Twitch.tv is a website where anyone can sign up and stream video game related content. Usually its people playing games whether it be simple lets play scenarios, hardcore speed running (this is where my interest lies), or competetive gaming tournaments. Sometimes its people talking about games, usually the "meta" of a game such as StarCraft 2 or LoL

And apparently some people play DnD over the internet and stream that

holy shit

the homeland of powerplayers

yup

:)

(just learning these tools to edite chat lines)

I would stream them, but I can't until I get the Black Cylinder. Though my net connection may still limit my ability to do that.

speedrunslive.com is a great place to find speedrunners currently playing, pretty much all (if not all) are using Twitch to stream

I'd stream if I had better internet

dota can be proud to be the root of a great legacy

but nowadays I could puke playing it

well, I played dota when it had no competitors then passed to HoN when it became interesting and now LoL has no alternatives. Dota 2 was a bit of a failure

I think numbers are supporting what I mean

DotA 2 is really an update of the old mod while LoL is a refinement. I'm anxious to see what Blizzard's comes out like. And that's all I have to say about that.

My eve corp actually killed some mercs who were fighting us.

what is blizzard planning to do?

Heroes of the Storm

their DotA game

holy

yeah, it might be

heroes of the storm!?

I think so

like super smash bros brothers dota version

so yeah it's HotS just like Heart of the Swarm

I'm curious to see if Strife takes off. Looks like a step in the right direction, coming from a perspective of I appreciated LoL but had many things I didn't necessarily like about it.

guys, what does mean that a game is sustained by microtransactions? means that it is free but you can purchase soomething like cosmetics?

It means that the continued development of the game is supported by microtransactions. Small purchases of any variety that accumulate to a larger sum. It is often implemented via cosmetic changes, experience or cash bonuses, and others.

Pretty much. That would be a freemium model.

okay! thank you

well, that Strife looks interesting

is it still in closed beta?

you've added a comment with little value?

@Leggy7 Could be more than cosmetic. Could be pay-to-win like this one: starpirates.net/register.php?referer=10057

I play that (not entirely sure why)

But the whales seem to spend tens of thousands of dollars buying stats.

The players there are really nice though.

Even though it's a PvP game at heart.

well yeah

pay-to-win means that you can have access to better stuff?

like being a premium user, uh?

well

in SP, if you subscribe for $4.50 a month you recharge energy faster and stuff

but you can buy Points, which you can spend for instant recharges

you can buy AICBs to recharge research, which you spend in conjunction with energy to increase your base stats.

I don't like pay-to-win

so frustrating

Btw, @Almo, my friends played Pandemic last monday. :D

you can burn through a $30 point pack in a few minute searching for gear.

They really like it.

they should be called pay-to-play

glad to hear it :)

but you can play Star Pirates quite a lot without paying anything.

cuz it is rally frustrating to play as free user

yeah

but you won't beat any of the top players that way.

having a lot of fun against who recharges energy faster

SP is a matter of choosing goals you can accept and working toward those.

it works very well actually

has been running over 5 years

one of the main devs has a degree in economics

so he's done very well at keeping the economy working well

yeah

definetly not my kind of game

Personally, I'd never make a pay-to-win game. I'd allow people to pay for vanity stuff.

But not for balance changing stuff.

That would be my approach

same here

LoL works like that for the most part.

Runes change balance, but it doesn't take long to get all you need, and they can be bought for ingame points

I mean, a game like Gunbound is completely horribly to play if you don't pay for the good weapons.

they can be bought ONLY via ingame points

that's nice of riot

oh yeah you're right

very smart :)

Rune PAGES on the other hand...

at least no fuking twinks at low levels :)

also they let you use the same rune on multiple pages

very nice.

there are only good guys from riot's :)

They are very player-centric in their design philosophy

@Leggy7: There are definitely low-level twinks... although the NA servers call them "smurfs".

they fuck up the matchmaking algo >:(

ahah, yeah they are called the same on euw

strife developers are the same of hon!?!?

yes

they are trying to aim better?

why a second MOBA project?

it's their expertise. why not?

I expect Riot's next game will be another MOBA.

knowing them, they've probably been working on it for a couple years already without saying a word about it

supposedly they're working on replays, but want to do it right and it's taking a while so they haven't said anything about it.

same for the mac client

that was in the works for a long time before they said antyhing

MOBA

Another thing I hate.

y?

