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WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:00 AM

@Zacharee1 sounds like an infection.

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix like halitosis?

TheXed

I love affect...

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe that's made up

TheXed

or should I say the love affect?

Zacharee1

wat

Kaz Wolfe

12:01 AM

@Zacharee1 I'm Adam Conover, and this is Adam Ruins Everything!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

don't make me google halitosis, I had to google so much already

Zacharee1

will you affect my affect as to effect some effect in my being?

@KazWolfe twee twee twetwe twetwetwe

bahbah bahbah bah bahhhhhh

Nathan Osman

@WinEunuuchs2Unix it's basically bad breath.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Hey @Zacharee1 How can I find a question Byte Commader posted last night?

Zacharee1

Profile>Activity>Questions tab

TheXed

12:02 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix there is a great book about halitosis...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@NathanOsman I'm a smoker now I'm paranoid.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman basically? it is. just a made up word by listerine to make a fake disease.

TheXed

I can't remember the name of it though...

Kaz Wolfe

to sell their floor cleaner as a mouthwash

4

Nathan Osman

LOL.

Zacharee1

12:03 AM

@Zacharee1 no star here?

TheXed

It is related to fetor oris...

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman it's true

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 You're talking to yourself...

@KazWolfe Does it legit clean floors?

Kaz Wolfe

Listerine

Listerine is a brand of antiseptic mouthwash product. It is promoted with the slogan "Kills germs that cause bad breath". Named after Joseph Lister, 1st Baron Lister, a pioneer of antiseptic surgery, Listerine was actually developed in 1879 by Joseph Lawrence, a chemist in St. Louis, Missouri. Originally marketed by the Lambert Pharmacal Company (which later became Warner-Lambert), Listerine has been manufactured and distributed by Johnson & Johnson since that company's acquisition of Pfizer's consumer healthcare division in late December 2006. The Listerine brand name is also used in toothpaste...

TheXed

Here itis...

Kaz Wolfe

12:04 AM

answer, yeah.

TheXed

amazon.com/Dog-Breath-Dav-Pilkey/dp/0439598397

Kaz Wolfe

it does a decent job too.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I think that makes me deserving

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 ...of sympathy?

Zacharee1

:(

Nathan Osman

12:05 AM

We need some humor in here.

Kaz Wolfe

TheXed

Hey I need a pair of cheap, good set of blue tooth headphones...\

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed apple.com/airpods

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Pfffffffffffffffft.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Skull Cankdy Smoking Buds 2.... they are awesome earbuds, especially at half price

Nathan Osman

12:07 AM

@KazWolfe He said a good set.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman but it has a chip!

TheXed

@KazWolfe don't they use a proprietary wireless technology so you can only use them with iPhone 7(+)

Kaz Wolfe

earbuds with their own processors must be good! /s

@TheXed Yeah, so you need to get an iPhone too!

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe They are also easier to lose than a blindfolded game of billiards.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman but it has IR so it stops making noise when it comes out of ears! So you buy more of them!

Nathan Osman

12:09 AM

@TheXed It's Apple. Of course they use a proprietary protocol.

Kaz Wolfe

ping ping ping ping ping ping

TheXed

For 160 dollars I think I will get 2 pairs! plus an apple watch!

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe If I stick a jackhammer in my ears and then pull it out, it will stop making noise too.

@TheXed For $150 dollars? :D

TheXed

Look I just need a pair of headphones that are going to help me not fall off a treadmill...

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman don't google dog people.

@TheXed but they can be expensive too!

TheXed

12:11 AM

I think my child just died in the shower...

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe This is a trap of some sort...

TheXed

oh well...

Zacharee1

Honestly, even though the iPhone is a rip-off, I think the Pixel phones are even more so

Kaz Wolfe

one less thing to worry about

Nathan Osman

@TheXed O_o

Zacharee1

12:12 AM

@TheXed oh yes, how unfortunate o-O

TheXed

I heard some singing...then a scream...then it sounded like someone falling...

Zacharee1

well are you going to check?

#NoKidsClub

Nah....

...

12:13 AM

you only check if you hear crying

TheXed

Oh damn...the singing started again...

Kaz Wolfe

poor xed

so close to freedom

TheXed

Nah I have the 10 minute rule...

I wait for 10 minutes to hear any signs of life, if I don't hear anything then I go check...

