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kalina

10:00

@Oli I didn't say he hasn't lost reputation, I'm saying he hasn't lost enough reputation - I flagged multiple posts at around +10, so he should have lost at least 500 rep, and lost about 250

Rinzwind

OLI!

kalina

@Rinzwind O_O

Rinzwind

its on -3 already >:) let's see how quickly Oli is today >:D

kalina

it's already gone

Rinzwind

ha 31 seconds

I have seen 3 seconds once so that is slow

lol

s p a m ....

FEichinger

10:09

@Rinzwind Well, that is a surefire way to get your account deleted!

Journeyman Geek

You guys are too fast ;p

Rinzwind

YOU? Or just ME? :=)

Journeyman Geek

YOU PEOPLE!

Rinzwind

Now what is it :=) 1st it is guys so Kalina is out. Now it is people.

Rinzwind

10:59

got you stumped? >:)

Qasim

hi

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: when an account got deleted?

When an askubuntu account got deleted? I know if the user does something wrong,his account got deleted.please list out the wrong things that we don't do.

Radu Rădeanu

Hello there!

Rinzwind

hey Radu :)

Radu Rădeanu

Does someone know when will start moderator election this year?

i'm just curious :D

Rinzwind

11:06

Here askubuntu.com/election

extrapolate the data and predict it >:)

WAIT only 240 voted?

oh and looking at the data I would say it should have already started >:D

Radu Rădeanu

I sow that page, but it's referring only to the last 3 years

yep, this I was thinking... it should be already started

fossfreedom

there is no guarantee that an election is run every year. SE makes its own decision whether to run a contest.

Radu Rădeanu

@fossfreedom aha, this make sense, thanks for clarification

Rinzwind

Then again we do not need more >:)

since we got @fossfreedom :=D

Radu Rădeanu

@Rinzwind of course :)

fossfreedom

11:12

shucks ... you are nice - throw you a virtual cookie.

Rinzwind

oooh I"ll have me a virtual cookie. Yummy :-)

AU seems sluggish

kalina

chat is starting to lag for a lot of people

could be an outage on the way

Rinzwind

main page loads slow too. changing pages is slow too.

kalina

I'm not actually experiencing any issues

are you guys in mainland Europe per chance?

Rinzwind

I am

fossy is UK iirc

FEichinger

11:19

@Rinzwind Well, remember we got wonderful "threats of DDoS".

kalina

could be something network level

hbdgaf

@FEichinger we got more threats than that... just saying

Rinzwind

naa Oli is editing tags _O-

FEichinger

@hbdgaf Well, yeh, but still.

Rinzwind

lol

someone answers, gets a downvote. complains in comment.... the result: another downvote O

funny how that goes :D

kalina

11:56

ooOOOooo, Monday morning finishes in 4 minutes

FEichinger

@kalina And then you only have five more hours to go, yay!

kalina

4 hours 52 minutes

FEichinger

Almost there!

kalina

4 hours 50 minutes

FEichinger

If you give a status report every other minute now, I'll put you on ignore.

kalina

12:22

4 hours 36 minutes

yes, I can't math

thus, I intend to leave 2 minutes early

FEichinger

That's not how that works.

kalina

it is

FEichinger

But I'll excuse the math error anyway.

kalina

it's my game, I make the rules

FEichinger

@kalina I'm fairly certain it's your boss's game and rules ... :P

kalina

12:24

boss-free day

FEichinger

...

Okay, fine, you win.

blade19899

k

kalina

k

FEichinger

k

... Wait, now we're racist.

Braiam

how so?

FEichinger

12:30

@Braiam Place the letters after one another. Read it aloud.

blade19899

People I mentioned this yesterday, but I wanted to mention this again. A while ago, we were having some spam waves, do to the distraction we didn't answer the question, that were getting spam A's. I checked my flags, and saw some of them are completely forgotten, i tried to bring attention to them, by editing them, but am not always here so other Q/A that were getting spamed in my absence may still be forgotten some where.

