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Problem here is that the Telekom owns the "last meter" of every standard household's telecommunication wires, the connection between the box on the street and each house. If you get your internet/phone from another company, they still have to rely on Telekom providing service for that final wire.

Zacharee1

TRUMP CLINTON STEIN JOHNSON

Byte Commander

And that is often a huge hassle.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander lol

Byte Commander

Ex-Monopolist.

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe 0_0

that's what...

Byte Commander

2:04 AM

Still too powerful.

Journeyman Geek

4 generations old?

granted the 3t's kinda an early release

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander like AT&T in the US?

TheXed

wait hold on....we got side tracked...

Zacharee1

and how it's slowly climbing back to monopoly again

TheXed

no body answered my question :-P

Kaz Wolfe

2:05 AM

@JourneymanGeek we don't get good phones to test with

Zacharee1

@TheXed were we ever on topic??

Journeyman Geek

ah

TheXed

@Zacharee1 that is besides the point...

Kaz Wolfe

we just make sure that we work with the major carriers

Zacharee1

@TheXed we have no point

@KazWolfe right, the US govt helped our cable companies to avoid competition.....

IanC

2:06 AM

gotta go sleep, good night folks!

Zacharee1

@IanC k, dream of TMO ;P

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 what does that have to do with anything

TheXed

yourworldoftext.com/askubuntu

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe illuminatti confirmed

lol

@TheXed welp

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 idk, maybe. Their largest competitor here is 1&1. They even battled each other in their tv ad spots for a while, always making fun of how bad the others are.

Zacharee1

2:11 AM

lol

you should see the VZ vs TMO ads here

they are scathing

Byte Commander

wat?

@TheXed you surely started something evil there...

TheXed

@ByteCommander that is what I do.

Someone needs to star that link :-D

Byte Commander

Now we know it, @TheXed is @ThomasWard's sockpuppet.

;-)

TheXed

@ByteCommander I am not a sock, or a puppet...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I would envision Thomas's sock puppet to be like a mini-me in Darth Vader form :)

Is it vadar or vader? hmm

Mark Yisri

2:18 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix vader

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@MarkYisri Thanks... Haha Linux has not list disk command: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/157154/…

Mark Yisri

@TheXed how's rpi?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Drive letter, mfg name / model number and size...

No wonder sda, sdb, sdc gets confused with sdf and reversed and ddd to h*ll

TheXed

@MarkYisri sitting on my desk...doing nothing...

at least this one...

I have 2 others...

Android Dev

Wow, AU doesn't look so great on a 1080p monitor...

Zacharee1

2:21 AM

@MarkYisri lol I thought you were talking about @RPiAwesomeness xD

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I have 1080... better in Ubuntu 16.04 than Windows 8.1 new install, Ubuntu 14.04 was kind of crappy for screen brightness... ok very crappy

Zacharee1

ME is better than 8.1

Windows ME?

yehs

No WINDOWS YOU

2:21 AM

@Zacharee1 I wouldn't go that far...

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev I would and did

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I like Vista better than ME, but never used ME

Byte Commander

Kaz Wolfe

that board... turned horrible.

Zacharee1

wat

Android Dev

2:22 AM

ME doesn't get security patches anymore.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ByteCommander only had 5 beers... where is that on your chart?

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev Windows 8's UI and UX outbalance that

@WinEunuuchs2Unix we'll need your weight and height or a breathalyzer

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@AndroidDev You don't need security patches for OS no one (in their right mind) uses anymore.

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 Hold on, are we talking 8 or 8.1 here? Cause 8.1 was at least tolerable.

Zacharee1

@WinEunuuchs2Unix so why is Windows 8 still getting them?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:23 AM

@Zacharee1 Let's go with .008 and leave it there :)

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev either

@WinEunuuchs2Unix 5 beers and only that??

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zacharee1 Windows 8 product key is burnt into my EEPROM I don't have any choice.

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 Now if it was 8 or ME, then okay, ME.

Zacharee1

@WinEunuuchs2Unix you can use 7

Seth

@Zacharee1 did you hear the joke about the ostrich?

