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Nathan Osman

00:10

Note to self: the Android source code is HUGE.

Mateo

@badp an Ask Ubuntu users group on steam

Braiam

@NathanOsman isn't the equivalent to Linux source code just... for phones/tablets?

Nathan Osman

00:25

@Braiam It's more than just the kernel.

There's the Dalvik VM, all of the services, frameworks, etc.

Lucio

01:07

This one really peace me off..

This is not your personal blog. — Lucio 3 mins ago

badp

@Lucio then just flag and let it go. Do not engage him personally

Lucio

I did so

badp

No, you also left the comment. Now he'll respond to you, and that'll piss you off more

Lucio

@badp Thanks for your advice :)

done

badp

I'm happy you took it graciously :)

Lucio

01:12

Yeah, it is time for dinner

I guess that is the reason haha

badp

Nothing like food to cheer one up.

It's 3am, don't tempt me :P

Lucio

oh, that is quite late

see you later!

And thanks again :D

Nathan Osman

01:53

1.2 Mbps is fairly quick until you have three or four connected devices all trying to download stuff.

hbdgaf

02:15

While playing with openstack, I ran across the Ubuntu-cloud images ec2. Well played canonical. Well played.

hbdgaf

02:36

@Qasim - you on steam?

my new gratz image:

removed

Braiam

this is withing the boundary of selfpromotion askubuntu.com/questions/152371/…

hbdgaf

@Braiam - that gets a "BOO!!! you didn't make something. you piped to netcat. pimping your hosting for a pipe it to netcat answer and dropping the domain name twice does not count as an answer"

Braiam

LOL, for now is a "valid answer" because... umm.... answers OP question?

hbdgaf

valid != good, but that's not something i'm going to get in to. everyone knows i have strong opinions about everything

Braiam

well, for that are votes, no?

hbdgaf

02:50

I don't vote as much as I could. I tend to be a little rash... so I attempt to be nice by restraining myself.

sent the add req on steam btw...and added a discussion to the group so people know why it originally started

hbdgaf

03:05

@Gowtham - previously known as hacktohell or not so much?

AsheeshR

This answer links to this question which is closed as a duplicate of the initial question. The answer needs an edit.

Nathan Osman

Still cloning a 400 MB+ Git repository...

hbdgaf

@AsheeshR Not necessarily. If it needs a merge, then it needs a merge. After the merge, it could link to another answer instead of a closed as dupe question.

@NathanOsman I use a huge git repo to hold binary java blobs for some automation

Nathan Osman

@hbdgaf But I'm cloning the Android source code.

Actually, I'm cloning CyanogenMod which includes even more code.

hbdgaf

@AsheeshR - I can't do merges and I can do edits. I don't think it needs a pre-merge edit. I do think it needs a post-merge edit. So get the merge done and ping me.

@NathanOsman Cyanogenmod is nice-ish. I prefer to go pure android or pure linux with the android kernel on my nexus

Nathan Osman

03:15

@hbdgaf What is pure Android like? (Compared to CyanogenMod?)

Gowtham

@hbdgaf It's hth v2.0

I remember reading your profile !

What's your old name ?? ah akingxxxx

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman It's fine. I just think it should be purist same or purist fork, not somewhere in the middle

@Gowtham I've had a few ;)

akingxxxx callmev i think there were others.

Braiam

I should stop visiting the First post review... to keep my sanity...

hbdgaf

i stopped a lot of mod-like tasks to keep my sanity and not ragepost

Braiam

I should prepare another long metaq for the tags... the thingy is a whole mess of monumental proportions...

Qasim

03:24

@hbdgaf no i m not

hbdgaf

just trying to get the steam group to 11... thanks for the reply

Qasim

ur wc

Braiam

where was the link @hbdgaf I don't find it :(

the link for the lottery I mean

hbdgaf

i'll get it if you need it.

Braiam

please, if you can

Qasim

03:28

@hbdgaf hmm freeBSD

Braiam

wait, actually is better if it get posted in the discussion that you said you made in steam, no?

hbdgaf

@Braiam store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines

@Braiam post it as a comment if you want

@Qasim yes. my daily driver doesn't have network card support on latest stable...so i'm trying the new alpha/beta to see. if i have hardware support(they say it's coming for my chipset) i'll be running freebsd more

Braiam

thanks

hbdgaf

np. my trolldar is overly sensitive. i really do try to BENICE

Qasim

@hbdgaf i have stated freeBSD taining as well, learning boot process

chap 1

hbdgaf

03:32

i have it booting to a desktop, but with no network support - it's a bit useless

Qasim

hmmm

hbdgaf

i had it booting to a mac looking desktop on my old lappie. the only thing freebsd is missing is hardware support.

