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Anwar

6:00 AM

looks like it was trying to create a mailroom service.

Kaz Wolfe

er... i don't know to be honest

Anwar

configuration stops there?

Kaz Wolfe

yep

Recipe: runit::upstart
  * cookbook_file[/etc/init/gitlab-runsvdir.conf] action create (up to date)
  * execute[initctl reload-configuration] action run
    [execute] initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused

    ================================================================================
    Error executing action `run` on resource 'execute[initctl reload-configuration]'
    ================================================================================

Full trace

Zanna

@edwinksl sigh idk what they can do

Kaz Wolfe

6:15 AM

why is WSL so annoying

all i want is upstart

Anwar

why you need WSL if you're using linux?

Kaz Wolfe

because i don't have a working linux env anymore

well, not server-side

and well, i'm too lazy to reboot and fix my ubuntu.

Anwar

I haven't find anything useful to your issue. your question comes as number #3 when searched

Kaz Wolfe

already..?

well, hopefully someone will have a good idea,

Anwar

I have one :P

start using real Linux

Kaz Wolfe

6:18 AM

but then i have to reboot

and my system takes quite literally takes 15 minutes to boot in any os

Anwar

hmm...

Kaz Wolfe

i need a new pc

Anwar

well, there was a debian project to reboot quickly. i forgot the name

it just swaps the kernel at some point and reboots. doesn't transfer control to bios.

Kaz Wolfe

system still takes forever to actually boot which is really annoying

i might just wipe this pc clean, but the hardware still sucks.

technology is hard

plus i can't be bothered to reboot. so wsl

well, linux boots in under a minute.

windows takes a decent 10 minutes. and windows has some critical crap.

Anwar

clean install Windose

Kaz Wolfe

6:28 AM

that would require my reinstalling of Adobe CS and Office and junk.

Anwar

:(

Kaz Wolfe

not fun. especially because some licenses are non-transferrable because companies suck.

Anwar

oops!

Kaz Wolfe

i've seriously considered it.

but i really don't want to have to buy about $850 of software again. If I could, I'd buy a new and actual desktop.

Anwar

fair point

#MakeWindowsGreatAgain then?

Kaz Wolfe

6:30 AM

the problem as to why i need windows...

One word: Optimus

If I need any sort of accelerated graphics, I have to be in Windows

that and office and Adobe CS.

Anwar

and you're a gamer ...

Kaz Wolfe

and the occasional game. WINE can't emulate all of these, which sucks

yeah. i could use GIMP. No, it's a pain when everyone you work with is throwing PSDs around, and you already know PS.

windows is such a key part of the marketplace for pro-grade and gamer-grade stuff that it's impossible to leave :(

Anwar

true

Kaz Wolfe

trust me, i'd love to wipe this and just go Linux only, but I lose too much to make it worth it.

Plus, back to my question for a second, it's still valid for this case. It's a problem with WSL that needs fixing.

It's a promising platform if things like this work. I get to keep Windows but use all of the benefits of running on Linux

like being able to do all the command-line things, and actually use linux tools/utils

i'd rather it be WSL be a component of Linux, not Linux being a component of Windows, but meh.

Anwar

try some good windows cleaner then. but I can't recommend anyone. I am not using windows for a long time

have you seen the workaround posted on that issue? 7 days ago?

Kaz Wolfe

6:38 AM

tried that

Nicolas Raoul

Stupid question: Where to download Skype 1.7 for Linux Alpha? I haven't been able to find it on the official website nor on the official forums...

Anwar

oh. it was in your question. my bad

Kaz Wolfe

@NicolasRaoul google-chrome-stable and just go to skype.com

Anwar

@NicolasRaoul here skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux

Kaz Wolfe

or there --^

they're actually quite literally the same thing.