Zacharee1

2:24 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix it's not like you can't buy your own keys

@Seth do I want to?

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 But do you like 10's UI?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zacharee1 Dell had installed 7 because Win 8 was crappolla in 2013 but I can't reinstall it without "non-genuine" status

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev I still miss Aero

@WinEunuuchs2Unix buy a key?

Byte Commander

@WinEunuuchs2Unix find it out. healthstatus.com/calculate/blood-alcohol-bac-calculator

Seth

@Zacharee1 naw, it was pretty bad. Never got off the ground.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:25 AM

@Zacharee1 I'm not going to spend money on Windows when it was free with the laptop in first place

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 I'm staying on 7 till 2020

Zacharee1

@Seth >_<

@AndroidDev idk why they decided "hey let's take out this UI that everyone liked because it's 'outdated'"

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ByteCommander Thanks Byte but it was a pain in the back to get Win 8.1 installed and I only use it for gaming so I don't want to fix Win 7 on the other two drives.

Byte Commander

Wat?

Zacharee1

@WinEunuuchs2Unix that's a BAC lol

not a product key

Byte Commander

2:26 AM

Haven't said anything about 7 or 8.1

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 +1. People said it looks "cheesy," but IMHO it's one the the sleekest UIs I have ever used.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

pain in the back = it took a lot of work.

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev I feel like they could've at least kept it as an option

Android Dev

@Zacharee1 One of the things that bothers me most with 10 is the black taskbar. To me, it's very distracting.

Zacharee1

mine's blue o_O

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:28 AM

Actually my other laptop still has Windows Vista and Ubuntu 14.04. I kind of like the Aero glass transparent themes on it.

@AndroidDev Black is my theme colour! (or lack thereof)

Zacharee1

I also can't figure out how they took away the blur effects but managed to make 8 and 10 more graphically intense

Android Dev

Seriously???

That doesn't make sense.

At all.

Well, as I said, I'll be rocking 7 till 2020.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

What they said was true.... in this room everything is on-topic except Ubuntu (especially windows it seems)

Edity

i pressed i hate hats, no more hats for meh.

c;

Kaz Wolfe

that YWOT keeps getting worse.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:33 AM

I was surprised I just got a new hat tonight... don't know why it was called "Epitamy" or something like that... didn't sound good so didn't research it :p

TheXed

I thought they where done doing the hat thing?

Edity

@KazWolfe clearing it

WinEunuuchs2Unix

January 9th according to Edity

(speak of the devil)

Watching Director Clapper and John McCain on Al-Jazeera just now.... all I can say is.... is... not much.

Can't wait till Trump takes office and he makes Ubuntu free for everyone on earth!!!!

Byte Commander

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Epiphany is a Christian holiday on Jan 6th.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix then on the 21st he will force everyone to install it...and Microsoft, Apple, and Canonical will all go under...

Mark Yisri

2:37 AM

i like vista and 7

Byte Commander

Last proper Windows OS was XP. And before that maybe 98 SE.

TheXed

@MarkYisri Windows 7 is still very popular...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@TheXed Nooooo he'll say free software is good for the third-world and disadvantaged visible mnorities in the USA and he'll tell them it exists.

@ByteCommander Thanks for Epiphany def... I met a girl from Ethiopia last week and she said... nvm.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix he isn't into helping the disadvantaged or minorities...

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander 98???

2000 all the way

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:39 AM

@TheXed When he tells them Ubuntu is free he'll be helping them.

TheXed

@Zacharee1 no Windows ME!

Zacharee1

@TheXed lol

Byte Commander

3.11

Zacharee1

well that was what made Windows popular

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix then he won't tell them.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:40 AM

Trump knows everyone working smarter will get more work done which is good for the US economy.

Obama and Bush promoted dumbed down society.

Zacharee1

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think Trump will probably spend most of our budget to avoid taxes

Byte Commander

Why don't we just call Windows "MS-DOS++" from now on? Short DOS++ is also ok.

Edity

who the hell is saying I have a fetish for catgirls

wtf, im getting pissed off

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander because Windows NT based OSes aren't DOS anymore?

