Ask Ubuntu General Room

Seth

03:00

You're really getting to the bottom of the barrel of excuses and my patience.

Braiam

@Seth and?

@Seth is not

Seth

@Braiam See the IRC link at the bottom of the answer.

@Braiam and stuff is going to happen if you don't start listening. Big time.

Braiam

no irc log can be over the wiki page wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes

@Seth I feel like I'm not being listened either, so what give?

Seth

@Braiam You are being listened to. Or at least, you were. Until you refused to believe people disagree with you and that you are wrong. and at least 3 of the mods have asked/told you to stop. That gives.

Braiam

@Seth I stopped several hours ago, you guys keep bringing the same issue over and over again, when I point a problem about the general and you take it to the specific

I'm only seeing the big picture and is ugly if things continue the way they are

Seth

03:07

@Braiam No, you keep forcing us to bring it up with you because you don't stop, even after having tons of warnings. This is getting old and you should really just stop it already.

@Braiam I don't care what you think you're seeing anymore. Stop.

Braiam

@Seth STOP WHAT NOW!?

I was just chilling out here and suddenly you bring up something I ought to have solved

Seth

@Braiam Stop removing version tags on version specific questions. and stop shouting.

@Braiam Excuse me? You knew it was a version specific question when you removed the tag. You knew what my, Oli's, Jorge's, terdon's, etc's opinion was and you know you have been asked and told to stop. But you haven't.

terdon

Seriously, how can a question about 14.04 releases and whether or not all flavors will be LTR not need a version specific tag? It will always be relevant to that version alone and could still be useful for historical reasons 10 years from now.

By the way @Braiam, I removed two or three version tags today and kept wishing you could see me, just to see the smile on your face :)

hbdgaf

@terdon that makes me feel all like this youtube.com/watch?v=6L6sGd0R6FI#t=590

terdon

@hbdgaf man, BB King telling someone that their blues "sound good", you can see slash melting :)

hbdgaf

03:16

ikr

terdon

And watching a red haired white boy sing the blues and do it well is a sight to behold :)

Seth

terdon misspelling LTS as LTR made me think of a comic, but all I could find was this: exisle.net/mb/index.php?/topic/64484-looking-for-an-xkcd-comic anyone seen that one?

Hey, I passed Thomas W. in reputation. FINALLY! :P

terdon

@Seth Heh, no but I'd like to. I could hide behind it.

Seth

lol

terdon

This is still my favorite xkcd though. That and the tech support secret word

I have to try that at some point. And run. Fast.

hbdgaf

03:23

To what tech support secret word are you referring? The BOFH?

I wanted this for a while...

Seth

@terdon LOL

I found out about the cut command today. I was sooo like "How could I possibly not have known about this?". It made my day.

terdon

@Seth Oh yeah, cut fold and join are brilliant!

I recently had someone ask me to go get a computer and turn it on so I could restart it. He refused to move further in the script until I said I had done that.

hbdgaf

@Seth you didn't know about cut? well awk is going to be pure skeksiness then..

Seth

@hbdgaf yeah. awk is up next.

terdon

paste is the other one. It really is very powerful when you grok the syntax

Seth

03:29

@terdon That one makes me laugh every. single. time.

hbdgaf

@terdon i lol every time i see that one in my best jinxie emphazema hee

terdon

@Seth I've actually found a similar one.

I'll call tech support and ask: "Do you know what FTP, ssh, ping or telnet are? No? OK. Please let me talk to someone who does"

This actually greatly speeds things up and I end up actually speaking to someone who knows more than I do and can help.

hbdgaf

you really want to screw with them ask the port numbers for the same. money says they don't know...

Seth

@terdon Seriously? Wow.

I'd never even thought of that.

terdon

@hbdgaf They don't know that. They tend to be random people off the street who are given a list of answers. Generally if I need to call them, I know those bloody answers already.

Seth

03:32

exactly ^^

hbdgaf

i know. they have an answer tree. it's mostly, give me someone that knows how things work so real troubleshooting can happen.

terdon

@Seth Yeah, it worked once or twice when calling my ISP with weird problem (http didn't work, other protocols did) the person I was talking to kept trying to convince me I had no internet connection while I could ping and ssh and even https perfectly well.