Anwar

6:40 AM

haven't tested yet

Nicolas Raoul

No, that downloads the old "4.3.0" version

Kaz Wolfe

community.skype.com/t5/Linux/…

Anwar

skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading-web/…

Nicolas Raoul

@KazWolfe: Thanks! :-)

Anwar

^ for deb

Kaz Wolfe

6:42 AM

@NicolasRaoul np. glad to be useful.

edwinksl

@KazWolfe that's the correct one i think

Kaz Wolfe

HATS IN THREE MONTHS :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

edwinksl

?

Kaz Wolfe

winterbash

you've been here for them

Anwar

are those important?

Kaz Wolfe

6:47 AM

yes.

they are the most important thing on the site

edwinksl

wtf hats

Anwar

what?? how?

Kaz Wolfe

@edwinksl You've been here for FIVE YEARS. How have you never participated in the WinterBash?

edwinksl

i have done my fair share of farming hats in dota but i didn't expect to do that here in SE

@KazWolfe no

Kaz Wolfe

ack.

tl;dr, over the winter, we all get hats sorta like badges.

Anwar

6:48 AM

I never

Kaz Wolfe

and we get to wear them across the network

and it's awesome fun.

edwinksl

my account was mostly used for lurking

andrew.46

Southern Hemisphere has just had winter :(

Kaz Wolfe

i fear for having Edity with Winterbash. That could be fun.

edwinksl

what does one have to do

Anwar

6:49 AM

they gave me some hats. I didn't wear

Kaz Wolfe

winterbash2015.stackexchange.com

stackpromos.com/promos/15/winter-bash-2014

stackpromos.com/promos/14/winter-bash-2013

stackpromos.com/promos/12/winter-bash-2012

edwinksl

@KazWolfe leaderboard is not loading :/

Kaz Wolfe

this is the 2015 archive

hats are coming back in roughly three months.

AHAHAH IT COMPILES

YOUR MOVE, ORACLE

hi @StefanoPalazzo. We were talking about awesome hats!

Andy K

hi

quick one

I have 2 servers on ubuntu , one on aws and the other one on digital ocean

Kaz Wolfe

yeah?

Andy K

7:01 AM

I'm trying to have all my python packages from my aws server to my digital one

I've used pip

but it gives me error

Kaz Wolfe

so, you're trying to sync all the pip-installed packages over to your other server?

Nathan Osman

Cool: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file

Kaz Wolfe

or just programs you've written in Python yourself?

Andy K

@KazWolfe yes this is it

the issue is I have errors

Kaz Wolfe

Okay, then you just need to move them.

You can use something like scp to copy a tarball of all of your Python scripts over.

I'm assuming PIP is saying they don't exist in any remote repository?

protip: do not give me swords because I know how to use them, and i like showing off.

Andy K

7:07 AM

@KazWolfe this is what I've done

pip freeze > freeze.lst

(for aws)

Kaz Wolfe

yeah. that would work, if your code was a pip repository.

I'd hazard a guess that it's just in your local repo? (The specific error would be nice)

Andy K

and then do that

pip install -U -r freeze.lst

Nathan Osman

Heh - there's one for spam too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTUBE

Andy K

and this is the kind of error I have

  Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement apt-xapian-index==0.45 (from -r freeze.lst (line 1)) (from versions: )
No matching distribution found for apt-xapian-index==0.45 (from -r freeze.lst (line 1))

this is my first time

Kaz Wolfe

huh. one second please.

and apt-xapian-index is not homebrew code?

Andy K

7:15 AM

@KazWolfe nope

Kaz Wolfe

okay one sec, thanks for that info.

Did you install the apt-xapian-index package on the DO server?

Andy K

@KazWolfe should I...?

Kaz Wolfe

You should, such that the pip module gets exposed.

Andy K

what is that module btw?

Kaz Wolfe

Not sure really, some indexing thing.

Andy K

7:18 AM

I've installed it and this is what I have

Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
apt-xapian-index is already the newest version (0.45ubuntu4).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[andykw:/home/andykw]$ pip install -U -r freeze.lst
Collecting apt-xapian-index==0.45 (from -r freeze.lst (line 1))

Kaz Wolfe

hm. interesting.