Just to confirm the kill, not to render aide...

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman actually if your search history is relatively sane, then it's not a trap.

Nathan Osman

The big question: is the singing on-key?

TheXed

12:14 AM

@NathanOsman no...that is why they are only allowed to sing in the shower...

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed well time to go ground the electrical lines to the pipes!

TheXed

@KazWolfe I have to shower too...

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed remove the grounding

Zacharee1

use a switch

TheXed

@KazWolfe what if I forget...

Zacharee1

12:15 AM

"totally not a way to kill you" switch

Kaz Wolfe

@TheXed you're a lot bigger

Nathan Osman

Not only will you need to remove the grounding, you will need to disable the GFCI. As soon as it detects unequal current, it will trip.

Kaz Wolfe

plus you dont have any faulty devices on the line when you're showering.

@NathanOsman GFCI? We have one in the entire house, and it's outside or something on a special line.

Nathan Osman

"Anyone mind if I take the lightning rod in the bathtub?"

TheXed

I could ground it to one of the extra light switches that they always turn on...then just not use that light switch myself...

Kaz Wolfe

12:16 AM

@TheXed you can't ground it back to hot/neutral.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. Not up to code.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman Two words: Aluminum wiring.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Two words. Safety hazard.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman ya think?

Seth

You Deserve a Better You

►

Nathan Osman

12:17 AM

(Maybe not actually but they were the first two words to come to mind.)

Kaz Wolfe

We have a 20 AMP LINE to one of our bathrooms going through a switch contact. It has caught on fire before.

12 ga wire.

Nathan Osman

Okay, yup, that is a hazard.

It may even be a hazard before it catches fire.

Consult your local code book for confirmation.

Kaz Wolfe

it is definitely a hazard

our entire house can burn down at any second with our power line.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I think a hazard is anything that has the potential to cause harm, soyeahyaknow

@KazWolfe but then no MCCN

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Mind telling me where you live? :D

On a more serious note - how do you get insurance?

Zacharee1

12:19 AM

@NathanOsman Middle-of-Nowhere, California

Kaz Wolfe

our outside panel main breaker can't be turned off. If we do turn it off, we can't turn it back on because one of the two 120v legs are gummed up with earwig carcasses.

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Must be LA then.

@KazWolfe Kill it with fire!

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman No, literal middle of nowhere CA

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman he has a WISP and is in the middle of the desert

A WISP

WISP

Mateo

that is cool

Kaz Wolfe

12:20 AM

WISPs aren't inherently bad. Ours just sucks.

Zacharee1

WISP

Mateo

not so cool, but still cool in concept

Nathan Osman

First try killing it with fire. Then water. Stand on something that doesn't conduct electricity when you throw the water on it.

Kaz Wolfe

I want to get a small loan of $15m and set up a real WISP at the nearby village.

can't.

the breaker type is so old we can't find a new one.

we have to replace the entire box.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe I want to get a small loan of $300m and launch a satellite.

Kaz Wolfe

12:21 AM

but if i set up a real wisp with good ISP practices, I can scare Charter to hell.

Zacharee1

I want to get a small loan of $1m and spend it all on smartphones

Kaz Wolfe

And show ALL the ISPs how it's done.

@Zacharee1 how are you gonna pay it back

Zacharee1

I'm gonna move to the EU

Nathan Osman

BONDS.

Zacharee1

hide away

Nathan Osman

12:21 AM

^--- hey, the government does it

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman JAME BONDS

Kaz Wolfe

Imagine, if you will, a residential ISP that cares about their customers.

Mateo

dev bonds

Kaz Wolfe

This is the goal of my WISP.

Nathan Osman

Barry Bonds.

Kaz Wolfe

12:22 AM

@Mateo /dev/bond0?

@NathanOsman The house isn't worth enough to insure.

Our premium yearly would probably be more than the value of the house.

I'm honestly shocked we don't have Single Wire Earth Return where I live.

Nathan Osman

This is getting more and more and more ridiculous.

I'm losing faith that anyone in power is honest anymore.

Kaz Wolfe

this is why i want to run for office

at least something small, maybe.

Nathan Osman

And I don't mean that I ever thought people in power were 100% honest. Just that there were still a few people that were a bit honest.

Kaz Wolfe

like local house of reps member.

Nathan Osman

But now there is nobody that is even close to honest.