Seth

but as we've seen on Stack Exchange, you'd be surprised (or not) by the amount of people who don't even know how to Google an error.

hbdgaf

i've posted lmgtfy links with good answers to questions today... no really, in the last 8 hours here in chat.

terdon

Yes, which is why this kind of thing works for most people who call tech support. Hell, the first thing I ask is whether they have restarted their router.

@hbdgaf Yeah, no shit.

hbdgaf

03:33

i don't think seth was here yet at that point.

Seth

terdon

@Seth Yeah, which is when I asked that question and it shut her up and I got passed on to an engineer.

hbdgaf

^^ yes that

Seth

@hbdgaf I really hate those, because 90% of the people who use them abuse them, but sometimes it really is lmgtfy.

@hbdgaf Probably not, as I haven't seen many around AU at all.

hbdgaf

@terdon sounds like a cacheing server problem to me.

@Seth i tend to avoid them whenever possible.

Seth

03:36

which is good IMO.

terdon

Actually I think it was at the ISP's end but I don't remember.

hbdgaf

sometimes you just have to break out the "no really, you should have googled" sometimes.

Seth

true enough.

terdon

@Seth Yeah, but we got a guy here before that was really not willing to put in any effort.

hbdgaf was actually quite restrained. So was I until he called me a troll...

But don't worry, it didn't get really ugly or anything.

hbdgaf

yeah... i was all "really" when the troll word started flying around

Seth

03:37

@terdon Oh I'm sure. I've dealt with them before. It is not a fun experience.

terdon

@hbdgaf I honestly thought he meant himself!

Troll, know thyself!

hbdgaf

I didn't, but then... moves along.

Seth

@terdon If it escalates to something like that feel free to flag the message for a mod and explain. If you feel it needs stopping.

terdon

@Seth Nah, it wasn't that bad.

hbdgaf

It stopped quite abruptly once the lmgtfy came out.

terdon

03:39

:)

Seth

A lot of troubles could have been nipped early on if it had been stopped in a timely manner.

@terdon Not saying it was :)

terdon

And on the bright side, @hbdgaf finally confessed his undying love to me.

hbdgaf

Yes. Yes I did.

Seth

Just keep it in mind. Once "troll" starts flying it can get ugly fast.

terdon

Heh, way to make @Seth go and read the transcript :)

Seth

03:39

@terdon heh

@terdon I haven't.. yet!

terdon

@Seth Yeah, they're big buggers, don't want to be hit by one

hbdgaf

Yerp. I think it was only flung once, and by neither of us.

terdon

^^ S'true mum!

Seth

all cool. I didn't think it had really escalated (I'd probably have heard about it) I was just encouraging you to bump it up if needed.

terdon

Actually, give troll physiology it stands to reason you'd need to be atroll to be able to fling one around.

Seth

03:41

I trust you both ;)

terdon

@Seth Shows what you know :P

Seth

haha :P

hbdgaf

If you're really interested in the transcript it happens around here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/201?m=14937005#14937005

terdon

@hbdgaf Great, here I was protecting you, and you go and give a mod a link to the only time you used the T-word!

Seth

Oh that turned out great. Really refreshing to see it deflate that way.

hbdgaf

03:44

I used the word, but it wasn't AT a person, it was a don't use the t word use of the t word

terdon

Excuses, excuses.

hbdgaf

>.<

Seth

Anyway, I've got some JS to write. I'll be hanging around for a bit longer. Just in case the site explodes.

terdon

@Seth That sounds very disturbing. Just what is this JS supposed to do?

hbdgaf

Perform stack exhaustion from within a malformed pdf. No really... that happens.

Seth

03:47

@terdon Gather, sort, compare and handle some form inputs. Fun stuff, yeh.

Danatela

guys do you know about initramfs?

Seth

I was thinking, are .desktop files considered executable?

terdon

@Danatela Try us

@Seth Yes, just check with ls -l

Danatela

I'd like to change script there

0

Q: Change initramfs script

I made RAID 0 by mdadm'ing partition located on dmraid VIA VT6421 and Western Digital hdd. Installed Ubuntu on that RAID. Now, when I boot, I get (initramfs) ash prompt. There, I have to write mdadm --stop /dev/md1 mdadm --assemble --scan And hit Ctrl+D to resume. Then Ubuntu loads normally. ...

