Ask Ubuntu General Room

Roland Taylor

00:53

Why is it that whenever I get downvotes... they are for the most stupid reasons?

jrg

rage much?

Roland Taylor

yes

@jrg I was ignoring it at first until I saw the comment to explain why

jrg

Oh geeze.

i see it.

Roland Taylor

cause honestly I don't care if someone downvotes for a good reason

but why are all the downvotes I get on old answers, for stupid reasons .... essentially unsubstantiated?

Mat Nadrofsky

01:25

Interesting. This is my first post in the chat rooms. Nothing ground breaking here... ;)

Ground breaking as in what I'm saying in my first post... not what everyone else is saying, that's actually quite interesting.

George Edison

01:47

@MatNadrofsky Welcome!

Roland Taylor

02:25

@GeorgeEdison stackapplet is working

Questions Feed

Ubuntu One Music - Music folder won't sync http://askubuntu.com/questions/96402/ubuntu-one-music-music-folder-wont-sync #ubuntuone

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on January 18, 2012 at 2:24 AM

lazyPower

03:05

@jrg since when did you become such a household name/all-purpose-word?

Questions Feed

05:34

Can you answer this? How do I open a file from terminal? http://askubuntu.com/questions/95904/how-do-i-open-a-file-from-terminal #bash

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on January 18, 2012 at 5:24 AM

Bruno Pereira

08:22

goedemorgen allemaal

Questions Feed

08:35

Bounty offered: My Laptop Battery Does Not Charge http://askubuntu.com/questions/90562/my-laptop-battery-does-not-charge #powermanagement

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on January 18, 2012 at 8:24 AM

jokerdino

09:46

Anyone knows what is a left cmd key?

Stefano Palazzo

10:51

@jokerdino today, nobody knows anything

wikipedia is shut down

4

Amith KK

Hello all

jokerdino

totally makes sense.

Stefano Palazzo

@jokerdino it's the key with the "⌘" symbol on a macintosh keyboard

Bruno Pereira

@jokerdino he means the super key, next to alt, on the left side of the kb

Stefano Palazzo

isn't it? I dunno, that one's called the "command key"

jokerdino

10:53

hmm something like the meta key?

Stefano Palazzo

36

Q: What are the meta, super, and hyper keys?

In System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout -> Options ->Alt/Win key behavior What do meta, super, hyper mean?

keyboard-layout

jokerdino

i thought left cmd was the left mouse button.

ok brb after dinner. GTG :D

Stefano Palazzo

you can still read wikipedia :\

Amith KK

The people of the world have become 90% dumber due to @Wikipedia Protesting against #SOPA

Tweeted by SonicfanForlife on January 18, 2012 at 10:57 AM

@StefanoPalazzo en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Stefano Palazzo

ah good call

I just deleted the black overlay, but that's even better

2

Amith KK

10:59

@StefanoPalazzo Was writing a userscript for that

Stefano Palazzo

though I wish they would've just taken it offline entirely

Amith KK

2buntu.com

Stefano Palazzo

nice

well done

Amith KK

amith.dasroot.net

xkcd.com/214

@StefanoPalazzo plzz.de

Dont you blackout?

Stefano Palazzo

give me a minute (:

Amith KK

11:02

:D

Stefano Palazzo

that reminds me - I should probably make a proper site some time. start blogging on planet ubuntu as well.

Amith KK

11:30

@StefanoPalazzo Cool.. Want any help :D

Stefano Palazzo

thanks, but I think I'm all set. just set up a blog on blogger.com

too easy

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo YU NO OPEN?

htorque

why isn't ask ubuntu down?

i expected a black banner :P

Stefano Palazzo

because I can't be bothered to install mysql

:)

@htorque if we had just a banner, wouldn't that seem a bit hypocritical?

htorque

well, only the banner !:-)

Amith KK

11:36

►

The name of the music @htorque

Now :D

htorque

"irrelevant plastic poo"

scnr :P

Questions Feed

Closing abandoned questions is harder than it should be. http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2329/closing-abandoned-questions-is-harder-than-it-should-be

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on January 18, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Amith KK

@htorque ಠ_ಠ

jokerdino

11:52

ok back.

2

Q: Only show Unity laucher when left cmd/win key is pressed?

Ive seen plenty of guides on how to prevent the launcher/sidebar from ever auto-hiding, but how would I prevent it from ever showing except when I press the left cmd/win key?