TheXed

@Zacharee1 who taxes the government though?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:41 AM

budget and taxes don't literally exist they are a figment of the news imagination.

Zacharee1

@TheXed things that the president finds taxing and unimportant

TheXed

@ByteCommander because Windows isn't based on MS-DOS anymore...

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 still as bad.

I know.

But it was supposed to be funny.

Edity

@TheXed take it down

WinEunuuchs2Unix

School teachers complained to me of the taxes they have to pay and I tried to explain to them they were paid by tax dollars but they couldn't grasp the concept.

Edity

2:42 AM

please

Byte Commander

Mission failed.

TheXed

@Edity take what down?

Edity

i don't like people writing I have a fetish for catgirls

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander NOPE

Edity

the word of text thing

Zacharee1

2:42 AM

We do not joke about the OS which must not be mentioned

Edity

someone said I have a catgirl pillow

wtf

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Mint?

REHL?

Arch?

Edity

im getting pissed off

TheXed

Oh...I don't know...if I can...

Just close the tab...

Byte Commander

@Edity nobody cares about that worldoftext, but here in SE chat that statement will be archived forever.

Zacharee1

2:43 AM

lol

Edity

i'm mad.

im leaving to calm me down

brb in 1 hour

Byte Commander

Until we all die because of a solar supernovae or something similar at least.

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev hello we're totally being on topic right now

@ByteCommander a singular plural supernovae eh?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It's like 6 billion years to super nova they "guess".

Zacharee1

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think you'll be dead by the time it dies, don't worry

Byte Commander

2:44 AM

@Zacharee1 It's 4AM here, you expect me to grammar?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander yes

ALWAYS

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zacharee1 Good I was worried about 6 billion years trying to figure out suspend/resume.

GRAMMAR

gammaR

SLEEP BYE

2:45 AM

ciao

archive a dotchi

sign an arrow

add an oaf

@ByteCommander You remember sudo insults? My answer has been frozen and I got no more votes for a long time? : askubuntu.com/questions/837558/where-are-sudos-insults-stored

Edity

i've had it with that text crap

this freaking person who keeps mentioning catgirl

this is what happens if you leave it annoymous

TheXed

The anonymity is killing it... :-(

Edity

i'm 100% pissed off.

like this person

he keeps mentioning about how I like catgirls

TheXed

Yeah I wonder who it is...

Edity

and freaking says I have a catgirl pillow

wtf

@TheXed this is what happens dude.

TheXed

2:56 AM

I think I got it all cleaned off...

Journeyman Geek

@Edity this person wants a reaction

don't react.

Edity

dude

who is doing this

TheXed

@Edity is there more?

Edity

freaking pisses me off to hear that people think their safe and keeps posting crap about other people and ruin their days

@TheXed no

TheXed

@Edity...

I would kill it if I could...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:58 AM

you can but you won't

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I would love to, tell me how

WinEunuuchs2Unix

it's easy.... going to jail isn't

Edity

first i thought this was good stuff, now it turned to freaking shame

wth

Seth

@Edity really, no reason to care what a moron on the internet thinks. Especially if it's not true.

Edity

ikr

Seth

2:59 AM

:)

Edity

wtf is this person

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Edity Is this in AU rooms? @Seth can look into it I think.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix no, see the stop star.

Edity

i wish i was keemstar right now and go into blog tv and freaking go ham XD

WinEunuuchs2Unix

sorry I'm stop star challenged... want others to crash the room and flame them / him / her?

Edity

3:01 AM

@TheXed dude, please deactivate it quickly if theres a way. that feature just made my day worse

WinEunuuchs2Unix

DJ Keemstar aka Killer Keemstar (real name: Daniel Keem) is a YouTube content creator best known for his YouTube news show DramaAlert. Keemstar is well ...

Byte Commander

@WinEunuuchs2Unix It has not been frozen, @Mitch deleted it about 3 weeks ago. Don't know why, though.

Edity

@WinEunuuchs2Unix search up on youtube: keemstar on blog tv

your in for some swearing

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ByteCommander That was like my highest point thingy riding on your coattails of sudo insults...LOL... who is @Mitch? never seen him around here.

