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WinEunuuchs2Unix

8:00 PM

^^^ Next year that guy will post "2017 has been literally the worst year ever!"

Videonauth

@seth let me check

Serg

@Zacharee1 Maybe that guy should ask how Syria feels about 2016

Seth

@Videonauth please disable all extensions and try again.

Hizqeel

2

best selfie of the year

Serg

Frankly I hate when people try to compare hardships, because we as humans live in the moment and taking everything subjectively, but whatever rocks your boat

Videonauth

8:10 PM

@Seth Just did and reloaded, now checking

Seth

k. Those errors seem to have more to do with an extension or userscript than SE itself.

Zacharee1

@Serg have 6 million people died?

Because that sounds pretty terrible

Serg

@Zacharee1 So , legitimacy of a hardship is counted in how many people die ? It's a tragedy when one person or millions die of unnatural cause ( or lets call it as it is - straight up murder )

Zacharee1

@Serg no

Videonauth

@Seth yes seems so, now it works on my side too, but now to find out which script is the culprit -.-

Seth

8:15 PM

@Serg we're talking about "worst year ever". If we mean in your direct experiences, sure, maybe it was. But if we really mean "ever" then no. Not by a long shot.

@Videonauth Do you have HTTPS everywhere?

Kaz Wolfe

Why my system is broken: I use sudo apt purge to fix problems.

Zacharee1

@Serg it's not what I believe, but the tweet is obviously basing it off that.

Videonauth

Seth

@Serg I think ultimately the author of that tweet is getting at the same thing you are. Calling 2016 the worst year ever as an American is just downright silly.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth I use HTTPS Everywhere, no problem :/

Seth

8:17 PM

@Videonauth start with noscript and greasemonkey IMO

@KazWolfe yeah, not likely it. SE fixed all those bugs I think

Videonauth

@Seth activating back you mean ?

Seth

@Videonauth yeah. One at a time. Then test.

Serg

@Seth That twitter post is twisting what every person might say subjectively into something that's not worth arguing about. We're humans have all have feelings. Just because there was something bad happening years ago, doesn't mean I can't have subjective opinion on my own experience. It's kind of like saying "you're not allowed to feel anything because of that event to which you have no connection and never experienced whatsoever".

But since we're on the topic of history, I was currious and googled the "worst year in history" and found this: theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/12/…

Kaz Wolfe

um... something seems wrong?

Serg

IMHO, maybe we should focus on the coming year. Let's make 2017 great ( not again, just great and awesome ). Let's make a few people happy here and there, maybe donate to a few charities here and there. Maybe improve our beloved AU , here and there.

@KazWolfe looks like regular TCP transmission wave to me

Kaz Wolfe

8:24 PM

no, i mean the speeds.

Serg

@KazWolfe what about them ?

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe it'll download in no time! :D

@Serg he's trying to download a Steam game

arda

@KazWolfe that's my speeds all the time :(

Kaz Wolfe

at 50 kbps.

which makes no sense. i have a 3 Mbps (300 KBps) pipe.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe by the time it finishes, there will be no concept of time left. So, it'll be done in no time.

Serg

8:26 PM

Ah, Steam. The downloads on Windows used to take like 4 - 5 hours. I don't miss that at all

Kaz Wolfe

I'm the only one using this pipe right now.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe eww. Isn't it more like 375 though?

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 yeah, i usually just divide by 10 instead of 8.

overheads, etc.

Seth

@Serg I'm just.. not gonna reply to that and move on.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe Steam tends to deprioritize itself, especially when minimized. Close any streams you have open and keep the window active.

@Seth wat

@KazWolfe makes sense. It's easier too

Kaz Wolfe

8:27 PM

the plans my ISP has ;-;

@Zacharee1 there's nothing else using priority.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe no other bandwidth hogs?

Kaz Wolfe

Across the entire network. Steam's been permitted to take 100% of the pipe.

save for AU chat, nothing else should be online.

Zacharee1

Steam does its priority thing automatically

Serg

@Seth :) It's perfectly fine. Whatever opinion you may have there, I respect that. I don't know what it is and might not agree, but keep in mind that I do respect that

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe usually price hops get smaller as they increase....

Kaz Wolfe

8:29 PM

@Zacharee1 hah no.

Serg

inb4 freedom of speech , acting like adult, and all that jazz

Kaz Wolfe

My ISP is extremely stupid.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe if you have the window minimized or inactive, Steam will slow way down

Kaz Wolfe

I have half a mind to just JTAG into my Ubiquiti device and manually change my throttle speeds.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe it's just a wisp of a full ISP :D

Videonauth

8:30 PM

@Seth it was greasemonkey, or one of the scripts i have on there

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe and Cat5e the XLTE

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 that makes no sense.