Not the games that are "MOBA"s, but the abbreviation itself.

han ok

Multiplayer Online Battle Arena

yes, it's quite horrible

The genre of 90% of online games.

Multiplayer Online Battle Arena reminds me of Star Wars: Battlefront.

What was wrong with AoS? The original name for the genre?

What did AoS stand for?

Attack on Stronghold?

Aeon of Strife

Apparently, Aeon of Strife.

jinx

lol nerd

I'm no mere nerd.

I'm the king of nerds!

true

;D

@William'MindWorX'Mariager I dispute that figure.

Why?!

I just made it up. What do you have against it? :(

MMOs and FPSs can't comprise only 10% of all online games.

:)

:P

i never found aeon of strife. wanted to try it

oh shit

hence the name Strife for the new S2 game

Isn't it Eul, the original DotA and AoS guy who was one of the cofounders of S2?

Ginsoo went to Riot and IceFrog went to DotA 2 I think

i looks like it could be fun

keep it up

@Tyyppi_77 looks good.

mathematicians: "That's true, if we start introducing more complicated rings, then we need to start worrying about zero divisors. (Read: if we start introducing more interesting rings, we get to start thinking about zero divisors.) "

I know that a ring is a symbol

@Almo ZERO DIVISORS EXIST/

ermgerd

Word needs to be more like Visual Studio

OOOOH vim-adventures is a pay game

I keep hitting Ctrl + E,D

after level 3 they want money

Doesn't work as expected in Word. :P

yeah

maybe if it were $5

but it's $25

Mock-up time!

(Feel free to point out how this kind of dialogue-tree-with-tooltips will never work, and why)

Good afternoon

It does seem that way. I'm linking with the development version of the SDL libs, but the symbols aren't there

Yes, that's exactly what I've done

When I break on SDL_FillRect(), I looked into pSurf and it's fine. When I step over/step into, access violation.

Right, especially since it passes if the rect is a different size.

I did notice that. I tried building SDL from source, but I can't install directX here

I've been looking around for a binary with debug symbols, but haven't yet. I was hoping Gamedev would have some advice. I searched other posts before asking, and it seemed like there were similar posts already.

wow those are a lot of macros

No, just .lib and .dll

Yeah, I'll have to do that at home when I can install the directx sdk. It doesn't build without it

Serious weak sauce.

Right. I was thinking I could restrict it to software rendering to narrow things down

Yes

Correct

E.g. 10, 10, 100, 100 does not crash

10, 10, 50, 100 does crash

It works fine and fills the entire surface

Is this a function you wrote yourself?

Is what a function, @ShotgunNinja?

whatever code is erroring out. Sorry, just dropping in.

We're discussing this question: gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/71466/…

SDL_FillRect() is crashing only on specific in puts

Which should be entirely valid

And only with palletized surfaces

Ah.

Agreed, that's where I'm looking right now

Shaq Fu Reborn

Somewhat. I've got it narrowed down to SDL_memset(), but there's a step missing.

The call stack goes from SDL_FillRect() to SDL_memset()

I thought maybe it was the way they align the memset so they can do 4-bye copies

But that doesn't seem to be it. A width of 64, 65, 66, 67 all work. 49, 50, 51 all crash

I'm going to just cut n' paste SDL_FillRect1 and define it locally

It doesn't do anything special

@hasherr that's because it was 3AM when I posted that

there are different timezones on this planet

I'm usually kept up until morning by things like having to code something; if not, I go to sleep

having a discussion with a 15 year old about email addresses is not one of the things that I'd say would keep me up

And that does not crash! Fascinating.

@JoshPetrie to my defense, it's an @ymail.com address

so it doesn't spell out Yahoo

I'll replace it with [email protected] soon enough

yup

Thanks for the help, anyway

I can't believe I'm the only one who's come across this on the whole internet

In terms of professionalism, whats the gmail vs ymail split?

nobody I know IRL ever heard of ymail

as in @ymail.com

In regular occupations, there's no difference; but in tech-related industries, gmail is seen as neutral, and ymail is seen as slightly unprofessional or outdated.

I know a lot of people using it

ymail is Yahoo.

it's bad because of this trend there's no way for companies like yahoo or microsoft to get back on track

even if they resolve their issues

as I hear, the new hotmail (whatever it's called) is actually great

Same with AOL. They're seen as outdated, because of their userbase.