Braiam

is ok, I got all I needed

Qasim

try PcBSD

hbdgaf

@Qasim no. there just isn't support for recent atheros in bsd as a whole

pcbsd is for people that can't configure freebsd. if it's not in main, it's not in a fork

Qasim

03:34

hmmm i always used in vmware so ...

hbdgaf

i have it working in openstack. i just want it booting on bare metal for hardware access

Qasim

hmm

openstack on ubuntu ?

right

hbdgaf

@Braiam - you can comment on the thread but you don't accept friend requests? dafuq?

Braiam

lol really?

hbdgaf

@Qasim i'm running devstack on ubuntu saucy.

Braiam

03:37

wait... let me look

Qasim

ok

Braiam

there

hbdgaf

ty

hbdgaf

03:52

we're at 7 of 11 people... get on board steamcommunity.com/groups/askubuntuusers

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Mateo

10:52

@NathanOsman cyanogen has some kind of open-ssh

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11:09

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Is there any application that provides a color picker for the screen? For example: after starting the application the mouse is transformed into a color picker. Clicking anywhere on the screen it will detect the pixel color.

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Can anybody help me...?

Alaa

How in the world does someone use the ksh shell?

On AIX?

How do I escalate privileges? Does it have sudo =D?

Mateo

@Johnツ I remember something like that, somewhere... I'll look into it later today, oh, looks like someone else found it :)

John ツ

@Mateo Thank you. If you find a different one, I will vote up your answer too. :-)

hbdgaf

12:04

arg. does anyone have example code of adding database records from a django command...

hey

13:22

please help me :( askubuntu.com/questions/342579/aircrack-ng-kernel-panic

100 bounty no one helps me, what should i do

Amith KK

13:35

@Alvar I have before, once :P

hbdgaf

14:26

@hey it's a bug. it's not that you're not getting help, it's that you're posing a bug as a question

also, you should refrain from using multiple accounts to complain about bugs.

Alvar

@AmithKK what :P

hbdgaf

can't close as dupe because of no accepted answer...needs mod action or a repeal of that stupid rule: askubuntu.com/questions/349254/… askubuntu.com/questions/342579/aircrack-ng-kernel-panic

i want to dupe in the direction of the original, but if i can't...i can vtc both as bugs.

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Little Child

15:49

Evening. Is anybody here ?

jokerdino

Depends.

Little Child

@jokerdino Well I need help with Wubi

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jokerdino

Ahhhh WUBI

Little Child

@jokerdino Yes sir

jokerdino

Are you on 13.04? Wubi is deprecated already.

Little Child

15:53

12.04

the LTS version

jokerdino

Do you really want to use Wubi?

Little Child

I am not so experienced at using Ubuntu

I dont wanna screw things up

so to avoid mistakes :)

jokerdino

I think is is recommended you install it on a separate partition :/

brb -- dinner

Little Child

same here. brb -- dinner

hbdgaf

biblion is everything i want...now to get it set up and get the vps vendor to stop stalling

lazyPower

16:11

o/ @hbdgaf

loooooonnnnggg time no see mang

hbdgaf

ikr

so how are things? i'm launching a couple of services in the next month or so. get at me on G+ if you really want to know. otherwise just fill in the gaps and i'll do the same

@lazyPower ^

hey

@hbdgaf I don't have multiple accounts, it's just I just changed my username on askubuntu

so, there's nothing I can do? Maybe installing 12.04 would help?

instead of 13.04

hbdgaf

i've seen hey before. unless you switched and switched back, you're lying to me. i don't like that. and i'm not talking about a bug question

lazyPower

Fair statement :)

Things are looking up, i stepped down as middle management and created a devops position for myself. So my career has a new trajectory

Also spent the weekend talking to Marco about juju and charms, the state of juju, and what to expect when trying to integrate with it.

Some exciting stuff has been uncovered in my research. Looking forward to the next 3 months of exploratory dev

Little Child

16:28

@jokerdino U back ?

hbdgaf

@lazyPower On my end it's mostly some scraping redistribution via json and micro-apps. The day job is walmart...which has me less than pleased, but surviving

if you're not already in the steam group, you should think about it

lazyPower

16:46

I'm on steam

coder_chuck

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lazyPower

add me :)

hbdgaf

steamcommunity.com/groups/askubuntuusers

join the group. we're trying to circle qualify a load of au users

Amith KK

BBT

Good Night

lazyPower

joined

Amith KK

16:51

@hbdgaf Joined

BBT

Good Night

hbdgaf

and you're both invited. hope we get at least one AU user to have a steambox to dual boot

lazyPower

I've already got a steambox as far as i'm concerned :D

the big screen mode. I'm curious how they are planning on bridging the gap with windows only titles.

