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msPeachy

00:01

oh okay, you go with the flow

jokerdino

:)

msPeachy

i want to find out if there's a way to show the status bar on the new nautilus in quantal, should I post a question?

jokerdino

they changed the nautlus to the old one.

msPeachy

I'd hate that I have to select all the items in order to see space usage details on a particular directory/partition.

jokerdino

have you updated your system? they have switched to the same version that was in precise.

and o/ @mateo_salta

msPeachy

00:11

@jokerdino oh, I did yesterday, but nothing's changed. I'll try again, thank you

jokerdino

@msPeachy hmm screenshot maybe

msPeachy

jokerdino

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

msPeachy

okay, will try later, can't update/upgrade now I'm on proxy

jokerdino

alright.

msPeachy

00:15

btw, why the change?

jokerdino

why they changed to old one? because the Ubuntu developers didn't like the new one.

msPeachy

i see

aking1012

@msPeachy eww. i see some modified css styles on the horizon

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jokerdino

►

Roland Taylor

00:27

:)

jrg

@GeorgeEdison no, from a third party.

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino awwww ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

dammit

no

that's garbage

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor you hate the old one too? :D

jrg

@RolandTaylor not that bad.

jokerdino

i seem to like the new one

George Edison

00:29

@jrg There is a way you can work around it.

jokerdino

except for the appmenu

George Edison

Let me check.

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino I prefer the new one.

This old thing is.... crap.

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor same

Roland Taylor

Is there no way to keep the new one without locking it in?

jokerdino

00:31

i was told they will have the new one in the repo..

but not too sure about that.

George Edison

@jrg Okay, here's what you have to do:

1. Download the actual extension.

2. Go to chrome://extensions in the address bar.

3. Drag the file you downloaded into that window.

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino I'm going to be honest.

George Edison

Once you've done that, you will see the usual installation dialog.

jrg

oh. drag and drop

Roland Taylor

I'm actually angry they went ahead and downgraded it

jrg

00:32

derp, i'm stupid

aking1012

@jokerdino that vid is awesome.

George Edison

Just tried it in Chrome 21 and it worked.

Roland Taylor

the current version is blah!

3.4.2 is an insult to my intelligence!

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor i don't know why :/ even the poll on OMG favoured the new one.

@aking1012 apparently, the guy only sprained his ankle

George Edison

I'm working on a Python script that generates NSIS scripts.

Roland Taylor

00:33

@jokerdino somebody needs to lock the Gnome and Ubuntu developers in a room

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor you? :D

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison that could be really useful

Roland Taylor

No.

George Edison

@aking1012 I sure hope so.

Roland Taylor

After they sit together in a room for a few hours - their mutual... problems... will cause them to realize they need to fix some issues.

SUCH AS LISTENING TO USERS.

lazyPower

00:35

wow why did the video for webapp integration get pulled from youtube?

jokerdino

@lazyPower wait what?

@RolandTaylor :/

Roland Taylor

@lazyPower maybe because they plan to downgrade to a previous version of Unity

lazyPower

ok the one by jonobacon is removed -- i found another -- youtube.com/watch?v=AUTNxi6b-hw&feature=player_embedded

Roland Taylor

or something

jokerdino

i see it fine

yeah the ubuntu channel video is still there

aking1012

00:36

sometimes you know it's trolling from the username:

0

Q: I need help stopping the purple and black screen of death

After installing Ubuntu 12.04 and rebooting I came across an issue. Instead of seeing the usual Ubuntu screen, I see a blank purple screen when booting Ubuntu and a blank black screen when I booting Windows XP. The only way for me to access the OSes regularly is by me putting the computer on stan...

jokerdino

slightly better than doestroll

btw, how serious is my username?

aking1012

joker != is going to complain

jokerdino

right.

should change to something more trolly

aking1012

change it to: iSurroundPeerGynt

jokerdino

no sir. i can't afford legal tussles with Apple.

aking1012

00:42

it was just camelCased. how about meSurroundsPeerGynt

jokerdino

maybe mesurroundsqueergynt?

jrg

i probably shouldn't mention what my next hardware purchase will be, given the current topic. ;P

jokerdino

tell me it ain't apple stuff

aking1012

@jrg an inline hardware autoproxy switcher?

jrg

@jokerdino it will be. ;P Used iPad 1, need something cheapish that will work as a color PDF reader, SSH client and email machine.

not much else.

@aking1012 I wish.

jokerdino

00:49

@jrg nice knowing you :))

jrg

Hey, I'll buy what it takes to get the job done. ;)

i considered an android, but i've not been impressed with the ones i've seen in the past.

aking1012

@jrg devkit 8000 with a ten inch touch shield... then if you're not impressed with it, who's fault is it?

