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@izx sir i could not laugh harder at that...i dropped the contest, but went about answering quickly questions to try and help out people that had stuff finished less UI

izx

Well, we know Nitroshare is going to be among the top three, so we need only bother speculate about who the other two will be.

jokerdino

There is some tough competition out there.

aking1012

orly?

jokerdino

12:27 PM

pity the judges =)

izx

@aking1012 You are a kind and noble soul, sir.

jokerdino

@aking1012 SHUP!

ObsessiveFOSS

Boring question: Can somebody describe the activity patterns of ubuntu.se based on time of day?

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS scourge the data dump or kindly nudge the mods.

izx

Some basic queries on the last datadump oughta give you an idea.

jrg

12:28 PM

@ObsessiveFOSS yes and no. It's mainly gut-based stuff based off of the front page.

izx

All I can say is that weekends (Fri-Sun, US/EU) are normally much slower than weekdays.

aking1012

that's b/c it's not AU corp tech support... sorry...that might have been snark

jokerdino

I would say, whenever Jorge is active, the activity on AU is pretty high. When he is asleep or away from work (on weekends), the activity is pretty low=)

jrg

That's more or less it, closer details would be more activity in the evening US time.

ObsessiveFOSS

Fine. When is the next ~~express train to Mars~~ question due?

jrg

12:30 PM

@ObsessiveFOSS heh. no clue, probably sometime in the next 10-15 minutes

Hello all

o/

Heya @aking1012

Also, the username cutoff is annoying. As far as I know(my hate of acronyms annoys you), there is NO obsessiveFO on the network.

And a question just came by.

aking1012

you don't like autocomplete of username @Obsess

jokerdino

12:32 PM

hehe

@obs don't get too obsessed. Really.

ObsessiveFOSS

I must obsess.[Realigns Ubuntu live, alternate, netboot CD's, DVD's, and bootable thumb drives with calipers and lasers used for alignment purposes]

jokerdino

You are one of them.

Amith KK

@ObsessiveFOSS Digital or Vernier?

aking1012

alignment? mine is chaotic neutral... oh i didn't know you meant physical alignment

jokerdino

izx

12:37 PM

Real men use manual micrometers and vernier callipers.

ObsessiveFOSS

@AmithKK Digital.

Want me to use Vernier?

@jrg Already mentioned here.

aking1012

@jokerdino it's missing the 32 gallon trashcan

jokerdino

@aking1012 LOL

jrg

@jokerdino oh, you pasted the wrong XKCD (the first time). :P

jokerdino

@jrg Yeah I wrote the wrong number. =)

aking1012

12:40 PM

i sorta like this one better anyway

ObsessiveFOSS

@aking1012 Please capitalize your sentences properly.

jokerdino

We have to put up with ObsessiveFoss. :/

blames @izx

jrg

Copyright

ObsessiveFOSS

@jokerdino Apologies. Shall I leave?

aking1012

i Could Do It In Reverse?!?!

Sorry...snark

jokerdino

12:42 PM

@ObsessiveFOSS No. just joking. Don't be hurt.

I'll leave the room :)

ObsessiveFOSS

How can I be hurt? I am but an obsessive robot. It's OK.

jrg

Darnit. I keep forgetting that XKCD's are so big when oneboxed. :S

jokerdino

blah, nothing better to do anyway. I'll rejoin the room =)

jrg

@jokerdino exterminate error?

jokerdino

gulp.

That tag is an error.

aking1012

12:45 PM

@jrg good call. i'm more irritated about

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ObsessiveFOSS

Could the "ignored" tags be thrown to the bottom of a question listing, and the favorite tags to the top, instead of just causing eyestrain?

jrg

And this one is entirely my fault

2

@aking1012 heh, sad but true.

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS askubuntu.com/?tab=interesting

izx

Personally I found approximations to be more of a laugh-riot

aking1012

sorry... my instinct was an arsenic joke, but i had to check

izx

12:49 PM

heh

Amith KK

I dont feel the random modkicking anymore :P

aking1012

i don't remember there being any RANDOM mod-kicking

jokerdino

What was Murphy's law again?

jrg

Nothing is random.

jokerdino

There we go. Whee

Amith KK

12:51 PM

I did that :P

aking1012

heheh

Amith KK

cuz @jrg is too nice :P

jrg

@AmithKK you were asking for it.

ObsessiveFOSS

Am I really this sane(by comparison)?

aking1012

Sanity is grossly subjective.

jokerdino

12:52 PM

Sanity is grossly overrated.