JTAG = direct port to interface with flash devices, typically used for debugging.

it allows me to bypass admin passwords, etc. and get into the config files over a console.

(or better, get into the serial port for the device)

Serg

I thought it stands for Japanese Tasty Asparagus with Greens

Kaz Wolfe

JTAG

The Joint Test Action Group (JTAG) is an electronics industry association formed in 1985 for developing a method of verifying designs and testing printed circuit boards after manufacture. In 1990 the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers codified the results of the effort in IEEE Standard 1149.1-1990, entitled Standard Test Access Port and Boundary-Scan Architecture. JTAG implements standards for on-chip instrumentation in electronic design automation (EDA) as a complementary tool to digital simulation. It specifies the use of a dedicated debug port implementing a serial communications...

Technically it's called a "JTAG Port" but meh.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe it was just my first reaction to what you said :p

Kaz Wolfe

8:33 PM

for once, something that looks like meaningless technobabble actually makes perfect sense

hah.

Serg

Well , I'm gonna go search for my pressure gauge thingy in the mean time

Videonauth

@Seth you wanna know which script was the bad boy ?

elsni

Now, I asked a question, but I need some help to be investigate and to be more specific (i.e. which log files should be includen in the question etc.). Can I get some help with that here? Thanks in advance!

http://askubuntu.com/questions/864801

Seth

8:48 PM

@Videonauth I'm not worried about it if you fixed it.

Might want to fix your meta question though

Videonauth

gist: This is a userscript that adds shortcuts for adding <kbd> tags to posts. Designed for Stack Exchange sites., 2012-04-24 05:06:02Z

Add_kbd_shortcut.user.js

Seth

@Videonauth Ah yes. $( ).live() was deprecated in 2013 so that makes sense.

Videonauth

just writing an answer and will edit solved tag into my question

weird thing is, i found this on stack apps

maybe there should someone make sure no one else uses this script further

arda

OH SNAP

hyper.is beautiful

Thomas Ward

@Videonauth and by "this" you meant...?

Videonauth

8:57 PM

0

A: Is putting up bounties broken?

O.k. I found out what has caused this mess: https://gist.github.com/BrockA/2476594 A script to add <kbd> shortcut functionality to the site A greasemonkey script which is terrible outdated it seems but still is to be found on http://stackapps.com/questions/3341/kbd-markup-shortcuts

Seth

@Videonauth leave a comment on the post

Videonauth

@Seth yep will do for sure

Seth

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WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ Rename company ORACLEgal

Videonauth

9:14 PM

I can'T help it, i would feel bad eating it, it is so nice made

Seth

I would just eat it.

After taking a picture.

Zanna

that's awesome...

edwinksl

@arda wow nice

Kaz Wolfe

@arda o.o

we need you in this room more

arda

@KazWolfe haha ok

Kaz Wolfe

9:23 PM

@Videonauth so many disconnected items on that board.

plus traces that go nowhere

i give it a 2/10 for circuit design

Videonauth

If i would have a girlfriend who would make me something like this she would 10/10 out of everything and for everything :)) (I'm so bad at baking cakes, but love to eat em)

Kaz Wolfe

plus i think some of the IC pins are shorting, but I can't get the datasheet to see if that's intentional or not.

hmm... i wonder if there's a bioshock master collection, and if i should get it.

\o/ Linux support!

Serg

9:42 PM

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg ewwww "share if"

Zacharee1

9:56 PM

@KazWolfe deceptive marketing at its finest.

@KazWolfe 1like = 1can

Serg

Tis a season to be sharing fafafafafafa fafafa facebook

Lol

fsck facebook

Fsckbook

Facebook is fscking itself for a long time, dontcha worry bout dat

@Zacharee1 that actually exists

Zacharee1

9:59 PM

Shady sites' ads have told me that....

That was before I knew about AdBlock

Kaz Wolfe

god i hate tech companies

"you bought this equipment and paid for it, but you have no right to modify it"

Zacharee1

Lol, Apple

I know you mean your WISP

Kaz Wolfe

and it's either our WISP (terrible), Verizon (10 GB cap), or a Satellite provider.

Zacharee1

Verizon has 100gb plans

For like 500 a month but you know...

Serg

Welp i couldnt find my pressure gauge which means ive no way of knowing tire pressure in my car, which also means i cant go anywhere till i pump up my tires

I hate cars

Zacharee1

10:02 PM

@KazWolfe do you get ATT or TMO there?

Or even Sprint?

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 no and no and no.

Zacharee1

Sigh

Kaz Wolfe

plus tmo will only provide us like 21gb (even with unlimited) before throttling.