Byte Commander

One of our mods.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:03 AM

One of your mods... not one of mine... if so he would have had common curteousy to say something.

Byte Commander

Mitch ♦, GMT +3:00

66.7k 13 137 189

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ok thanks for BIO but that isn't helpful

Byte Commander

shrug

Edity

mitch.

when i first joined askubuntu

Byte Commander

Anyway, late enough for me.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:04 AM

Thanks for pointing that out though Byte

Byte Commander

May you continue this chat in peace.

Good night.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Go in peace :)

Edity

i didn't know what i did, so i just started posting crap and he deleted them and i got mad with him XD

@ByteCommander may you have great dreams.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

We'll get @NathanOsman to ban @Mitch from this chat room then @Edity ;)

Edity

i'm still angry.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix no.

it was my fault cuz I was the one posting bad posts X3

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:06 AM

oh well we've all posted bad posts starting out.

Edity

since the link is only on the chat, i suspect one of the people here is behind this.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

let's not go paranoid panda

Edity

freaking sherlock holmes XD

WinEunuuchs2Unix

lol

@NathanOsman will tell you about narcs in Lake Louise

Anyway.... you can't let the internet stress you out. Lots of fakes and posers you have to learn to ignore.

Like the things (people) that are likeable, ignore the riff-raff

Edity

@TheXed remove it please.

that world of text was a stupid idea.

not only i get freaking pissed, people think they can harrass who they want cuz their annoymous.

im freaking done.

TheXed

3:12 AM

@Edity Honestly, I don't know how

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Is there a link to this problem?

TheXed

yourworldoftext.com/askubuntu

WinEunuuchs2Unix

that link is ill-formatted on my screen

Kaz Wolfe

so we shut things down because one user gets mad? huh.

js, i'm pretty sure Serg, Byte, Seth, myself, and Zach were all really ragged on too

Edity

3:27 AM

bak.

@TheXed the reverser is online

come to that world of text thing

TheXed

Ugh...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I was kind of picked on myself / targetted by wjandrea today/tonight who used to be 3 times my rep only a few months ago but now I'm 3 times his her rep and they can't even do queue review yet. Maybe the person picking on you with cat pillow fights are jealous @Edity

Edity

lool]

@WinEunuuchs2Unix the target is from 4chan

someone posted this on /b/

TheXed

Oh...

geese,,,

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I used to be "overly-sensitive" one-on-one many years ago when I was young like you.... now I've learned to pick my battles and only fight the big fish and ignore the little fish.

Edity

3:36 AM

@TheXed exposed yet??

TheXed

@Edity no I still have my clothes on...there are other people in this room...

Edity

O_O_O_O

WinEunuuchs2Unix

and they accused me of TMI :p

Edity

well i met a 4chan guy

that's nice

TheXed

I noticed...

Edity

3:39 AM

yep

lesson learnt? @TheXed

TheXed

The lesson was for idiots not to post links on 4chan? (which I did not do btw)

Edity

nope

you forgot to..

TheXed

It was never my intent.

Edity

(idiot detected)

TheXed

How?

No you don't understand, I have no options...

Seth

3:44 AM

someone made an oops. haha.

TheXed

lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ that is clear and concise (NOT)

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix they never are...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

someone tell me how to list my disks (not partitions or blocks) in linux

TheXed

df -h?

Edity

3:50 AM

@TheXed cleared chat, made cool rule page. also, your "mod" there.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev
tmpfs 785M 30M 755M 4% /run
/dev/sdc3 29G 18G 9.9G 64% /
tmpfs 3.9G 163M 3.7G 5% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
cgmfs 100K 0 100K 0% /run/cgmanager/fs
tmpfs 785M 76K 785M 1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdb1 258G 154G 105G 60% /media/rick/ST9_Win7
/dev/sdd1 1.5G 1.5G 0 100% /media/rick/Ubuntu 17.04 amd64

doesn't work

I have 3 disks, I want 3 lines -- sdX, mfg name & model, drive size

TheXed

@Edity thank you for establishing some order...