And occasionally underrated.

aking1012

my last comment was properly capitalised

jokerdino

so was mine.

but not the last.

jrg

but this is nOt

aking1012

Evidently my humour is lost...

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS Your sentence is not properly punctuated. I win.

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Amith KK

12:53 PM

The akward you realise that you have added moment after akward even though it was not part of the sentence.

ObsessiveFOSS

@jrg No! [Puts on Darth Vader mask, asks about Padmé Amidala's well-being]

Whisperity

Ubuntu would need a feature that when we move the mouse to the edge of the screen, it goes to the workspace in that direction.

jokerdino

@AmithKK What? Speak English please. :P

@Whisperity I had it set up that way once.

Whisperity

@jokerdino How did you do it?

jokerdino

Trying to recall how.

There is a possibility that I might have been hallucinating.

jrg

12:57 PM

"You've gotta do these things with style". :D

@jokerdino ccsm, wallpaper flipper iirc

jokerdino

Sounds more like that.

ObsessiveFOSS

Chat bug I am too lazy to post: Starring a comment in the feed on the right doesn't make the star yellow on the main chat interface.

No! Misuse of colon! [Slaps self]

jokerdino

Abuse of exclamation marks. Reward yourself.

Amith KK

@Whisperity compiz

aking1012

This...is...ellipsis...abuse...

izx

12:59 PM

Someone get @ObsessiveFOSS some positronic anti-depressants...

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ObsessiveFOSS

@jokerdino Done. Alas, I must leave this asylum for Netbeans. Stackfail (my crappy Stackoverflow clone in PHP) needs me.

izx

@aking1012: no, it's just the way shatner speaks ;)

jokerdino

o.O

@aking1012 lolol

aking1012

@izx that is hilarious

jokerdino

OK, here's the deal. There are 90 questions with error tag. Everyone grab 10 and we will be done faster than before.

Whisperity

1:04 PM

@jokerdino What to do with them?

aking1012

detag

jokerdino

Remove error tag and vote to close if it is a bug question.

jrg

Remove them from all questions. That tag does not need to exist.

ObsessiveFOSS

@jrg Are you going to use ~~the force~~ moderator tools, or shall you send ~~clone troops~~ regular users to exterminate the tag?

jrg

@ObsessiveFOSS both.

aking1012

1:07 PM

nuked several

put one in the black screen folder

jokerdino

ah, we are down to 50 Yay!

jrg

wow, down to 57 already. Why didn't I ask for help with those other tags?!

aking1012

because you didn't realize if YOU asked people would help...sometimes "help me" falls on deaf ears. other times when someone is trying it is backed up with huge support

Amith KK

\o nukified

Eliminated completely

aking1012

you ever feel like this when purging tags?

►

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jokerdino

1:14 PM

We did it!!

ObsessiveFOSS

@aking1012 Yes, I do.

Whisperity

RIP error 2011. March 22. - 2012. July 09.

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jrg

We were done in 10 minutes. Dang.

ObsessiveFOSS

I need to replace my mouse as it has had 16,384 clicks upon it.

jrg

Markdown works in the star list. :)

Whisperity

1:17 PM

The only problem is that by doing this, we unintentionally bumped tens of old questions... from '11 and even earlier.

aking1012

@jrg that's relatively surprising and alternately less than surprising. one the fence

jrg

Meh, it's not that bad.

aking1012

it just means new-ish user closegoats

jrg

ugh, time to catch up on /review.

aking1012

hopefully they'll dump the ones worth closing in chat...

jokerdino

1:20 PM

Who wants to clean up freeze? ;-)

shudders. 344 questions.

aking1012

say that as an outright request...it'll help

ObsessiveFOSS

This activity seems to resemble what is sane for a chat room. However, this is still no reason to fail to capitalize sentences. @jokerdino needs a question mark in his last post. That should not be capitalized as @jokerdino is the subject of the sentence.

@jokerdino I will as soon as I replace my mouse.

aking1012

IN ORDER TO ADJUST FOR CAPITALISATION COMPLAINTS I WILL JUST YELL CONSISTENTLY...kidding

jrg

@aking1012 A-Team seems cheesy, at least the first couple episodes.

It's like "Ok, so they are about to do somethi-OH WAIT THERES LYNCH RUN AWAY/TRAP HIM"

aking1012

omitting shift is more efficient for anyone that can read the english language...for anyone with at least a reasonable amount of english proficiency

jokerdino

1:23 PM

@ObsessiveFOSS go easy on punctuation and capitalization. This is leisure. pwetty pwease.