Kaz Wolfe

12:28 AM

post everything i hear to a Discourse for the local community to discuss and vote on.

then, i take whatever vote they do, sanity-check it against things, and then push it as my vote to congress.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Honestly, if you had a dog, and it was running for office, I would vote for it over any of the current candidates.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman i have four dogs.

UMMMM

^--- also that

IS GOOGLE BROKEN???

12:29 AM

Whoops wrong one...

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 no?

Zacharee1

well

Kaz Wolfe

i blame your school's blockers.

Zacharee1

notice the strange title

Kaz Wolfe

no that's just programmer jokes

edwinksl

12:31 AM

@Zacharee1 interesting bookmarks

Zacharee1

@edwinksl most of those are from me and my touchpad having a frustration dance

Kaz Wolfe

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe Google still has humor?

Kaz Wolfe

i give you my bookmarks!

Zacharee1

TOO MUCH TO HANDLE

explodes

Thomas Ward

12:32 AM

@Zacharee1 so, then it's the end?

:P

Kaz Wolfe

OH NO YOU DON'T EXPLODE

YOU HAVE CODE TO WRITE

Zacharee1

lol

Kaz Wolfe

/me *cracks Project Manager's whip*

Zacharee1

seriously though

what's going on Google

I can use the site itself

just the omnibar breaks

Kaz Wolfe

their error codes are always !!1

Zacharee1

12:33 AM

@KazWolfe you're not a supervisor if you actually work too

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 good point. i'll stop working then.

Zacharee1

:p

@Serg askubuntu.com/questions/833604/…

Kaz Wolfe

hey @NathanOsman, do you have a OP3 promo code or something?

like a referral code or something like

Seth

12:50 AM

guys, it werked!

Thomas Ward

@Seth what worked, the portal to Programmer Hell and back?

'cause I already tested that yesterday :p

Seth

Thomas Ward

boo microsoft office

chaskes

@Seth what's going on with Word there? Wine?

edwinksl

or is it ubuntu-themed windows?

Nathan Osman

12:55 AM

Office 2007?

Zacharee1

@Seth 2007??

wait no at least 2010

Nathan Osman

Gah, I put "97".

Ironic thing: I was using Office 97 today.

lolz

2010 guys. 2010.

but why

12:57 AM

That is 2007.

@edwinksl because college uses Office 365 so everything runs through... office.

So I need OneNote and sometimes Word.

LibreOffice usually cuts it though.

Zacharee1

Why not use Office Online if you have 365

and can you tell me how to get it installed? I love 2010

chaskes

@Seth But what was it that worked? A Wine install or something else?

Seth

@Zacharee1 because office online is awful.

@Zacharee1 I just used PlayOnLinux. I let it do all the heavy lifting.

You'll need a valid key ofc.

Zacharee1

o_O

no 365 integration?

Seth

@Zacharee1 hm?

Zacharee1

1:01 AM

there's an addon to give it 365 integration

Seth

@chaskes The install, yeah. I was trying to do it manually in WINE earlier but it wasn't working.

@Zacharee1 addon for??

Zacharee1

2010

Seth

Oh.

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 pretty awful when i tried it 6 months ago

chaskes

@Seth Yeah, I spent $140 on a key so my daughter could use Office 2010 with Play on Linux and be fully compatible with school. Worked great. Then a couple of months later they switched to Google Docs.

Seth

1:03 AM

@chaskes Murphy's law for you :/

Zacharee1

There's no way to download 2010 without a product key :(

Seth

@chaskes I'm fortunate because I know people.. I've got office 2010, office 2013, and office 2016 at ~$25 a pop.

chaskes

@Seth At least she loves Ubuntu.

Zacharee1

@Seth I need those contact details plz

Seth

Unfortunately that contact no longer has that job so...

but at least I'm stocked with office for a while ;p

@chaskes That is awesome.

chaskes

1:05 AM

@Seth Excellent. I got Office 2010 for $10 for me through work program, but I couldn't install for her without violating license.

Zacharee1

@Seth can you send me the 2010 product key so I can download Office?

Serg

Guys, is there Alt key on Macs ?

oops

No. You're wrong. There's function, control, option, and command. No "alt". — user973810 2 mins ago

chaskes

Option is Alt, I believe

Zacharee1

Option is Alt, yes

Mac keyboards say both option and alt on the key

Mateo

@Serg the new ones are double labeled...