Journeyman Geek

lol

jrg

@aking1012 Uhh.... the softwares? I want something that just works, don't want to spend any time tinkering with it. :p

Journeyman Geek

@jrg: I'd wait a bit for the next gen if it isn't a hurry

lots of really nice tablets coming up

jrg

00:52

life is too short to spend configuring my system.

jokerdino

dude, you washed or bleached your dog?

msPeachy

@jokerdino ROFL

aking1012

<-- lives to tinker

jrg

@JourneymanGeek Hurry is 1-2 months, budget is small enough that I can't afford anything newer. :(

Journeyman Geek

does really love the e mail support on his phone. SSH client would work, other than that I have the ONE phone the damned client dosen't work with out of the box

@jokerdino: different box

@jrg: both the nexus 7 and surface are 200 USD or so

nexus is out now

jokerdino

00:53

@JourneymanGeek same dog different filter?

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: different lighting/camera

jokerdino

alright.

Journeyman Geek

the old photo was natural light, this is lit by an old ikea light

jokerdino

at least you didn't use instagram

jrg

@JourneymanGeek Nexus is still $100-50 more than I can afford. not to mention I'd take a larger screen at the cost of a slightly slower/older/"not-as-capable" device.

msPeachy

00:54

can these 2 be merged?

4

Q: Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to 12.04.1?

I want to upgrade to 12.04.1 from 12.04 LTS. Is it possible? If possible then How?

upgrade

0

A: How do I get 12.04.1 to appear on the update manager

I can't find a way to just comment on an answer, without posting my own. :( Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to 12.04.1? mentions using lsb_release -a to check whether your version is Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS already.

jrg

@msPeachy let me look.

merged

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy hey

msPeachy

@jrg thank you, btw, no you don't scare me...:))

@RolandTaylor hey hey

jokerdino

@msPeachy i swear you are not rolling on the floor.

and much less, laughing.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy what's up?

@jokerdino if you tickle her and push her off the chair, she will roll on the floor laughing :)

msPeachy

00:57

@jokerdino true, I'm more of a smiler than a laugher anyway, lol

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor hm let's say i only have two arms?

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor oh nothing much, same old routine, woke up, breakfast then AU.

jokerdino

@msPeachy you should change it to SOTCS (sitting on the chair, smiling)

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino I have 3, one is in my phone

@msPeachy lol

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor LOL, violence

jokerdino

00:59

@RolandTaylor ARM? you joker

msPeachy

@jokerdino SOTCS

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy xD I would be able to charge him with assault and battery :D

aking1012

/me is thinking about re-installing with lubuntu and only keeping my /home folder. anyone done that and had issues with ~/.whatever? or it just works?

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino :P 680Mhz :)

jrg

@aking1012 had issues with chrome, but as long as you're A. not encrypted and B. staying on the same release should be good.

jokerdino

01:00

@RolandTaylor xD

aking1012

@jrg true and true (well, FDE, but I can manage that part of it)

jrg

@aking1012 ah, see thats easier to deal with. yeah, you should be fine.

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor lol, well I'm gonna have to bail him out

jokerdino

o.O

msPeachy

can't open gravatar

Roland Taylor

01:11

@msPeachy lol :D

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor :)

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy have you tried the site itself (I mean going to gravatar.com)

msPeachy

well i wanted to change my avatar

can I do that outside of AU?

Roland Taylor

yeap

gravatar.com

msPeachy

okay, thank u

Roland Taylor

01:26

@msPeachy you're welcome :D

btw, sorry for my slow replies - my brother is on the radio and I'm also working on something in blender :P

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor he is on the radio?

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy yeah

CITA

msPeachy

what's that?

Roland Taylor

citaradio.com

@msPeachy it's a station I sent to you before lol

msPeachy

oh let me check

Roland Taylor

01:30

mew

msPeachy

can't hear him, same problem as before, I clicked on play but don't hear anything. He has a talk show or something?

aking1012

I think this is just a user complaining. I don't see a question here:

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Q: Ubunto S.O. core functions not displayed

First of all let me tell you i'm completly new to unix sistem, had on the past few contact (wen it was only cmd lines and it was like ... boring). Few years later i found mandriva , fedora and few more, a friend recomended ubuntu , and i tryed out the great software every body was talking about ...

gui services

George Edison

Argh!

@AmithKK: If you find a funny package showing up in your PPA, that was an accident.

Hopefully I've gotten rid of it by the time you read this.

aking1012

ohh @GeorgeEdison - you did say you have libvorbis, libtheora, and libogg already static cross-compiling right?