Thats one of their selling points for me, is finally bringing the whole plethora of games to SteamOS and stop the segmentation

hbdgaf

if they do the oncloud route, i would be satisfied

since the next gen games require an internet connection anyway, which at is clinically retarded, at least give me a benefit

hbdgaf

17:21

if steam gave me a way to play games i bought in the cloud, it would be way be way better than facing that i either have to rebuy or find a way to get things to run in wine. i might even buy something.

Braiam

17:31

@Seth meta.askubuntu.com/q/7400/169736

John ツ

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Braiam

17:58

@Johnツ I don't think that is ubuntu enough but there is your answer.

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Nathan Osman

19:49

8.4 GB of downloading later, the entire CyanogenMod source tree has been checked out to my computer!

It's occupying - get this - 16 GB of space. That's alot.

hbdgaf

20:21

at least it's copying. i'm trying to set up a biblion blog on a vps. my dns provider just went down - bodes well for my experience there - and i have to figure out how to set up biblion...which is not in the readme

Nathan Osman

20:31

I'm going to try to pack the repo onto a DVD. I might need two of them however.

Nope - it's going to take two DVDs. I'm going to have to split it.

But before I can do that, I'm going to need to do some partition resizing.

hbdgaf

Good luck. I'm just fighting with a lack of documentation. It would probably be quicker to write a django app myself.

Nathan Osman

:)

hbdgaf

i do wish networksolutions.com would come back up. they went down/permanent refresh like 2 seconds after i paid them

luck of job i guess

Oliver Schöning

I want! indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge/x/2504425 Me no money!

hbdgaf

it failed. even if you had money, it wouldn't matter...

Oliver Schöning

20:46

@hbdgaf So I assume they just went ahead and used 12 million dollars on pokemon cards?

Mateo

:(

hbdgaf

@OliverSchöning no, it was supposed to be returned if they didn't make goal

Oliver Schöning

@hbdgaf Well that's lame

Mateo

@hbdgaf yep, i got fully refunded, canonical even ate the fees

hbdgaf

no it's not. if you don't make your goal, a refund is the most honourable course of action. saying oops our bad, but we got your money can be done on indiegogo...canonical didn't though

Oliver Schöning

20:49

Sure, I just hoped that 32M was more of a strech goal, and that 12 M would be enough

hbdgaf

i was sort of hoping that it was a get us the money to hold for 30 days so we can make interest on it and we'll refund you after getting the nest-egg permanent returns rolling thing going on.

i mean, if i personally had 12 mil for a month - i would never have to work again...

Oliver Schöning

21:01

lmao

Finally a company that is honest. Gives money back...

hbdgaf

10 percent per year is 1.2 mil. one month of that is 100,000. ten percent annual yield mutual on that is 10k/yr...so I might have to wait a couple of years, but even giving it back - 100k after giving money back is a lot of money for a human.

Braiam

tell that to rich people... they always want more...

the more they have, the more they want... :(

hbdgaf

don't tell that to me :/ the guy working at walmart. i know already.

honestly, i would be shamed if canonical didn't earn interest on the seed money for a month. anything other than that would just be poor money management.

Braiam

I believe canonical never got the money, but paypal

hbdgaf

i believe you are right and i am shamed.

it would have been two new devs for ubuntu at 50k each for one year...

or 10k/yr permanent funding... i'll shut up now

Oliver Schöning

21:11

Id like to be rich to one day.

Just got 60 bucks for 3 hours of webdesign though ^^ yay I guess now I can label myself professional lmao

that is. NZD . not USD haha

hbdgaf

i don't ever "want to be rich". i just want to do interesting things.

whole different motivational engine

Braiam

I just want not be bothered by money...

Oliver Schöning

Whatever floats your boat.

hbdgaf

@Braiam that too. it's basically the same thing i'm saying

Oliver Schöning

I want a Houseboat. And I want to be able to travel without having to worry about getting a job somewhere. Money

hbdgaf

21:14

i have a camper. it's a houseboat, but on land. i never have to pack again. if i want to move, i just hook up a truck

people laugh at it a lot, but it's because they don't understand it.

Oliver Schöning

"but it's because they don't understand it." Hipster ftw ^^

hbdgaf

i don't think it's hipster. i think i'm just that much smarter. they'll understand it when the bank forecloses on their 100k+ home and i still own my 5k camper

;)

Braiam

is just a question of psychology, a settlement feels stable for the individual, and a house offers that sense of stability

Oliver Schöning

If thats what you like, nice. I, as a not so smart guy, am gonna keep trying to get those 100k+

hbdgaf

for someone who started over twice in 3 years, a camper is more stable than something that is anchored to the ground. the ability to move is a bonus unseen and overlooked.

for example, living in one is really cheap. so i was able to give a coworker a microwave. she was slackjawed that i did it because i ride a bike to work. it's all about your choices.