Ask a question on the main site about this, as I'm honestly not sure. If you have the Xapian indexer installed, pip should pick up the dependency and use it.

Really though, I'd just move your code over and resolve whatever dependency errors pop up.

Less trouble than freezing/moving/playing around with pip

Andy K

@KazWolfe for now, there are no code, just some python packages I've installed. Aim is to have standardized env

Kaz Wolfe

ah, i see. Yeah, I'd ask a question because this is gonna be a long answer.

Andy K

migrating from one server with the same distro seems already a pain. I forgot why some time, Linux gives me headache. Let me write a question. Cheers Kaz

Kaz Wolfe

np, sorry i couldn't be more help.

pip is annoying

Andy K

7:22 AM

where is my chainsaw actually? : DD

Kaz Wolfe

wtf. my malwarebytes subscription expired

:(

Zanna

@edwinksl haha sorry for my useless comment :)

edwinksl

@Zanna oh it is useful actually. i was writing my answer in the context of a REPL but i should generalize it a little more

Zanna

not sure why your good answer there got overlooked...

edwinksl

ha, i was mostly writing for myself and i was annoyed by the useless warnings that i can't do anything about :/

Zanna

7:33 AM

annoying!

it often makes a nice answer when you've had the problem yourself...

"takes a second to lock the screen" really some people want too much...

Anwar

tempted to DV that one

Zanna

I have done

nah I won't

I'll save my votes

for cleanup

Anwar

tagged with time

Zanna

I wanna downvote the python one

Anwar

which one?

Zanna

7:38 AM

wrong tag... pending edit so can't edit (I could have improved the edit to bypass this, but I clicked approve... even though it was a trivial edit really) (maybe I should go back to bed... 5 hours sleep was not enough and so far I am not doing well!)

this askubuntu.com/questions/825103/…

I have a strace from a really simple command lsb_release -i -s

would anyone like to guess the output of...

grep /usr/lib/python3 strace.out | wc -l

Anwar

empty line?

Zanna

268

so when I do lsb_release -i -s some python3 libraries get used 268 times... no wonder the system is broken if you randomly start deleting those libraries

edwinksl

yeah i don't get why OP would delete things in /usr/lib

it is like my brother randomly deleting DLLs back in windows 98 "for fun" and i came home to a completely borked desktop

Zanna

>_<

Have you set foo as a variable inside fetch.sh? — Arronical 16 hours ago

@Arronical my money is on no... XD

Anwar

7:54 AM

One does not simply delete libraries from /usr/lib — Anwar 12 secs ago

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Since you were being too nice. I have done the duty :P

Zanna

thanks for picking up my slack <3 @Anwar

edwinksl

@Zanna the lock is basically instantaneous to the human eye. it is the fading of the screen that takes one second but it is already locked

Zanna

smh

answer it @edwinksl

edwinksl

lol yeah i was doing a few more tests and nothing i typed did anything the moment i hit Super+L

Anwar

:)

Zanna

7:58 AM

nice work :)

Anwar

or you can answer like this "lock the screen 1 second before you stand up from your sit"

edwinksl

i can't think of a DE where the lock isn't actually instantaneous

Anwar

KDE takes more than 1 seconds here

edwinksl

to fade?

unity also takes about a second (maybe less but i have a toaster)

Anwar

yes. to lock. less than 1 second

almost instantaneous

andrew.46

8:06 AM

Final attempt to reopen one of my old and not so good questions:

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Q: How to install Python 3.5.1 on Wily Werewolf 15.10?

Python 3.5.1 came out on December 7th 2015 and as a beginner Python coder I would like to try the very newest version on my Ubuntu installation. At the moment Wily Werewolf 15.10 ships version 3.4 and there are some great improvements in the newest version. I am currently running Wily Werewolf a...

Man that always makes me jump.....