My suggestion is, check your flags, and try to improved some of the Q's or answer them.

Should this ^ be posted on meta? :/

BAM: meta.askubuntu.com/q/8265/36315

Done

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12:46

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Q: Forgotten questions do to spam waves

A while ago, we were having some spam waves, do to the distraction, we didn't answer the question, that were getting spam A's. I checked my flags, and saw some of them are completely forgotten, I tried to bring attention to them, by editing them. But, am not always here so other Q/A that were g...

discussion support

kalina

13:01

ewww

@blade19899 please edit the title

it should be "due", not "do"

blade19899

@kalina Done.

kalina

you're causing me severe irreversible emotional stress because I can't edit it myself! :p

now I need to find a nice spa to relax in and recover

blade19899

@kalina HAHAH! my bad

@kalina Can i join? :/

kalina

phew

cute, you want to join me at a spa

no possible innuendo in that

blade19899

@kalina None whatsoever. Just want to relax :)

kalina

13:04

;p

blade19899

:)

Rinzwind

anyone got a text editor that can load 900Mb?

gedit seems to choke on it _O-

blade19899

sublimetext

Wait 900mb

hhhmmm

Try it out? :/

The chat history is funny as hell here xD

Rinzwind

downloading gVim >:)

blade19899

vi - just saying :P

Rinzwind

13:08

hey I got them using Ubuntu... I am keeping them away from vi as long as possible >:)

Braiam

@Rinzwind emacs do...

blade19899

chat.stackexchange.com/users/107850/user242961

Ehm ^?

Test the New Firefox Sync on Nightly Release Channel

"We are testing a new version of Firefox Sync on the Nightly release channel. The new Firefox Sync enables you to safely and easily take your browsing data (including bookmarks, open tabs and passwords) between devices with complete end-to-end encryption, and now has an even easier way to setup the service and add multiple devices."

Oli

@Rinzwind That spam flag... Why is it spam?

blade19899

Linked answer to a compile howto... on a mac?

Rinzwind

@Oli which one? >:)

Oli

13:21

@Rinzwind The one about managing Ubuntu from XP

Rinzwind

eh I marked that spam?!

hope not :X

off topic, not about ubuntu. but maybe I mixed it up _O-

Oli

@Rinzwind Yeah, I've cleared it (not sure how that'll show up at your end) but I thought it was a little odd.

Rinzwind

if so sorry :D

Oli

No worries, I just thought I had missed something

Rinzwind

naaa too many idiots on my end disrupting my AU experience

editting an 900 Mb text file is fun :X damn this thing is swapping like crazy

Oli

13:24

@Rinzwind Bliss (technically a hex editor) is crazy good at editing huge files.

Rinzwind

I am trying gVim. Was the 1st one I found

yay I got the part I needed

OK it is official. I got clients that have not so smart people working for them

Thomas W.

13:41

this needs burning as spam

in case you all want to flag it

blade19899

Huh. How can a 1 rep user join this room?

Thomas W.

@blade19899 anyone can "join" the room

you need 20 rep to talk though

blade19899

Ah. Thanks

@ThomasW. that sounded like an interesting read. so i saved it

Lol that name he used is from a senator xD

Thomas W.

@blade19899 It's also spam so it should still be flagged

blade19899

@ThomasW. First thing i did ;)

then i saved it

Ah, what a depressing love story, so hart warming and hart ranching. And also bullshit.

lol

kalina

13:59

Americans. That is all.

blade19899

@kalina HOLY CRAP, THAT WAS FUNNY!

Tim Post

14:15

@kalina 'MURICA! We don't speak no language but Inglish.

kalina

@TimPost WHY ARE YOU IN HERE?

GET OUT

*points to the door*

Tim Post

@kalina Because Hitler, that's why.

kalina

ahem, I mean, oh hai thur Mr Post!

Good day to you?

Oh, are you finally banning the schizophrenic guy?

Journeyman Geek

@TimPost: and the swasticas?

kalina

Mr "I'm here to redeem myself" "brb logging in as hitler"

Tim Post

14:16

Oh nothing finally about it, we've been actively chasing these bastards out for a few days.

Journeyman Geek

(Hm, Hitler and the Swastikas. Totally a band name)

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kalina

it's one guy, using TOR

Tim Post

@kalina Reason to believe it's more than one.

kalina

@TimPost one mo

ok, it's outside of my power to find the room

checks history

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek They have been seen for thousands of years as a symbol for good luck :=) I do not let 5 years of idiocy spoil my luck

Journeyman Geek

14:18

@Rinzwind: its all about how you use it ;p

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek sure is!

same as with names! someone like Tim Post should be a postmaster on stack

Journeyman Geek

Trolls are one of those things I never understand

kalina

@TimPost room 12771

Rinzwind

@JourneymanGeek you do not understand little, ugly green dudes?

Journeyman Geek

yeah ;p

I thought they were little fleshtoned dudes with funny hair tho

Rinzwind

14:21

well they are 1. little 2. green 3 ugly. What is not to understand?

kalina

@TimPost in particular, message 13519802

Journeyman Geek

But one must understand zee motivation

kalina

@JourneymanGeek "for the lulz"

lots of people accuse me of trolling but I don't see it like that at all

I just see it as having fun without the intention of hurting anybody

whereas trolling ignores the "without the intention of hurting anybody"

if I ever actually upset anybody it bothers me quite a bit

Tim Post

@kalina Well fancy that

kalina

@TimPost I know, how do I always end up at the epicenter of trouble?

I swear, I had absolutely nothing to do with any of it

I was just being friendly to somebody who seemed miserable

Tim Post

14:24

There's also been an uptick of other kinds of abuse, some involving chat .. so I'm kind of planting myself in a few spots

@kalina It could be your perfume / deoderant .. have you tried changing brands?

kalina

oh noes, TimSpyPost

lol

Journeyman Geek

@kalina: for once, its not your fault.

kalina

@JourneymanGeek hey, it's rarely completely my fault

Tim Post

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I'M READY!

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Java NullPointer Exception for Sencha CMD

I've been trying to solve this problem for a few weeks now and it just occured to me, I might be asking the wrong question. I am learning and developing building Sencha Touch 2 applications on my Ubuntu web server. You need an utility called Sencha CMD, which utilizes Java, to execute specific c...

ubuntu java

Avinash Raj

14:39

@Rinzwind i had seen the questions like "how to create a bootable ubuntu disk on mac.I'm trying to create but it shows this error".I think this type of questions are solved here.

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@AvinashRaj be patient and understanding on them like they would be on thou

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj The same question with "windows" instead of "fedora" gets closed.

Avinash Raj

@Rinzwind ok :)

2

Rinzwind

and Fedora is different than Ubuntu ;-)

Abdallah - الله أكبر

Hello, my name is Abdallah Ibn el Amir. Nice to meet you brothers

Rinzwind

14:45

I got 1 brother and he is called Maurice :=)

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@Rinzwind We in Islam have brothers everywhere :) Anyway I'm from Tehran, Iran. Is somebody from there as well?

@AvinashRaj where are you from?

Braiam

16 hours ago, by fossfreedom

weird question - lets not try to make people uncomfortable with such direct personal questions.

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@Braiam which question?

lets try to be peaceful from the beginning

is there uncomfortability in asking where someone is from?

kalina

yes

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@kalina ping the right person so I know who you're talking too

kalina

14:57

for a new user you're awfully well versed in how our systems work, what is the name of your other account?

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@kalina I read the faq carefully before coming here as I do in other places.

kalina

cool, nice to see somebody reads our FAQs

Abdallah - الله أكبر

I don't know what you're talking about anyway

Rinzwind

@Abdallah-اللهأكبر Netherlands :=)

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@Rinzwind nice, I have a cousin living there

he's still waiting for an european identity card and passport, so he can move to the USA

he said he needs still 1 and half year of "fabrik werken"

to get it

I assume that's Factory work right?

Rinzwind

15:02

@Abdallah-اللهأكبر yes but it is in German ;-) in Holland it would be "fabriek werk" :=)

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@Rinzwind well he said that to me in a voice call, so didn't really know how to write it :)

Rinzwind

:D :D :D

Abdallah - الله أكبر

;)

arab, turkish and afghani people usually go to Holland or Germany so they can have a passport instead of trying to get a VISA

I'm thinking to do something like that, as I've a nuclear project there in USA

(I work as a nuclear engineer)

don't know if the degree here in Tehran is the same over there

but well, sorry for the long poem, I'll stop here

:)

Tim Post

SourceForge is getting increasingly harder to use. Now I can't even switch mirrors when one is down, it just redirects me to the 'thanks for downloading now look at more ads' page.

Trying to grab an installer for the GTK runtime for Windows so I can use BlueFish

I remember being delighted to see links to SourceForge in my results. Too bad, really.

Braiam

I haven't downloaded anything from SF from long time... sad to hear that

Tim Post

15:14

They found something that worked and stopped building on what people like - they focused on targeting ads better instead. That's understandable, they are a business and need to make money, but now they're like this relic that you're occasionally forced to use once in a while rather than the pioneer that they were.

Rinzwind

@TimPost it is becomming a malware site :X

Tim Post

That's just unfortunate.

Rinzwind

Ah well Windows is riddled with that so SF might get even more popular :X

@AvinashRaj YOU are to blame for this

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Q: Burning Ubuntu 12.04 ISO on DVD in Fedora 12

Further to my earlier question the following Error log is copied: Checking session consistency (brasero_burn_check_session_consistency brasero-burn.c:1848) BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_get_action BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_get_action BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_set_output_size_f...

burning

Tim Post

what is that I don't know what

Rinzwind

fedora so not our problem @TimPost :)

Tim Post

15:26

The funny part is when people email us questions. They go to the site, see that gigantic list of questions and giant ask question button, get all the way to the bottom of the page and click the contact link instead.

Half the time, they're actually good questions!

Braiam

BraseroLibburn syncing cache
BraseroLibburn Writing
BraseroLibburn called brasero_job_set_dangerous
BraseroLibburn called brasero_job_set_current_action
BraseroLibburn Async SYNCHRONIZE CACHE succeeded after 0.1 seconds
BraseroLibburn Something went wrong
BraseroLibburn called brasero_job_error
BraseroLibburn finished with an error
BraseroLibburn asked to stop because of an error

nice error... "Something went wrong"

Rinzwind

hey it is better than showing NOTHING :=)

plus the other lines explain what >:)

or should

Braiam

"Async SYNCHRONIZE CACHE succeeded after 0.1 seconds" !?!?!?!!

Rinzwind

found a solution on GENTOO forums

"Disabling libburn solves my problem. According to developers on bugzilla, this USE is not recommended...."

9 out of 10 times is it the disc that is the problem :X

Braiam

@Rinzwind so... totally drop that and use jQuery, mm?

Rinzwind

15:33

or just stop and become a professional fisher

canonical is going to nix nautilus :D

vasa1

16:13

Oh dear.

Avinash Raj

dupe

Mateo

16:36

@Rinzwind yeah!!

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

16:57

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Q: Why does a disk clone using dd take up more space on the target than the source image?

I'm doing some Android development on Ubuntu 11.10. I'm building a set of SD card and eMMC card Android images using a Bash script. Due to Android's idiosyncrasies, I have several file system images that need to be copied to the target card. There are several lines in my script to copy over th...

ubuntu dd android

Braiam

a little push askubuntu.com/q/414604/169736

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to beat grub2 into submission?