@ObsessiveFOSS good boy.

@aking1012 yeah. one sentence without proper punctuation isn't that horrible.

ObsessiveFOSS

@jokerdino Apologies, I was away checking my stocks. I have considered your request and will grant it as soon as I am handed a pair of chopsticks to type with.

Also, can we eradicate crash?

jokerdino

/me hands @ObsessiveFOSS a pair of chopsticks.

aking1012

i frequently pick up chopsticks when i buy takeout sushi. you need a pair?

jokerdino

Just 272 crash questions. Sure.

Whisperity

On AskUbuntu, my 'main' reputation updates to 'meta'. On Stack Overflow, it does not.

Also, what is up with the current influx of tag cleaning?

ObsessiveFOSS

1:26 PM

I have a pair of well-seasoned chopsticks already. Now, can we stop spamming this chat room at 50 words per minute?

jokerdino

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Q: Summer cleanup, feedback wanted, etc

Basically, what I'd like to do is get community 'permission' to do the following over the next few weeks (for whats left of June, and then thereafter whenever I have time): Completely destroy and utterly eradicate the following tags: error freeze crash DONE. bug DONE. slow DONE. Try and clea...

discussion

jrg

That's because MSO is... different.

jokerdino

yo, crash is not done @jrg.

ObsessiveFOSS

@jrg crash still exists on 272 questions, so it cannot be marked as done in your post.

Can somebody close this question as per the OP's comment? I can't cast close votes yet.

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS next time, flag it.

Whisperity

1:30 PM

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Q: Eclipse indigo crashes on ubuntu 12.04 everytime

I have tried reinstalling it... # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGBUS (0x7) at pc=0xb77be97b, pid=2181, tid=3076359872 # # JRE version: 7.0_05-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.1-b03 mixed mode linux-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [ld-li...

crash eclipse

jokerdino

okay, everyone cleanup crash tag

Whisperity

According to comments, it is a bug. So, we flag it instead?

jrg

@ObsessiveFOSS @jokerdino that's what I get for trying to rush things... thanks guys. :\

ObsessiveFOSS

@jokerdino Can somebody specify what reason to use, for future reference?

Lord of Time

@jokerdino i'll clean up tags after i get paid to do it :P

jrg

1:31 PM

Bye bye Flash! Stack Exchange chat now uses HTML <audio> for notifications, only falls back to Flash in old browsers.

Tweeted by balpha on July 9, 2012 at 11:59 AM

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Lord of Time

needs to finish stuff here first

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS bug closed as OT. OP give up = too loco

@Whisperity flag it as OT.

Amith KK

BBL

jokerdino

Hmm we need to catch up on the suggested edits.

Lord of Time

BLEH! stupid phones are out at work again >.>

jrg

1:35 PM

@Whisperity No need for the link in the edit summary.

aking1012

crash is substantially reduced...i covered page 4 with no regard to closed questions (questions that were closed should be de-taggable without human intervention)

Whisperity

@jrg Copy that.

jokerdino

@jrg [crash] closed:1 should be deleted.

The Interrupter

Can you answer this? Avoid creating new windows and openning duplicate files in gedit http://askubuntu.com/questions/55522/avoid-creating-new-windows-and-openning-duplicate-files-in-gedit?atw=1 #gedit

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on July 9, 2012 at 1:34 PM

jrg

@jokerdino take that to meta as a suggestion.

jokerdino

1:37 PM

askubuntu.com/search?q=[freeze]+closed%3A1

jrg

Or use your delete votes and then I can come along.

jokerdino

i have like a meagre 5 delete votes every day.

aking1012

lucky u i get 0

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jokerdino

bah

hmm how about this.

ObsessiveFOSS

@jokerdino I get i delete votes. I can only imagine having sufficient reputation.

jrg

1:39 PM

all cleaned up (existing delete votes)

Also, @jokerdino - you can see this I think. askubuntu.com/tools?s=1&tab=delete&daterange=last30days

jokerdino

i have an idea.

@jrg yeah i empty it everyday.

aking1012

flash should be suggested as a crash tag synonym

jokerdino

my idea is downvote posts with no answers that are closed in crash.

askubuntu.com/…

They will be removed over the weekend.

the rest we can delete manually.

aking1012

i've got plenty of goats

jokerdino

yeah. retagging doesn't seem like a smart idea.

aking1012

1:44 PM

pulling tags is fine imo...with the no other tag, i try and add some descriptive bit, like 'xorg' or 'flash'. just carte blanche downvoting crashes is bad...the tag should not exist though. one thing at a time

jokerdino

okay, let me know when you are downvoting.

@aking1012 yes i am talking about those

aking1012

yeah, i add a descriptive correct-ish tag.

jokerdino

but if they are closed, i don't see much reason for them to exist though :/

especially if they are old-ish

jrg

Finally worked my way through all of those meta notifications. You guys write on meta way too often.

aking1012

WAT? I've personally de/retagged 2 pages and we're still at 5? come on ppl...

jokerdino

1:46 PM

Sorry, we love the site.

aking1012

@jrg i remember you saying i love you for using meta

jrg

@aking1012 what you don't see is all the suggested edits i just approved.

aking1012

fair point...previous thought revised to "i love you for using meta properly"

jrg

@aking1012 I did. Until I went away for four days and came back to it all. ;P

jokerdino

what you don't see is me trying to tag them properly

and i fail miserably

aking1012

1:48 PM

so if i write a selenium de-tag script in python who wants it?

jokerdino

heh nice xD

mateo_salta

I reached my limit on those freeze questions, askubuntu.com/… someone can take care of the rest to downvote

jokerdino

but detagging might be faster if we get enough people

jrg

I should have thought of that. Make use of all that TDD stuff that I've been learning...

aking1012

i like tdd, but i tend to be more of a try/log-bail person

jokerdino

1:50 PM

@mateo_salta hey nice!

mateo_salta

looks like most were bug report ones...

aking1012

they're all -1 now

jokerdino

yes definitely

why do we have -2 now?

remove the excess downvote and use it on other questions.

aking1012

i didn't DV anything already voted

jokerdino

might have been me :D removed

nitstorm

1:53 PM

hello all :)

jokerdino

@jrg, we can detag crash after the weekend. the system needs to purge the bad ones.

heya @nitstorm

jrg

@jokerdino ok, sure.

nitstorm

@jokerdino hey :)

@jrg hey :)

jrg

@nitstorm hello!

nitstorm

how's things ? @jrg ?

jokerdino

1:55 PM

for folks with more votes, crash tag that needs downvotng - askubuntu.com/…

nitstorm

So what are we cleaning today? Detagging crash posts?

jokerdino

downvoting crash posts so they get deleted this weekend.

mateo_salta

crash and burn, or.. actually freeze

nitstorm

ah... cool

jokerdino

yeah, crash and freeze among others.

@Whisperity STOP!

mateo_salta

1:58 PM

that would be awesome if we had a burn tag, "Help, my computer in on fire" , "Um, call the fire department, as such this is off-topic"

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jokerdino

@mateo_salta :D

nitstorm

@jrg @jokerdino Is 2buntu IRC room abandoned?

@mateo_salta LOL :P

jokerdino

@nitstorm talk about 2buntu.com being abandoned.

nitstorm

@jokerdino say whaaaat?

jokerdino

lol i mean it needs more activity

aking1012

2:00 PM

why does this one still show in the crash tag?

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Q: Packard Bell EasyNote MZ35 freezes when AC unplugged and wireless on

I would like to ask for some help debugging an irritating problem I'm having with my Packard Bell EasyNote MZ35 and Ubuntu 10.10. Always when the laptop is connected to a wireless network and the AC power lead is unplugged—so it's running on battery power—the system freezes. The screen turns bla...

10.10 wireless laptop

jokerdino

it doesn't

nitstorm

@jokerdino lol :P That way...

aking1012

evidently a cache issue. it showed on the back-page for me

jokerdino

@Whisperity no seriously just stop it already.

ObsessiveFOSS

@aking1012 I suspect caching also.

mateo_salta

2:02 PM

what is whisperity doing?

jokerdino

@mateo_salta removing crash tag from questions that i have listed for downvoting.

Whisperity

@jokerdino Back. I am missing the discussion on chat as this is on a completely different workspace. I have stopped now.

jrg

@nitstorm I'm doing alright, yourself?

nitstorm

@jrg Good to hear, catching up with life :)

jokerdino

@Whisperity one problem is, we are not saving much time since someone else has to approve those edits.

jrg

2:04 PM

@nitstorm and no, the irc isn't really abandoned per se, we're just still trying to figure out what to do with 2buntu.

aking1012

anyone have a script that shows how many non-closed left in a tag that aren't closed? or am i the only one that wants that

nitstorm

@jrg Team meeting?

jokerdino

@aking1012 [tag] closed:0

or what?

