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Seth

00:00

@hbdgaf Yeah, I know :)

We probably wont' know for a while..

Braiam

@Seth want to start a campain to remove the darn text?

Seth

I'm sure you won't like my lack of patriotism.. but I'm done dealing with tags that moderators should [get] remove[d].

It's too frustrating D:

hbdgaf

Does balefire exist on SE?

Seth

balefire?

hbdgaf

Robert Jordan reference. Completely destroying something's existence throughout its entire history, so the people that touched it over time are somewhat damaged by the removal since something that never existed is eating at their perception of the universe.

Seth

00:06

SE does have it, but only CMs and devs can actually do it.

and they only accept requests from moderators for the most part.

(tbh I'm a little burned trying to deal with these tags, so for now, I'm just done)

hbdgaf

I wasn't suggesting it. I meant it as more of a joke. In the Robert Jordan universe for Wheel of Time, it was like - oh no, don't do that it, forbidden. So the hero and villain must both do it, obviously.

Seth

oh ok. lol to the second part.

Braiam

@Oli @jokerdino @fossfreedom @jrg @bruno @rolandixor can we get this 3 tags burminated? the community will spend too much time going through all the questions that have it just to remove it meta.askubuntu.com/questions/7465/…

hbdgaf

is there a captcha i'm unaware of?

Braiam

same with paste

Seth

00:09

goes to upvote meta post, "Can't upvote own posts" O_o

Braiam

is funny that Jorge comment gets 4 upvotes and the question only 1 :/

Seth

IKR

hbdgaf

IAMA Sockpuppet

49 8

Braiam

O_O

hbdgaf

I've never ever used it for voting though.

Seth

00:11

@hbdgaf No kidding lol. I do have a sock.. but that would be evil >:D

Braiam

00:27

@Seth me understand little grasshopper ;)

I couldn't help but comment this:

Don't hear anyone else! The answer is 42!!! — Braiam 29 secs ago

hbdgaf

Crap...that thing needs some napalm

Nathan Osman

01:32

I have a sock.

FlackBot, The Interwebs

142 1 4

hardware-recommendation launchpad video

...and...

Charlie the Excellent

88 4

downloads installation

But I think I lost the password to Charlie.

hbdgaf

i lost the password to iama too. i wonder if jokerdino still has it

@NathanOsman omg, you were active in hardware-recommendation?

Nathan Osman

FlackBot was. He asked a single question.

Journeyman Geek

01:57

lol

I have one too actually

Aibobot, The Internet

56 4

java kiosk linux usb

naturally its a robot dog

karel

@Braiam It's looks to me like this guy has a problem using VirtualBox.

0

Q: Installation problem Ubuntu 13.10

When I do I remove the drive C but does not allow one to remove the driver C. While the drive can choose to delete it but it does not indicate the drive configuration to remove the problem. Where is it? See the photo below.

installation drivers partitioning windows-7

hbdgaf

@JourneymanGeek it has no hat. i'm disappointed.

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf: yeah, I'll fix t hat later.

Braiam

@karel good catch, but still, I don't see how is Ubuntu fault :(

karel

@Braiam Maybe not, but someone could tell him that it would be easier to install Ubuntu if he started from scratch in a new virtual machine, so I voted to leave the question open anyway.

karel

02:15

@Braiam The question has been put on hold as unclear. I want to answer it with my "new VM in VBox" answer, so I nominated to reopen it.

karel

02:26

@ThomasW. Hi

Thomas W.

... I'm regretting a statement i made before...

yesterday, by Thomas W.

@jokerdino but i am by nature an evil bloodsucking vindictive person who rains down evil upon bad people...

@karel Hello.

hbdgaf

LoT you're not bloodsucking or vindictive.

Thomas W.

@hbdgaf you haven't seen me as a chat moderator on IRC

has a reputation for being evil there

Nathan Osman

IRC is slowly dying.

At least, I'd like to think it is.

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman 'cept it isn't

:P

Nathan Osman

02:40

I use it less.

hbdgaf

I can't tell you how many OSS projects have a "problem? irc channel blah blah on freenode" or their own server or something else

Braiam

@karel well, that is for voters to decide ;)

Nathan Osman

Don't we have elections coming up soon here on AU?

Braiam

if you want you can add a comment for the voters about how is OP problem solved

jrg

Potentially.

Nathan Osman

02:41

@jrg Potentially?

jrg

They don't tell us about them

they just happen

Nathan Osman

I thought last time we came to the conclusion they were annual?

I think we had this discussion before.