Change up the management, shake things up and they'll be ok. (Yahoo et Microsoft)

If your user base achieves a reputation as incompetent, then your product will quickly be seen as outdated.

@Noctrine I doubt that

AOL owns so many things that people don't recognize readily.

even Josh was "yahoo isn't professional" the moment he saw it

@yahoo.com :p

I think they are still in the middle of the shakeup :p

iv'e been using my yahoo.com address since about 1996

I believe in them!

Well, Google has their reputation behind them, and Yahoo! tarnished theirs in the 90s with cheezy ad spots and silly slogans.

^

mine'

mine's pretty simple

[email protected]

would have been almo, but it was taken :(

It took me forever to figure out what I wanted my professional personal email to be

almo is a last name in sweden, I think

Mine is my shortened first name followed by my last name, at gmail.

I have a very distinct last name.

I used me@me

and work@me

I also have throwaway account [email protected]

I'll do an [email protected] eventually

Why not now! Be the change in the world for tomorrow today!

unity's insistence on managing assets is annoying me

it just deleted something

not now, now I must code things

had scene A and B, I wanted to switch their names

so I did

C->B

and it ended up deleting one of them because it got confused in deleting and renaming the files

gog.com/game/harvester

harvester is now on gog

it's a very fucked up game

and once you get to the end, you'll realize it's even more fucked up than you thought

Seems weird. ;o

But not sucking on dirty diaper's, weird.

Ah hah! Found it

Copied the SDL_FillRect1SSE() over

Yup. The violation is at SDL_memset in that function. Working on why. The pointer and values being passed in all look good

oh weird. If I copy SDL_memset locally, the crash goes away. It must be the way it's being pulled in, then

That's what I thought, but everything is totally valid

And if I replace SDL_memset with memset(), it's fine

It's only when I use the version imported from the library that it crashes. Like the symbol is being imported wrong

But it's being used elsehwere with no issues. That's so weird.

@Grey it is your responsibility to come up with an awesome name which I approve of to replace Todders

AlexanderLeGrande

taken from Alexander De Large

oh no

one of my good college friends has lost it. He thinks Sandy Hook was a "staged event".

o_0

oh boy

sucks when that happens

I've seen quite a few of my friends lose their mental facilities while in college

there is so no arguing with people who believe CTs.

What is his reasoning?

He lost it when he got a C, his parents cut off his support, and he moved to Denver to become an Emerald in Amway. Ever since, he hasn't been the same. I think because of exposure to the Tapes.

Not sure what his reasoning is. Was in a comment on Facebook

what's an emerald, aside from the precious stone thing

Amway is a multi-level marketing scheme.

Emerald refers to a certain level of business going through your account.

Amway is one of the original MLMs, and is pretty-well evil.

they are only barely legal.

otherwise, it functions kind of like a Ponzi scheme.

amirunningxp.com

@ToddersLegrande soon.

you can sell products to customers, or get people to sell products to customers and you get a cut. and you get a cut of what people they get to sell do.

perrymarshall.com/1992/amway-tapes

is this related?

in practice what happens is people low on the line buy the stuff to use themselves, since it may help their business in the long run

but the shit's overpriced. so it seems very little product is sold outside the pyramid, making it function like a ponzi scheme

yeah that's it alex

what's worse is the associated motivation tapes business

at least I've heard that part is worse

hard to say from the outside

I've read quite a lot about this subject

polygon.com/2014/3/6/5478252/…

I guess if you weren't in the mobile division you got screwed.

wow man

"In a recent financial statement, Disney revealed that Disney Interactive revenues were up 38 percent in Q1 2014, year-over-year."

i got laid off from autodesk because their profits were up 4% instead of the projected 7%

You worked for Auto Desk?

7% of their workforce went

Wow. I can see why starting your own studio is helpful these days. Do Game Devs have a Labor Union(not even sure that's a thing)

@Grey Contribution Margins cut deep.

yeah

Alex: you know if caching the transform in a game object to prevent this.transform lookups helps?

it looks to us like (despite unity docs saying we should) that it wouldn't help much

@Almo I've heard of caching but I'm not too sure what it means :o

cache this cache that cache the things

most components in Unity go through a lookup when you refer to them with . notation

yep

but Transform seems special, as all objects have only one, and it's always the zeroth item in the list