George Edison

Yup.

In all of the confusion I'm not sure if they're built on Launchpad at this exact moment though.

I made some radical changes to the Python build script, some old recipes broke, and I'm not sure if they've been rebuilt yet.

aking1012

01:44

thx. just checking. it may come in to play soon-ish. if you've got it working, that's the important part. i don't think if i was all: "Hey man can you mail me the patched tar.gz" you'ld be like "NO!!!"

George Edison

I'll give you the link to the page containing the list of what's in the PPA right now.

aking1012

awesome

George Edison

code.launchpad.net/~win-cross-dev/+archive/win-cross/+packages

aking1012

how are the packages not signed?

George Edison

Looks like I need to run the libtheora recipe again.

@aking1012 Anything built using the recipes remains unsigned.

I have no idea why but there's not really anything I can do about that.

(Short of hand-uploading the packages myself, which is ridiculous.)

aking1012

01:47

oh. okay. that's fair. i was just wondering. it would be nice to have a "signed as repo maintainers" spot so it doesn't complain about unsigned packages wouldn't it? i feel a wishlist bug coming on

George Edison

I can look into it... but with all of the other more pressing problems, I can't promise it will be a priority.

Yay! wxWidgets is now built for Precise on Launchpad!

Once I finish this NSIS-generating script, I'll write up a blog post outlining the goals of the entire project and providing some examples.

Maybe then some more people will become interested in the project.

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison i didn't mean you. i meant a bug against lp

Roland Taylor

omigosh

@msPeachy sorry :O

I got carried away with the radio

@msPeachy no he's on one lol

msPeachy

02:03

@RolandTaylor that's okay

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy I wish it was working for you :P

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor me too, I have a very slow Internet connection, still can't open gravatar

jokerdino

02:24

done writing a meta answer. now time to write a meta topic

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy :(

jokerdino

@msPeachy meta.askubuntu.com/questions/3980/… asked as you commanded me.

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor ^

@jokerdino :) thank you

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy :D

George Edison

Uh-oh!

I have used up nearly 25% of my PPA already.

Roland Taylor

02:38

George Edison

Roland Taylor

xD

George Edison

@RolandTaylor What... are you trying to say...?

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison randomness at the highest level :D

There, now it's directed correctly

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor

@jokerdino +1, very nice.

Roland Taylor

02:42

@msPeachy hahahaha

jokerdino

@msPeachy which one?

msPeachy

@jokerdino the meta

jokerdino

@msPeachy oh ok. thanks.

Roland Taylor

jokerdino

many can write better than me. I only scrap through

msPeachy

02:43

@RolandTaylor that was supposed to be a response for the riffle thing

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy you'll never escape :D

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Q: Can we better organize Broadcom questions?

I would suggest if we can have one question for each of the Broadcom chipsets, with one answer covering each of the release. So, we would have one question about Broadcom BCM4313 (and other chipsets) and multiple answers with each of them targeting one release version each. The main reason behi...

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Roland Taylor

brb

jokerdino

@AskUbuntuMeta that was fast

Roland Taylor

back

msPeachy

02:45

fast and furious

jokerdino

wut

msPeachy

what is wut?

jokerdino

never mind

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy lool I like that one :D

@msPeachy wut == what

@jokerdino I was fast and furious :D

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor oh wow

msPeachy

02:54

@RolandTaylor yeah with the rifle and all

jokerdino

@msPeachy rifle*

msPeachy

@jokerdino :)

jokerdino

@msPeachy :))

oi. if anyone is bored, review this blog post? unbrokenspectrum.wordpress.com/…

Roland Taylor

nevah :D!

George Edison

2

^--- Launchpad didn't pay much attention in math class.

Roland Taylor

02:57

@msPeachy wanna see what I'm working on in Blender?

@GeorgeEdison :P

jokerdino

@GeorgeEdison lol

George Edison

Somebody's maths are all wrong.

jokerdino

@GeorgeEdison you should be doing 503.7/2.0 GB o.O

George Edison

Not GB, GiB.

Roland Taylor

I was wondering if it is because of that.

George Edison

02:59

A gibibyte isn't the same as a gigabyte.

jokerdino

I mean you did 2/500 instead of 500/2

George Edison

Oh... oops.

Give me a second to correct the image.

jokerdino

Thanks :D

msPeachy

@jokerdino can't access the page

@RolandTaylor sure

jokerdino

@msPeachy try now

George Edison

03:01

There, fixed.

jokerdino

@GeorgeEdison Perfection.

