Alternatively, they could provide the source code to this application so we can actually see what the hell it's trying to do

they pretty much dont care about Linux it seems. the help desk said they dont support it.

@ArtfulAardvark stupid question

does your phone work on their wifi

without any additional software

oh wait nevermind ignore

I don't know. I could try.

here's what that 'agent' does: basically it just is an agent that relays to a central server what your MAC address is, and then lets it work that way

it's basically a third party solution to MAC filtering that is old, obsolete, and useless since every network supports MAC filtering

find a computer on the network already that works, spoof the MAC.

in 2009 though, it was said the Windows version of the app works in Wine

but there's no appdb entry to support that statement

you could try to install Wine and then use it

no guarantees it'd work though

@ArtfulAardvark would you tell us which institution this is? :P

Southern New Hampshire University

congratulations, you're going to a university that is world-renowned for not keeping their networking-related stuff Modern.

wow, a university… oO

their IT help desk may not support Linux

but their network probably does, and they don't disclose how.

@ThomasWard Tell me about it: I've got a boss who thinks that anything Senior Director and above should not be treated like humans and treated without humour...

a modern university like that though IIRC uses WPA2 Enterprise and 802.1X

So should I treat customers without a laugh and a joke, ...

Thing is: I disregard him and I can get things done other PMs can't...

@ThomasWard He's a director.

He's the kind of manager that worries about his career first and his people last...

I concur...

There are two wise lessons I'll always remember some Director gave me very early in my career:

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Bullshit might get you to the top, but will not keep you there.

On your way down, remember the toes you stepped on on your climb to the top...

>:-)

I used to be a director but I only ever stepped on toes larger than mine...

.. that's why I'm now a Project Manager...

No one cares how you act, as long as you get the job done.

(and yes I did just prune a number of my messages)

@ThomasWard I saw... You have to keep to a higher standard than me: I'm just a luser; you're a mod!

:D

Orbital Moderator Toolkit Platform

@ArtfulAardvark I think that the problem is they're trying to use something produced an eon ago that has fifty thousand replacements for use

@ArtfulAardvark from what I can tell it reaches out to a central policy server, then checks your system to determine if you have anything that is out-of-compliance with that policy

from there it either lets you on the network

or it doesn't.

and it actively scans your system for software

sorry back

talk about the worst kind of faux-malware in existence.

@ThomasWard so ig i'm going to have to use virtualbox :(

RIP linux gaming

I have a windows install on a 64gb ssd

did you give wine a try? it’s desperate, but still…

Ig i could :P

@ArtfulAardvark you said you installed LSB?

Wine64 from their edgers repo works remarkably well for many many things if you use winetricks/PoL/private wine_drives for different applications and a blanket "all my old dos apps in this one/all my directx version X in this one"

@RobotHumans won't work here

it's a 32bit application

that apparently has never been updated

i found a potential workaround/thread but it won't work on 64bit systems I think

wine64 pulls in a wine32 instance. it does not in fact support 64-bit

no i mean

@ThomasWard i suppose i could put on a 32 bit os but i have 16 gb of ram though..

it won't work even in Wine likely on a 64bit host OS

@ArtfulAardvark yeah 32bit OSes are obsolete

as is this software

yeah it worked on my 64 bit windows tho

let me dig some more

haha what is this arcane software you speak of?

@ArtfulAardvark because Windows has full 32bit support in 64bit

@RobotHumans university college internet

@ThomasWard too bad not 16 as well lol

@RobotHumans read the last hour, you’ll like it :D

I have some software from DOS :P

@ArtfulAardvark Windwos 10 64-bit and WSL.

whaaaaa? vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/familyguy/images/4/4b/… smh

@Fabby you cant run a desktop on wsl and opengl = blah

@ArtfulAardvark you can...

It's just not supported by Microsoft (yet)

@Fabby can u get open GL to work?

Oh, just realised you added OpenGL...

No, that not yet.

@Fabby yeah

what's cygwin like?

lemme look for one of my answers...

works for cli apps. not so much for gui apps, but it has been around since i was a teenager...

hmm

urgh i have to install a 32bit container to test this, AND install gdb, AND install all sorts of evil. >.>

this application irks me

confirmed this won't work in modern Linux

@ArtfulAardvark the workaround I found won't work in versions of Linux after Ubuntu Lucid (10.04)

wow :o

the binary is out of date, not updated, and the University has failed at networking.

no solutions to use this, you could try the Windows version of the application in a Wine installation

it might work

ok.

i booted into windows for now i'll try it later. i really appreciate your help though @ThomasWard

If anyone wants to close this, I just CV-ed my own question -- upgrade fixed the issue and I was on 14.04 desktop so EOL askubuntu.com/questions/938219/…

14.04 is supported until April 2019

For server not desktop right? Like kernel updates but app updates and whatnot are off... so I specified desktop

so wrong close reason, IMO this question shouldn’t be closed… but ok. ;P

@RobotHumans no, for desktop as well

ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life

okay. doesn't bother me either way, but I upgraded which fixed it - it got no answers, so it's dead weight. It's like self site cleanup

@RobotHumans desktop is 'technically' supported still

@dessert I fixed it :)

closed reason is "not reproducible" :P

or was only relevant to a specific period of time

@ThomasWard sorry for notpicking, and thanks :)

Thanks.

Anywho, I needed 16.04 for docker-compose anyway why I upgraded in fact

@RobotHumans wow, so an upgrade actually solved a problem? :O

@dessert Well, it broke everything else (C stdlib I had installed from Ubuntu-developers for that app showdown got held instead of upgraded to main, so almost every C application including apt-get and aptitude failed), but it did fix a sound subsystem issue and allow a simpler deployment of docker-compose.

dpkg saved me, but I thought for a moment I was going to have to do a burndown instead of a release-upgrade

@RobotHumans lol

on topic today: tell your release-upgrade story :)

Yeah, DE was broken too. So, booting to runlevel 1, uninstalling all libraries that marked the C stdlib old edge version as required, dpkg -f install of the C stdlib after manually destroying my box, and the reinstalling all those libraries to reverse the changes. (oddly, I had to remove all wine:32 dependencies, but they reinstalled just fine)

@dessert starred!

@Fabby filming the ducks running around is still on my to do list btw, please be patient

@dessert Pic of how tall they are now would be good in the meantime...

@Fabby noted

:-)