Zanna

@andrew.46 wily is EOL though!

andrew.46

Indeed, but that duplicate has always burned a little :)

Zanna

@edwinksl I love your "alas" - I am rofl

Anwar

@andrew.46 you used deadsnakes?

andrew.46

Anyway I have written up the case for reopen and then I have to man up up and forget what was quite a bad question :(

Zanna

8:09 AM

Do you want it to be reopened only to close as EOL?

andrew.46

No, did not have the right version

Zanna

as dupe it's a signpost, as EOL it might be deleted

edwinksl

@Zanna i was really hoping there was a bug with the lock not being instantaneous so then maybe someone like serg can come along and write a script to fix it :p

andrew.46

@Zanna Reopen and then left to sleep :)

Zanna

@andrew.46 but we don't like that!

andrew.46

8:10 AM

It is a Jan 9 question when Wily was all the rage

Zanna

@edwinksl no that question deserves a desultory answer "alas, my attempt to open many terminals failed, but somehow I managed to get on with my life"

Anwar

@andrew.46 you can edit your question saying the prescribed PPA doesn't provide Python 3.5 for Wily

andrew.46

And not eol at that time

Anwar

but then it's still an EOL now

Zanna

yes

but if it's EOL now, then it is no repro

andrew.46

8:11 AM

@Anwar That has been added

Anyways it is an old question that should not bother me any more I know

Anwar

I voted to re-open since the question is solved

andrew.46

Different story if I posted a Wily question now, that should be shut down fast but an older question that was posted in Wily-time is not eol

I think.....

Zanna

oh I didn't notice that it was answered, I take back everything I said

voted to reopen

my apologies

Anwar

The Q is closed on Jan 9 as being duplicate and edited to remove duplicity. And since it's a solved question. I thought it should stay

Zanna

I pretty much never VTC a question with an accepted answer

edwinksl

8:15 AM

i do like the docker solution. most people just answer with deadsnakes ppa, so nice to see something different that would have worked for 15.10

Anwar

I too first didn't notice it has an accepted answer.

andrew.46

And in lighter news: I am going on a short ocean cruise tomorrow :)

Zanna

upvoted Q & A, I am sorry

edwinksl

somehow i had upvoted the answer but i don't recall doing it

Zanna

where are you cruising?

andrew.46

8:16 AM

It is one of those refit things where they cruise out in the ocean for a while and then turn around

The theme is 'knitting'

believe it or not

edwinksl

@andrew.46 it has been reopened btw

andrew.46

Magic, thanks all who looked at the question. Now to forget about Python and wily forever

edwinksl

i see the deadsnakes ppa has 3.5 for 15.04 but not 15.10?

that seems odd to me

andrew.46

My wife knits not me

Zanna

are we enough humble ones here or was there a little divine intervention?

@andrew.46 then what will you do? watch the ever-changing beautiful horizon?

andrew.46

8:23 AM

I have an old kindle that I have loaded up. Re-reading 'The Passage' trilogy

Cronin?

Beautiful series

And watch the ever-changing beautiful horizon

edwinksl

??? askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/617353

@andrew.46 awesome, remember to take pictures and share here

Zanna

@Rinzwind not to worry :)

andrew.46

@edwinksl 'I am not resting, I am not rusting' is a good line :)

Zanna

@edwinksl !!!

@edwinksl seconded

Rinzwind

@Zanna 65 already :=D

edwinksl

8:36 AM

@andrew.46 that was in response to dufte's comment i think ;P

Please dont get me wrong - but that wont happen. Sounds like sticking to steam-trains only, while we are already working on electric-cars. There might be for sure down-sides with newer technologies - but thats as well valid for older technology. In germany we say: if you rest - you rust. — dufte 2 days ago

that is a great german saying

andrew.46

OIC had not heard that one before

What are some other great german sayings?