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msPeachy

@jokerdino needs no reviewing, it's good enough for me

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy okie 1 sec gonna render it

jokerdino

@msPeachy okay :D

msPeachy

03:02

@jokerdino I forgot to ask you, why that flower?

jokerdino

@msPeachy what's wrong?

i'll add a different flower next month :D

msPeachy

@jokerdino lol, there's nothing wrong, I was just asking why a flower?

Roland Taylor

jokerdino

@msPeachy dont know. just adding some fun in the boring post.

msPeachy

@jokerdino try cookies next month

Roland Taylor

03:04

@jokerdino oh thanks for the mention ^_^

jokerdino

@msPeachy as you say, Your Highness.

Roland Taylor

And! @msPeachy much deserves a highlight indeed :)!

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor :D

msPeachy

@jokerdino wut?

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor she was #7 on the league.

Roland Taylor

03:05

@jokerdino wow

(7 is my favourite number (apart from all this) btw)

@jokerdino sent feedback :)

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor heh nice.

@RolandTaylor thanks :D

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor who's ship is that?

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor hey thanks again. i'll add that for next month?

msPeachy

jokerdino

i don't really have much stuff each month. just doing two topics

so i can mention it for next month's update

msPeachy

03:09

@RolandTaylor that ^

jokerdino

@msPeachy i dont know what's wrong with you people (You and RT)

msPeachy

@jokerdino me and Roland, we're emotional, thus the emoticons

jokerdino

@msPeachy ooh

msPeachy

lol

jokerdino

ok drumroll everyone as i publish the post to the planet \o/

msPeachy

03:14

yay

jokerdino

ok scheduled. will be out in 16 minutes

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy mine

(lol sorry for the delayed reactions lol)

(still listening to the radio and blending lol)

msPeachy

dino's asked what's wrong with us? lol

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino it's not what's wrong with us, but what's wrong.... with you :>

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor :<

Roland Taylor

03:20

@msPeachy:

xD

(just so @jokerdino can be jealous)

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor wut?

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor ^

izx

@RolandTaylor I doubt @jokerdino is the correct demographic for that :P

jokerdino

@izx i got no idea what's going on.

oh btw, i need a Debian ISO :D

msPeachy

@izx hello

@jokerdino download

izx

03:25

@jokerdino Surely you can SSH and wget it...? Or is that broken now?

@msPeachy hi!

jokerdino

@izx ssh blocked. can you do what you did last time?

the ariac list thingie?

izx

oh that, hang on

which ISO do you need?

in particular

jokerdino

ok i'll get the link

debian.org/CD/live

Roland Taylor

@izx ! :D

msPeachy

what's SSH?

jokerdino

03:26

@msPeachy secure shell

port 22

Roland Taylor

jokerdino

man in the middle attacks

msPeachy

what does it do?

izx

remote CLI access to a system over the net

jokerdino

you connect to a computer through some random commands.

izx

03:27

@jokerdino i386/amd64?

jokerdino

@izx amd64 please

izx

@jokerdino gnome, kde, xfce, lxde?

jokerdino

gnome

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor ^

Roland Taylor

:D

@jokerdino that's not precisely true

msPeachy

03:30

@izx as usual I'm lost...

Roland Taylor

you connect to a computer through ssh <insert host here>

I forgot all the fandangle involved but yeah it's not random :P

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor :P

izx

@RolandTaylor ssh [email protected] FYI :P

Roland Taylor

@izx right there we go

I couldn't remember off hand cause I haven't done it in a little while

msPeachy

guys, if you continue continue to pursue this conversation, I'll have a nosebleed.

jokerdino

03:36

ok let's keep this going

@RolandTaylor you can also change to other ports FYI

ssh -p 20 user@host

izx

@jokerdino listen up

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy O_o

@msPeachy man ssh

jokerdino

@izx yep

msPeachy

Roland Taylor

xD

msPeachy

03:38

@jokerdino ^^

jokerdino

@msPeachy ;P

izx

@jokerdino lmk if it doesn't work, i'll switch to port 80...

jokerdino

doesn't work :?

izx

@jokerdino I posted the URL a little while ago -- did you get it?

@jokerdino this reminds me, should i start the ajaxterm again?

jokerdino

@izx yeah

@izx you probably should

izx

03:40

@jokerdino Can you access the non-standard port is what I meant...

jokerdino

@izx the link doesn't resolve

George Edison

It'll be more fun once I get GTK+ in there.

Roland Taylor

(Fun == crazy).

msPeachy

was there ever a 4.12 version of Ubuntu?

jokerdino

@msPeachy no

there was a 6.06 though

msPeachy

03:46

ok, typo then. thank u

izx

@msPeachy 4.12 == 12.04

Roland Taylor

Muhahaha

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