Braiam

21:22

like, if you get a job in other state you just have to move, and also your house don't loose value so fast, or more like the depreciation values isn't so hard

and is cheap just change it

hbdgaf

i bought it after it lost value, so the deprecation argument is invalid. there were things to fix, but they were minor. like thermostats for water heaters and whatnot.m

i just want to help people, fix things, etc. i may be a little obtuse sometimes, but people that know me like me...because i'm a good person.

Braiam

please, don't ever move to my country... people here don't understand people like you...

hbdgaf

people here don't understand me either ;)

Braiam

@NathanOsman are you writting the porting guide? askubuntu.com/q/351654/169736

just me or the name is a gave away askubuntu.com/a/351423/169736 ?

hbdgaf

21:42

i heard 11. and went deaf. i'm on 12 lts o 13 edge. 11 is no longer relevant. people should move on

new answer to old question, but it's way better than the top answer stackoverflow.com/questions/6915840/…

i mean hard coded so file names...really? someone said something similar on the mailing list

Braiam

it was a workaround for a bug...

hbdgaf

the bug is that they're using older than lts

Seth

21:58

@Braiam Interesting...

I feel like a stranger recently :(

hbdgaf

feel better. i always feel like a stranger

Seth

22:29

@hbdgaf I'll try to feel better :)

@Braiam I think he was waiting for someone else to write the guide, he just started the question. AFAIK.

user320

23:07

Hey guys I am trying to delete my other linux partition using gparted. But I am not sure which one the one is.

I have one sda1 and another sda2

Seth

Screenshot of gparted please? :)

and output of parted -l

user320

does the link work?

Mateo

ok, I'm thinking of bountying the touch porting question for about 350, putting together a custom message - Good answers on this will use a variety of sources, include prerequisites, steps to manually port, and resources for extra information that would otherwise be too long to list here. Please refrain copy/pasting large ammounts of information, answers should be backed by a fair ammount of independent research. - thoughts?

Seth

@user320 yeah, it does.

user320

@Seth so can you help me

Seth

23:13

yeah, hang on.

Do you have two operating systems or just two partitions?

user320

2 OS

I want 1 os with the extra space

Seth

I take it they are both some type of Linux?

user320

yeah. I found out which i no longer need and delted it. It is now unalloacted space.

When I RMB on the one i want to ize up the resize option is grayed out

Do i have to restart after I delte the partition?

Seth

RMB?

user320

right mouse button

Seth

23:22

I don't see any unallocated space in the picture

Braiam

@Mateo leave it for a bit, people need to buy the actual device still

or have one and the guts to break it...

should a mod reopen this one and mark it as the correct dupe? askubuntu.com/questions/351622/linux-vs-windows-7

user320

pbrd.co/1eSvIID

Thats the new image

I want that unallocated space

Seth

Okay. I think you're going to need to resize the extended partition before you can add the space to sda6

sda6 is "inside" the extended partition.

user320

Thats what I am saying the resize option is grayed out

Seth

Which one are you right clicking on?

user320

23:29

does not work on any of them

do i need to format the unalloacted to ext 4 first?

Mateo

@Braiam alright

Seth

@user320 No.

That is odd though.

Braiam

the problem is that you are trying to move the start of the partition, you should not...

Seth

I'm not sure what the problem would be then.

@Braiam Ahh. Order problems eh?

user320

@Braiam so what should i do then?

Seth

23:35

Someone needs to come up with a better way to do things than this "partition" system :-/

Braiam

you could create a partition and mount the system there, or create a /boot partition so gparted don't nags...

user320

Is there no easy way of resizing my current partition

Braiam

backup and reinstall...

user320

gonna do a restart brb

Mateo

might be enough space to make new partition dd everything over - then fix grub - delete the old one - resize the new?

Braiam

23:41

dd 102 GB? That's too much time!

Mateo

yeah...

user320

still grayed out

I am formatting it too ext4 now

Braiam

@user320 backup your data, and reinstall, when asked how you want to install ubuntu select Use the whole drive

@user320 that won't magically add the space you your installation...

user320

@Br

@Braiam there has got to be an easier way

Mateo

@user320 using a live disc?

user320

23:47

I must be able to do it through gparted

thats how i did it in windows

Mateo

are you using it on the system you are trying to resize, or using from live disk?

user320

I am not using a live dics. But i have just found ouot that that is the only way to do it.

Mateo

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Q: Partitioning to the "left" after deleting a Windows partition?

I deleted my Windows partition so I can make more space for my Ubuntu partition (making the switch out of Windows.) but I found out that you can't resize to the left, is there any way I can use the unallocated space? (that's why I added the quotes around left in the question) If you need an image...

partitioning windows gparted

might need to fix grub after as well

since the starting location of the partition you boot is moving

the one says to do the "move" operation

user320

I will just use a live cd tmrrw and resize it

would I have to fix the grub then?

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