11.10 64-bit unity-2d

someone make a call and tell me if he wants answer for unity or unity-2d..

Bruno Pereira

unity-2d, its tagged

Stefano Palazzo

how do I get "diff" to print "+" and "-" rather than ">" and "<"?

jokerdino

12:16

@BrunoPereira OK thanks.

htorque

@StefanoPalazzo diff -u

Stefano Palazzo

oh awesome, that's what I wanted

thanks

htorque

diff -ru | grep -v "^+++" | grep "^+"

:D

Stefano Palazzo

one of the GtkSourceView developers wants me to write a language spec for Python3 that only includes the differences between 2.x and 3.x

rather than a whole new file

so now I have to sort out exactly what is deprecated, what is new. for keywords, builtin functions and builtin objects

htorque

piece of cake, right? :P

Stefano Palazzo

12:22

absolutely! (sighs quietly)

jokerdino

0

A: Skype doesn't appear in the indicator zone

The same here... can not find solution anywhere... f**k!

I hope my flag gets approved. >:D

thanks :)

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque one more if you know.. how do I get diff to print me a list of added and removed lines, even if they are sorted differently?

it now says "-x" and "+x" if I moved something around

htorque

> if you know

:-/

jokerdino

%< ? (was looking through the man page )

Stefano Palazzo

that doesn't seem to do it

if the files were sorted, I could just use "comm"

htorque

12:33

maybe

 -w, --ignore-all-space
              ignore all white space

 -B, --ignore-blank-lines
              ignore changes whose lines are all blank

Stefano Palazzo

never mind, I'll go through each of them. I'm almost done anyway, it's about 30 items left

htorque

colordiff can also be useful

for simple stuff i just use meld (gui)

jrg

BLAME JRG!

9

Amith KK

I BLAME JRG FOR THE WIKIPEDIA BLACKOUT!!

4

jrg

great, not that again. :D

Amith KK

12:41

:D

Amith KK

13:00

BBL

rlemon

@jrg Y U MAKE ALL MY SESSIONS AND COOKIES FORGET?!?!?!?!

Stefano Palazzo

oh cool, I'm now on planet ubuntu

prepare yourselves (:

jokerdino

Oh I see @oli 's blog post in planet..

rlemon

OMG NEW TWITTER?!?!?!?! AHHHHHH!!!!! #DontFixWhatAintBroken

Tweeted by TheGreatRupert on January 18, 2012 at 1:11 PM

jokerdino

New twitter?

rlemon

13:14

Did not look like that yesterday (for me at least)

jokerdino

It doesn't look like that for me here. not yet.

rlemon

be prepared

jokerdino

fly.twitter.com

Bruno Pereira

Wow! Nice idea! askubuntu.com/questions/96507/…

(votes as not a question)

rlemon

newrelic.com

I see "Free TShirt" - I'm in!

Stefano Palazzo

13:33

I was ready to be outraged over wolfram's terms of use, but they're actually reasonable

apart from this bit:

> Your API Client is prohibited from caching Wolfram|Alpha content

that means, technically, you can't have a wolfram alpha lens

rlemon

13:44

Has everyone signed yet? rlemon.com

Bruno Pereira

@StefanoPalazzo maybe asking them nicely would be an option on that case?

Stefano Palazzo

I'm pretty sure they're not going to complain about that at all

for instance, if you write a web-app using their API, it will probably be cached somewhere - this rule is so vague, you're always going to violate it

they just mean you must send requests directly to their API (to ensure users always see up-to-date results, otherwise they'd look bad)

lawyers, eh :-)

rlemon

how often should I need to run apt-get update

jokerdino

it depends on your version.

rlemon

ubuntu version or apt version

jokerdino

13:50

Ubuntu release version.

If you got a pre release version, a couple of times a day. :D

rlemon

11.10 -

jokerdino

if not, may be once a day if you are OCD, or else once in a week.

rlemon

There seems to be something wrong with my system currently.

I am seeing a lot of 'bugs' in Chrome that only seem to be applicable to me.

ok, I like the once a day - slightly OCD

ok one more question than back to work.

Qt creator... is this like VS is to .NET?

If i'm jumping in, what should I know/do after installing Qt Creator from the USC

jokerdino

wait till someone who knows the answer sees it.

coz i got no idea

rlemon

well I've installed Qt Creator on my home and work pc.. from a first glance (not actually doing anything just loading the software then staring blankly at it) it appears to be VSish. However I have learned just about everything development related in Ubuntu does not work 'out of the box'

sorry, does not work as well as it could if someone who know what the hell they are doing directs you.

maybe i'll load the Hello World and mess around from there...

