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1:52 AM
well that was almost bad. Had to take apart my computer, but I managed to fix my laptop fan :/
(no fan == FIREBALL waiting to happen)
anyways, what did I miss?
 
Microsoft licensing is stupid.
 
2:45 AM
@NathanOsman that's nothing new
what were you trying to fight with their licensing over?
 
3:06 AM
@NathanOsman There's no chance your server 2012 key is an OEM copy right?
 
3:48 AM
Nope.
 
4:00 AM
hmm. firejail is broken.
this is weird
┌─[20:58:41]─[kazwolfe@firewolf]
└──> firejail $ firejail bash
Reading profile /etc/firejail/default.profile
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-passwdmgr.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-programs.inc

** Note: you can use --noprofile to disable default.profile **

Parent pid 25237, child pid 25238
Child process initialized in 68.02 ms
'bash'

Parent is shutting down, bye...
 
4:13 AM
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Q: Dependency Graph for Daemons

MandyLBOne of the practice problems I'm trying to solve asked me to "Draw a dependency graph that shows which daemons must be started before other daemons on your Linux system." In trying to complete this, I've discovered the pstree command that appears to show how all processes on my system are linke...

 
4:38 AM
So Fedora isn't all that bad.
 
 
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6:44 AM
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Q: What does "if1@if2" mean in interface name in output of "ip address" command on Ubuntu

Bruno RijsmanWhat does at sign (@) mean in interface name in output of "ip address" command (or the "ip link" command) on Ubuntu, for example interface name "eth0@if44" in the following output: root@aafa1fc24a0b:/# ip address 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default q...

 
7:35 AM
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Q: Ubuntu ports open but iptables rules are empty

Kalyan RaghuI have installed ejabberd on a new installation of Ubuntu 16.04 on digitalocean cloud and am able to connect to it from pidgin from my local machine without configuring any firewall rules. Curious to see the ports open I did nmap <ip_address> PORT STATE SERVICE 22/tcp open ssh 5222/tcp ...

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Q: Strange command line behaviour when ssh, 7z or cd?

BevorI have a very strange behaviour with my remote server. First of all, when I access my server with ssh, I sometimes have to enter my password although my user is in authorized_keys. Sometimes it works without password as expected. Secondly, I tried to unzip an uploaded file inside my home directo...

 
@Zanna Starred as I'm not the droid you're looking for. ;-)
 
looks fishy @Zanna
wow I got +10 on a comment there.
 
@Rinzwind You got rep on a comment?
Is that a 100K privilege?
:D :D :D
 
@Fabby no 10 upvotes on my comment
 
Link?
 
8:22 AM
and the "true" seems fishy to me.
@Fabby see zanna' s link ^^
 
Since 2011? that't 2 upvotes / year for a question that has has 37K views...
I'm sill amazed on how much rep you got for the 32-64bit answer and just noticed I never upvoted that one.
 
it has a good summary though so deserves considering... I just don't know whether it's right haha
 
That's why we have the "skip" button.
Oops, Freudian slip. :-)
 
:D and a very funny one!
 
8:34 AM
I did skip it, but I wanted to draw attention to it
 
Well, I did the right thing and starred.
 
yes, thanks for that! :)
 
Hopefully everyone reading it and not knowing neither will star as well @Rinzwind
 
one star is enough I think haha
we don't want it stuck there long after it's been dealt with
 
@Zanna That's what the start wall should actually be used for instead of "I'm dumb" jokes.
2
 
8:35 AM
@Fabby jerk! :=D
 
oh I like the jokes
 
@Fabby --->
 
and other general nonsense
 
@Rinzwind I did 10 seconds before I posted that.
 
SE chat is more fun with random off-topicness
 
8:37 AM
did you see askubuntu.com/questions/477551/… yet @Fabby ? almost at 1000 >:)
 
Morn’!
 
Yeah, upvoted a long time ago...
 
yo @dessert
 
@dessert Guten Morgen!
Today's dessert will be "Merveilleux"
>:-)
@Zanna Can you give me mine? (user ID 344926)
 
I just realized I can’t install the moreutils package without apt removing the (GNU) parallel package, as both provide /usr/bin/parallel – I bet there already is a question out there adressing this issue, but I can’t find it. How do I install these two packages alongside each other?
 
8:40 AM
@Rinzwind Rinzwind!!! Who starred that???
;-) :D ;-)
 
@Fabby who starred what?
 
@Fabby that one
 
@Rinzwind :P :P :P
@Zanna thanks.
@dessert gnu parallel pachage contains nothing the moreutils contains, does it???
 
@Fabby the one I started I told you about :=) @ 10:36
 
@Fabby yes it does: /usr/bin/parallel
moreutils provide a command parallel which is not at all GNU parallel ;P
 
8:42 AM
@dessert That's in moreutils too.
 
it’s a totally different program
 
so you only needed parallel, installed it, now need moreutils and you will still have parallel after you install that, so where's the problem?
 
@Fabby same command. different function. That does not seem a problem to you? >:)
 
@Fabby no, I will only have moreutil’s parallel, which is not GNU parallel from the parallel package.
 
@Rinzwind AH!!! I thought it was the same thing!!!
 
8:45 AM
sigh :=)
 
@Fabby sorry for not making that clear in the first place, but they are in fact substantially different
 
@dessert copy the parallel executable you now have to /temp/gparallel and then copyi it back after moreutils install is what I would do after I've taken a system backup
 
@dessert no it was perfectly clear :=)
 
---^ Rinzy better at leading between the lines.
 
@Fabby I always have taken a system backup – some day. ;P
 
8:46 AM
@Fabby wont work
 
What if updates?
 
Why?
 
@Fabby see 1 line above you
file a bug report >:-)
 
bug report takes time so:
 
I have scripts running parallel, I can’t risk it being silently changed by a simple apt upgrade.
 
8:48 AM
FOUND IT
 
File a bug report and install from source, sed parallel to gparallel and update the source when the source updates automatically.
 
Use dpkg to force the install; parallel gets along nicely with moreutils -- it renames moreutils' parallel util to parallel.moreutils. When the install is done both programs (GNU and moreutils) are available.
Tada \o/
 
----^ smart dude.
so remove parallel, install moreutils and then force dpkg to install GNU parallel?
 
oh and gnu parallel is a script so you can also manually do this
dessert left us :P
 
hmmm… solved in 17.04, but I’m running 16.04 here
ah, didn’t see the most upvotes answer – sorry
 
8:54 AM
see line #2 in my previous comment.
@dessert and that was noted at 10:49 >:)
 
Rinzwind is like Socrates: talking into the storm and no one hearing him...
 
@Fabby and you seem to be drunk >:)
wow that was a lot of editing D:
 
I havent had a drop of alcohol in > 24 hours!!!
I'm on AZERTY and the sun is shining into my eyes.
so when I type blind, I default to QWERTY.
Talking about drinks: I need to start cooking.
TTUL8R!
 
right that is what all the drunks say :=)
 
@Rinzwind No, they all say they're tired.
 
8:57 AM
and I need to start playing ni no kuni :=S
almost platinum <3
 
just like people dating married people all say "It's complicated!"
 
bbl
 
Ciao!
 
@Rinzwind nice, works like a charm – thanks another time Rinzi!
 
9:57 AM
@dessert You should post a question, have Rinzi answer and give him an upvote and an acceptance and post the answer here, bceause Rinzwind is a rep-whore.
>:-) ;-) >:-)
@Zanna Update on the Borlotti cooking: if you would have any fresh or frozen sage, please turn on your teleporter and beam over to my place and bring them!
(I thought I still had some in my freezer, but they're all gone and no shops are open here in Catholic Europe...)
I'll pay you any price and feed you!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
aww no... I don't have any sage alas, can't even get it in my home town... I walk 6 km to get it in the county town. But it's not in season :(
 
Too bad!!!
I'm trying with bay-leaves and will keep you posted.
 
use rosemary
 
If it would be vegan only: yes!
 
maybe marjoram
 
10:04 AM
But I have sea-food eating vegetarians over too, so I have cod in tomato/basil/nutmeg/pepper sauce too.
(and the Borlotti are a sidde dish for those)
So rosemary would be too overpowering.
 
oh, well just use some oregano and cry a little
 
Substituting the sage leaves with dried bay leaves in the leftover soaking juice
@Zanna :D :D :D
Not listening and still sticking with the bay leaves (and probably hitting my head against the wat in an hour for not listening to you and crying my eyes out)
(I only have dried oregano)
 
oh I actually like dried oregano better than fresh
 
Not that anyone will notice the didn't have the perfect Borlotti...
 
have you got any thyme?
 
10:07 AM
@Zanna Ran out of that too: Dried oregano and "Herbes Provençales" only
OH, maybeµ!!!!
*Running back to kitchen!!!
@Zanna :* :* :*
 
oh good :)
 
@Rinzwind please respond to my query ,thank you :)
@Zanna Have you tried poha ?
 
yes I love poha!
 
oh great ,and any other Indian dish ?
 
when I unexpectedly have to cook as quickly as possible I make poha with nuts, mustard seeds, cumin, curry leaf, hing, chilli, onion, potato done in microwave, turmeric, peas from the freezer and a squeeze of lemon. So easy and good.
@user716691 oh yes I love Indian recipes
it's my favourite "style" of food
 
10:21 AM
Oh great I'm actually a strict veggy so I can suggest only those ones :)
its nice that you like them so how many you tried till date ?
have you tried dhokla
the one made of semolina
 
no, I don't think so, unless I know another name for it. What is it like?
that looks delicious. No I haven't tried it!
 
its a baked recipe
a little puffy kind
 
@user716691 me too. In my culture most of the traditional/popular dishes are meat-based. Because I became vegetarian in my teens I started to learn Indian cooking because it has more attractive vegetarian dishes!
 
friend with curry leaves
*fried
oh great ,I'm happy that you became vegan consequently becoming more human :)
 
yes it sounds very good. If it's made from fermented rice I will probably like it a lot
but I find it hard to get anything to ferment in the climate here (or maybe it's just me)
 
10:32 AM
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Q: Ubuntu: Startup script will not be executed?

BevorAt server startup I want to start my Wildfly instance, but my startup script is not executed (it works when I start it manually). This is how my startup script looks like: #!/bin/bash nohup /opt/wildfly/bin/standalone.sh >> nohup.out 2>&1 & exit 0 I tried to add the startup script to etc/rc.lo...

 
you surely will love its taste

I'm sharing Tarala dalal's channel ,you should check it in your free time https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYRRwNWXxCKFaVjFuXo1I8Q
 
I know a Gujarati recipe that is quite similar to that one but with vegetables hanvdo. I like to make this one
@user716691 oh great! thanks :)
 
you can use baking soda for it in place of curd , few people use eno as a replacement for making it quick
your welcome :)
hope that replacements will make it easy considering your climate
 
ah good idea. I should try that! It can work with yeast, but it tastes yeasty then
 
yeah that may not make exact taste ,
do you like sweet dishes ,like gulgula ,its easy and tasy
*tasty
 
10:41 AM
whenever I watch recipe videos people are making some kind of flatbread and I don't know how they make the dough so soft. Magic fingers or something
I like making sweet things, yes. But I don't know that dish.
 
hmm ok I'm sharing how to make it ,its quiet easy and quick dish ,hope you will like it .youtube.com/watch?v=AKocGMM_GcY
for making it soft you should leave the bread sometime after doughing
 
I always do that. It helps to use warm water. But still, I can never make it as soft as video people. Maybe their flour is finer
still, I love making them. Very relaxing to do haha
yesterday I made some with beetroot and ginger
 
no there are two things ,first a right mixture of water with gentle doughing and then leaving it sometime that makes it soft . as a medical fact finer flour is bad to stomach in comparison to less finer one :)
 
oh is it? Why is that?
 
10:59 AM
well its said that more finer flour sticks to intestines which is not good , human food need a little fibre for good digestion ,less finer flour is good in fibre specifically when it contains wheat bran ,you can search benefits of wheat bran
@Rinzwind are you available to talk right now
 
 
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12:34 PM
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Q: Resetting root password of mysql

mahmoodIn order to reset the root password in mysql on an ubuntu machine, I stopped the service and started the configuration. However, I can not login without password. mahmood@ce:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop mysql stop/waiting mahmood@ce:~$ sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables & [1] 27166 mahmood@ce:~$ ...

 
12:50 PM
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Q: Keystrokes are much faster when not using a window manager. Why?

seenickcodeI'm using Xubuntu 18.04 and I've noticed that when I boot to say, recovery mode and without any window manager of any type, the keystrokes register instantly and yet when I use my normal window manager for almost anything like typing in a web browser, text editor, etc, there's more of a slight de...

 
 
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2:39 PM
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Q: Ubuntu server / Minecraft server / Windows UWP client

Adam MacI set up Minecraft server on my headless ubuntu box. The final message shows "Query running on 0.0.0.0:25565". I added an iptables rule to open up port 25565 (using webmin - "if protocol is TCP and destination port is 25565" in the "incoming packets" section), and I also forwarded 25565 to my s...

 
 
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3:58 PM
@Zanna I always have a first intuitive reaction and then a second one...
I listened and added dried Oregano to the Borlotti
0:-)
Everyone liked it except one guy, but he's a meat eater...
too bad for him!
 
4:14 PM
@Fabby Oregano, the ancient Italian art of folding pizzas.
;-D Hi Fabby
 
@ByteCommander That's "Calzone" :D
;-) :-) ;-)
 
I know what a Calzone is, that was a pun on Origami :P
 
@ByteCommander Ich bin dumm, aber nich so dumm!!! :P ;-) >:-)
 
that's why I added tons of smileys!!!
Too bad! Listening to classical music!!!
 
4:19 PM
looks left, then right, then lights the smileys on fire
 
(Piano, lemme look up the composer)
 
greetings.
 
How are you today? :-)
 
i've been better
no voice today so bleh
 
(BRB: looking up composer)
@ByteCommander Brahms on a theme of Paganini...
@ThomasWard You're a man, so not a crippling situation...
>:-) ;-) >:-)
 
4:23 PM
crippling situation when you have a date and want to have casual conversation. i had a date planned this evening unfortunately
so I'm going to have to cancel and change plans :/
which i hate doing
 
@ThomasWard Don't cancel and tell her/him, you'll be listening to them all evening.
Tell them that it'll be a golden opportunity to get to know them better and even if you try to speak they should stuff your face with something.
@ThomasWard Turn a bad thing into a good thing.
@ThomasWard (Sorry! You know what kind of person I am professionally but I'm the kind that sees an Iridium lining in everything that happens)
 
@Fabby thought you were gonna use thyme
 
So??? did you cancel the cancelling?
@Zanna I looked for it, but couldn't find any so I bowed to your wisdom!
 
did you like it?
 
(the "Herbes Provençales" was all i had that contained thyme and didn't want to take the pre-mixed road)
@Zanna :thumbsup!
 
4:32 PM
well that's good
 
dried oregano is a good substiture for fresh sage.
 
I try not to do violence. Besides, I'm usually wrong anyway, unless I'm agreeing with someone smarter
 
(though nothing beats fresh/frozen)
@Zanna Apparently you're not wrong and you should be much more confident about yourself.
(Or I'll kick you in the nuts!)
:D ;-) :D
I need another drink!
PSA: I've had a few already so I'm making less sense then usual, though I'll be more honest and direct than usual.
(So if you want to know the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth, now's the moment to ask one of the first ones)
:D ;-) :D
BRB
 
@ByteCommander Ylvis is something else for sure xD
 
So far I only knew the Fox song from them
but they have a few more gems
quite funny guys
 
4:44 PM
@ByteCommander Truckers hitch, yoghurt, and mr toot are also pretty good
@ByteCommander They have a talk show in Norway, apparently.
 
ok
Stonehenge is also nice
> the only song to rhyme "high", "technology", and "today"
 
lol
 
5:01 PM
@ByteCommander Brahms and Paganini???
Oh, Ylvis!!!
:D ;-) :D
@Zanna Warning: indiscreet question alert: You try not to do violence, so sometimes you do???
Q: When was the last time you were violent?
(NRN!)
0:-)
@ThomasWard So? Did you follow my (drunk though extremely honest) advice?
 
@Fabby saw it
@Fabby I shouted at some poor answerer yesterday for not testing their commands
 
@Zanna That's not violence!
 
oh it is in my book
 
When was the last time you kicked someone in the nuts / smacked them across the face / give them a good shake?
(Lemme guess: when you were 6)
Last time I threw a vase at someone's head was to return the vase they threw at my head and that was ... 17-18 years ago????
Last time I kicked someone was to return the kick they gave me for a ridiculously unimportant fact, but more important than the fact they kicked me for a year earlier and that was even longer ago!
I don't believe in violence, but will gladly return it when used on me.
(Decision I had to take 30 years ago to decide whether I was going to take up armed or unarmed services in the army...)
@Zanna -----^
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
5:18 PM
I was a smacked child, so I thought smacking was what you did when you didn't like someone else's behaviour. So I used to smack my little brother if he didn't do what I told him or something. I never want to do that again. If I feel violent, I take a walk. I won't physically hurt anyone unless I very urgently need to escape from them. That said, I used to do capoeira and before that karate. So I've kicked and punched a lot of people in a controlled manner haha
 
@Zanna You are full of surprises and you're a fantastic person!
 
hahaha
 
(My brother and me were smacked children until I hit back one day)
last time me or my brother was ever hit again by that person... :-)
@Zanna Most people are what they were brought up to be, and a few surpass their upbringing...
@Benny o/
(you dropped into a weird conversation)
Oh, Takkat's here too!
 
:)
 
@Benny I hope you're not still in kindergarten as your avatar shows...
If you're a minor, I'm from a different era, at least double your age!
(if not triple or quadruple)
Oh... It stopped raining! Nice natural drumbeat on the window is gone... :-(
 
5:26 PM
@Fabby yeah. break the cycle!
parents just came back from day out... they had the only vegetarian option on the menu; arancini for starter, risotto for main hahaha
 
6:32 PM
@Zanna Your parents were vegetarian???
@ByteCommander opeing this one first
 
they have both become vegetarian in recent years
 
@ByteCommander and that one next.
@Zanna Apples... trees... something or the other...
;-) :-) ;-)
 
I became vegetarian about 20 years ago. I became vegan about 5 years ago. My mum became vegetarian about 3 years ago, and my dad became vegetarian about 2 years ago
 
@Zanna Cultural alert warning: How old are you?
(NRN)
 
@Zanna how do you define vegetarian?
 
6:35 PM
33
 
@Zanna Wow!
You must've been strong-willed to become a vegetarian at 13!
Took me till I was 18 to refuse to go to church!
(16 to riposte)
@ByteCommander nice!!!!
 
@Seth well there are different definitions. In the UK for most people it loosely means doesn't eat anything that directly resulted from an animal's death, i.e. eats everything except meat, fish, gelatin and rennet
so I ate eggs and dairy products.
 
ah. ok. That's what I was thinking it was.
Why did you decide to go vegan from that?
 
@Fabby it wasn't really strong will... I was just following my emotion. My mum said "well, you better learn to cook then" but didn't object strongly
 
@Zanna :D :D :D
Practical parents...
 
6:43 PM
we should really burn the tag...
 
@Zanna I went looking for a [food] tag on AU!!!
 
my bad... wish they would implement a syntax to link-format tags on another site
 
:D ;-) :D
 
@Seth it was actually gradual... for a long time I was put off veganism by what seemed to me to be a... um... lack of intersectionality in things vegan organisations did and things vegans said in public. Also I don't like coercion and interfering in personal stuff... then I read an article in Bitch magazine with Breeze Harper... aka Sistah Vegan, about human rights abuses in agriculture (especially fruit-picking)
at that point I started to realise that going vegan was the right thing to do... it was possible to do it without becoming some kind of head-up-own-backside evangelist... it was not incompatible with social justice struggle... in fact it was part of the struggle against violence
I didn't deliberately try to go vegan, I just started following some sites on facebook that posted vegan recipes... looking at all that beautiful food must have helped the subliminal process
 
@Zanna I don't understand. How did reading about human rights abuses in agriculture help you decide?
 
6:53 PM
@Seth so at some point I had started to become somewhat aware of the conditions in the dairy industry, for example... I had started to become aware of the environmental impacts... I had a feeling that vegans were right, I was just resisting it because of the way some of them behaved... like PETA
so what helped me put everything together was listening to some vegans who were actually aware of racism and poverty
sounds dumb, but this helped me to realise that going vegan didn't mean throwing every oppressed human under the bus to save animals
 
@Zanna ohhh, ok. Now I understand. That's not dumb at all :)
I'm just a bit dense.
 
no! it seems weird to me. It wasn't really a conscious, rational, sequential thought process
 
@Zanna I had to google "intersectionality" and misread it at first glance....
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
so anyway I just started not wanting to eat cheese, so I stopped eating it... then I started not wanting to eat eggs so I stopped eating them... then I started eating coconut yogurt and stopped eating dairy yogurt. There was no feeling of self-deprivation whatsoever. I felt really liberated to start exploring different foods.
But the main thing that happened was this feeling of happiness and... integrity? I mean, wholeness, like, when things click into place. I had not expected that at all
I understood why I should have become vegan much better after I had actually done it
so there was no effort involved. I rolled
 
@Zanna That is very interesting.
 
6:59 PM
yeah. I don't usually talk about this because it just sounds like propaganda
but I don't want to coerce anyone or push anyone. I certainly don't want to be saying rubbishy things like go vegan and you will discover the secret of eternal happiness
that would be bs :)
 
thanks for detailing your thoughts on it! :)
 
7:15 PM
thanks for asking :)
 
7:30 PM
@Zanna don't burn any food ;-)
 
@ByteCommander :D :D :D
 
7:55 PM
@ByteCommander funniest recipe intro ever "my husband makes this dish really well - sometimes he experiments with variations like intentionally burning the garlic slightly..." I can just imagine the conversation "hmm not bad, but... kind of tastes like... burnt garlic?" "oh yeah, I thought that would give it an edge" lying face
 
...
I once managed to burn a rice pot beyond recognition... wasn't fun
 
I mean, I don't believe it was really deliberate
just like when my dad put up the new coat hook rail and after it was fixed firmly to the wall realised it was terribly off-centre... he started swearing and cursing himself... I was there at the time and said "well, I guess it's helpful to have it there, because it it was centred, the coats would be squashed into the corner" my dad said "excellent thinking! that just might save my butt!"
 
@Zanna I know someone who can burn water...
Recipe:
Desire a hard-boiled egg.
Take an egg and the largest pot you can find in the house.
 
later...
mum: oh you've put the thing up!
dad: yep
mum: oh it's... not in the middle!
dad: yeah I thought the coats would be squashed in the corner...
mum: oh yeah, makes sense!
*mum exits*
dad (to me): phew! got away with it!
2
 
fill it to the brim with water
@Zanna starred.
then turn the heat to maximum.
wait for 5 minutes while nothing happens
go watch a movie on television
come back after 1h 15 minutes
 
8:01 PM
oh no...
 
burnt water!
(forgot one item: use a gas stove!)
 
I have burnt beans a couple of times slightly and once quite badly because I leave them cooking slowly and go do something else. Sometimes I go out, but that's ok, because all the way to the shop to buy whatever it is I don't have and all the way back I'm thinking about the beans, and have they got enough water, and how long as it been... never burned them like that. But if I'm home, I might forget all about them for hours...
 
@Fabby now do the same with a pot of rice and you'll not only be able to mine charcoal from inside it, you can also now spin it around like a spinning top
 
@ByteCommander scrap metal :(
 
@ByteCommander Same with burnt water...
convex kettle!
 
8:05 PM
yep
 
(but the smell must be less bad with burnt water, I suppose)
 
probably
 
;-)
 
@Zanna you need to stop now ;p
 
hahaha get one of our mods to suspend me
 
it is just too perfect and you'd ruin it XDXDXD
 
I've been reading this article for 3 hours... I keep reading the same sentence again, switching to another tab, coming back, reading the same sentence, switching to another tab...
O internet why have you FUBARed my attention span?
 
9:56 PM
:o That's impressive
 
10:10 PM
Sup @Seth - you wind up getting the game?
 
11:05 PM
@RobotHumans sadly no. Something came up and then I missed the deadline.
@Zanna there should be a badge for this
 

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