Seth

@terdon did that:

seth@johnson:/usr/share/applications$ ls -l zenmap.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 277 Feb 19 05:38 zenmap.desktop

That one isn't.

terdon

03:49

@Seth Huh, well then no. Actually, it makes sense, they're not run as such, they're probably sourced and the executable they point to is run. I assume that desktop file works right?

Avinash Raj

On which time did Ubuntu 14.04 will be released?

Seth

@terdon yes it does work. Guess they're just not executable.

Probably like you said.

terdon

@Danatela Hmm, sorry, don't know. If you don't get an answer here, try moving it to U&L that kind of thing is likelier to be answered there.

Seth

@AvinashRaj The 17th I think.

hbdgaf

@Seth they don't get sourced or run. they just get parsed.

Avinash Raj

03:50

time??

hbdgaf

why are you installing zenmap anyway? trying to learn nmap switches?

Seth

@hbdgaf I see.. So if a put the exec field of one .desktop to another .desktop would it parse the second you think?

terdon

@Seth yeah, come to think of it they're probably run by the gnome/unity shell so clicking on one is the equivalent of running bash script.sh which does not require that script.sh is executable.

@hbdgaf By gnome shell presumably right?

Seth

@hbdgaf I just happened to use it as an example. Sometimes zenmap is easier than namp too :P

hbdgaf

@Seth that's a recipe for mind-rape. just try it and see. there's no defined behavior for that. even C has undefined behaviors.

even if that worked, i wouldn't depend on it working in the future.

Seth

03:52

ok, won't be trying that then ;)

hbdgaf

also, I finally bought a mouse... I can finally disable this touchpad abomination that is the size of my face below the keyboard.

@terdon i'm not sure what parses .desktop files. if it works on gnome and unity, i would presume gnome-shell and the unity fork of that.

terdon

@hbdgaf Yes, probably just parsed as you said and then the shell launches the right executable.

hbdgaf

makes me wonder if there's a layer for xfce and lxde to understand them now though...

like did canonical bake something like the mime-types recognition layer but for commands/desktops in to dash.

Avinash Raj

@Seth OT askubuntu.com/questions/447478/how-to-restore-a-system

Seth

@terdon OK for U&L? --^

terdon

04:02

@Seth Sure

@Danatela it looks like you should be able to simply extract it, modify the script and recompress it. Try it, make a backup first obviously, so if it breaks you can simply copy the backup file back and be OK again.

Danatela

@terdon OK I will try

hbdgaf

@Seth i used to recommend zenmap to people as a way to learn how to use nmap by defining scans then examining the produced command.

Danatela

@terdon on 13.10 I can't even get into ash

Seth

yep. That's what I was (pretty much) doing. At the time I didn't have time to learn all of nmap. and it's manpage is kinda confusing too.

hbdgaf

sort of like using all the cisco packtracer junk to learn what ios configuration commands are. also, i'm sincerely surprised that there hasn't been a patent war over the whole ios iOS thing.

Seth

04:07

hm I've used packet tracer. It worked.

Yeah the iOS thing threw me at first.

terdon

@Danatela I am just repeating random stuff I found online, I have never tried this so don't think I know what I'm talking about. But since it's just a compressed file, you should be able to do this:

 gunzip -c initramfs-3.10-2-amd64.img | cpio -id

Then make your changes and recreate it with

find . | cpio -o | gzip -c >/boot/initrd.new.img

hbdgaf

@Seth i used it too, but i had a professor that designed his CCNA final around a rack he had. and multi-area OSPF doesn't work in packet tracer... like unsupported at all.

terdon

This is all copied from this thread: unix.com/debian/93348-change-initramfs-hand.html

Danatela

@terdon if you write that as answer, I'll upvote it

hbdgaf

@Seth automatic perfect score for pointing that out AND having the right multi-area OSPF config. he didn't even look at the rest of the config.

there were... mistakes.

terdon

04:10

@Danatela No no no no, not until you confirm it works. That's just from a random thread from 2008 and led to issues for the OP so I'm not putting my name to it until I test it :)

And I can't think of a simple way to test damn it

Ah, yes, hang on

hbdgaf

it installs a vm, or else it gets the hose again.

sorry... silence of the lambs reference.

terdon

@Danatela bugger, sorry, I can't test. I've already broken my VM once today and get a kernel panic. I'll fix it and try and test later.