@jrg you better not screw this up for me!

rlemon

14:21

Anyone around who is good with Qt? Basically I have a project in mind - however I do need a push in the right direction.

Questions Feed

Bounty offered: How can I merge the different keyboard indicators? http://askubuntu.com/questions/31440/how-can-i-merge-the-different-keyboard-indicators #indicator

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on January 18, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Stefano Palazzo

@rlemon you should talk to @GeorgeEdison, he's a Qt magician

that doesn't sound right

rlemon

lol

“No valid QT version found” Problem.

I read there are packages I need, however the posting was not specific as to which packages.

Stefano Palazzo

for the record, it's pronounced "cju, tee"

rlemon

I have only just installed Qt Creator from the USC

I always pronounced it as "Queue te" (like cute but with more of a u sound)

Stefano Palazzo

14:35

that sounds like a bug

according to what I can find, sudo apt-get install qtcreator should get you everything you need

@rlemon try installing "libqt4-dev"

rlemon

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
qtcreator is already the newest version.

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
libqt4-dev is already the newest version.
libqt4-dev set to manually installed.

Stefano Palazzo

@rlemon qmake is installed as well?

Alvar

hi everyone! :)

I need some help with ping marks on my server

what is a good ping to have if I $ping ADDRESS ?

rlemon

@StefanoPalazzo where do i install that? also how do I see if it is installed.

damn Ubuntu - Y U NO SUPPLY out of box WORKING SOFTWARE?

Alvar

@stefanoPalazzo my page is also in the strike ;)

Stefano Palazzo

14:40

@rlemon you could probably type "whereis qmake". if it's not installed, run sudo apt-get install qmake and then open up Qt Creator, go to Tools → Options → Qt 4 and add the path to qmake there

rlemon

rlemon.com STRIKE!

Alvar

@rlemon I used another one...

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar I don't understand what you mean. "ping -c 4 127.0.0.1"?

rlemon

qmake: /usr/bin/qmake /usr/share/man/man1/qmake.1.gz

which dir should I use?

Stefano Palazzo

yes, /usr/bin/qmake is the one you want

Alvar

14:41

@StefanoPalazzo what's a good ping TIME to have? how many ms is good?

Stefano Palazzo

aaah

Alvar

http://83.233.234.245/
my dns is out of sync...

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar the fastest, nearest server you could ping is probably 8.8.8.8

try pinging that and see what time you get

it's around 45ms for me

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo 42ms for me..

Stefano Palazzo

that's fine then

Alvar

14:43

@StefanoPalazzo I pinged my laptops server, and it was like 3 ms...

Stefano Palazzo

if I ping 8.8.8.8 from my web-server, it's 5 milliseconds

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo what do you get if you ping 83.233.234.245 ?

@StefanoPalazzo hmm..

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar 30 milliseconds

Alvar

cool :)

Stefano Palazzo

that's again from my web server, which has an awesome internet connection

Alvar

14:44

@StefanoPalazzo that's the laptop I'm sitting on / server! :D

rlemon

The page http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/201/ask-ubuntu-general-room is on strike today to fight the Stop Online Piracy Act.

Stefano Palazzo

from my local host it's 70ms

Alvar

@rlemon LOL

rlemon

wrong $_SERVER var?

Jorge Castro

yo @StefanoPalazzo!

Alvar

14:44

@rlemon it's using the last address and not the current one xD

Jorge Castro

I have a mug and tshirt ready for you!

I just need that charm! :)

Alvar

@JorgeCastro it's so human like! :P

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro I looked into that mozilla thing, it's pretty hefty :\

rlemon

@Alvar Ive done that before.

Jorge Castro

oh?

Stefano Palazzo

14:45

lots of java too

Jorge Castro

what's hefty about it?

ugh, eh? I thought they redid it in python?

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo just realized Java so sooo much fun :)

rlemon

Guys - Qt - I want to create a app for Ubuntu - well a desktop 'widget'

Jorge Castro

I thought they djangoe'ed it

rlemon

Can someone point me in the right direction.