Serg

1:14 AM

@Mateo yeah, i found image online and linked it to the guy

So i'm not entirely insane . . .

@Zacharee1 no

even on the laptops

@Seth plz

that'd be entirely illegal.

Zacharee1

I'd be using my 365 account to login

@Serg update us if they respond

Seth

1:24 AM

@Zacharee1 2010 doesn't support 365 login. It predates it.

Oh right. The plugin.

No idea how that works.

Zacharee1

support.office.com/en-us/article/…

sigh

Mateo

retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/1543/… - lol, I could also bypass the password on win 98 by hitting cancel

user227867

Hey @Seth LOL

Seth

hey Will!

What's up?!

user227867

I am looking forward to installing Ubuntu 16.10. Now on Debian 8

user227867

1:29 AM

Oh, still no pic from you, LOL

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Jeez.... I just posted a comment on Stack Overflow and got 200 points for being "trusted" on a new site.

user227867

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Isn't it 100 points bonus association?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It was 100 + 100, and it took me over 2k so now I can edit.

user227867

Well points on SE mean nothing, which is why I have deleted over 50,000 points of SE accounts.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I was just amazed at the number of points for asking a question via comment. This is the tally: day
+100 +100
+100
You've earned a bonus of 100 reputation because we trust you on other sites in the network

You've earned the "edit questions and answers" privilege! Learn more about it in the help center.
+100
You've earned a bonus of 100 reputation because we trust you on other sites in the network

@WillHunting You are right, it only says 100 + 100, but in reality it's only 100 more points when I checked: 1963-->2063.... must be new math...LOL

It was a silly comment too, like how do I call grub from Ubuntu, ie switch processor to real mode, copy first 512 bytes of /dev/sda to 0000:0700 and perform Assembler JMP to that location.... to answer a question posted by ByteCommander last night.

Seth

1:50 AM

@WillHunting nope :P

Wow you "conservatives" are stupid. Twitter said it's a UTILITY. Just like AT&T can't censor, neither can Twitter. https://twitter.com/ScotsFyre/status/783828907946639360

Tweeted by Cernovich on October 6, 2016 at 12:42 AM

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I used to be a twit but then I quit.... (ok they kicked me out)

Seth

did he just insult xkcd? xD

WinEunuuchs2Unix

haha no... just thinking about how twitter called me a robot

if you post too fast or too much you're not a human.

If twitter kicks me out i'm not a twit anymore...see???

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I meant Mr. Cernovich.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Seth... oh I missed that... see I'm not a ROBOT!

Seth

1:56 AM

lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I remember there was this one chat room in Yahoo or somewhere (they made the news today for spying) where a user Shells333 a sweet little old lady from the USA thought I was a robot because I typed so fast and said so much.

Zacharee1

@Seth I'm so confused

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zacharee1 because Mr. Cernovich doesn't exist?

Serg

How do you like the progress on my indicator ?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Serg It says your battery is 28%

chaskes

2:00 AM

I think you should plug in. ;)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

LOL @ chaskes

Serg

This laptop has good battery, i can survive for the next 20 minutes or so, or even more

But class is over soon

i'm such a dilligent student - writing python, while i should be studying modulation, AM and FM

WinEunuuchs2Unix

My battery is crap someone said 2 weeks ago people should recondition by unplugging until < 5%. It went from 90% capactity to 85% capacity after that little stunt :(... But what do you expect from battery of year 2012.

@Serg AM = Amplitude Modulation, FM = Frequency Modulation... class dismissed.

Serg

ha, it's not so easy, boy

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Python isn't easy too... I read your daylight script to Byte Commander

Thomas Ward

2:04 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix blasphemy

Python's a lot easier than some languages

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I got crucified learning Bourne Again SHell.

Serg

@WinEunuuchs2Unix wel, there are difficult parts, but generally it's easier that on other languages. Way easier than Java. Java basics are easy,but when you get to data structures it's pain. Well, maybe my professor in CS2 is to blame for that. Second CS2 professor was teaching in Python, so I'm in love with that professor, in a non-gay way

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Serg thanks for Bromance definition....LOL

Although I'm trying to figure out ASSEMBLER tonight for calling Grub from Ubuntu, I kind of like BASIC.

IanC

assembly*

:p

damn, my internet is slow right now

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Assembly Language is about ASSEMBLER.

searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/definition/assembler

Kaz Wolfe

2:09 AM

what did i miss?