Danatela

@terdon the first command works =)

terdon

@Danatela Oh, they'll both work, the question is whether the second command will create a viable initramfs. It almost certainly will, I see no reason why not but...

Man, I'm an idiot, I just remembered why my VM won't boot, cause I uninstalled the kernel!

hbdgaf

terdon

04:20

@hbdgaf :) That's what VMs are for. And I just fixed it anyway.

What is that image?

5th element!

Man, first silence of the lambs and now this, I'm getting the feeling we're about the same age.

hbdgaf

Ruby Rod aka Chris Tucker on 5th element.

terdon

Yeah, I remembered

hbdgaf

if you're profile is correct then yes. within one year of each other

terdon

@hbdgaf Yeah, just checked yours, you dated yourself.

hbdgaf

Yeah, I do that pretty consistently.

womp womp

terdon

04:23

@hbdgaf Hmm, that's either Gary Larson or Where the wild things are for me.

hbdgaf

womp womp? that's a sound effect roughly meaning bad joke

terdon

@hbdgaf Ah, I was thinking sound effect yes, but a specific one

hbdgaf

►

terdon

Yeah, gotcha :)

terdon

04:39

Oooh boy:

0

Q: Computer is totally useless now

Okay, I tried turning on my other computer this morning, And got the following error message. Error no such device edddc179-e42e-4666-8ff3-00566a57908a Entering rescue node grub rescue > - is flashing. I have had nothing but trouble trying to down load and run the live CD for this program. And e...

installation boot dual-boot grub2 hard-drive

And check out the about me in the profile.

hbdgaf

Makes me sad to be a conservative... it really does.

Avinash Raj

@terdon look at this askubuntu.com/q/447420/202806 question. in the first line it contains two fields but in the second record, it contains a single field.

2,4,5 14,9

hbdgaf

Fiscal conservative social liberal, but now we're splitting hairs. Anyway... that question is junk. You think you box is crap mail it to me postage due. It will work for me... promise. It's a bad hard drive, bad HD controller, or a bad cable. Pick one or isolate it.

Avinash Raj

so i downvoted that .

hbdgaf

I snap to a really foul mood when people have HD problems for reasons of my own. Anyway, if it has two failing HDs it's probably the cables or jumpers that got moved around for some as yet undisclosed reason. It's just yeah...no.

terdon

04:48

@AvinashRaj No it doesn't.

@AvinashRaj Ah, yes it does, OK, I see. But why would you downvote? Just ask for clarification.

I added the missing comma between 5 and 14 in your input example. Based on your output, I assume that was a typo, please clarify if it was not. — terdon 8 secs ago

Avinash Raj

i wiil revert back my downvote after the OP's reply for your comment.

hbdgaf

notes to self to have in the future a loose correlation between AvinashRaj and steeldriver

Avinash Raj

does the steel's answer will work, if the lines contains spaces also?

terdon

05:23

@AvinashRaj Yes, his answer is great!

He has given one that addresses the space specifically but I'm convinced the space was just a typo of the OP.

In any case steeldriver's answer is perfect. He's using while, not for, not using cat where it is not needed, quoting all variables, protecting himself from unexpected printf effects. It's excellent all around.

mikeserv

Hello...?

Danatela

@mikeserv hi

mikeserv

@Danatela is Michaelangela here as well?

Danatela

@mikeserv haha

I will consider to ask my brother take this nick

so, I suppose to change some hooks

mikeserv

I think that's more Arch terminology than anything else.

Danatela

05:28

which version of kernel is in Arch now?

3.14?

mikeserv

Whatever you call it, its probably just a shell function.

Yes.

Danatela

so which is the order of executing hooks?

I saw there first is /scripts/init-top

mikeserv

I would suspect that's at the top of the order then.

I really don't know - its implementation dependent and I have no Debian's.

But if you just cat them you should be able to get a feel for what they're about.

Danatela

there is no such directory: /usr/lib/initcpio :(

mikeserv

Yeah. That's Arch.

Their init compiler is called initcpio.

But that's just a shell script too.

All initramfs archives are in cpio format.

Danatela

05:36

aha

did you see the update in the question?

I can't explain more until 12 PM UTC

BTW is my decision right?

I made mdadm hoping it will be faster than just dmraid

mikeserv

They're just shell scripts. Edit them. Yes. You're right ungz | uncpio | edit |recpio |regz

Just keep a copy of an image you know works accessible in your bootloader and screw around with the other to your hearts desire. You'll be fine. You won't learn without trying anyway.

You might be barking up the wrong tree though. It might be you should be looking at udev rules. I kind of wrote the bcache arch initramfs hook for the aur - though really that amounted to just adapting the mdadm hook. Google for Arch's bcache wiki page and read the attached talk page.

Andrew

05:52

mikeserv

Doing it with udev rules would definitely be my recommendation.

Andrew

Wow Long time ago, brings back memories. Using Ubuntu 11.10 beta 1

mikeserv

You've got pink problems.

4

Andrew

I had several of them. But I guess one just survive in may backups.

Of like an Green color, and orange color... I guess this one was the best

mikeserv

best...?

Danatela

05:56

I like water effects

Andrew

For text maybe, how I did it? don't remember exactly.

mikeserv

It kinda looks like vomit effects...

Andrew

IT is the fire effect

Modified: Mon, Sep 5 2011 03:00:16 WOW!!!!

mikeserv

Shows what I know. Well, I'm going back to the Quandary Phase. You all set @Danatela? @Andrew, I shall cherish it forever.

Andrew

Bye, Just want to share it with you.

Danatela

06:28

@mikeserv thanks for the help

Nathan Osman

06:48

Has anyone heard from @jrg since April 10?

Rinzwind

@NathanOsman I have not

Nathan Osman

Nobody has.

Rinzwind

hmmm best I can find: 7 hours ago he was on twitter

jokerdino

@Seth goodreads.com/topic/list_book/116818.Babaji

Danatela

can anyone pick good question here?

I'm eager to help somebody)

Rinzwind

07:03

0

Q: Specify point release on d-i preseeding

Can I specify point release, say, "12.04.3" instead of "precise" in preseed.cfg for kickstart installation? When I specify precise in d-i mirror/suite like d-i mirror/suite precise it will install "12.04.4" which I'm not willing to.

12.04 versions release-management preseed

answer is no :=)

@Danatela hey that does not warrant a comment >:D

thing is...

Danatela

@Rinzwind why?

Rinzwind

I am wondering ... when 12.04.4 arrives where does 12.04.3 go? does it get overwritten by 12.04.4 or is there some sort of "old releases" for point releases?

@Danatela does not matter why he does not want .4 >:-DDDD

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: Is there a solution for when a system hangs on "switching to clocksource tsc" anyway?

Ok so this is exactly what I did yesterday, and what I have tried to solve the problem so far. The distribution is Ubuntu Server 12.04. What I have done just before the error appeared I added a new Upstart file in /etc/init I rebooted the system to see if the script worked The script did not w...

ubuntu boot

Ask Ubuntu Meta

07:21

0

Q: What is this notification with orange background for?

I saw this image in this answer, what is the notification with the orange background in the right top corner for?

discussion notifications

Rinzwind

@AskUbuntuMeta I CLAIM COPYRIGHT ON THAT IMAGE :=)

Avinash Raj

07:52

Avinash Raj. You have fixed my 1 year long problem!!!!!!! so many have tried now my desktop computer starts Ubuntu without the live disc. You are my hero! Thank you very much — kalhandra 28 mins ago

Yeh, i'm a hero ....

Rinzwind

tsk

Avinash Raj

tsk tsk

what's the meaning for tsk?

Rinzwind

lol

Tsk
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Look up tsk in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

Tsk or TSK may refer to:

Dental click, as in an interjection used in English to express disapproval, often spelled as "tsk" or "tut"

Avinash Raj

@Rinzwind your screenshot meta.askubuntu.com/questions/8900/…

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj yes I know :+)

he stole it! :+)

Avinash Raj

08:06

close this askubuntu.com/questions/447528/error-in-ubuntu-software-center

Rinzwind

jokerdino already did

jokerdino

yeah sorry. Was on the phone to say "yay done".

Danatela

WOW! My name is shown in "marked as duplicate!