Stefano Palazzo

14:46

@JorgeCastro well, hefty in context. Ondina is getting close to private preview, so I'm pretty busy still for a couple of days. I also saw something about a rewrite in python - but as far as I could see that was only the front-end

might be wrong

Alvar

@rlemon talk to: @georgeEdison

Jorge Castro

ah ok

k

rlemon

@Alvar Get him in here. :P

Alvar

@rlemon w8 a couple of hours and he WILL show up..

rlemon

I have always been confused by George

is his name George Edison or Nathan Osman

?!?!

Jorge Castro

14:48

he's both!

@StefanoPalazzo I see some ruby stuff in there

rlemon

BUT WHYYYYYYYYY??????? Tax evasion ?

Stefano Palazzo

►

↑ 1 hour talk about what names are

the upshot is: not everyone has one name, or even a name

jokerdino

I see what is going on in #ubuntu-community

rlemon

So I can just willy nilly change my name to Nilly Willy?

Stefano Palazzo

depends. if you live in france, you can't change your name at all. if you're british, it's quite easy

rlemon

14:52

in canada it costs like $200 or something but you can do it online.

Stefano Palazzo

I'd do that in a heartbeat. it's very difficult in germany too, unfortunately

not change my name, but add second, third and fourth names

rlemon

I was thinking i'm tired of being a lemon - Robert Lime... that has a nice ring to it.

jokerdino

why would i want to change my name?

unless i have a lemon in there, i think mine is just fine :)

rlemon

because you could be Bruce Banner!

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro actually, I was probably looking at the wrong repository

they have 8 of them :)

Jorge Castro

14:56

I am getting confirmation from mozilla

github.com/mozilla/caseconductor

is what you want I am sure

lol I found the one that needs jboss

Stefano Palazzo

right, I was looking at that probably. caseconductor-platform

Jorge Castro

yeah I think the new django one replaces all that

someone is finding out for us

Stefano Palazzo

if I'm not totally mistaken, the ruby stuff is just for sass - so that's no problem

rlemon

@StefanoPalazzo I have updated that page.... however this doesnt look right.

Stefano Palazzo

(and sass is a css compiler)

@rlemon I've never used qt creator, can you post a screenshot? does it still give you that error?

rlemon

14:59

and the same error as noted before.

Stefano Palazzo

:\ it might be time to ask a question on au

rlemon

also - Qt sessions don't appear in my launcher or ALT+TAB menus

I have to minimize all other windows to find it back ther.e

brb gonna relog and see if that helps.

Stefano Palazzo

if you're feeling lucky, you could install kdevelop. that'll probably pull down a million dependencies, give you everything you need

plus KDE

rlemon

ok so I think i've figured out my chrome bug too - Cookies are lost when I close all instances of the browser.

so Qt now shows instances in the launcher but that is about it. nothing else works.

bullocks

Marco Ceppi

Morning

jokerdino

15:04

@rlemon I am happy you are trying your best to stick with Ubuntu \o/

rlemon

I don't give up easily

Ubuntu is now my Biatch and I must own her.

Stefano Palazzo

morning Marco!

@Jorge there are a bunch of charms in .charms/oneiric. which one of those would be a good one to fork?

i.e. one that hasn't got a lot of stuff in it

rlemon

@MarcoCeppi Morning - should I continue waiting for George for my Qt issues or are you also a Qt demi-god?

Marco Ceppi

I know nothing of Qt

rlemon

kk :P

you know why Chrome decides to 'remember' my cookies (I can see them in the "Cookies and Other Data" page) but does not use them ??

Jorge Castro

15:09

@StefanoPalazzo any one of them

@StefanoPalazzo though "charm create" gets you 90% there

after that all you need is Marco's charm tools

which has convenience functions

haha "Marco Ceppi's Charm Tools(tm)"

Stefano Palazzo

cool, thanks. I'll try to get caseconductor to run first of all

Marco Ceppi

I'm producing a commercial with Vince Shlomi for Marco Ceppi's Charm Tools(tm)

Stefano Palazzo

nope, I absolutely don't know what I'm doing here (:

Jorge Castro

15:24

one time I had my cat stuck in a tree

and charm-tools saved the day

Marco Ceppi

ch_get_cat ?

Jorge Castro

is it possible to move a card between trello boards yet?

rlemon

►

jokerdino

@JorgeCastro from one board to another one?

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro I don't think so\

jokerdino

15:32

i think you can.

rlemon

That is a video of my Cookie Conundrum

jokerdino

on the side of every card, there is some dropdown options. click on move and select the board?

Jorge Castro

dude you are awesome!

rlemon

Man, I wish I could 'Fork' a question.

