Ask Ubuntu General Room

Mochan

06:00

moo

jokerdino

i like peace and silence. let there be serenity and tranquility.

2

Mochan

moomooomooo

Olive Twist

silently starred the message saying "me too"

Mochan

._.

jokerdino

is that poker face?

Mochan

06:03

This room isn’t hyper anymore.

jokerdino

Jorge likes it that way.

Mochan

@jokerdino ¯_(._.)_/¯

@jokerdino Who's Jorge? Jorge Castro?

jokerdino

Why are you lifting heavy stuff?

Mochan

Hi @Nescio

Nescio

Hello

Mochan

06:05

@jokerdino I have to carry my intelligence sometimes. LOL

jokerdino

hi

Olive Twist

Hello

jokerdino

@Mochan lol scowls in a corner

Mochan

@jokerdino Pwned, sir.

Olive Twist

@Mochan lol

Amith KK

06:05

BBL

jokerdino

@AmithKK bye

Mochan

Moo

jokerdino

You are one of those who got addicted to this chat room. I swear.

Mochan

@jokerdino I know...

jokerdino

When did that happen?

Mochan

06:07

@jokerdino Couple days ago, maybe.

Bye @penreturn

jokerdino

:/

:\

I need halp.

Mochan

I'm leaving. I'll give you your peace and tranquillity.

jokerdino

@Mochan nah.

i am not being mean.

i am just falling asleep.

Mochan

안녕 모든 사람들이

Journeyman Geek

lol

Mochan

06:08

Bye~

Olive Twist

The Ubuntu 10.04 DVD was also a Live DVD like these days, right?

jokerdino

you can just swear in english FWIW

Olive Twist

@jokerdino what help?

Mochan

-.-

I'm out!

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

06:09

@OliveTwist nothing. no worries.

@Mochan cya

don't hate me ;p

Olive Twist

@Mochan bye~

jokerdino

wait, why do you say hello everyone when you are leaving lol?

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: Ya, I can hate you for scaring her off ;p

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek pfft

i be the villain.

Olive Twist

@JourneymanGeek :D

jokerdino

06:10

groans

Olive Twist

> In 10.04 (Lucid) the DVD used to include both the graphical and the text-mode installers.

is it true? i think not

jokerdino

it might be true

debian installer has both

Journeyman Geek

I vaguely seem to think so

jokerdino

you need to press some button when the vitruvian man comes up

Olive Twist

hmm.. i don't have a 10.04 dvd

Journeyman Geek

06:14

just uses minimal install disks these days anyway

jokerdino

ubiquity is better than most linux installers

Olive Twist

cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release

it isn't saying anything about text mode tho

seems 10.04 had alternate method but 12.04 doesn't

the question now is, whether 10.04 also included a Live filesystem on the same DVD

Takkat

Hello all :)

Olive Twist

@Takkat hi

jokerdino

@OliveTwist 10.04 had a live cd

Olive Twist

06:21

i mean on the same DVD image

Takkat

@OliveTwist you can choose a text based install from menu on boot

kan

I asked a question on the main. Will someone tell me how it looks?

jokerdino

@kan no

jk, link?

kan

@jokerdino :( No? Why?

Takkat

0

Q: Qute -- Worthy or what's its analogue?

Friends, I wanted to use Qute on my Ubuntu 12.04. There are a couple of problems: It relies on a dead project. One has to compile the files there. The question now is: is it worth the pain to install this thingy? If the answer to the previous question is no, then what is an alternative? ...

Olive Twist

06:23

Looking at the files of 10.04 DVD there isn't any filesystem.squashfs file which is the Live partition

which is present in 12.04

jokerdino

@kan i'll try installing it here

kan

@jokerdino Fantastic. Please do so. If you succeed. You'll have to walk me through... Wiill you please?

jokerdino

@kan ok as you say master

kan

@jokerdino ;-) Sorry, if sounded imposing. :)

jokerdino

@kan heh no

Olive Twist

06:25

he was joking

cause he is a joker ;P

don't mind it @jokerdino

BBL

jokerdino

no problem

@kan looks messy. i wouldn't try qute.

there is no documentation for compiling it o.O

kan

@jokerdino True. Unfortunately,

jokerdino

brb; rebooting

Takkat

@kan anything special you need but more standard editors don't offer? See this comparison list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_TeX_editors

kan

@Takkat I want markdown + TeX support. Would love if I can export to other formats.

Takkat

06:35

@kan most editors support most formats when installing plugins...

kan

@Takkat I see.

A curiosity crosses my mind: when 12.10 is out in the wild, can 12.04er upgrade easily?

jokerdino

yeah

Takkat

@kan most likely but think of the advantages when staying with the LTS 12.04 for a while.

jokerdino

update-manager -c when it is out

i, for one, run devel release.