Whatever you do: youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

Anwar

@edwinksl +1 for that. but giving me error here :(

KeyError: 'SATA_LINKPWR_BLACKLIST'

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Cant ssh from my ip but can from other ips

So I installed denyhosts, DenyHosts is a script intended to be run by Linux system administrators to help thwart SSH server attacks (also known as dictionary based attacks and brute force attacks). It did not even finish installing and everyone connected to server gets disconnected. I reboot the...

ubuntu ssh denyhosts

edwinksl

huh, let me try

i didn't see a bug report for that, so i just assumed it would just work OOTB :p

Anwar

i'm currently on kde. I'll test on gnome later

Zanna

8:45 AM

@Rinzwind nice... zero for me so far

edwinksl

@Anwar i suspect kde might be missing some of the gtk libraries needed

the repo is not super clear about the exact dependencies :/

Zanna

@Rinzwind at least 10 is from me...

Anwar

@edwinksl the error is not for missing libraries I think

... may be it is..

edwinksl

@Anwar did the GUI even open for you?

Anwar

nah

edwinksl

8:47 AM

ah mine opened

but i don't have TLP :p

so i basically see an empty window

Anwar

lol

Zanna

what are you talking about?

edwinksl

@Zanna askubuntu.com/questions/825163/…

Anwar

you know what?

tlp version 0.9 blacklists SATA thing using a key download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.2/repo/oss/ChangeLog

Zanna

@edwinksl errors out for me too... quite unhelpfully

Anwar

8:53 AM

the key is 'SATA_LINKPWR_BLACKLIST'

Zanna

yeah

Anwar

and Ubuntu uses version 0.8

Zanna

I upvote anyway

Anwar

the gui application is using that key, and tlp version 0.6 doesn't have that key. throwing an error

edwinksl

@Anwar sounds like you should file a bug report :p

Zanna

8:55 AM

I should mark myself as affected...

Anwar

the solution would compile yourself version 0.9

edwinksl

there is a PPA for TLP launchpad.net/~linrunner/+archive/ubuntu/tlp

edwinksl

9:19 AM

heh ok it does need tlp 0.9

need to update answer

Arronical

Good "$local_time_of_day" everyone.

@Zanna I think an answer may be in order.

Zanna

good morning :)

yes, go for it

easy audit! askubuntu.com/review/low-quality-posts/617386

edwinksl

ahha

Arronical

I had to visit a client's site this morning to switch their server back on after a power cut. It should just work after pressing the power button, but only boots if there's a monitor attached! I have a feeling that it's sat at the grub menu as it switches off super quickly if not booted, but can't test my hypothesis. Would a question about this be closed as OT as it may be hardware related?

Zanna

I can't understand this... askubuntu.com/questions/825187/…

Arronical

9:33 AM

FYI, Google helps enormously with these simple questions — Anwar 3 mins ago

Hahaha!

Zanna

lol @Anwar

@Arronical Personally I don't think it would be off topic... at least until proven otherwise

Arronical

@Zanna I think they need to clarify a bit, I imagine that they want to paste a bunch of commands in their terminal and have them automatically run, but it's not clear whether this is a terminal app.

Takkat

Yeah Google answers all questions giving AU links in the first entries: google.com/search?q=how+do+I+do+this+in+Ubuntu

Zanna

I VTC the fetch.sh question as unclear until they answer your question & show a usable snippet, but are you answering?

@Arronical apparently not as unclear as I thought since it already has 2 answers!

Arronical

@Zanna Think I might, it is pretty unclear, but I think an answer that explains quoting and variable assignment would help. There was an answer deleted from the super system engineer this morning I think.

Zanna

9:39 AM

heh my tee tag wiki edit was approved - I made this badly drawn diagram myself since I couldn't find one askubuntu.com/tags/tee/info

@Arronical yeah Senior Systems Engineer said this:

Well can you try the following and check it works .

from prompt: me@host:~$ fetch.sh >> log.foo

kind of makes you worry about those systems...

