Game Development

Ali.S

00:18

I'm looking for short thunder/lightening effects, without rain, which are usable for commercial products

Jon

@Pip da fuck you been under a rock

that hololens dev kit price was announced like 5 days ago

Jon

00:41

Ali.S

@Jon so you are learning to draw?

Jon

yep

requestS?

Ali.S

nope just checking

Jon

ok bye

Pip

00:57

@Jon :P

user4704

03:18

@Pip Yes, what about them?

Moses Aprico

04:18

sup guys

i have a problem

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Q: Good practice in implementing multi sprite (as skins) in 2d unity game

so, I want to make such functionality in my 2d game with unity : Multi skin character, with similar control and functionality, and with possible different gimmicks (such as crossy road's characters, which some modify game environment and / or have unique death animation, yet THEY CAN ON...

if you can help, then i'll really appreciate that

:)

user92578

06:37

10- from math!!! IM SO HAPPY AND RELIEVED

MickLH

07:11

Datsik - Scum

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Everybody can use a little duke nukem dubstep in their life

Kevin van der Velden

07:51

Morning chat

Lokkij

Morning Kevin

Martin Sojka

Morning.

So I was on the "Spiel!" on Saturday, checking out all the cool new board games and whatnot, especially kid's games since I'll have three new nephews by the end of the year (one is already here).

In case one of you wants inspiration for a very well done puzzle game for young kids, here's a company I talked with: smartgames.eu

I had the chance to play a bit, and their games are well-crafted.

(... or if you're just looking for something for Christmas for the youngest members for your family).

(For the record, I have no financial ties whatsoever with that company, I just met them two day ago on the exhibition)

user92578

Good morningdaynight guys

Kevin van der Velden

\o

user92578

I now have a two hour break and then one last exam returning

Lokkij

10:04

One of Wikipedia's features articles today is about a man who just was really hungry. Really, really hungry.

> While stationed near Paris, he was recorded as having eaten 174 cats in a year, and although he disliked vegetables, he would eat 4 to 5 pounds (1.8 to 2.3 kg) of grass each day if he could not find other food.

Kevin van der Velden

10:31

That's... a lot of food

Pip

12:18

yeah it is

@Wardy @Ali.S yeah, letter. It's 8.5 inches by 11 inches

user92578

Should I prefer writing two separate asserts instead of one with an && statement?

Kevin van der Velden

Two separate has the advantage that, on error, you immediately see which one triggered

Blue

12:37

tips hat

Kevin van der Velden

o/

user92578

13:19

hii

Pip

tips hat

Sup Blue

user92578

I wish WinAPI was wrapped in a namespace...

user92578

Cluttering up Intellisense complection boxes

user92578

I also wish WinAPI didn't suck so hard

user92578

if(SUCCEEDED(res))

user92578

13:25

There's FIVE levels of nested IFs like that in my code for filedialogs

Martin Sojka

try { doStuff(); doMoreStuff(); doOtherStuff(); } catch ( EveryExceptionImaginable ex ) { report("Stuff broke. Too bad."); } finally { cleanupAfterYourself(); }

user92578

That looks dirty I think

Martin Sojka

It's how I deal with if (resource1Allocated()) { if (resource2Allocated())) { if (moreResourcesAllocated()) { ... } } } chains.

That, or the Null Object pattern.

user92578

I guess the issue here is that cleanup() has to do specific stuff based on how far I got

Martin Sojka

Yeah, it typically looks like if (null != res2) { cleanupRes2(); } if (null != res1) { cleanupRes1(); } and so on.

user92578

13:52

Hmm one day I'm going to have to start Linuxproofing the codebase

user92578

14:05

E_INVALIDARG One or more arguments are invalid.

user92578

thanks for letting me know which one...

Blue

14:17

Sup @Pip. How's it goin?

Pip

Pretty good

Not done a whole lot of game dev recently

mostly school and robotics

Blue

School going well?

Pip

yep!

Blue

That's good to hear, man.

MickLH

so it happened again... i had a novel idea and now half my engine is obsolete and needs re-writing again

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

14:35

Time to reset the "Time since last game breaking idea" counter.

MickLH

but its totally worth it, it finally patches together a few rough spots properly

user92578

How do I specify a string with two forward slashes in C++?

MickLH

and a ton of nice things like being able to render the entire scene with dynamic LOD in one draw call, and get accurate continuous collision detection almost for free

though, it's mutually exclusive with ideas like animations or bones

(of course you can still implement both, and actually it makes it much easier to mix animations with ragdolls on a per-limb basis)

The only downside to it all besides having to toss a lot of perfectly fine code... is that I'll need offline content processors and some kind of object builder and map builder tools

user92578

14:57

"\\"

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Tyyppi_77 Aren't those backwards?

user92578

Oh right

user92578

Look at the star board

user92578

I mean backwards

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

"\\\\" then? :P

user92578

15:00

Naw, it's just "\\"

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Doesn't the first escape the second?

user92578

Apparently not

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

That's ... weird. :P

user92578

Yeah, but my string replace function works fine

Kevin van der Velden

@William'MindWorX'Mariager no? That's how every language ever works

user92578

15:01

Anyways I'll hit the sauna now

Kevin van der Velden

First \: Escape the next character, second \: output an actual \ character

I mean, I suppose there are a few languages with different escape characters but that's not the point

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@KevinvanderVelden It's not how C# works :P

user92578

I'm confused

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

"\\" would only print one \

Kevin van der Velden

@William'MindWorX'Mariager yes

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

15:02

You'd need to do "\\\\" to print two.

Which is what he asked for :P

MickLH

thats how C++ works too

Kevin van der Velden

Oh 2

Yeah nevermind

user92578

Yeah

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@KevinvanderVelden <3

user92578

But two work fine

Kevin van der Velden

15:03

Okay @Tyyppi_77: that's how every language works

user92578

It's not for printing tough, just for a simple replaceAll function

MickLH

probably because of your buggy code lol

Kevin van der Velden

Irrelevant, string literal is string literal

user92578

Weird

Kevin van der Velden

Output in said context defined as "Output it to the string literal"

user92578

15:03

Why the fuck does two slashes work then?

MickLH

lol

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

The replaceAll function replaces all? :P

So you input one \ and it replaces all \'s :P

user92578

No I call it path.ReplaceAll("/", "\\")

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 because \ is the escape character

\0 is "output a byte with the value 0", \n is "output the newline character", \r is carriage return

\\ is \

user92578

Yeah, but "Custom/Path/Here".ReplaceAll("/", "\\") => "Custom\\Path\\Here"

Kevin van der Velden

15:06

Where?

user92578

In my code

Kevin van der Velden

Did you print it out or in the visual studio debugger?

user92578

debugger I guess

Kevin van der Velden

The visual studio debugger is helpful and let's you copy it in a method that would give the same string

MickLH

place bets now, is he just seeing an escaped version of the string, or is the code buggy, aww nvm lol betting over

Kevin van der Velden

15:06

i.e. it escaped the \ for you because otherwise you'd get \P

user92578

ah, so that explains it then

user92578

Thanks

user92578

cya guys

MickLH

being limited in typing speed by my phone feels shitty

Lasse

being limited in thinking speed by my brain feels shitty

MickLH

15:09

ikr

I'm still in bed dreading my medications because I woke up with a clear mind today

Noctrine

Well looks like I missed something fun.

Kevin van der Velden

Talking about yesterday? =p

It's not often that after hearing someones arguments for their actions I flip from being in support to them to being opposed to them, but it happened

Martin Sojka

Ow, I missed some drama. Too bad.

Lasse

Don't you worry guys, there seems to be almost always some drama in here

Jon

Kevin van der Velden

15:18

That's pretty nice!

Jon

Those are my daily sketches, enjoy

Lasse

I wish I could draw

would make producing programmer art easier

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

15:35

Just a matter of doing it. It's a skill that can be trained like everything else :P

It's just harder for people like us :P

MickLH

so im guessing nobody wants to write a shitload of C++ for me?

Lasse

there's something wrong with my brain, I went to an art course and I learned nothing in a year

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Did you apply yourself? :P

Lasse

well, I was young and my parents asked me if I wanted to go

I didn't want to any more after the year

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I used to think there were skills that were out of my realm. But after being forced to be creative as a Game Master, I found out I could learn to make engaging stories.

MickLH

15:36

it could just be that art courses must be taught by artists, and artists are hit and miss

and sketchy, and on drugs

Pip

@William'MindWorX'Mariager speaking of GM... what game?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Pip I used to GM Dungeons and Dragons, but for the past few years we use my own homebrew. :)

Pip

cool

I'm trying to get a D&D 4.0 game together atm, looking for tips. Got any?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I just started running a game of D&D 5 though. To try it out.

@Pip Power Cards, they'll make life much simpler for new players.

Pip

How is it? I've heard mixed reactions to 5E

Power cards.... alright, I'll look into those

MickLH

15:38

I've never finished a game of D&D because I always made the GM ragequit

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Keep combat simple at first. Ignore most of the rules at first and then start to include them as you get more familiar. It'll hurt balance, but it's not too bad, and it sure beats grinding the game to a halt.

I'd suggest giving players some leeway with deciding their actions at first, but after a while, you should really encourage them to decide beforehand.

Pip

oh cool power cards look awesome

Thanks!

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Yeah, they're god sent.

Martin Sojka

In case nobody bothered to look up earlier, I had the pleasure to check out the games by Smart Games on this year's Spiel!, and they are awesome - especially those for kids. Totally consider them for Christmas presents if you have very young family members, or as inspiration if you want to make a puzzle game.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Also, goblins, kobolds, skeletons and zombies have some nice beginner opponents.

Pip

15:40

opens Google Drive to write this down

good info :D

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Hmm, what else... traps are nice, and are found in the dungeon masters guide.

Treasure parcels help with some loot incase you don't have anything planned, and most people tend to love the randomness :P

Pip

Awesome

I have to grab a DM guide, only have the player stuff for 4E

MickLH

I had a teacher who played DnD very seriously, sometimes with students. I invented the name BazzleFazzle for him after learning this.

After a couple months of referring to him this way, he decided to have a sit-down talk with me about taking class more seriously. He picked the only one day I came to class on acid..

Pip

lol

MickLH

I'll never forget the uh.. distorted fragments here and there, of that?

Long story short, he failed the shit out of me but could not withold my state certifications since I met all the course requirements lol

For the record, and to finalize the topic, I was respectful even while being playful, I always said his nickname as if it were an informal title for a desirable person... and I did actually learn the bits about structural engineering that I didn't know already by the end of the course.

But now, it's 9am and I guess I have to force myself to get out of bed and write more C++ than anyone wants to

Pip

16:06

mhm

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

16:17

If you're simply planning on doing some dungeon crawling, finding some online maze generators is great too

Especially if they contain a few tidbits about the rooms they generate

Noctrine

17:19

Alrighty, caught up.

Kevin van der Velden

With the review cue? =p

45 close votes, more 3k+ people need to vote =[

Noctrine

No, not that one yet. The chat history.

I wonder if there is anyone on the 3k edge.

Kevin van der Velden

I'm at 2k =[

Noctrine

:| Why 2k~

Kevin van der Velden

2019

To be precise

I dunno

I don't ask stuff cause I can google

Noctrine

17:35

What's your best answer?

Kevin van der Velden

And I don't see that many things I can answer because I don't use unity or the other popular stuff

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A: How could I implement something like Minecraft's crafting grid?

You have to remember that Minecraft only uses a very small set of possible recipes, so there is no need for anything all that smart. That said what I would do is find the smallest grid that fits (i.e. ignore empty rows and columns to find out if it's a 2x2 or 3x3, or 2x3 (door)). Then loop throu...

Highest voted

Noctrine

Which do you think is best though?

Kevin van der Velden

(I also like that my best tag on both gaming and gamedev is minecraft)

Uh, hmm

That one is pretty good, gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/87883/… might be better I think

Noctrine

Woo, 2 new 3k users.

Kevin van der Velden

Now to see if they'll actually vote =p

Noctrine

17:47

I'm almost at 3k so I should probably start giving out some good answer, or "take out this question" bounties.

But we're coming up on our winter refactor again soon.

Pip

>:D

Hopefully getting to 1500 during the winter refactor

Jon

sup mah nerds

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

... your nerds?

I'm pretty sure I'm @Tyyppi_77's nerd.

Kevin van der Velden

There we go, not actually gaming anymore

Now on to... other stuff

Maybe more games! Maybe finally updating my resume and sending it out

Let's do the adult thing

Pip

@KevinvanderVelden you mean more games, right. Because that's obviously the adult thing to do here.

Kevin van der Velden

17:58

Alas it is not, given that I want a new job with more free time for games(dev)

Pip

What's your current job desc?

Kevin van der Velden

Programmer

C#/ASP.NET/SQL/bash scripts-only-I-use-but-save-so-much-time

The latter meaning that there are several tasks that only I ever do

Pip

ah I see

Wardy

18:23

Process, Pipeline, Performance: A Super Blunt Tech Art Direction Crash Course For Indies

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Pip

@William'MindWorX'Mariager can you recommend a good first-level premade campaign? A few of us have played before (myself included) but I definitely want to start out the group with something that's already been put together.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Pip I never played any 4E premades, sorry :(

Pip

3.5 seems like what we're been playing actually. The others have experience with 3.5 so that's what we're going with.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Ohh

Very different game :P

Power Cards are useless :P

Pip

Yeah, I found that out :P

Lokkij

19:25

D&D eh?

I found the game great fun, but only because the social experience was amazing and not because the rules were any good.

We're going to try Apocalyspe World soon; it seems to be much less gamey.

It also has a very well-written manual, especially the part for the GM. Also very nice 'class' descriptions:

> Even in the filth of Apocalypse World, there’s food that isn’t death on a spit, music that isn’t shrieking hyenas, thoughts that aren’t afraid, bodies that aren’t used meat, sex that isn’t rutting, dancing that’s real. There are moments that are more than stench, smoke, rage and blood.

Anything beautiful left in this ugly ass world, skinners hold it. Will they share it with you? What do *you* offer *them*?

Pip

19:43

@Lokkij That's exactly why my dad has kept playing for like 15 years with the same group, even after the group has spread out all over North America

They originally started all working together at a company in Pennsylvania (fairly north, east coast).

Now, people are in western Canada, Seattle, Pennsylvania, and here near Washington, DC

And they still play every week or so

Using a website called Roll20

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Depending on what game they're playing, you should recommend Fantasy Grounds. I prefer it whenever possible.

Jon

19:59

wish star wars battlefront was cheaper

cuz the beta is pretty good

if they only have those 7 scenes in the full version though... not enough content

next monday is ELECTION DAY !!!!

Our bigot tyrant corporate spokesperson is HOPEFULLY going to end his career

Almo

21:07

@Pip and why do you think I'm interested? You know I dislike microsoft. :)

Jon

main reason to hate microsoft right now, is that they are making halo 5 xbone exclusive

game like that needs to be played on the PC

Almo

heh

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