I have tried grub2 on different Ubuntu releases (12.04 and 13.04) on several machines and no matter what I do I can't get it to behave. It seems like a great idea (abstracting away configuration files through a CLI), but it really does not work for me. Here's a simple example: $ grub-set-defaul...

ubuntu grub2 boot-loader

vasa1

17:12

I'm sorry to be such a nuisance but I think I've come across another case of copy/paste. I've flagged it giving brief details. Let's see what happens since flagging rather than alerting the general users (or getting their opinions) seems to be the preferred way.

The answer I'm referring to has two download links to software both of which gave me a 404 which is not too surprising because the article from which I think the copying was done is from 2008.

Tim Post

17:40

This day is all out of sorts. Now I've managed to ruin a pot of tea. Really, a pot of tea.

I should definitely not touch anything critical for the rest of the day.

Braiam

sends @TimPost away with 3 days vacation

Abdallah - الله أكبر

0

Q: CDN has been slow for the past few weeks

I've been experiencing long load times on the network (over 10 seconds), caused by requests to the CDN. This has been going on for about two weeks now. $ tracert cdn.sstatic.net Tracing route to sstatic.net.cdn.cloudflare.net [190.93.247.58] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms

support cdn

Tim Post

@Abdallah-اللهأكبر Are you seeing the same thing?

A few people wrote to us about it, but upon examining the traceroute, it was always slowing down well before the border routers at the CDN.

Abdallah - الله أكبر

yes, it's still quite slow. Even from Tehran

(Iran)

I worked around this with caching and such, but don't know about other users

Tim Post

@Abdallah-اللهأكبر Would it be an imposition to ask you to email me a traceroute? My address is [email protected]

Abdallah - الله أكبر

17:55

@TimPost one moment

Tim Post

Thank you kind sir :)

The good thing is you don't hit the CDN for very much (bytes or requests) once you're cache primed, but we use it to be faster, so ... it really needs to accomplish that :)

Lucio

18:11

@Braiam flaged and voted

@FEichinger then why you complain?

Instead you can say "I love how it works now and do not want to change it never" :)

Seth

@Rinzwind noooooo!

Abdallah - الله أكبر

1 	<1 ms 	<1 ms 	<1 ms 	213.239.224.97

2 	  *	*	* 	Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung
	hostr3.juniper2.rz13.aljumii.ir 	213.239.224.65 	ir 	13.601 ms
	hostr2.juniper1.rz13.aljumii.ir 	213.239.224.33 	ir 	12 ms
3 	core22.aljumii.ir 	213.239.245.121 	ir 	0.239 ms 	2.1 ms 	2.9 ms
4 	core12.aljumii.ir 	213.239.245.214 	ir 	2.823 ms 	2.818 ms 	2.808 ms
5 	juniper4.rz2.aljumii.ir 	213.239.245.26 	ir 	2.796 ms 	3.018 ms 	2.784 ms
6 	te0-0-2-1.nr21.b040138-0.nue01.atlas.cogentco.com 	149.6.158.9 	us 	50.406 ms 	700.384 ms 	5.374 ms

Seth

@jokerdino Can you tell me what slowbanned got banned for?

Abdallah - الله أكبر

didn't know it would get so messed up on chat..

Seth

Or is that a secret?

@Abdallah-اللهأكبر select all the text and click the "fix formatting" button

Braiam

18:19

@Seth fixed font* D:

Seth

Oh, yeah. Fixed font. Right.