Braiam

@NathanOsman we are the 3rd site with most questions/day, I'm not surprised we get SO get 15mods, math and AU 12 mods

and 3rd in visits too :(

jrg

i think they might be annual at this point.

but i dunno

Nathan Osman

Anyway, I'm looking forward to asking those awkward open-ended questions that make the candidates pause for a few moments trying to come up with some elaborate speech that passively covers the "idea" behind the question.

jrg

02:45

i don't have it circled on my calendar.

yet.

Nathan Osman

...you know - the kind interviewers love to ask to make potential job candidates sweat :P

hbdgaf

if the interviewer makes you sweat, you either weren't the right candidate or you're interviewing for the wrong company.

jrg

it was interesting

I've only interviewed for a job twice.

the job i have right now was more of they came to me because of work i was doing elsewhere

and said "Yo. Notbad.jpg. Wanna job?"

3

hbdgaf

i've been told i interview well. i've only ever made it to the table once and failed to take the job.

jrg

so i didn't so much have an interview as I had a out-of-the-blue offer. But, I wish they had bothered with the formality, i feel odd that I'm the only person on the team that wasn't original, that wasn't interviewed.

(everyone after me has been interviewed)

hbdgaf

02:52

at least you know they like you...

jrg

@hbdgaf see, that is one of the best/worst "problems" to have...?

Braiam

@jrg all the pressure?

hbdgaf

i wouldn't complain about being a favorite. it makes you some enemies, but would you have wanted them as friends anyway?

jrg

it's actually kind of interesting

i have been given the projects that we all voted on as "most likely to fail", because they like me.

so far i've pulled them all off except one.

and i still have a chance at that. :P

so it sounds like I have a lot of goodwill capital to burn...

hbdgaf

you should have a winning charlie sheen poster somewhere

jrg

02:55

@hbdgaf that's my xmas gift to my side of the office.

hbdgaf

srsly?

jrg

Yup. I will put that up.

hbdgaf

I've found that bosses tend to like me because I can deliver on a deadline, but that it burns me out delivering on increasing deadlines...because I haven't failed yet. So, I wind up leaving.

Braiam

sometimes one have to say "no" ;)

jrg

I tend to be very straightforward.

I take my internal estimate, multiple by 2-3, and then I say "This is when it will be ready".

They want it sooner? I trim things until it'll fit.

Means I surprise everyone.

hbdgaf

02:59

Fair enough to both. I don't say no though. It's one of those, if you're a push me until I break companies, I don't need to be working here.

jrg

Yes.

I always am pessimistic about the amount of time I will spend on something.

unless it's release day

at which point I try to be as accurate as I can

hbdgaf

I always say "This is soonest. These are the features I want to put in. These are the features I must have. This is probable. This is latest."

It's usually a push to production at soonest though.

:(

Braiam

well, cya guys, Morpheus awaits...

hbdgaf

at least somebody's knocking. just follow the white rabbit and see how it turns out

Nathan Osman

My estimates seem to be consistently out by a factor of 2.5x.

Of course, you know the rule:

> "Projects always take twice as long as you think - even if you take this rule into account."

2

hbdgaf

03:21

I just have to fix this one more bug before I can start working on deployment issues.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

03:56

0

Q: Backing up the look of a desktop

I am wondering if a particular desktop look that user creates is saved somewhere in the configuration files and can be backed up for debian and ubuntu based distros? I mean taskbars, panes, icons and their order, theme etc. When it comes to software, I found out that it can be easily backed up w...

ubuntu linux-mint backup desktop

Seth

05:01

Close this: askubuntu.com/questions/386823/…

Nathan Osman

05:21

The new StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ is starting to grow on me.

Nathan Osman

06:55

I have a page that doesn't look right in IE using a hodge-podge of CSS hacks.

Lo and behold - it passes the W3C validator.

This means one of two things:

- IE isn't following the standard

- I'm doing something that results in undefined behavior

You'd think vertically centering a stupid <div> on the page would be easy.

3

It isn't.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: grub-probe error while installing to ZFS root with separate boot

I tried to set up Arch Linux on a ZFS root following the wiki guide. Except, to avoid some partitioning, I outsourced boot to an ext4-formatted USB stick. Maybe this change has implications I am not aware of? Pool creation and pacstrap install worked fine, then I changed root into the destination...

ubuntu zfs

Nathan Osman

What makes this even weirder is that my copy of IE 11 renders it correctly. But nobody else's does.

Goes to the corner and cries softly...

I have IE 10 on another machine here... time for a test.

kalina

07:13

23

Q: New top bar quick reference guide / Where has the link to <X> gone?

Over the last 24 hours - since the new top bar has been rolled out - a number of different people, established and new users alike, have asked questions on where a specific link has disappeared to with the new top bar design. Where has the link to <X> gone?

support top-bar

Mateo

08:40

@NathanOsman two other areas on either side that are a % to center your div?

Ask Ubuntu Meta

09:54

0

Q: Can the bit.ly software centre icons be updated?

I was editing a question when I noticed that it used the outdated software centre icon (example). It was using the https://bitly.com/software-large image as I'm sure many more answers are as well. Can this bit.ly link (and /software-small) be updated with the new icon? Is it possible just to bu...

feature-request image

Ask Ubuntu Meta

10:20

0

Q: Community Promotion Ads - 2014

It's the time of the year again, namely it is December 2013, and so we shall now refresh our Community Promotion Ads for the new year. What are Community Promotion Ads? Community Promotion Ads are community-vetted advertisements that will show up on the main site, in the right sidebar. The purp...

discussion community-ads

Utkarsh

12:27

;http://askubuntu.com/questions/387035/ubuntu-having-a-weird-problem-whille-dete‌cting-for

0

Q: Ubuntu having a weird problem whille detecting for /

This is happening rapidly and since 3 days. It has happened 3 times. when the boot splash screen appears, while booting, i see an error saying that problems were detected while checking for / and after that it asks me to repair by pressing a key and after that it says that problems were found wh...

12.04 boot grub2 error-handling tmp

please help

I

Braiam

spam! askubuntu.com/a/386807/169736

Utkarsh

@Braiam hi dear friend!

Journeyman Geek

@Utkarsh: posting questions on chat is generally considered impolite

you can also edit your chat transcripts when you accidentally.

Utkarsh

@Braiam for got me?

@Bra forgot me?

Journeyman Geek

@Braiam: MAN THE FLAG CANNONS!

Utkarsh

12:31

@JourneymanGeek what?

Journeyman Geek

KEELHAUL THE SCALLYWAGS AND APPLY THE BASTINADO ON THE SPAMMONGERS!

Utkarsh

@JourneymanGeek no idea what you are saying

Journeyman Geek

.... kids these days....

Not enough corporal punishment. For that matter a little light capital punishment might be a learning experience.

Utkarsh

@JourneymanGeek this is your oldest dialogue

@JourneymanGeek what is corporal,

Journeyman Geek

@Utkarsh: yeah, get off my lawn

Utkarsh

12:35

@JourneymanGeek where is your lawn?

Journeyman Geek

on my balcony.

Utkarsh

I

@JourneymanGeek sorry, you are mistaken, its not your balcony ; its askubuntu

Journeyman Geek

DO NOT QUESTION YOUR ELDERS.

3

Utkarsh

CID

@JourneymanGeek sorry

0

Q: Ubuntu having a weird problem whille detecting for /

This is happening rapidly and since 3 days. It has happened 3 times. when the boot splash screen appears, while booting, i see an error saying that problems were detected while checking for / and after that it asks me to repair by pressing a key and after that it says that problems were found wh...

12.04 boot grub2 error-handling tmp

please help i am in a GREAT PROBLEM!

Journeyman Geek

8 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek

@Utkarsh: posting questions on chat is generally considered impolite

Utkarsh

12:38

@JourneymanGeek but why? others also post questions here

Journeyman Geek

We post questions we want others to look ar

there's a difference

and you posted it twice

Utkarsh

@JourneymanGeek dont you think my name is weird?

Journeyman Geek

do I really care?

Utkarsh

@JourneymanGeek no just think once

:12509625

jokerdino

13:39

@JourneymanGeek Oh man.

What do we have here.

Braiam

I got an idea of what this guy is trying to do, but it's possible?

Takkat

@Braiam if the bootloader can mount a filesystem on a file on NTFS.. but why the hassle?

Its basically what Wubi does with the known limitations.

Braiam

14:11

@Takkat yeah, I know he wants to imitate what wubi does

Jorge Castro

16:23

3

Q: How to correctly add a fake raid entry to fstab?

I have a fakeraid device that is properly setup in BIOS, yet since there is limitted installer support for fakeraid, the default installation didn't assign / update fstab entries for it. How do I add fakeraid mountpoints to fstab?

raid dmraid

can I get reopen votes on this?

the guy who is doing raid in ubuntu wants to answer it

Amith KK

16:42

BBT

Good Night

Avinash Raj

@JorgeCastro did i add xkcd.com/838 this picture to this askubuntu.com/questions/384509/…

Jorge Castro

shrug, your answer, up to you!

Avinash Raj

i can't able to catch your point

fossfreedom

@AvinashRaj personally dont like adding those xkcd "comics" to answers. Dont really improve the answer in anyway.