Takkat

I only upgrade when I really need it because of an application update.

kan

06:38

@jokerdino OK. :)

Takkat

In fact if you don''t mind the one or other bug you could as well upgrade now - its almost finished.

kan

@Takkat Sure thing. I am a newbie. 3rd day with this woman ahem ubuntu.

Takkat

@kan as a newbie I strongly recommend to stay with a stable release until you knwo how to do things.

jokerdino

stick with LTS

12.04 is as solid as you can get with Unity.

Takkat

+1 joker

Journeyman Geek

06:40

Actually, Unless you don't mind doing an upgrade every year...

kan

OK folks. I won't upgrade for sure... It was plain curiosity.

Takkat

Upgrades with Ubuntu are very much different to Windows. They also upgrade your applications, and they come with frequent security updates.

jokerdino

@kan there is nothing wrong with upgrading. you just need more experience.

Takkat

<-- learned the most from bugs

jokerdino

which you would get by upgrading. It's a circle yo!

Takkat

06:44

Circle yeah, but never vicious!

jokerdino

could be a virtuous one

Takkat

lol

Since when do we support Windows prerelease BSOD: askubuntu.com/questions/200879/… ???

jokerdino

never.

Takkat

But there is an answer! They run on 10.04

jokerdino

virtualbox guests are offtopic..

7

A: Where's the off-topic line?

We <3 application questions. If you have a question about Firefox, it could be answered on AskSuSE or Ask Fedora, but you're not running Fedora or SuSE, you're running Ubuntu. :) So if we enforced application-questions be specific to Ubuntu, we'd have very few questions left. It's hard to ma...

Takkat

06:55

++1 again joker. answered, am commenting and will vote for OT

jokerdino

Thanks. Adding answer to help the person never hurts!

Takkat

Nevva

at least in my answer I did not mention any alien OS. We may have it somewhere as dupe already - too lazy for searching.

jokerdino

hehe

Olive Twist

@Takkat what specific advantage are you pointing at

back and hi

jokerdino

long term support and updates

Takkat

06:58

don't take to words out of my mouth @jokerdino... :) and fewer bugs.

jokerdino

heh, i thought it was public knowledge.

Takkat

LTS is definitely more stable as a .10 release.

Olive Twist

Oh, i see

<-- loves cutting-edge softwares

Takkat

(never was happy with 9.10., and 10.10, 11.10 was sort of ok-ish)

Olive Twist

I am actually in a big problem

Takkat

07:00

Big problems call for easy solutions.

Olive Twist

I plan to stick with an stable release than after 6 months there is another Ubuntu with awesome (latest) features

I'm trying it since 10.04

:(

no success

Takkat

@OliveTwist same here -.-

Olive Twist

Every next Ubuntu release is awesomer than the previous one

(most of the time)

Takkat

I bet by New Years Eve my productive box will run 12.10.

Olive Twist

and I already fell in Love with 12.10

jokerdino

07:03

i wouldn't mind running 12.04 but i like the software updates

it's more about the software than unity itself

good thing ubuntu has a faster release cycle

Olive Twist

what is actually in unity 6?

jokerdino

i would die using debian

Takkat

They have a rolling release version

Olive Twist

@jokerdino i am starting to think it as a bad thing

jokerdino

@olive, webapps, previews, better windows spread

@Takkat i discount that.

Takkat

07:04

Amazon in Dash :)

Olive Twist

i don't need webapps

jokerdino

i removed it

Olive Twist

me too

but what is previews?

jokerdino

dash previews

Olive Twist

oh.

jokerdino

07:05

right click on dash items and it shows bigger

Takkat

They may be a a pain on a slower machine.

Olive Twist

i saw it

jokerdino

also, the keyboard shortcut overlay has my patch ;D

2

super + V -

Olive Twist

I know

grats!

jokerdino

so, that's a good reason to use 12.10

Olive Twist

07:07

I agree

Takkat

12.10 is the first release in a long time which still can not run in Virtual Box shortly before release :"(

Olive Twist

Eliah kagan was telling , if you click improve, the edits will be approved and community and edited by the improver

askubuntu.com/posts/196247/revisions

but i don't know how "Community" invade here^

jokerdino

did you actually edit anything?

Olive Twist

No

jokerdino

then ofcourse no

community is the blanket for anon users

Olive Twist

07:10

I was thinking so, until discussed this with Eliah Kagan. @Takkat was in the room at that time

I might missed something

jokerdino

when he means improve, he really means improve.

so, you have to actually improve so it shows your name

Takkat

@OliveTwist I remember saying "sophisticated" which translate i almost understood it.