Avinash Raj

Above 3K

Danatela

@AvinashRaj yep

however it is slightly unfair because I got back my bounty :P

Danatela

08:32

1

Q: what is "copy to pixmap" feature on compiz?

I wanna reduce my compiz effect due to lower graphic card on my netbook. Is it safe to disable "copy to pixmap" feature on my compiz? (I'm using 14.04 Trusty Tahr Daily Build)

compiz

pls correct me if I'm wrong

Rinzwind

well... somebody knows what it is about ;-)

Danatela

and nobody knows who is the one %)

fossfreedom

@Danatela - the "copy to pixmap" thing is an opengl feature I believe - its a way for drawing stuff without getting visual artifacts on the screen

there are better ways to speed compiz and unity up like disabling the animation.

Danatela

08:48

I just tried to turn it off and on and my icons were reloaded

fossfreedom

thats not surprising - the window manager probably need to refresh everything when you toggled that option

Danatela

aha

Rinzwind

see fossy knows >:)

I had an inkling :=)

Danatela

Everything I know about OpenGL it is how to draw dots =)

Aditya

Does all those tags look irrelevant? Seriously?

Rinzwind

08:58

oh but if you can draw dots you can also draw lines! and circles! and squares!

Danatela

we picked a fountain and turned it into snow with my brother))

Rinzwind

@Aditya to me they do >:) even the 14.04 seth added is technically not needed

fossfreedom

damn - tags again ... where is my wet fish?

Rinzwind

@Danatela last time we messed with a fountain a friend on mine got arrested >:) He got caught holding a brick of carbide.

@fossfreedom pick another one than a trout! :=)

Aditya

@fossfreedom Sorry to bring it.. but seriously this irked me a lot..

Rinzwind

09:00

a flat fish hurts the most if you hit with it sideways

fossfreedom

bloody big tuna

Rinzwind

tuna are too squishy. they bounce

Aditya

Anyways... @fossfreedom can we have some numbers to know if community bulletin works?

I think tagging that meta question about "when are questions about ubuntu+1 appropriate" as featured during betas should help

fossfreedom

you mean the AU newsletter?

Aditya

@fossfreedom Nah... the community bulletin >> on AU homepage below Ask Question button

questions tagged as featured on meta show up there (along with recently asked ones)

fossfreedom

09:06

None of the MODs are privy to that info on how many clicks through that. That is stack-exchange developer territory. If you want info on that raise a meta and maybe a SE dev will answer.

Aditya

@fossfreedom Okay... will do so.. Thanks :)

katya sehgal

Hello @fossfreedom

I am back on Ubuntu.

fossfreedom

good morning to you!

katya sehgal

Good morning to you too

I need help, may I bother @fossfreedom?

Rinzwind

@katyasehgal no >:-D

katya sehgal

09:12

hello @Rinzwind

Rinzwind

hello @katyasehgal :-)

katya sehgal

good to see familiar names

fossfreedom

I'm not here - I'm working - honest!

katya sehgal

okay @fossfreedom

fossfreedom

... but shoot anyway!

katya sehgal

09:12

okay, I need to connect wifi in Lenovo B490

not catching automatically

Danatela

lspci -nnk?

katya sehgal

For a brief while it connected, and now the option has disappeared

fossfreedom

"not catching" == not connecting? what do you visually see?

katya sehgal

yes, not connecting

fossfreedom

ubuntu version?

Rinzwind

09:14

psst @Danatela let fossy do this >:-D

katya sehgal

13.10 @fossfreedom

Danatela

OK

Rinzwind

pfew not 13.04 >:D

@Danatela just sit back and watch it solve or go terribly wrong _o-

fossfreedom

and yes - what is the output of danatela's terminal command

Rinzwind

(and do NOT type the ? at the end :+) )

katya sehgal

09:15

how do i copy paste, I am typing from another ubuntu system.

fossfreedom

connect via a wired connection on the laptop

katya sehgal

:-(

let me see

fossfreedom

this is also important sudo lshw -class network

when you said "it used to connect" - has there been a kernel update since it went wrong? What if you boot from an earlier kernel?

katya sehgal

no, while installing ubuntu, alongwith windows, it connected to wifi for a bit - I entered the password it connected, then it stuck and I had to restart

fossfreedom

This is a fresh 13.10 install and you havent done any updates since the install?

katya sehgal

09:19

so i installed without internet

yes, you are correct @fossfreedom

from the commands output, is there some line I can refer and tell you the value?

fossfreedom

ok - first things first - connect via a wired connect. Make sure you download and install all the suggested updates + all the kernels updates as well.

katya sehgal

okay, I will come back after trying to arrange for that

fossfreedom

... I'll be honest with you ... since 14.04 is just 4 days away and if you havent done anything to your install, you might just want to consider installing 14.04

save bandwidth and all that.

Avinash Raj

@foss did you know the 14.04 release time?

fossfreedom

nobody knows except the canonical release manager

Aditya

09:24

@AvinashRaj It generally comes around 9-9.30pm IST..

fossfreedom

The latest I've seen it was 1700 UTC - earlies was around 1100 UTC

Avinash Raj

We may arrange a contest of "whom will be the first person to download and install Ubuntu 14.04 final release?"

fossfreedom

I'll let you all play - I'll update my laptop when the first point release is made in august

Avinash Raj

ohh, i forget about updation.

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj that will be me >:)

I have a cron job running to check for updates every 10 minutes >:D

Avinash Raj

09:33

wow.

Rinzwind

lol

fossy!! he is too gullible :-X he is no fun :*(

fossfreedom

let the kids play :P

Rinzwind

it is never a good thing to upgrade the moment it is released :D

Avinash Raj

fire this askubuntu.com/questions/447560/…

Rinzwind

5

Q: How to monitor, who is pinging me?

I need to know who is pinging me on my network. Is it possible to monitor all ICMP packets?

networking ping network-monitoring

I would just PONG back :P

@AvinashRaj done!

fossfreedom

09:40

@Rinzwind - you scared him so much that he deleted it!

Rinzwind

lol

I am running away from Luis :-)

why is Oli so close to you fossy?

fossfreedom

me - I'm too busy - have been for many months. Oli obviously is "less" busy :P

Rinzwind

me too :=) but I do try to keep up with AU

fossfreedom

Me have rediscovered my first (computing) love - coding. Have been busy with various projects

Minato Namikaze

Ask Ubuntu Meta

09:57

0

Q: Can we have some click through stats for Community Bulletin?

We have a section called "Community Bulletin" on the landing page of Ask Ubuntu which contains links to events (like Moderator elections), featured meta posts, recently held meta discussions along with some old meta discussions once a while. Can we have some statistics about the click through ...

support community-bulletin

Danatela

did anybody update Gigabyte EP43-S3L to coreboot?

Rinzwind

10:13

@MinatoNamikaze a dutch guy just found a way into akamai where they claimed to have fixed the heartbleed bug. So the story continues >:)

Minato Namikaze

@Rinzwind akamai, the cdn?

Rinzwind

10:27

Current Date Number? >:)

akamai had the briljant idea of making their own openssl......... turns out they only implemented 3 of the 6 requirements for rsa enconding. so serves them right.

so they fixed heartbleed but with the attention to this bug more came to the surface :-D

blade19899

Not sure if removing ibus is a good idea, and his source is a dead link

Rinzwind

10:42

ha @Danatela :-) askubuntu.com/questions/447580/…

Danatela

:)

Rinzwind

and another 15 rep >:)

my 3rd accepted for today

Avinash Raj

11:13

working on this askubuntu.com/a/447604/202806 for around 4 hours.

Aditya

@NathanOsman @Seth, just noticed that both of you have your display names inverted upside down on Meta.SE... Do you have some treaty running between yourselves?

Danatela

12:14

grr who upvoted this: askubuntu.com/a/447589/171636?

Rinzwind

12:40

there is more wrong there @Danatela WUBI is supported afaik. It was dropped for 1 release but it came back iirc

Danatela

@Rinzwind OK

Rinzwind

lol ->

0

Q: Alternative to Wubi Installer (without cd/usb install)

So hey guys basically I'm using a really old computer now and I'm interested in getting linux on my com. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not exactly a linux newbie, (though admittedly i'm not a pro either...I used to be able to code and shit but i forgot everything now) but here's my problem My com...

installation lubuntu wubi

getting a new computer is probably cheaper timewise :P

Transcript for