Avinash Raj

@fossfreedom not in my answer i want that comic in that question only.

fossfreedom

16:51

equally applies - doesnt improve the question either.

Avinash Raj

@fossfreedom @JorgeCastro thanx for your advices

Thomas W.

17:55

it's torpedo time.

0

Q: Can I upgrade individual python dist package?

I am receiving the following error when running a python script: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/scripts/SchoolClosureManager/SchoolClosureManager.py", line 210, in <module> runnable.run() File "/var/scripts/SchoolClosureManager/SchoolClosureManager.py", line 18, in run ...

command-line packages python 8.04

EOL release question

@fossfreedom if you're around want to fire torpedoes at that question?

Seth

@NathanOsman You'd think using CSS would be easy..

Why am I getting meta captchas?

Thomas W.

because i get them sometimes too?

the system's a little weird with blocking

Seth

no kidding.

blade19899

18:22

12

Q: Is it bad practice to use your real name online?

On some accounts I use my real name on-line(G+/fb/wiki/Personal blog), others(Q&A/Gaming) I use an alias. My question is: Security and privacy wise, what can people do with my real name? What are the harm, and dangers of using your real name on-line.

user-names

I told my boss what my account was on askubuntu, so, for half of the week i couldn't go to askubuntu, cause he makes good use of my 'activity' tab. So, i went to security.se. Not bad for a first Q there!

Thomas W.

He's probably still there.

but the question i have is why do you care if he sees your activity on Ask Ubuntu?

blade19899

@ThomasW. cause then he could monitor me. How much time i' m on askubuntu. You know instead of working!

Thomas W.

and he can track how long you're on how?

I'm on 24/7, if only to deal with my SE inbox

i don't actually do anything though

'cept the occasional chatmoderation because 10k+ SE chat rep

me, i procrastinated when there was no work.

when there was work i multitasked

evidenced by me still meeting the deadlines for things :P

'course, the state government is a little bit more relaxed that way, so long as you get your work done all's good :P

blade19899

ahah. Yeah. but, you can still see how much revisions you make, commets you left, reviews,posts accepts

sooo, he might not like that my 0 A.D. Q/A has 30+ revisions

instead of 30 revisions of my assignments.

Thomas W.

(1) revisions - rare, and usually minor grammar changes
(2) comments - rare, and usually pro-forma that go with a close vote
(3) reviews - only sorta visibleish to some extent
(4) post accepts - um, what? Where are "post accepts" shown? Edit accepts fall under "review" and AFAIK there's no moderation queues.

blade19899

18:31

already got a slight comments for him

my bad typo: posts, accepts*

Thomas W.

heh

most of what i do nowadays here is maintenance

or flagging

Avinash Raj

@ThomasW. @blade19899 i had 20 gb unallocated space on the extended partition.How do i move that space out of the extended partition

Thomas W.

and flagging is usually accompanied by a downvote on the thing, and that takes all of 5 seconds :P

@AvinashRaj ask a question on Ask Ubuntu rather than highlighting two random users who might not be able to help?

@blade19899 i actually use my ask ubuntu activity in helping others as evidence of my ability to do helpdesk

i actually reference it on my resume

blade19899

@AvinashRaj, use gparted. At the top of my head

Thomas W.

@blade19899 they still have to resize the extended partition and in doing so any logical partitions inside the extended partition could get corrupted

blade19899

18:33

thats something i did on a IT job website

Avinash Raj

how do i do it with gparted

Thomas W.

then they have to move the partitions around in order to get the space where they want it on the disk (if they want to expand / to use it)

@AvinashRaj there's a thousand questions and answers on how to work with partitions and gparted

blade19899

@AvinashRaj Best to search this on askubuntu

Avinash Raj

k thanx

Thomas W.

or ask your own question and get it marked as a dupe

(which i said first, ask your question on AskUbuntu rather than just ask in the chat)

@blade19899 Ask Ubuntu is one of the primary contributions i did for my Ubuntu Member status

and on my resume i even have my Ubuntu Member status listed

now my primary work is bugs and bugs triage, and some package maintenance (minor)

but meh

still shows i'm actively involved in the IT community

(also helps my linux skillset too :P)

blade19899

18:37

@ThomasW., thanks for the leason on how askubuntu can benefit me.

Thomas W.

but that's for me, my work is helpdesk right now (sysadmin maybe if I get my certs)

yawn

now, facebook, on the other hand...

that's a different story

ooo

blade19899

facebook. you know what, you helped me out a bit, so, am not even gonna comment on that :P

Thomas W.

i got a notable question badge.

