie are you good in python?
@xiaodongjie then why do you need teaching?
I had send a request that I join in to project at codeplex.
but no reply.
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Q: pam-auth-update does not display prompt screen or log any failure

mcgyver5~# lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise ~# dpkg -l \*pam\* | grep ii ii libpam-krb5 4.5-3 PAM module for MIT Kerberos ii libpam...

@Braiam I started working on a 1200baud modem. THAT one still had the most impact on my work; all of a sudden you did not need to go to a client but could just remotely code :D
16:37
Now Rinz on Home :D
I'm trying to decide if I like Unity or KDE better...
KDE wins by a long shot when it comes to customizability.
16:55
That's true, but I also find it slower than Unity.
17:05
@sadmicrowave depends on what you want to do. Let us assume you want to re-install after using that command you are fine
@NathanOsman SCO will kill itself >:)
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A: For compiling package facing configure error

xiaodongjieI suggest you following commands to solve this problem. apt-get build-dep vlc ./configure Ubuntu repository has also vlc. So you can build it with following command. apt-get source vlc cd vlc-<version> dpkg-buildpackage

@Rinzwind Wha...?
@NathanOsman hmm probably true but I so do -not- like that layout of it
@NathanOsman it will :D (though you need to use root and then issue it :D )
on a vanilla system it will crash after it removed the rm command :+)
@terdon plz explain this
awk '{ if (length($0) > max) {max = length($0); maxline = $0} }
and yes, I have seen someone do that once a few years ago
17:08
@Rinzwind You need the --no-preserve-root flag now.
on SCO?
What's SCO?
Unix ;-)
you said Unix not Linux ;-)
17:22
weird
I just got +5 rep :P
and no not from a question I made :D
let me check
it was from this answer askubuntu.com/questions/138472/… :+
i think you downvoted 5 answers
yeh, i already upvoted that answer.
@AvinashRaj nope :+
@AvinashRaj ah! I got it. its not from au :S
17:37
:(
Going to bed :-) BBT
@AvinashRaj Gud ni8. Sweet dreams :-) bye :-) tc:-)
bye dude :D
@Rinzwind 你好。
17:59
@Rinzwind to put my comment into context I am sitting next to the guy with the 2 finger scroll question,
I got that :D
though I was going ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh for a bit :D
could be you need a browser plugin to put it into mac style
did I add oil on the fire, you think? (hope not): meta.askubuntu.com/a/8926/115155
@don.joey do not touch my tag >:D
I am curious to see how long the edit is going to survive.
I have a score of 508 on command-line :D
18:08
nice
why don't you answer the meta question, then?
@don.joey hey I commented 1st :+
@Rinzwind rinz, that comment is not an answer, if you know how the tag works an answer would be very valuable...
I think this is a problem of semantics... many things mean the same thing.
there the reason why I will never want to be a mod :+)

But since you asked about it: I see not a lot wrong with the tag. I use it as soon as it concerns something related to CLI (and mainly when it is about commands but i will use a more specific tag if possible) Thing is that I consider this "There have been a few edit wars recently concerning" to be more a problem.

Any user that retracts/rollbacks/edits an edit from another user that has his fair amount of rep should come to chat and ask or explain why. Not just hammer around and keep rolling back and forth.
18:26
i am trying to get a home web server up and going with ubuntu 12.04, everything is installed, but when i load the local ip the public html doesn't load, nor does it load from the public ip, i cant figure out what i am doing wrong, in the tutorial i watched the public html was up on the local network from install, all it says is webpage unavailable, does anyone know what i am missing or doing wrong
what web server did you install?
what is the webroot?
I installed several LAMP stacks in my day and -always- have a "it works' HTML at the end of installation ;) @John
wanting to determine if a file exists before trying to copy it, all in one line with bash. Here is what I've got:

ls /path/to/file &>/dev/null && cp /path/to/file /some/other/file/name

any thoughts on a better way? I'm probably just overthinking it
@sadmicrowave that would be my 1st guess :D
i installed a lamp stack when i installed 12.04
18:35
@John so default webroot is /var/www/ ?
@Rinzwind yes
can you check if there is a index.html in /var/www/ and its contents if there is one?
oh! and do not forget to check the blatant obvious: does apache run? ;)
@Rinzwind although, it occurs to me that cp won't succeed if the original file doesn't exist, so I could just suppress output of the cp command and it would be essentially the same thing.... right?
(ps -ef | grep apache)
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Q: How can We Instruct New Users

E Carter YoungI love this community, and I want to help the new users here, so I pose this question in earnest: I was a new user just about a month ago, and I've gotten used to taking the criticism here with a grain of salt, but I don't want to push away new users, especially to Ubuntu, as this portal is a gr...

18:40
@Rinzwind the output is pastebin.com/xKcmBjgf
@sadmicrowave the && should not be activated if ls errors out. You might want to do 2>1 error catching though
@John oh all you need to say is "yes it is running " ;-) I always start with trusting people >:=D
@Rinzwind but 2>1 will output an error file called 1 if there are errors, and I don't want that
@sadmicrowave no no wait
18:42
yes that looks much better
that will not create a file ;) It will redirect errors and standard output to /dev/null (so no results from ls -l itself listing the file and no errors if it shows a "does not exist" notice
@Rinzwind good to go
@John did you check /var/www/ for an index.html?
yes it is there
it has the standard 'It works!'
but wont load
ok
so to confirm: what happens when you -only- type the ip address where apache runs in a browser?
18:46
@sadmicrowave As of bash 4 you can just use &> to move stderr too.
it tell me it cant load the web page
I'm not sure what you're trying to do though
@Seth he wants to copy a file if it exists and have no errors if it does not :+)
and in a one-liner too :D
@John can you check the webroot location? :)
@Rinzwind but that won't suppress from the cp command alone, i.e.:

# cp config.bak2 config.bak3 2>&1
cp: cannot stat `sshd_config.bak2': No such file or directory
Then &> /dev/null should work I'd think..
18:49
@sadmicrowave i do that in a bash script to move files from my downloads, i use '&> /dev/null' at the end to handle errors
@sadmicrowave you still need the /dev/null ;)
@sadmicrowave All you did there is reroute stderr to stdout.
@Rinzwind how do i do that
cp config.bak2 config.bak3 2>&1 >/dev/null
:)
@John did you create virtual hosts? :)
18:50
@sadmicrowave it worked for me..
cp sshd_config.bak2 bak3 2>&1> /dev/null
cp: cannot stat `sshd_config.bak2': No such file or directory
now I could get the &>/dev/null to work just fine
Try removing the space between &1 and >/dev/null.
@Rinzwind what is a virtual host and how do i do it, or how would i have done it
Just a random guess.
@Seth already tried, still no
18:53
@John those are in /etc/apache2/sites-* (if you do not know about them you probably did not ;) ) (they make it possible to host more than 1 site on 1 machine)
strange. Just using 2>/dev/null works but using 2>&1>/dev/null doesn't.
yea
which is ok I suppose. the end result is the same right? errors are suppressed
@Seth eh that is not normal?! at least... dont think so
@John check /etc/apache2/sites-available/default and look for documentroot :)
it is /var/www
then I am out of things to check :+
if you restart apache does it show any errors?

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