IanC

I always learned that assembler was the program that turned assembly mnemonics into machine code

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You missed Assembly!

Principal is going to suspend you now

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Principal can try. I set up my school's database.

IanC

man, I mean it when I say my internet is slow right now, I couldn't load your link @WinEunuuchs2Unix

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe That explains how you got all those A's when you skipped and deserved F's

Kaz Wolfe

2:11 AM

grades aren't in this DB.

IanC

@WinEunuuchs2Unix but I found this stackoverflow.com/questions/1176138/assembly-vs-assembler

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@IanC They taught me ASSEMBLER in college in 1982.... I'm pretty sure of the name.

Kaz Wolfe

ASSEMBLY and ASSEMBLER is the same

actually... @WinEunuuchs2Unix

43

A: "Assembly" vs. "Assembler"

Actually, the language is called "Assembly Language", and the tool to convert it to machine code is the "Assembler". More info on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_language

IanC

I don't think they are, but no point at discussing terminology here

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe The spelling looks different to me :p

Kaz Wolfe

2:14 AM

Assembly is language, assembler is the tool.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe Sounds good to me, I learned how to use ASSEMBLER in school but it was post-secondary and there were no Assemblies because we were too old for that gymnasium stuff.

Anyway Byte Commander asked last night now to call Grub from Ubuntu and I said it had to be done in ASSEMBLER and that was my research tonight. Only I lost his question from last night :(

Zacharee1

CV PEEPS

and go through other queues because they're getting ful

"wrong indentation" askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/626248

okey dokey

IanC

just a second

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zacharee1 indents??? really? I like the fact he corrected HDMI though.

Zacharee1

someone's digging up old ISO mounting questions and pasting the same answer askubuntu.com/users/603351/nabeel-kirmani

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:20 AM

AFK....Shave & Shower.

IanC

back

Kaz Wolfe

buddon

Serg

people suck sometimes

was talking to a guy just now. He got kicked out because he turned towel late to the shelter folks and got hit by car this morning

I mean, towel. What reason is that really ?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:42 AM

@Serg you live in a homeless shelter?

IanC

@Serg it sucks that there are so many people that lack empathy, have to be a cold sad person to kick someone out of a shelter for that

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@IanC You realize we pay taxes to government who create homelessness right?

Kaz Wolfe

so... be donald trump?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

What choice do we have? We already know Hillary is crooked and evil.

Kaz Wolfe

don't pay taxes

because government causes homelessness

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:49 AM

It took 8 years to prove Obama was a liar, maybe it will only take 4 years to find out about Mr. You're Fired

Kaz Wolfe

and ignore all the good that the government does.

chaskes

How 'bout that Ubuntu, huh? Looks like a lot of fun to me.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe Government advertises to you it is good using your taxes and borrowing from your children via Treasury Bills

IanC

I'm not sure what the taxes to the government has to do with the situation Serg brought up, I mean, turning this into a politics debate?

Kaz Wolfe

USDA/FDA/FAA/NTSB/et al

and the EPA/FCC to some extent

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:51 AM

Income Taxes were created to fund war, when government ran out of war they turned on their own people part of which was creating homelessness which government employees pretend to fix.

Well the FCC does serve a purpose, not too many people talking on the same CB radio frequency at the same time :p

Kaz Wolfe

(let's not forget the defense budget wherein we're one of the safest countries in the world)

and yes, the government isn't helping the homeless situation as much as they should be, but it's not like they're going out and saying "you have no home anymore, tough luck" or removing people's abilities to make money to sustain themselves.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe You learn from 1984 lots is reverse of the truth. The $640 billion dfefense budget is mostly used to conquer other countries (900 international mititary bases) and attack other countries, Iraq, Libya, Syria soon to be.

Kaz Wolfe

yes, the government should help, but it's also unfair to claim that they directly cause homelessness, because that's more in the realm of social issues

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe I think we'll have to just agree to disagree on the homeless file... I have my 15 years of experience and you have your own set of facts.

chaskes

How 'bout that Ubuntu, huh? Looks like a lot of fun to me.

Kaz Wolfe

2:55 AM

@chaskes i prefer Mint.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

LOL @chaskes trying to lighten the mood... Yes Linux is GREAT!

Kaz Wolfe

and i just got suspended lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix