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Oli
1:01 PM
Noticed that the screenshots shutter takes in 11.10 are a lot better, pixel perfect transparency around window borders.
Even gnome-screenshot seems to be having a better time of things. It's sticking a drop shadow in by default but it's not making window corners transparent (so it still looks a bit fugly)
 
shutter shutter or gnome-screenshot shutter?
no idea why they can't fix that.
 
Oli
The first message is about Shutter. The second, gnome-screenshot (if it's still called that)?
 
it's called "screenshot", the command is still gnome-screenshot
 
Oli
Shutter's looking pretty good. If only it could also include the window shadow too, we'd have truly pretty OSX-like screenshots. (You can apply them manually afterward - it's just a PITA)
 
jrg
Exactly
 
1:04 PM
never tried shutter, let me install
> After this operation, 24.5 MB of additional disk space will be used.
for a screenshot tool, yay!
 
jrg
it's a bunch of perl stuff. :P
 
yeah, has some nice features, but i'll still purge it.
> After this operation, 17.5 MB disk space will be freed.
-.-
 
jrg
heh, you'll have to do a sudo apt-get autoremove there. :P
 
> After this operation, 6,367 kB disk space will be freed.
 
jrg
lolz
 
1:07 PM
still not right
now i'm curious why :-)
 
Hello Marco.
 
wtf... package A is installed and suggests package B. package B isn't installed and depends on package C. now shutter installed package C and it didn't get removed because A is installed.
 
jrg
:D
 
and that for nine packages
either because they are suggested by some other package, or because they are in the dependencies of a suggested package from any installed package. WHAAAAAT!
i'm so going to terrorize someone on irc with that.
 
1:18 PM
that worked great, I can now have unlimited filenames and there's no journal at the start of the file, but it's fragmenting like crazy :-)
what fun
and it's only about 60 lines of code
 
Morning
 
morning Marco o/
 
@MarcoCeppi hi
 
hi @MarcoCeppi
@MarcoCeppi Are you on Precise?
 
Going to try to write a Juju charm for Ask Ubuntu data servers today in the Charm School
No, Oneiric
I don't do Ubuntu+1
 
1:29 PM
I'll be there in the Charm School. :)
 
Awwww yeah!
 
I do out of curiosity but only on a separate partition. :D
 
charm school? you are dismissed! :D
multi monitor is some heavy topic.
 
@htorque Yeah, have you seen the demo of unity on 6 monitors?
 
I switched over to the Community Roundtable.
 
1:38 PM
Multi-monitor support is really the big push for this cycle
 
haven't seen a recording, just the blog post by bilal
even with two monitors it sucks, if you wanna use the grid plugin :D
three monitors with the middle one being the primary monitor is also fun: afaik the launcher would be placed at the left-most screen.
i'll just use the Fn key combo next week (giving a little talk) - i hope it will work precise-ly as it should :D
 
drools Six monitors.
 
you have only two eyes!
:D
i wouldn't know what to do with six monitors
one AU site, one AU chat, and four football games :D
 
@htorque says who?
I have 4...
 
jrg
six monitors?!
 
1:44 PM
A bit overkill- ish
 
jrg
one htop, one tail -f /var/log/syslog, one AU chat, one IRC, one AU site, one for vim/everything else. :D
 
chicken eyes? :D
 
@htorque Well you don't need to have an eye on every monitor at the same time.
 
can't i use virtual desktops then? :)
 
I'll see if I can find the video
 
1:45 PM
Just think about virtual desktops on six physical ones.
 
That's a bit pointless imho.
 
just thinking about my neck after working 8 hours with six displays.
 
I use virtual desktops to hide what I don't really want to look at because I'm not using it at the time.
Multiple monitors would be great for spreading work out, but it's not something I'd use often
 
Tons of documentation open plus more than one project you work on open. That is amazing.
 
\o/
 
1:50 PM
Oh god that is so sexy.
 
Ninja'd
You found it :P
 
@MarcoCeppi 404
 
jrg
@htorque is that the one from this UDS?
 
@MarcoCeppi Not ninja'd. It is a different video!
 
The wrong video :P
 
jrg
1:53 PM
yeah, was going to say...
 
No wait, @htorque's video is from fiesty
 
Oli
There is no video. The video is a lie.
 
That is what I'm talking about.
 
Oli
This one?
 
@MarcoCeppi hardy
 
2:05 PM
@MarcoCeppi where are you?
 
In the room
I'm not in IRC
 
Ah alright.
 
Better now :)
 
Definitely. :D
Oh Marco to have an interview with Amber! :)
 
How can I set up a filter in Synaptic that finds all packages not installed from official repositories? http://askubuntu.com/questions/75421/how-can-i-set-up-a-filter-in-synaptic-that-finds-all-packages-not-installed-from #ppa
 
2:22 PM
Time to make a How do I install UT on 11.10 question :)
 
@OctavianDamiean Another one :) I did one yesterday for Ubuntu User about Ask Ubuntu
 
2:34 PM
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Q: How do I install Ubuntu-Tweak?

Roland TaylorI have heard a lot about Ubuntu-Tweak and how it is great for power users, but I don't know how to install it. How do I do that?

Lol someone posted an answer while I was finishing up :)
 
Can't believe that we didn't have that question already!
 
Oli
2:56 PM
I think it's in a ton of answers ("How do I change this?" => "Install Ubuntu Tweak by adding the PPA, etc, etc")
 
I created the question cause I got tired of typing "Add this, do that, blablabla" over and over :P
 
What the ...? My hard drive now cost more then when I bought it.
 
:) welcome to earth, son.
 
I bought it with 150 € back then and now it costs almost 180 €!
@MarcoCeppi Great moving the Charm School to Grand Sierra E! There is no audio!!! :(
Neither IRC.
 
heh, the price of my wd green 2tb almost doubled!
"Ubuntu Accomplishments and Trophies" curacau2
 
3:12 PM
I kinda feel left out now.
 
why? :)
 
it feels great to be lurking haha :P
 
Well the Charm School was supposed to be in Bonaire 8 and now it was moved to Grand Sierra E.
No audio or IRC.
Leaves me alone with the charms documentation.
 
Hey guys, I have a computer on my network running 10.10 and is hanging during updates via the update manager. It always hangs on the first update... any ideas on what may be going on?
 
3:35 PM
uds. serious business. :P
 
Heh
A bit too serious if you ask me.
 
not serious enough if you ask me. :P
but i think they all got enough work items already from backlog. :P
 
750MB.
I win.
bye bye now :)
 
@OctavianDamiean We're taping it
 
Ah alright. :)
 
3:51 PM
@OctavianDamiean It was the difference between sitting in chairs with no tables and sitting in a room with tables
 
@OctavianDamiean do you feel like ask ubuntu is all about competition? tbh i don't get the concerns in that session.
 
I see. Makes sense.
 
Which session?
 
Ubuntu Accomplishments and Trophies
 
@htorque No but there is something about the badges. I mean I'm happy when I get one.
 
3:52 PM
badges for certain tasks, etc
 
Indeed!
Copy editor, or Deputy.
 
But those are rewards for achievements
 
i'm happy, but i don't feel superior just because i'm AU #8 rep user
:D
 
Nah neither do I.
 
I think those with high rep are humbled
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3:53 PM
They look at it from a wrong perspective if you ask me.
It is not about competition but about the game-factor.
 
yeah, it's all about fun.
 
Like leveling up.
 
and all the stats and badges are just there to show: here's what i did.
nothing more, nothing less.
 
it's all about the rep. rep is what makes me who I am
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what other reasons are there to live?
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jrg
wow, 75 thousand questions.
@ajmitch there aren't any other reasons to live outside of rep.
 
4:00 PM
@jrg super sorry i abruptly ended
I discovered a few things
 
jrg
No worries.
 
Father pulls random wire == not good
 
Alright. What looks interesting? OneConf and the web or Should Ubuntu promote 64-bit images by default?
 
Fsck is not pretty
 
jrg
Neither looks interesting.
 
4:01 PM
"Improved Lock Screen, User Switching"
 
or... cooking my broccoli :P
 
@jrg thanks for your tip, it saved me :)
 
jrg
@AmithKK what tip?
using gnu screen/byobu?
 
How is OneConf not interesting? Jeez!
 
4:02 PM
@jrg BusyBox
 
jrg
ah, that. :D
 
The ultimate error
 
isn't oneconf another cloud thing? :D
 
/ location not found
 
or just the conf backup
 
jrg
4:03 PM
@AmithKK yay for exit in busy box
"OneConf enables you to save and replicate some data in between all your computers like the list of installed applications and some settings. The goal is to enable your to continue your work between your workstation and your netbook, for instance, without having to do any complicated manipulation."
 
@jrg Yaayy
 
jrg
sounds perfect for me.
 
Wow
Im in
 
see, i don't think it's complicated manipulation. :D
 
Okay guys, I'm in a deep trouble, and I need fast help
There is a folder for Grub config files in /etc/grub.d/
 
jrg
4:05 PM
ok, what's up.
 
For some reason, after an update, I lost my "other OS" cfg file from there
now I can't boot Windows and I really have to get there. FAST
Can't find which package got the files...
 
jrg
boot into ubuntu.
 
if any of you could just zip that folder and upload it somewhere
or upload the "other" file into pastebin or something
 
jrg
well, it's not that simple...
 
it aint simple
 
jrg
4:06 PM
the way grub works, grub builds those files just for your computer
 
that would be a great help
 
but, i must ask, is windows installed on another hdd
 
Even in /etc/grub.d/?
 
@Shiki tried grub-install ?
 
It's on a different partition, but the partition didn't suffer any harm
did "grub-install" just now, Installation finished. The /etc/grub.d/ didn't change.
 
4:07 PM
@Shiki Ah, I have mine on another hdd, so if incase i break grub i can use the bios to go to that hdd
@Shiki Is it urgent?
 
@Shiki Just reboot.
 
@OctavianDamiean - But I checked /boot/grub/grub.cfg - no change there
@AmithKK - Yes, kinda
Well, usually, even on a virtual machine with ONLY Ubuntu installed, I have the config files there
 
Do you have os-prober installed?
 
jrg
these are the files for 11.10's version of grub - lts.cr/BEMN [tar.gz]
 
always check your broccoli for slugs. random tip, brought to you by yours truly.
 
4:10 PM
@jrg - Awesome, THANKS
 
jrg
you're welcome, good luck
 
root@shiki-ThinkPad-T500:/home/shiki# os-prober
/dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
OH
so what I did:
1) ran "os-prober" as root in my home folder
2) $ mv 06* /etc/grub.d/
3) $ update-grub
it seems an update removed the os-prober file or I don't know... weird.
 
jrg
did it work?
 
Yep, update-grub shows Windows now
Thanks guys, gonna reboot now.
 
Awesome!
 
4:13 PM
brb
 
I'll note this down into a txt. :D
 
@Explorer hi hi
 
@RolandTaylor She does not approve
@Explorer sudo roland.taylor>/usr/life/boyfriends.conf
 
-_
Amith sometimes if you have nothing useful to say, don't say anything at all...
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thanks :)
 
4:23 PM
Thanks for the help, back from Windows. (Btw I switched to ATI before I booted into Ubuntu, and it worked without problem ... I didn't even notice the change from Intel to ATI)
Maybe Linux graphic drivers really are getting better and better
 
jrg
@Shiki they are getting better!
 
:) maybe ;)
 
@RolandTaylor Ok
 
By the way your syntax is all wrong. It would be echo "something" >> /some/dir/somefile
 
@OctavianDamiean Ok
 
4:24 PM
No trolling or anything, when I last tried Ubuntu (or just Linux) with ATI , it was catastrophic. Well, the original ATI Catalyst installer still is. :D
 
@RolandTaylor hi
 
@AmithKK sorry if I seem angry :)
 
btw why there is no $$$ support for Ubuntu? Simple donation system I mean ?
 
@Shiki Indeed. That is the truth.
 
ati isn't known for working flawlessly with linux :P
 
4:24 PM
@Explorer what's up?
@Shiki there are too many developers to target with donation to a single source
 
Stack Exchange sucks in one aspect, we cannot say anything against the moderators.
 
Of course you can!
 
you can
 
The best thing to do is provide support where ever you can/see it is needed.
 
jrg
i've done some weird things, but having a chat via the bash prompt is new to me. :D
 
4:25 PM
@RolandTaylor - Well, Canonical could simply distribute as they use a software.
 
@RolandTaylor not much, since yesterday night 21:32
 
Go to Meta of given site and complain.
 
Like they rely on Gnome for example. And GTK. So they donate to those teams.
 
@Explorer well, we could.. if we want to get kicked :D
 
And so on, and so on. (Or hire developers and dedicate them to develop Gnome and GTK for example.)
I like Linux, but some business model would kick ass there.
 
jrg
4:26 PM
invest in canonical. ;)
 
Meh...
 
@Shiki it's FAR more complicated than that :)
 
@RolandTaylor that's the point
 
Single people can donate money. Even a few $ ... if we count the users....
 
@RolandTaylor No one gets kicked if it is legit and properly formulated.
 
4:27 PM
Take for instance the fact that Red Hat has the majority of GNOME/GTK developers - so essentially they hate/dislike/spit at Canonical :)
@OctavianDamiean yeah?
Okay then...
 
Yeah but Red Hat Linux is from the past. Always. :D
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Marco Ceppi has a funny profile picture.
Oli is about as green as a Martian.
:>
@Shiki unfortunately the past has a big effect on the present and future :)
 
Oli
Antigreenism won't be tolerated >_<
 
@OctavianDamiean That's the kind of bootlicking?
 
4:28 PM
LOL
 
@Explorer I don't boot-lick at all. I'm a long-time SE user and just know how things work.
 
:O the George!
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor next april fools, ask ubuntu should have "look like oli day", where we all have his profile picture. :P
 
@jrg deal :D
 
why wait? :D
11-11-11 - dress up as oli
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4:29 PM
@RolandTaylor - I know enterprise means OLD at the moment. (AND MEANT for Linux / OSS all along)
That's what I find sad. Gnome, and every OSS team could simply release stable, properly tested packages. If not by their own manpower, companies should back them.
 
Oli
11-11-11 at 11:11:11. Everybody dresses as Oli. For one second.
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jrg
@RolandTaylor Scratch that, 11-11-11. :D
 
@Shiki Canonical backs quite a few developers actually
@htorque do I get a free kitten?
 
yeah, but there is no way to support Canonical, or Ubuntu directly
 
only if you admit that red hat people don't hate canonical :P
 
4:31 PM
except if you are a developer and want to devote your life developing code
 
@Shiki yes there is
 
And what's that? Oo
 
There's an Ubuntu store
 
Oh good.
Ah no, the donation is good enough for me.
(Also, Canonical should do boxed releases like openSUSE)
(I never forget my first Linux OS, an openSUSE 7.1 ... still have the whole box and the s...load of CDs. :D)
 
4:33 PM
I shall promote this!
@Shiki there are CDs available for order :)
 
btw they hid the donation button ...
 
@RolandTaylor see? users even don't dare to star that perfect comment
 
@RolandTaylor - Yeah but those are simple CDs...
 
@Explorer I won't sweat it :)
 
Good ol' days when I could request Ubuntu and Kubuntu discs... ^^"
 
4:36 PM
Why should Ubuntu be sold in Boxes :D?
 
jrg
I'd buy the box set of Ubuntu.
 
Oli
Because bottles don't make sense.
 
How is everyone doing today?
 
To ship the CDs with a T-Shirt.
 
@GeorgeEdison great :)
 
jrg
4:37 PM
Desktop CDs for 32 and 64, then the DVDs for desktop, the alternative installers, the entire *buntu family, etc.
 
They still ship free CDs, right?
 
I want a free pangolin with my next Ubuntu install.
I have an ant problem.
 
jrg
LoCos can request them
outside of that, no
 
@RolandTaylor - Because it LOOKS awesome. You can have a boxed OS at the top of the shelf. Also, there is a manual in boxed package, which is awesome for beginners.
 
Approved LoCos!
 
4:38 PM
@AmithKK that was a nice comment ;) how are you today?
 
:O
don't encourage him XD!
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en.opensuse.org/Buy_openSUSE < Look at that beast
 
Okay... we are getting excited over boxes. I need to start drinking coffee or something.
 
jrg
As I said before, I'd buy a Ubuntu box set.
 
Same here, especially if it would come with a T-Shirt inside. :D
 
4:43 PM
an Ubuntu box set?
 
:D
 
@Explorer I'm sorry but, I'm in love with a box. Her name is OpenSUSE, and she's green.
 
@OctavianDamiean @Shiki I picked up a WHOLE stack of Ubuntu Server and Desktop CDs
 
@RolandTaylor - :(
 
jrg
4:44 PM
Just has to include the entire *Buntu family (server, desktop alternative etc) complete with DVDs, CDs, and a t-shirt. :P
 
@MarcoCeppi Awesome.
 
I'd pay for that.
 
@RolandTaylor why sorry? as far as you share same thoughts and other things, it's a great option, wish you and her the best
 
@Explorer XD
 
suse? don't know anyone that uses that. :P
 
4:45 PM
my box understands me - there is nothing to understand XD
 
@htorque Its developers?
 
Seriously, if Canonical would distribute it as a box, with things you mentioned jrg ... A lot of people would buy it
Like... you walk into a 'computer shop'... you see the box. Damn what is that?
 
Indeed.
 
@OctavianDamiean they secretly use ubuntu.
 
"Oh its an operating system like Windows"... and there would be a nice description at the back...
 
jrg
4:46 PM
definitely.
 
@RolandTaylor I bet your parents will love her
 
Don't forget to make the box furry and have big puppy eyes.
 
"oh it's cool. here are 10 bucks." later: "damn, why doesn't my broadcom wireless card work!?" :D
 
"A box."
"OMG! I HAVE TO HAVE IT!"
"Yep, it's a a box alright."
"*faint*"
"Um..."
 
Yeah people love boxes.
(Minecraft < Boxes. What else have to be said?)
 
4:47 PM
I like blue boxes
 
Windows + classic theme?
 
My last box was a cuboid... but we broke up when she dated a guy who was into cubes.
:)
 
Okay everyone, here's your chance to help with FlackBot:
 
@Shiki D: no!
 
Just enter some sample questions please :)
Remember, we want FlackBot to offer information not useless conversation.
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(We want people to actually use him for a useful purpose.)
Watching people edit a shared Google Doc is fun!
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4:53 PM
:)
Sad thing we can't name ourselves
 
Desktop boot speed Desktop boot speed Desktop boot speed → antigua2, in two hours.
 
btw @GeorgeEdison you should invite us by email so people won't spam :D
 
jrg
dangit, i just screwed it all up. :P
 
@Explorer will you take me back? My box left me :'(
 
@Shiki Yeah.
 
4:55 PM
Make sure to stick around for the lightning talks I plan on doing two. One for Ask Ubuntu and one for Charms
 
@GeorgeEdison - shiki.biomernok@gmail.com (others: send me spam?)
 
the silly guy is not me
who ever it is that accused...
 
@RolandTaylor What's your Gmail?
 
rolandixor at geemale dot kom
 
@RolandTaylor Done.
 
4:59 PM
ty
 

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