Oh, almost forgot why I came

Abdallah - الله أكبر

don't worry I got it

Seth

dupe: askubuntu.com/questions/414951/…

@Abdallah-اللهأكبر Cool :)

If you're in the US, this is a hilarious

Abdallah - الله أكبر

@Seth not really, there is an issue with the cdn. Browsing Stack Exchange is very slow, at least here in Iran

but I don't think it's only here

0

Q: CDN has been slow for the past few weeks

I've been experiencing long load times on the network (over 10 seconds), caused by requests to the CDN. This has been going on for about two weeks now. $ tracert cdn.sstatic.net Tracing route to sstatic.net.cdn.cloudflare.net [190.93.247.58] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms

support cdn

@Seth Iran :)

Seth

Oh interesting.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

18:22

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Q: Is it possible to install a linux desktop environment from a live cd?

My question is about Linux in general but lets suppose my ubuntu isn't working property, booting in tty or whatever. I have no internet connection but I have ubuntu live cd. Is it possible to reinstall the desktop environment from live cd?

linux ubuntu desktop desktop-environment livecd

Braiam

little push askubuntu.com/q/414604/169736?

Abdallah - الله أكبر

I'm a nuclear engineer and work in the programming field too, so being able to workaround it for myself, but not everyone is so savvy

I'm going to do the work for them if necessary

FEichinger

@Lucio We need neither more mods (because we sure as hell have enough for a site this size), nor temporary mods (because that is just ridiculous and bound to cause mayhem).

We need to get the mods we already have to be more active.

As a matter of fact, we need to get the whole community more active.

We need voters, we need experts, we need active folks.

Seth

@Braiam Why do we have mint still?

Braiam

@Seth ask @Oli... I was about to make a meta Q to remove that darn tag already...

more than half are closed or has some close votes

Abdallah - الله أكبر

18:29

Is there a reason if the sites in this network are not responsive? no need?

Seth

@Abdallah-اللهأكبر There's always a reason that something isn't working right ;)

Ahh, that type of responsive.

I misunderstood.

I guess that's a question for the developers.

They have a mobile site though.

Abdallah - الله أكبر

yeah, other notable sites such as Facebook follow the same line. Maybe it's because whatever device is accessing the website it still downloads the "media queries" and that's the culprit, size. Separate sites don't have this problem. Again, I'm supposing it's like that.

I wanted to ask this question on meta but maybe it's not worth the time :)

Sorry brothers, the duty calls. Will be back soon.

Rinzwind

@Seth I like my software working left

Seth

19:16

Unclear: askubuntu.com/questions/414968/terminal-lock-no-out

@Rinzwind Nautilus works just fine for me.

Seth

19:42

What do we do with this?

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Q: “operating system not found ” after installing ubuntu 13.04

I successful installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop with USB key. But after I reboot I get this error "operating system not found" I used boot-repair and it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858880/ I think I probably messed up with the partitioning. Can anyone give me some help?

grub2 grubrescue boot-repair

13.04 is EOL now, but closing it is only going to leave him in a mess.

Abdallah - الله أكبر

20:31

libcom.org/library/…

what do you think about that?

Abdallah - الله أكبر

20:42

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Q: (Disclaimer: Normal users ignore this question. Moderators, move this to meta.) Why did my reputation got from 42 to 3 without an apparent reason?

I noticed that my reputation got from 42 to 3 on my last login, this without reason. Can somebody competent explain what happened? I also see now that the question I answered is deleted, why? Not that is such a big deal, just want to know the reason.

support

@TimPost @Oli

Abdallah - الله أكبر

20:56

does the Arrow's impossibility apply here?

Arrow's impossibility theorem

In social choice theory, Arrow’s impossibility theorem, the General Possibility Theorem, or Arrow’s paradox, states that, when voters have three or more distinct alternatives (options), no rank order voting system can convert the ranked preferences of individuals into a community-wide (complete and transitive) ranking while also meeting a specific set of criteria. These criteria are called unrestricted domain, non-dictatorship, Pareto efficiency, and independence of irrelevant alternatives. The theorem is often cited in discussions of election theory as it is further interpreted by the G...

can this be posted on meta?

hi @kenn was you who downvoted the question above?

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