Zacharee1

26

But they only throttle in congested areas

Kaz Wolfe

whatever the 3% cutoff is.

Zacharee1

10:03 PM

It's different every time I look :p

But you're only throttled if there are too many other devices

Kaz Wolfe

it's t-mobile.

Zacharee1

It's not a guarantee slow down, you're just deprioritized

Kaz Wolfe

they can just say "oh, your network is congested, toodles"

you're acting like a telco company will be nice. We know that's false.

Zacharee1

Yell at customer service long enough, and you'll get a bill of $-40

Kaz Wolfe

next month: "Customer Service Fees: $80"

Zacharee1

10:06 PM

Nope

Kaz Wolfe

it's 28GB now.

Zacharee1

Lol

Kaz Wolfe

1 min ago, by Kaz Wolfe

you're acting like a telco company will be nice. We know that's false.

Zacharee1

I mean 28GB isn't that bad

Kaz Wolfe

oh?

Serg

10:07 PM

80 tabs in my chrome on mobile

I think i need to rethink my browsing

Zacharee1

> To provide the best possible experience for the most possible customers, we prioritize the data usage of a small percentage of our data customers who use the highest amount of data (as of 10/28/16, more than 28GB) below that of other customers in times and locations where there are competing customer demands for network resources. We also prioritize smartphone and mobile internet (tablet) over Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (tethering) traffic on our network. Click here for more information.

Kaz Wolfe

give me one second, @Zacharee1

Zacharee1

From the T&C

They don't mention throttling. It's just deprioritization

So if there are no other devices on the tower, you won't have a problem.

Kaz Wolfe

my computer's doing that pingspike bs.

again, bcmwl is stupid.

Zacharee1

And it specifically says it only happens in places where there are competing devices

Kaz Wolfe

10:12 PM

PING 10.0.2.1 (10.0.2.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.2.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=5964 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.2.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=5663 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.2.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=4899 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.2.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=4410 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.2.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=3637 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.2.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=2846 ms

Zacharee1

Christ

Kaz Wolfe

also, yeah, zach, you're right. 28GB isn't bad at all.

Zacharee1

Weekly??????

Seth

o_O

this isn't your mobile, is it?

Zacharee1

It's his home

Seth

10:14 PM

well that's not too bad then.

Kaz Wolfe

yes.

edwinksl

isn't it still a lot

Kaz Wolfe

and i'm doing a 2000 ping test, will post results when it's done.

Seth

slightly high, but not too bad.

edwinksl

i doubt i download 100 GB in a week

Kaz Wolfe

10:15 PM

--- 10.0.2.1 ping statistics ---
60 packets transmitted, 48 received, 20% packet loss, time 71043ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.544/2206.796/7108.406/2372.068 ms, pipe 8

here's 60.

Seth

@KazWolfe hey, since you're here, any idea why dd-wrt won't autostart httpd after I told it to use https?

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth config?

Seth

well probably

but nothing online.

Kaz Wolfe

0

Q: Extremely high ping to local router over WiFi

I am currently running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, and I'm running into an extremely annoying problem with my wireless setup. Occasionally (and seemingly randomly), my ping will begin to skyrocket and get out of hand: PING 10.0.2.1 (10.0.2.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 10.0.2.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64...

If anyone wants to help with my wifi issue, i'd really really appreciate it.

it's driving me mad.

it's not the router or interference. i'm 100% certain of that.

@Seth trust me, those numbers are only limited by my 3 mbps limit.

if i had something higher, those numbers would be astronomical.

Seth

get a life?

or are you hosting stuff?

Kaz Wolfe

10:24 PM

no.

TV is on 24/7 because family doesn't get the idea of "bandwidth conservation"

edwinksl

lol m$ extremetech.com/computing/…

Kaz Wolfe

heh, you can see the cap.

the TV took up 292 GB this month. o.o

Seth

Ahhh. That makes a lot of sense.

Kaz Wolfe

10:49 PM

i wonder how mad my family will get if i limited the TV to 5 GB / day

Seth

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth yes?

Seth

don't mind me. just uploading an image.

Kaz Wolfe

are you pointing out the extreme lack of votes?

Seth

yes, among other things

Videonauth

10:52 PM

@Seth guess an UV would have been in order for an accept and UV

Seth

@Videonauth an UV would have been in order before it was even answered.

good question = upvote

Videonauth

yep youre right

Kaz Wolfe

i need to learn sql.

trying to write a query for votes/view but it is not working well

Byte Commander

for SEDE?

Kaz Wolfe

yep

Byte Commander

11:05 PM

I once wrote two similar queues there, but already forgot most of how it works again, I think.