1

Q: Google Chrome loses logged-in-sessions on shutdown

I'm running google chrome 11.0.696, Lucid Lynx. Despite having the cookies setting set to allow all cookies, and the "clear cookies on shutdown" option unchecked, I continually lose my logged in sessions (and presumably the login cookies) when I shut chrome down. I'm guessing this is a bug, but...

10.04 login google-chrome session

from May of last year... no solutions.. very little action.

and for 10.04

Jorge Castro

take it over!

rlemon

15:39

just edit it?

update with current information / browser version / ubuntu version ?

jokerdino

upvote and bounty it

rlemon

but I would need to first update the question with my specific details correct?

Jorge Castro

sure

rlemon

11.10 and Google Chrome 16.0.912.75 (Official Build 116452)

Jorge Castro

I mean, if it's sitting there being worthless, take it over

unless we're not supposed to do that

/me eyes what marcopallazzo recommends

jokerdino

15:41

2

Q: How do I get the Broadcom BCM4313 wireless working on an Asus 1015PX?

I installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my Asus 1015PX which is certified by Canonical. My WiFi is not working. I read about the BCM4313 troubles and tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php I already tried everything in the threa...

broadcom

ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783272 is this related to that in any way?

even though i have the same wifi driver, i am not actually sure.

rlemon

can someone approve my edit on

1

Q: Google Chrome loses logged-in-sessions on shutdown

I'm running google chrome 11.0.696, Lucid Lynx. Despite having the cookies setting set to allow all cookies, and the "clear cookies on shutdown" option unchecked, I continually lose my logged in sessions (and presumably the login cookies) when I shut chrome down. I'm guessing this is a bug, but...

10.04 login google-chrome session

common peers review!

Amith KK

16:08

0

Q: Some gnome programs having lost graphic elements

Some nautilus, empathy etc windows are having some lost graphic elements: But some apps such as Xfce Terminal still looks normal Is this because of some package missing?

11.10 nautilus empathy xfce

rlemon

@AmithKK you know Qt Creator?

Amith KK

@rlemon Yeah?

I had it

in the last install

rlemon

Basically I can't get this thing working..

Amith KK

@rlemon Whats up?

Segmentation Fault?

rlemon

developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/7200/P15 <- this article explains my problem... but in Ubuntu not windows.

I have just (for the first time) installed and trying to use Qt Creator (never written anything Qt either)

Amith KK

16:15

@rlemon How did you install it

rlemon

USC -> Qt Creator

Amith KK

@rlemon What does your log say?

rlemon

which log

sorry ubuntu newbie

Amith KK

@rlemon Start it in the terminal

rlemon

still getting this

and I have setup the qt version (i think)

1 hour ago, by rlemon

Amith KK

16:21

2

A: Qt Creator won't recognize any Qt version

The problem wasn't the missing Qt version but the missing tool chain. In Tools → Options → Tool Chains add GCC and set your gcc path as the Compiler path.

rlemon

lol yea i just found that.

woot!

thanks @AmithKK

Amith KK

@rlemon np

rlemon

@AmithKK rlemon.com <- you signed yet?

Amith KK

@rlemon Yep

rlemon

good

:P

Stefano Palazzo

16:26

@JorgeCastro do you have someone around who's manage to run caseconductor?

I'm half sure I did everything correctly so far, and it seems to be running but I get a 404 on /

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo A caseconductor?

rlemon

command g++ not found.

anyone?

Stefano Palazzo

@AmithKK it's the name of a project by mozilla

Marco Ceppi

@rlemon build-essentials ?

Amith KK

@rlemon YU NO INSTALL TOOL CHAIN?

Jorge Castro

16:28

@StefanoPalazzo no clue, let me ask

Amith KK

@rlemon sudo apt-get install build-essentials

Roland Taylor

omg

I failed on my promise

:(

rlemon

@AmithKK Y QT NO WORK OUT OF BOX?

Roland Taylor

I forgot to check the review page yesterday :(

rlemon

ugh... Unable to locate package build-essentials

Roland Taylor

16:32

try removing the s

2

rlemon

@RolandTaylor +1

Roland Taylor

\o/

Amith KK

@RolandTaylor +1

rlemon

is there any documentation that outlines the different project types and what they could/should be used for..

Amith KK

BBT

Roland Taylor

16:36

@AmithKK cya

Roland Taylor

16:49

oh btw guys... LibreOffice 3.5 ftw

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