aking1012

@jokerdino ty

jrg

@nitstorm we need to get Roland on board.

mateo_salta

2:06 PM

I'm going to try and find the closed crash q's with removed tags and put them in the downboat room

aking1012

ok that is irritating

jokerdino

@mateo_salta good luck and thank you very much

nitstorm

@jrg Ofc and everyone else too :)

jokerdino

@aking1012 takes some time to update :)

jrg

@nitstorm True.

jokerdino

2:08 PM

@mateosalta askubuntu.com/users/63111/…

aking1012

on the other hand we went from double digit pages to 2

jokerdino

might help :P

nitstorm

@jrg How about an IRC session when Roland gets here?

jrg

@nitstorm well, i need to convince him to show up.

last he was seen on IRC or here was... easily a week ago iirc.

jokerdino

i saw him yesterday

jrg

2:09 PM

oh, didn't see that.

nitstorm

@jrg We'll convince him to get there :)

aking1012

he was def in room here yesterday

nitstorm

So @jrg @jokerdino game for IRC session when Roland gets here?

jrg

I'm game.

nitstorm

@jokerdino hmmm... let's see... we gotta give it a shot though..

jokerdino

2:11 PM

@nitstorm yeah that's a good idea actually

nitstorm

@jokerdino So you game too I take it :)

jokerdino

heh i don't mind. just hope the great firewall of my school has no other plans.

nitstorm

@jokerdino LOL LOL :P

jokerdino

no really :D

aking1012

he's not kidding

it broke apt at least once

nitstorm

2:13 PM

@aking1012 Woah!

jokerdino

oh yeah. they did.

i still can't download anything of the name wallpaper from ppa's

nitstorm

@jokerdino Fingers crossed then, else we could always have the chat in the 2buntu room here...

jokerdino

hmm yeah that might work

nitstorm

Cool :)

jokerdino

ok so. here's the two pills

delete abandoned not closed questions or delete closed questions that are useless?

aking1012

2:16 PM

@jokerdino red...blue...

jokerdino

pick your pill :D

aking1012

let not closed happened by vote...delete closed

and vtc as abandoned...eventually they're the same thing

jokerdino

hmm you have a point.

between the two, i would choose the first one

at least the closed q won't hurt the accept rate much.

or we can ask the devs to auto delete closed questions meeting a certain rquirement?

ObsessiveFOSS

There needs to be some form of "bump-protection" during these detag sessions.

jokerdino

that unfortunately is not possible. :?

ObsessiveFOSS

2:24 PM

@jokerdino Somebody should file a feature request--I cannot as I am currently writing a PHP application.

jrg

Already asked, and denied.

yeah

Ouch!

Ah.

I like that they bump

it gives us a chance to fix them

jokerdino

2:25 PM

it what?

Jorge Castro

or ... BURY AND DESTROY them

jokerdino

not when we retag a 100 of them at a time

jrg

Indeed.

jokerdino

(like we just did)

i really wish i have more than 5 delete votes

i would have destroyed so many of them <3

ObsessiveFOSS

I really wish my delete votes weren't imaginary.

aking1012

2:26 PM

crash delete-tag/retag complete

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS hehe

@aking1012 you are awesome!

aking1012

waiting for the sync before the downvoting begins

jokerdino

all the non closed crash tags are gone

jrg

you guys are awesome.

jokerdino

@jrg merge OP askubuntu.com/questions/86767/…

and close as dupe

close as bug - askubuntu.com/questions/135628/…

aking1012

2:29 PM

wait they're still showing as crash-tagged, but they don't show up in my query...

jokerdino

those are the last two. let them go :)

aking1012

kk

/me needs crysis3 to come out. stress relief would be good

jokerdino

good idea.

data.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/query/74994/…

nitstorm

ummm guys, starting and stopping ufw enables / disables iptables right?

I mean if you thought of iptables as a service and wanted to start and stop it

jokerdino

:/

nitstorm

2:54 PM

This seems to be a question that has too many times been asked on AU

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Q: Will a Wubi install of Ubuntu effect my Windows installation in anyway?

Having never tried a Linux OS before, I want to dabble and take a look at one. Ubuntu seems like a good distro to go with (due to how popular it is) and I want to use Wubi to try it out. I just wanted to know if anything I do while trying out Ubuntu will effect my Windows Installation or the fi...

installation windows wubi

jrg

always fun to have compiz leak memory.

nitstorm

LOL :P

jokerdino

not enough votes, not enough close votes, not enough delete votes.

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