Videonauth

11:25 PM

http://time.com/4369809/very-hot-drinks-are-probable-cancer-trigger-says-who/
Health Cancer - Very Hot Drinks Are ‘Probable’ Cancer Trigger, Says WHO

Kaz Wolfe

sql is confusing.

data.stackexchange.com/askubuntu/query/608321

but for the past month (unless i screwed something up), we got 32 views / vote (@Seth)

Byte Commander

Is that just something screwed on my side or does SEDE not automatically log in?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Videonauth A lady sued McDonalds >20 years ago because the coffee was hot and it burned her legs. She said there was no warning that coffee was hot. She won the lawsuit ~10 million dollars. So now will they have to put on a warning: "Hot liquids cause cancer"?

arda

only thing that annoyed me about hyper was the buttons being on right, which is apparently configurable. I got a new shell, it seems.

Videonauth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes ot it gets banned over all, so no tea no coffee, no mate

i guess coca cola and pepsi are behind this !!!

Byte Commander

11:33 PM

Well, doesn't everything cause cancer that is able to denature proteins?

Videonauth

or those nasty WHO scientists want all the coffee for themselfes

Byte Commander

Including heat, acid, alkaline, etc...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I put a couple of ice cubes in my first cup of hot coffee in the morning so I'm hopefully safe :p

C. M. Weimer

@WinEunuuchs2Unix That's actually a misrepresentation of the lawsuit. She in fact sued because the coffee they served her was too hot for consumption, and yet they served it to her for consumption. This was also long after McDonald's was warned for serving too hot coffee. msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/…

Videonauth

well im off for today :) tired as hell right now

Mkey

11:37 PM

Is it possible to undo a command "sudo mv /* ../ " ?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@C.M.Weimer Thank you for the clarification.... In my legal defense I was going off of 20 year old foggy memory :)

C. M. Weimer

@WinEunuuchs2Unix All good. Knowledge is power. And you're not the only one who keeps the legend alive and well, as I myself said the same thing for years, too.

Videonauth

@Mkey yes if you know where everything should go, but to be honest, save yourself the headache, find your personal files and backup them, and reinstall, costs less time and less headache

Thomas Ward

hello

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@C.M.Weimer At the end of the day, McDonald's coffee cups now come with a nifty (if not useless) warning "Caution: Hot".

edwinksl

11:39 PM

@ThomasWard sith lord speaks

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@ThomasWard Hellowwww... Did you get your nifty 4 port NIC for $131 or settle for the 2 port version at $30 something?

C. M. Weimer

True, and are served several degrees cooler. But then again, the real question is, why is anyone drinking McD's coffee?

Thomas Ward

@WinEunuuchs2Unix neither. Free food.

and free medical treatment for my neck

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@edwinksl Puh...leasseeee... Not a mere "Sith Lord"... he's a full blown "Dark Lord"...hehe

Mkey

@Videonauth This happened to me couple hours I was using ubuntu 16.04 lts with dual booting win 10. Now I have recovered win 8.... And i see that ubuntu partition is still there.... - is it possible to recover some files from that partition ?

arda

11:41 PM

more of hyper.is

Videonauth

@Mkey sure you could boot up a live DVD/USB/CD and fiddle through the files and move them over to windows or onto a second stick

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@arda Uh-oh... it's "cowsay season" again :p

arda

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I wanted some input but didn't want to just have a simple echo

Thomas Ward

→ 2 messages moved to Trashcan

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@arda Don't get me wrong... I think cowsay is cool... Haven't downloaded it yet mind you (I need a medal / hat for procrastination :p)

Byte Commander

11:46 PM

Try xcowsay.

Thomas Ward

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Mkey

@Videonauth Thanks a lot. I am just curious - out of panic i started the recovery right away... If i would have tried to boot windows without recovery it would have failed - yes? Also if i would have tried ctrl+z ... that wouldn't have worked - right?

Videonauth

if you initiated the mv already then its already to late, booting into windows, as long you leave the linux partitions alone will change nothing or make nothing worse

Byte Commander

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ohh.... the graphical cowsay... pulling out the big guns now!

* waits for sl animated gif *

Mkey

11:50 PM

ok, thanks - that reliefs that after that point there was little i could have done to resolve without losses..

arda

ignore the tab on top I was just checking how to install lolcat

Videonauth

@Mkey Thats the nice stuff on Linux/Unix, it does not prevent you from shooting your foot, in fact it delivers mr. bullet to mr. foot in the most efficient way

Thomas Ward

@ByteCommander you has ping

Byte Commander

I has seen

Thomas Ward

thou hast not responded

:P

meh, i need coffee

Videonauth

11:57 PM

coffe causes cancer

32 mins ago, by Videonauth