Mochan

..crawling back

jokerdino

@Mochan waves

Mochan

o/

Takkat

07:11

o/ to all back scrubbers

Mochan

Sorry?

Takkat

was a joke...

Olive Twist

o/

Mochan

@Takkat I know. I was joking ;)

jokerdino

@Takkat no worries. i am just a bit blank.

i googled scrubbers and i was like woah

Takkat

07:14

Scrubber

Mochan

Lol

jokerdino

literal one

Mochan

I hear the word commonly used for the "other" definition. It rubs me the wrong way, really...

jokerdino

i don't understand.

oh wait.

never mind.

Mochan

Mm

jokerdino

07:17

bRb

Mochan

Bring Rubber Buckets? No.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: How to share files Between RHEL and Ubuntu

I have installed RHEL 5.5 on VIrtual Box and Host system is Ubuntu 12.04. I can access the files of Ubuntu by using the sharing services of Virtual Box. But how can I access the files of RHEL which is installed on Virtual Box?

ubuntu rhel file-sharing

Olive Twist

@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L Ignoring you

jokerdino

@Mochan :|

hi @hack.

Mochan

@OliveTwist +1

@jokerdino :|

Olive Twist

07:21

:|

HackToHell

@jokerdino hii

jokerdino

@HackToHell meet the new inhouse nerd in the making

HackToHell

nice avatar :P

Who ? 0_o

jokerdino

hah, Sathya made it.

@HackToHell Moc*

HackToHell

;p

Takkat

07:23

Can we improve this in any way? askubuntu.com/questions/200886/…

jokerdino

@Takkat i was wondering if it was a question or not

kan

Spam?

jokerdino

i was expecting a spam.

lol same feeling @kan.

Takkat

i understand it like "why ubuntu talk my tongue when I can other native too speak"

kan

JINX.

Takkat

07:24

No spam - rant or so...

Or a real prob with downloading locales

jokerdino

or incomplete lang packs

ok i now think it is not a question. not a little bit.

Olive Twist

voted it as "NARQ"

jokerdino

thx

Mochan

@jokerdino You should have buzzed me, I would have said hi!

@HackToHell Hi~

jokerdino

@Mochan you said don't buzz me last time.

Mochan

07:29

@jokerdino Suppose. My bad.

jokerdino

ta!

Mochan

>.>

I've crawled back because there is nothing better to do

jokerdino

Who was it in your gravatar again?

All koreans look the same <.<

Journeyman Geek

lol

There's other Koreans here?

also, ooh scrubbers

Mochan

@jokerdino Racist

jokerdino

07:31

If you were in Korea, I would have asked you to check out Gwon Han-na for me. But, you aren't. :/

Journeyman Geek

I know of em. concequence of the day job ;p

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek you scrub daily? what?

@Mochan dies of shock

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: naw, air scrubbers.

kan

Is there something cool I must really try out being a newbie to ubuntu?

Mochan

@jokerdino Not sure who Gwon Han-na is. But the girl in the picture is Son Ga-in.

jokerdino

07:32

@kan break 'em

Journeyman Geek

Well one of the things I'm familiar with, at a distance is water purification

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek i see.

Takkat

@kan command line!

kan

@jokerdino :-|

Journeyman Geek

@kan: beat the crap out of anyone who tells you to run rm -rf /

jokerdino

07:33

@Mochan she was my sweetheart for a week. ;p

HackToHell

@Mochan hi

Journeyman Geek

aww ;p

Mochan

@jokerdino It is. You understand that's like saying 'all asians look the same', 'all Americans are stupid', 'All Japanese people are geeky'. =.=

@HackToHell Hello~! ^o^

HackToHell

who is that in @Mochan's avatar

kan

@Takkat I thought so. But, something more specific.

Mochan

07:34

@jokerdino That's so cute~ ^^

jokerdino

@Mochan jeez I am an asian.

Mochan

@HackToHell Son Ga-in. 손가인.

HackToHell

0_o

Mochan

@jokerdino Yeah, so you shouldn't say things like 'All Koreans look the same'.

Takkat

@kan terminal commands are the coolest thing I can think of.

jokerdino

07:35

@Mochan it was a joke. dummy.

손가인

Mochan

@jokerdino I know... I'm touchy.

HackToHell

The only korean i know is psy :P

jokerdino

@Mochan shrug

kan

@Takkat OK. :)

Mochan

@jokerdino Uh-huh. If I were a boy... I'd fly to Korea and ask her hand in marriage. Sadly, I'm not a lesbian.

jokerdino

07:36

@HackToHell You don't know Gwon Han-na?

HackToHell

nope

jokerdino

@Mochan O_o

@HackToHell good then.

Mochan

@HackToHell Everyone knows PSY. Some before others (me). But basically, if you don't, your socially unaccepted -.-; Sigh

HackToHell

A Handball player ?