Arronical

@Zanna I forgot 'Senior'! I can't see any answers on that Q

Zanna

it was deleted

but I can see it

@Arronical yes I think that would help :) I'm standing by to upvote!

edwinksl

@Zanna i vividly remember seeing a diagram in wikipedia for tee en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tee_(command)

Arronical

@Zanna Struts about flaunting mod tools

Zanna

@edwinksl I found it, but it's incorrect

edwinksl

9:43 AM

@Zanna oh lol why is the arrow pointing the wrong way :/

Zanna

@Arronical bwhahaha I just can't help it

Arronical

@Zanna Replace the wikipedia diagram too!

Zanna

@edwinksl maybe I'm wrong, and the flow is from stdout to stdin? 0.o

floor is ceiling and I am a bat...

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edwinksl

@Zanna hahahaha someone should fix that wikipedia picture. maybe you should replace it with your hand-drawn one :p

Zanna

lol

Hi @ByteCommander :)

edwinksl

9:50 AM

i can't unsee that wikipedia diagram

someone please change it

Zanna

I am looking at the edit page but I can't figure out where to paste my URL haha

Byte Commander

hi :)

Sandro

I want to reinstall Ubuntu alongside win10 should I have to do any setting in power option

You know 2 years ago I wanted to do install Ubuntu alongside win8 and somebody told me that I have to do some setting in power option in win8

I completely forget that setting wanted to know is that true

terdon

@Zanna Yes, that's right. It's taking the stdout of ls and passing it to the stdin of less.

There's nothing wrong with the picture as far as I can tell

If you mean this, anyway:

image not found

10:01 AM

ok :)

Hello I'm here no body see me :(

terdon

So, the arrow is correct. It indicates that tee is taking the stdout of one program and passing it as stdin of another.

@Sandro No, we see you. Have a look at

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A: Installing Ubuntu on a Pre-Installed Windows 10 with UEFI

If you are using Ubuntu 16.04+, many issues are now solved, so there is no need to follow this guide except if you are using any Ubuntu version older than 15.04. Depending on the version you are using (12.04, 14.04, 14.10) you might need all or some of the steps provided in this answer, or if you...

Zanna

OK, I get that, but isn't it a bit misleading

terdon

And please take a moment to search the site, the internet etc before asking here.

@Zanna Not really. Well, I didn't find it so, anyway. If you did, it obviously is misleading but the other way around would have seemed completely wrong to me.

What would you have preferred to see? It is not describing the operation of one program, it is describing a pipe. And that takes stdout and pipes it to stdin.

Zanna

10:05 AM

I mean, it is stdin for less, but to illustrate what tee does by itself

with no extra plumbing

terdon

@Zanna Tee takes stdout from one process and i) passes it to a file (down arrow) and ii) to the stdin of another process (right arow)

So yes, it goes from stdout to stdin

Zanna

OK :)

edwinksl

man tee says "tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files"

is there something subtle here that i am not fully getting?

Zanna

^

terdon

Well, OK, tee itself just diverts its stdin to a file descriptor and then, just like any other program, takes its stdin and prints it to stdout. However, since it's almost never used by itself, the workflow is indeed stdout of X --- (tee)--> stdin of Y

edwinksl

10:07 AM

is one man's stdout somehow another man's stdin?

terdon

@edwinksl Yes. That's what echo foo | wc is. The stdout of echo is the stdin of wc. That's what pipes do

edwinksl

right

ok

terdon

Tee is basically a man in the middle attack :P

Arronical

I think it's the pipes that make it confusing, perhaps the diagram should show that the pipe converts stdout of the first command to stdin, which is passed to tee.

Zanna

out of ls -> in of tee -> out of tee -> in of less
                                      -> somefile

edwinksl

10:15 AM

Zanna

lol

terdon

@Arronical That's what the yellow arrow is supposed to show. Note that it links stdin to stdout. Tee is only the big blue one

Arronical

I understand it, and now looking at it in a different light, the stdin and stdout labels are within the peach coloured boxes containing the command names.

terdon

Yep