Edity

its okay

everyone can now come back to yourworldoftext.com/askubuntu

TheXed

Please respect the rules.

Serg

4:06 AM

yay, silver scripts

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Did I tell you I got a gold for python yesterday?

LOL... don't waste your time looking.... I didn't tell you and I didn't get one :p

Serg

<.< wat

WinEunuuchs2Unix

congrats on silver scripts!

Serg

Thanks ( ^_^)b

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Can someone go back and tag older questions with scripts and get a medal?

Serg

4:12 AM

Hmmm, I don't know. Maybe ?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

That would be a good meta question.... Thing is of all the bash stuff I've posted, I don't every recall scripts tag being on the question.

edwinksl

what is that worldoftext thing

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I have no freaking idea.... but you can click on his link

yourworldoftext.com/askubuntu

anyway 3:45am comes early so I have to bid everyone good night :)

TheXed

Good night

Edity

@edwinksl xed made it: ask him over at the site

Seth

4:48 AM

I freaking hate netacad.

TheXed

who is netacad?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Alpha Prime Elite avy bodily by remutasatr on askubuntu.com

Nathan Osman

5:18 AM

Argh.

That moment when you realize your complex algorithm has a fundamental flaw.

After you are 90% done coding it.

Mudit Kapil

Can a community help person like me who lives in acute stress and manifest with so many diseases due to environmental factors mainly relatives constantly nagging you and living with you.

Journeyman Geek

@MuditKapil dude. Yeah, you have issues. This isn't the appropriate place for it

As you have been told quite a few times.

Mudit Kapil

ok sorry

Nathan Osman

Dependency resolution is hard.

I am trying to allow plugins for my app to depend on each other.

There is added difficulty because plugins are unloaded asynchronously.

But I have an idea: reference counting (with an extra reference added for the plugin itself).

Serg

5:42 AM

@TheXed cisco networking academy apparently

Zanna

6:23 AM

@Zacharee1 <3

edwinksl

oh our AU ambassador is here

Zanna

6:34 AM

lol

going to represent AU in the fridge right now to see what's for breakfast

Serg

@Zanna ssh Zanna@fridge sh -c "grep 'tasty stuff' *"

Considering the rise of IoT stuff, it's probably totally possible to ssh to fridges nowadays . . . Or at least put a raspberry pi on top and run a 5 MP camera into the fridge.

edwinksl

@Zanna yum yum, please report your findings

Mitch

7:11 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Mistake un-done :) Plus I don't think @NathanOsman would do such a thing to me ( ban me for AU) :) :)

Journeyman Geek

bans mitch

BANS ALL THE PEOPLE

2

edwinksl

woah, rage ban

Zanna

@edwinksl @Serg we got chocolate coconut yogurt, pineapple, date & walnut granola, dried apricots

Serg

that yogurt sounds delicious . . . even if i'm not a big yogurt fan

Mitch

@JourneymanGeek lol

Serg

7:20 AM

actually i'm getting hungry too

Zanna

7:38 AM

heh it's not real yogurt, no dairy, tastes more like... creamy chocolate mousse haha

Serg

Live stream from space station: youtube.com/watch?v=qzMQza8xZCc

2

Zanna

awesome

look at the aurora... so cool

Serg

yeah, amazing

Fabby

@Serg starred!

Serg

7:59 AM

Things like that make me feel quite emotional

Fabby

@Serg You're too good for this world!

;)

Serg

@Fabby good ? nah. Too soft of a character ? Definitely

Zanna

yeah I totally start crying at any earth-from-space picture... actually just taking off in a plane sets me off

Fabby

@Zanna Crying in a plane is OK, praying loudly while holding a cardboard box is not...

>:-) ;)

nydailynews.com/news/national/…

Serg

Looking at the middle image , the station will be passing over India. Pity it's not over anywhere in China. Although it does go over Black Sea and pretty close to Ukraine

@Fabby the article starts off with "What schmucks." I don't blame them. Ain't nobody wants to risk having another 9/11 attack

Fabby

8:28 AM

I would have said: do your praying at home long before boarding the plane

>:-)

Serg

8:58 AM

that too

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