Mochan

@jokerdino What? Authentic tale, my brethren.

Takkat

07:37

@kan it really depends on your personal interest. I then started installing billions of applications - ended up to clean up with a fresh install.

jokerdino

@HackToHell ZOMG>

kan

@Takkat I might end up doing too. :)

I am just trying out various things.

jokerdino

@Mochan ok bro

HackToHell

@jokerdino [look of disapproval]

Mochan

@jokerdino :P

Takkat

07:38

@kan frequently backup your /home and you are safe.

Mochan

@HackToHell Extreme urge to edit...

@Takkat I hate doing that. So annoying =o=

HackToHell

@Mochan Do you use an extension or just google them ?

jokerdino

@HackToHell she was cute k?

@HackToHell just me

Takkat

@Mochan I know: "Backups are for cowards" ;)

HackToHell

your idea of cute sucks :P

jokerdino

07:39

@HackToHell don't get me started ;p

Olive Twist

Let's see who is quicker in giving link (preferred official)

kan

OK. Setting up emacs. :-))

jokerdino

VIM wins hands down vs Emacs.

Mochan

Aw~ Gwon han-na is cute~ @jokerdino

HackToHell

@jokerdino go die in hell :P

@OliveTwist nice try :P :P lazy

kan

07:40

@jokerdino Won't agree. <3

jokerdino

@HackToHell shoo

Olive Twist

The policy change note of changing of CD to DVD?

jokerdino

@Mochan ~

@kan nano ftw

Mochan

@jokerdino Look of approval.

Tildes FTW

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

She's so cute... but brutal-looking also XD

HackToHell

@jokerdino When do ya study, you are chatting all the time

jokerdino

07:42

I watched semi final and bronze medal match.

@HackToHell i got a book here.

HackToHell

I said study not open a book :P

Olive Twist

< what are they talking bout?

jokerdino

i study when i have to.

like never.

Mochan

@jokerdino LOL

^-- Ga-in

jokerdino

i thought that was you ;p

Mochan

07:47

I tried finding a cute picture of her... but 'cute' isn't what she aims for.

@jokerdino I remember. I'm not as pretty ;A;

penreturn

enjoy \m/ youtube.com/watch?v=syqvyubE9uA&feature=fvst

Mochan

Hi @penreturn

jokerdino

adbreak \o/

@Mochan <no comments>

penreturn

hi @Mochan , @jokerdino

Takkat

@Mochan Photoshopped.

Mochan

07:48

@jokerdino ?

jokerdino

@penreturn how's you?

Mochan

@Takkat How?

jokerdino

@Mochan ??

HackToHell

now she looks nice :P

jokerdino

@Takkat cosmetic surgery.

HackToHell

07:48

4

lol

jokerdino

@HackToHell aww <3

penreturn

<--- still working on sunday \o/

HackToHell

Awesome :) :)

jokerdino

@penreturn !

HackToHell

brb lunch

penreturn

07:49

hehehhehe yeahhh rendering time

jokerdino

wait, that looks like my twitter PP

@HackToHell cya

Mochan

@jokerdino Most Korean girls get cosmetic surgery. Something like 80% of Korean teenaged girls do. But Ga-in has monolids, and hasn't had plastic surgery.

jokerdino

@kan lunch yet?

Mochan

@jokerdino -kicks-

jokerdino

possible duplicate of How can I remove the Translation entries in apt? — jokerdino 7 secs ago

@takkat -^

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

07:50

0

Q: missing fedora in grub after installing ubuntu

I had fedora 17 in a primary partition. Yesterday I have installed ubuntu in an extended partition. and I cant see fedora in grub, so I trieg update-grub2 but it doesnt recorgonise fedora being present, even the fedora partition is mounted. So I tried to re-install grub from live usb but it didno...

ubuntu fedora grub dual-boot

jokerdino

@Mochan you can read sarcasm. ZOMG.

Mochan

This is her most well known photo. After this I'll stop:

Takkat

@jokerdino +++1 joker again

jokerdino

@Takkat \o/

Mochan

@jokerdino ZOMG. What's the Z stand for, Genius?

You guys are mean!! XD

jokerdino

07:52

@Mochan for added effect.

@Mochan i am just weird.

Mochan

I know.

So am I.

jokerdino

I beat you.

Mochan

Didn't think it was a competition, brother.

jokerdino

you are right bro

Mochan

I'd better study. I'll be here, but buzz me from now on.

jokerdino

07:55

buzz you.

@Mochan so, what are you studying for?

HackToHell

@jokerdino I thought you made it

jokerdino

@HackToHell it's my twitter PP

but i didn't make it.

it's some guy Kyatt

HackToHell

ok

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