5

Q: Can most mail from *.ru be considered spam?

Is it safe to assume that most, if not all, emails from a *.ru domain may be considered spam? From a log of 30000 emails from *.ru, its all been spam (over two months).

email spam

blade19899

I got a nice question badge:

14

Q: Is it bad practice to use your real name online?

On some accounts I use my real name on-line(G+/fb/wiki/Personal blog), others(Q&A/Gaming) I use an alias. My question is: Security and privacy wise, what can people do with my real name? What are the harm, and dangers of using your real name on-line.

user-names

:P

Thomas W.

i have quite a few nice question badges here on AskUbuntu

i'm rarely active on security.se

bleh, domain transfers from registrar to registrar are slow... >.>

blade19899

18:40

I only got two nice question

on askubuntu

Got 28 Popular questions

3 famous questions

Thomas W.

nice

i have 1 famous question on AU...

6 notable questions, 4 good questions...

7 nice questions, and 12 popular questions

askubuntu.com/users/10616/thomas-w?tab=badges&sort=class

blade19899

i got a Q with 119 upvotes

Thomas W.

if you want to see my badges

blade19899

119

Q: Why did the command ":(){ :|: & };:" make my system lag so badly I had to reboot?

DANGER! Do not run this command to 'test' it unless you are prepared for a crash and/or force-rebooting your system. I was in my Virtualbox running 12.04 trying to compile an app, and while waiting I happened to chance upon a forum where a comment said: Try :(){ :|: & };: Fun, too, and d...

command-line

Thomas W.

nice

... that question should never have to be asked :P

forkbombs are evil and you screwed your own system

blade19899

18:43

I just took a peek. Impressive

it was on a virtualbox

Thomas W.

i prefer my helpful flag count :P

1026 flags that helped :P

blade19899

At that time i didn' t know what a forkbomb was :P

damn that many

I prefer:

5

Q: How to Install 0 A.D.?

What is 0 A.D. and how can I install it on Ubuntu?

installation games 0ad

My personal favorite

cause i like the game, and it' s open source attitude

Good Q on security.se Upvoted you

But, gotta run know!

latterzzzz

Braiam

20:17

@thomasw. I don't have question badges... I don't ask questions on AU... apparently D:

Mateo

20:29

Nexus 5 has a Cyanogenmod image out - download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hammerhead&type=snapshot - might be of interest for those trying to port Ubuntu Touch

kalina

I BOUGHT A NEXUS SEVEN TODAY

I AM SO GREAT

Braiam

crossposted askubuntu.com/q/324019/169736 stackoverflow.com/q/17841710/792066

@kalina HA! I have the nexus ex 6! I'm greater than you!

kalina

7 > 6

where did you learn math?

Mateo

@Braiam ex 6?

Braiam

you don't know that "ex" makes the 6 "extremally" greater than 7 ¬_¬

@mateo ^

Mateo

20:42

a little bit "extra" on 6 is a bit less extra than 7?

unless it has an amazing feature to make up for it in size.

I'm not sure what we are talking about anymore -_-

Oli

No more drugs for these guys.

Thomas W.

21:01

@Oli lol?

kalina

I NEED MORE DRUGS

Oli

Yes we have no bananas.

Thomas W.

locks @kalina in /dev/null for ten years

kalina

you can't

it's impossible

Thomas W.

is it now

Oli

21:03

Nope.

Thomas W.

as i suspected.

imprisons @kalina in /dev/null for 20 years

kalina

kicking me just makes you an asshat

*stares at @Oli*

Thomas W.

lol

Oli

I do a pretty good impression of a shower of asshats... Wanna see it?

kalina

so my Nexus 7 should turn up some time next week

@Oli not really, it gets boring

you might as well throw kittens into the river, it's not like I can defend myself against a moderator only function that has no real purpose and whose usage doesn't get logged

Thomas W.

21:07

D:

@kalina WHY WOULD YOU EVEN SAY THAT?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!!?!!?!?!!!?!?!

@kalina INTERNET 101: YOU DO NOT HARM KITTENS!

kalina

@ThomasW. poor defenceless creature vs somebody who is obviously sick and has no morals

fits the circumstances exactly

Thomas W.

@kalina I obviously have no morals so you are either talking about Oli or myself

kalina

*obviously*

Thomas W.

2 days ago, by Thomas W.

@jokerdino but i am by nature an evil bloodsucking vindictive person who rains down evil upon bad people...

also that

kalina

obviously obviously

I prefer to just set fire to people

lol

hbdgaf

22:35

ah the weekend. it's unfortunately a short one...

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