en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spy_Hunter ?

@Almo your idea of friction??

I have a master's degree in physics

I don't

so to me, friction is the force that results when two touching objects move relative to each other.

I don't, but I know friction is velocity dependent

What's physics.

check out my car game

jgallant.com/carbuild/carbuild.html

higher the speed , lesser the friction?

Hell no

I feel like it jolts

not slides

friction*$(*@#&$ is related to the square of velocity

?

how?

I.e., the friction = velocity^2

speed is just the magnitude of the velocity vector

and if I tap forward and hold left

velocity is a vector

I never loose velocity

My bad

@Almo wrong word =p

oh hahah :)

What do you mean, "How?" <mean comments here>

<snarky comment>

Speed is related to the square of velocity, because it is the square root of it ;)

Heh true enough =p

I meant how is friction = velocity^2

ohh

@Sword @Almo gave you a good enough answer

Hence the "wrong word" bit

And me editing it

Friction makes my weiner happy

I used the wrong autocomplete lmao

hahah ;)

@Sword by... measuring it? That's the rough equation

For reality

Or is that only for air resistance? @Almo would know!

@Sword and don't get me wrong, normally I am all for being against religious answers

I just used it casually.. that is a bad approach , I know..

religious??

It's just "known" to be correct

But in this case, if you don't know where to start proving against it.... Trust the masters degree lol

@MickLH where "known" is defined as shown to be correct in multiple measurements, explained via many theories and, you know, the regular scientific rigor thing?

Not to him

All of you know a lot more than me , I wouldn't argue with any of you ; rather I am asking why is it so and how.. because I may not know the actual reason.. :)

I need to make sure you're carefully trained before it's my turn to help lol, these guys are nicer than me

Yeah, be afraid of @MickLH

He's scary

=p

Learning. As Almo mentioned that I was doing it wrong ,I asked for the right way..

yeah I'm already scared ;_;

god damnit

well, I said "if you want 'realistic' friction" it's wrong

you may not actually want "realistic" friction.

he doesn't want realistic friction

he is applying it to the BG and not the car

if what you have gives gameplay you like, then it's right.

Yeah, my advice: Model the car moving, not the background

@Sword you were supposed to take it as a joke and decide I must be light hearted and harmless

shit that time already

@KevinvanderVelden he's right on this

you model the car moving, then adjust the background for where the car went.

well it looked good ecxcept for the timeshift; it seems to render so slow and I make it super fast but there;s something weird that happens..

Because everything you'll find and experience will be related to modeling the car, and having to invert all the logic is just gonna make your head hurt

Yeah.. you need to mvoe the BG based on the car

not the other way around

And the y coordinate of the car is fixed

it can only go left or right..

@MickLH you are scaring me now..

I didn't want to resort to this...

No, it can go any way, the camera is just always centered on it

(In the Y axis at least)

I now officially blame all of you guys, I could have been easier for him if you all just permalinked kevin's original message.

@KevinvanderVelden yes

well, the 'yes' was for Kevin

I know

That's why "see" was able to convey the joke by itself

@Sword trust me, speaking from experience, model the car moving, get that working, then you can just say at render time "I am rendering the car.y at the center of the screen, and the background at negative car.y"

No need to worry about it being faster than other sprites and such

And you can just model the velocity of the car as one thing, rather than being hidden in the position of the background and the horizontal position of the car

well, don't move the car on the Y axis

Just use the Car's velocity as the catalyst to move the BG

@Jon yes , that was what I was doing. The background velocity was actually the velocity of the car..

sounds good to me

But both of you differ in opinion..

You can do it either way

I chose to keep an axis value constant to reduce complexities..

Well that failed

moving the car will requrie you to move your BGs around as the car moves

yes that happens..

Try solving the problem in a way that isn't ridiculously over-complicated. Like maybe reasoning about the problem itself.

the only problem was the wrong unit being used..Updating at the wrong intervals of time..

Usually adding extra complexity doesn't help you reach minimum complexity. FYI.

very similar game that I did -- BG moves based on the char falling

that link is empty @Jon

i can give you the movement code

the one u posted a few mins back

@Tyyppi_77 !

@Jon you created this one??

@Tyyppi_77 what does gun hero look like today

this is a game i made for my son in 8 hours :)

my own gamejam

@Jon yeah sure , would be grateful :)

trying to find it for you

@Jon awesome.. Looks fun; but a body rip for a 3yr old??

well he was 6 at the time of playing

and he loved it

:D

frikken lazers

baller I love always seeing something new

@Tyyppi_77 an MP5??

@Tyyppi_77 damn, keeps looking better

Though yeah, those are definitely better suited to be LAZERS

(I thought they were laz0rs too)

brb in 15 mins..

Maybe a bit less tracing to make them look more like bullets?

And then another gun with a bit more tracing for lasers

@Tyyppi_77 aah probably, the difficulty with screenshots

AAAH I WANNA GO HOME AND GAMEDEV

I HAVE IDEAS AND THEY WANT OUT OF MY HEAD AND IN TO CODE

@Sword can't find the code... I think its on my other laptop

meh, i'll get it

@Tyyppi_77 yeah, they look like bullets at first glance now

Though maybe a bit more orangy?

i'm actually excited to play this @Tyyppi_77

PLugged in laptop -- turned it on -- came out of hybernation and says "Shutting Down"

Noooooo

:D

@Tyyppi_77 Aah that makes sense, red it is!

red == dead, yellow == mellow

yep, its good

WTF

23667 update operations

Applying update 309 of 23667 update operations.. on my laptop

lol

@Tyyppi_77 heck yeah, the game looks awesome!

@Tyyppi_77 No

I was gonna get all lovey dovey, but you gave me an excuse to get hardass again

@Tyyppi_77 Don't do this. Schools don't like being hacked. They don't like it a lot.

@Tyyppi_77 do not do this

I've never been allowed to stay at a school after I hacked it. Even if I did nothing but gain entrance and leave.

@Tyyppi_77 Then enter the contest, do not fuck with your exam anything

lolk

when i was in HS, I knew more about computers than our computer teacher

was pretty easy to hack the school networks back then... probably still is nowadays

Oh well if you just steal a copy and take it home then you're probably safe

But if it has the exams on it already then you better keep that shit quiet

And clean up any loose ends if anyone sees you do it

winbeta.org/news/…

LOL -- Change the name, problem solved.

@Tyyppi_77 good luck

@Jon fluff article?

> Although the company is killing the Internet Explorer brand, it will not go away completely.

wtf

Yeah the article is shit

They are simply changing the name

but the article makes it sound like it is a new product, which is bull

But the bull microsoft wants people to believe

But that is what Microsoft wants people to think.

article name change... "some bullshit to get you to click this"

@Joe Too accurate, you removed the bullshit ironically

I see link bait like that on FB all the time. "You will never believe what this father of 2 did to overcome his diarrhea."

lololol

instead of "Man overcomes diarrhea by eating cheese"

bad example, but I am just a programmer

"one crazy trick the doctors dont want you to know... eat vegetables"

"I started with 3lbs of carrots, and didn't see any results.. so I went up to 5lbs"

"after the cancer was gone, he stopped eating carrots, and his skin color returned to normal"

now people with cancer are gonna go out and buy 100lbs of carrots

lol

and this stuff WORKS because people... oof im going to stop there... I swear idiocracy is happening while we watch

yes, feel the dark side

amazon.com/Curing-Cancer-Carrots-Ann-Cameron-ebook/dp/…

By Ann Cameron -- profiting off of her cancer cure.

Pretty obvious what is going on here... Ann is a carrot farmer.

if she wasnt

she is now, trading on those carrot futures on "the forex" lol

It is easy to make money off smoeone dying of cancer.

pretty sure this is exactly what is going on here.

@Jon no problem; thankful that you bothered to spend your precious time on searching some stuff for me.. :)

oh yeah.. my laptop is on now.. hold on

@Sword You pissed me off but it's not your fault and I'd like to take a stab at friendship some better time.

you need to nurture the noobs

unless they are dickheads

Sword doesn't seem like a dickhead

I don't think so either

Now will someone tell me how to create a jelly physics editor in unity? or am i gonna have to insult everyone in this room?

What does jelly physics editor mean?

Its pretty clear what I am asking, are you stupid?

damnit I was typing the typo version already

lol

there was a guy yesterday asking about jelli physics or something

was being super rude about it

@Jon No, and no.

tee hee

@MickLH I think that you assume me to be a help vampire or something , but to tell you - I don't expect any ready-made code for myself . Just to tell you - I dont work under anyone , I am independent and this thing is what I want to do in my career . I just did s course in coursera for gaming ; thats it . I have no prior experience in Java and I started last mont . Last week I started coding and I was doing all stuffs myself ;

just came here for ideas and advice on best approaches. If you load to my first message, I dint ping anyone for help, because I know everyone has work to do...

Lol I know, I was serious saying it's not your fault

I'd have to dig up an article with specifics but there are some major changes between Project Spartan and IE

Question: Do help vampires sparkle?

The browser on the whole is supposed to be significantly more light weight

I don't know why that popped in my head

But I felt the need to share

@KevinvanderVelden damn right they sparkle like the crappy kind of vampire that they are, and you find them in barnes and noble in the "teenage romance fantasy" aisle

@KevinvanderVelden sparkle as in?

@Sword twilight

@Joe aight, just so that's clear

@MickLH I even checked this <--[link here]before asking here.. But I did not understand that..

woah dude woah

@Sword its ok man ... the council has spoken we agree your good... FOR NOW, dont screw up :D

@Sword looking at my code -- I position the camera based on the velocity of my character -- using Lerp functions and other things

Probably not very useful for you -- I could probably write up a demo pretty fast for this

@Sword Don't try to invoke empathy on me, you're wasting your time. @KevinvanderVelden was not joking you should be afraid of me lol

I also move my character and backgrounds at the same time

totally different implementation :)

@Tyyppi_77 WELL FINE

@Jon I did not go for the camera because the camera is static ; the only objects that would appear to move would be the other cars.. their velocity would be relative..

the enemycars velocity was easy ; just assign a specific value - Bg.getVelocity();

@MickLH i'm okay now.. you can joke around with me ; I thought you were serious at the beginning..

Once you get past my unorthodox emotional interface, it's actually easy to work with me.

I prefer to be paid in the glory of success, if I see you putting my ideas to use I'll keep feeding them to you

@MickLH yes sure; I respect your ideas :)

I'm glad you can socially learn where I appear to stand with this crowd, but you don't have to stroke my ego at all

if you do stroke it, be very aggressive, its what he likes

(I didn't say no?)

@Sword But seriously if you have math questions that's what I love most I think

take a look at this : This was our final assignment in the course @MickLH

@Jon I'll try it with Vector2 first as you mentioned above .. I think that should work ..

yes it should

code you pasted above crashed when I hit an asteroid

Line 168: undefined: [Exception... "Failure" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: codeskulptor.org/skulpt/skulpt.min.js line 758 > eval :: $builtinmodule/sound/$loc.play< :: line 140"

if i was your teacher, i'd give you a big fat F

shakes fist wildly

@Sword I had fun playing it, but I got to I think score 75 so I had to up the ante

I increased spawn rate to 10 per second instead of 1

And increased velocity to +/- 3 instead of 0.3

@MickLH someone created an advanced version.. Let me link that here..

codeskulptor.org/#user33_XCuzRIZZMYZcq0e.py

@Tyyppi_77 dynamic cast gives you another pointer to the same object, or null, never allocates

@Tyyppi_77 I want to see how you're using dynamic cast, if you don't mind

@Tyyppi_77 so you know for sure that m_TargetEntity is a CEntityPrisoner ?

I think you can use static_cast but I'm not sure

dynamic_cast<> invokes RTTI

but the way you're using it, if the RTTI actually causes anything different to happen from static_cast<> it'll crash anyways

but I'm not sure if the compiler will figure out the polymorphism like that

god I hate C++ so much these days

like everything I get close to

If I know for sure it's the correct type, I'd also use a static_cast..

Lol yeah... dem pointers doe

Naw son not the same

Java and c# use pointer, the language just manage it for you..

The art of parsing strings using a horrendously ugly char* is dying

Oh, derp

C++ rubs in my face that C is gone

while (*s && !isspace(*s)) *d++ = *s++;

just a random snippet lol, it copies a word until it reaches whitespace

aborts if it hits the end of the string

assumes *d has enough space :P

I really do like the future, and I want us to have nice things

But I miss that

lol last second edit

but it's way less robust now, it only works with space character instead of any whitespace character

Shitshithit. I was too greedy again. Shit. My super promising character is going to die. :(

and the constant factor is doubled on the Big O

@MickLH less row-bust?

@Lokkij oh no!

@Almo Did I tell you I'm stealing that?

you did tell me that

I'm calling my OODB engine RowBuster

then you didn't use it there

oh lol

:)

I'll give you credit for the name

heh ok thanks :)

Me in my final moments. Poisoned, out of breath, and with 2 HP/

he lives!

Holy shit!

Surprisingly, being banished to the abyss saved my life.

Also the decision to carry around that ring of poison resistance just in case.

:)

I dodges so many lethal attacks in those few turns.

:)

"hellephant" hahahah

Yeah :P

Now to find a way out.. the abyss is a pretty deadly place as well.

@Tyyppi_77 d += s.substr(0, s.find_first_of(" \t\n"));

@SpartanDonut, or anybody else for that matter do any CI? or Jenkins? with your .Net?

That task bothered me to read the manual about it again, had to share :P

but it still has double constant factor

and you have to save that offset somewhere, and jank around with it later (Instead of leaving s at the end of the word)

not me

@Tyyppi_77 ya not religiously but its on my radar

fast sturdy extendable text editor

sublime 3? or 2

but from what i know... after you install a package with package control its supposed to pop up the readme

if your sublime is continuously trying to install something that sounds odd, a plugin could be busted

i might try package control: remove package then install package again

lol that's their fault, everybody knows that only big red flashing text needs to be considered

@Joe I don't think so. Technically I've dealt with automated builds / build servers but I don't know if it qualifies as CI

well ignoring CI, was it automation for C# / .Net stuff?

trying to see if this is worth playing with, where to start

@Sword I funneled all the exasperation and rage you so generously provided me on accident into this: drive.google.com/file/d/0BxOUlWYj0c6tOEtMWTU5bUIxNW8/view

Shit. Now I actually died. :(

@Joe it was just a build server that built / deployed the project (web site) every time it was checked into TFS

> Lokkij, Level 20 DrFi, blasted by a hellephant.

You'll probably get the most benefit if you have multiple team members and don't want to risk breaking builds, or if you have multiple platforms you want to target and your build servers / CI / whatever make sure builds don't break on other platforms

But having not done any of that before really I'm just pulling that out of my ass and someone should correct me if they know better :)

work is jumping on CI train pretty hard soon, never having touched it I wanted to see if i cant "Play" with some before we get there

thats all sounds like a bunch of awesome stuff

I think a big part of CI is automated testing as well so if you are already doing TDD I think CI being added should be more or less transparent to you

And I wouldn't worry about it

not worried interested!

YES