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18:00
i dont believe any thing is wrong with the link @prototypical but your defensive attitude towards some one asking why you chose that over drop box seemed to touch a nerve on you
so, why @byte56 decided to remove the link. I'm not sure.
the link is still there
boy I'll stay outta this one. sounds like a mess
it's not
at this point, I wouldn't blame him for removing it.
18:00
yeah me neither
@IcyDefiance he already did once. so it wouldn't surprise me
And i'm still stuck with my bug
"play 'Population Me' here" the link is still there for me
right, because i put it back because he removed it
testing again. :( whole week
18:01
for some reason that is not really clear
i miss dedicated qc at ubi
ok well no that wasnt made clear to me xD
@dave well, byte56 is not really being straight. i get that
@Almo sup
that was apparent early on
18:03
hey alex
hiya
just testing my work right now
just yours right?
no for the job
hey guys don't you hate it when you make a can of juice and it foams so much that it fills half of the can
18:03
you made it sound like you have to test everything everyone did :O
well the link is back now so lets just move on new subject and relax
will be able to say what it is soon
@Lasse i do when its a beer doing that
I just made some juice and it did that. Damn.
the trick is to tip your glass as you pour so it doesn't bubble
aka lower the turbulence
18:04
Yeah I forgot to do that
I took care of it. I removed my game.
-_-
lol
trololol
@prototypical dude
18:06
lol
so sore
just leave him, honestly
I love it
@prototypical just do whatever suits you with your game. That still does not make you in any better position in this argument over something that didn't exist
no you're giving him the attention he's been whoring for
@JohnMcDonald congrats on the t-shirt xD
18:06
:( I didn't want to win this way
oh I don't care about giving him attention if it makes him do things like removing his own submission. It only hurts himself, and it's hilarious.
@JohnMcDonald would you have preferred a battle with a troll?
well you were first anyway you won through your own creativity
its a good win
@johh you are a nice person, and only one who seemed to be passionate about the process.
18:08
i think next game jam should be promoted months in advance
for the summer or something
the next jam is the winter jam :D
aww but im busy this winter!
@dave promotion.. that's just silly.
i dont mean "pay for adverts"
i mean spreading the word etc
you can't be busy for 3 whole months
18:08
alright, im out. I'll let the trololol etc continue. I
Bye
@dave you mean like linking games to here ??
18:09
au revoir
noooo go awaaaaay
ja ne
@prototypical i don't oppose it
i only opposed your tantrum over it xD
man I feel like such a micklh sometimes
18:09
@dave it's not a tantrum. i'm asking why he removed it
deleting your entry is not a tantrum ?
@AlexM. I only wish he was here. It would be fun to watch.
@dave no, it's knowing that something isn't worthwhile
that is apparent
@Dave let him leave already
we've taken enough of his time
you're still talking a lot for it not being worthwhile
18:10
but it was a good entry in my opinion
i dont want him to leave!
it would be disrespectful to waste any more of it
I'm fully willing to disrespect him :D
this is suppose to be friendly we welcome as many peeps as possible
we can get through this drama :P
@alex - that is the vibe you all give to newcomers.
18:11
newgrounds is crap
@Dave usually, yes. I've never told a person to leave this chat until now.
his entry wasn't crap and that what matters
I even like Mick, and that's saying something
@prototypical yes, it's a disco-vibe
OOH YEAH SHAKE THAT BOOTY
TIME FOR THE DANCE
18:12
@Dave passion for making games etc, wasn't the reason byte56 did what he did
TIME FOR THE SLAM
PROTOTYPICAL GTFO
and that's cool
@prototypical well thats between you two to discuss in a private chat which would of avoided this entire mess in main chat xD
oh the silence. finally.
damn it you broke it
18:15
sorry
damnit lasse
you just had to break it
*lasso's @Lasse
look at it, shattered all over the floor
silences have feelings too you know
THIS ONE EVEN HAD KIDS
@prototypical Deleted? Is it really that big of a deal?
oh the horror
18:15
kids? oh shi-
byte summoned him back
THE PORTAL IS OPENING AGAIN
dr who will turn up soon to fix it
LET'S PUSH HIM BACK, THERE'S NO TIME TO WASTE
Deleted his entry...
@Byte56 Could you restore it? Just for the sake of more fun pointless argumenting that it would cause.
18:16
LOL that would be awesome
you should rehost his game
on...
mega.com
somebody should make a new language that would work with entity systems :)
^ dude that is so offtopic
I'll unhold it, create another entry of my own, then hold it again.
@IcyDefiance you're right if the guy who won't be named was also here, it would be out of control
18:17
Using that game!
and change the graphics...not the gameplay, just the graphics...to something like ponies
@Kikaimaru lol you've missed so much xD
i'm cool with that.
i'll put some advertising in it
if its un-deleted will the votes have gone ?
18:18
@Dave Votes remain.
undelete it @prototypical has calmed down :P
treasure those pennies for what they took to earn
Is it really to the point where if you can't have it on newgrounds you won't have it at all?
@IcyDefiance :O
no, the point is why did you do that ?
18:19
@prototypical YES
SHOW US MORE FRUSTRATION
i'm not frustrated
yes you are
i'm just trying to understand it at all
you frustrated little attention whore you
yep, pretty frustrated
18:19
I think i came here in a wrong time :)
@Kikaimaru yep, but you can join if you want, it's kind of fun
alex, you are just a troll i get that
@Kikaimaru yes lol
@Kikaimaru would you like some tea until this is done? :D
@kikaimar is likely making a game. we all should be
18:20
@prototypical nope, I organized the jam in large parts
@AlexM. if you were micklh, you'd be on my ignore list already.
im working on one atm
@prototypical ooh, your argument dismissals are getting less creative. running out of energy to just ignore things now?
I'll just grab some popcorn as is a custom on internet in these situation
and my aim was to make a fun jam
18:20
so that makes you not a troll ?
haha
alex is prickly, but he's no troll.
I reverted the link because you were trolling about your motivation. That's suspicious to me. I found no problem with hosting it on dropbox, so I don't think reverting it diminished your entry at all (I think it improved it).
yeah Alex was the reason this jam happened
@AlexM. had a strange childhood hes forgiven :D
if, someone comes by and tries to do something that's not pro-jam, then by all means, I won't like it
18:21
he was a stripper at 6
alex, it was fun. the aftermath of what happened was just ugly really
but, you are a part of that aftermath just as much as byt56
thats why private chat is best option
your attention whoring and this silly and pointless newgrounds affiliation thing is so bad
@prototypical the aftermath was entirely caused by you, bro
if you confront in main chat people will join in
18:22
naw.. i like the open forum.
so please
stop here
but it was between you and byte really
if you want to keep the game on, keep it; if you don't, don't keep it
I mean, if you keep it we gain another game
nah, don't stop quite yet. 8 minutes until my shift ends, and then it can stop.
hes already removed it alex
18:22
if you don't keep it, we lost an attention whore
it's... not a huge loss
you need to understand that you removing it affects only yourself
lets not go with name calling ;)
not us
alex.. you are no loss i get the troll thing you are doing
you realize calling someone a troll does nothing to diminish his points, right?
18:23
also I can't be a loss, because I didn't participate and didn't intend to participate
@IcyDefiance you are a troll too. i get that
it's like calling someone who would have never bought your game a loss to your profits
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ the table is now flipped. that concludes the end of this drama!
@IcyDefiance your only goal is to escalate it. but i'm not escalating. i'm trying to discuss why it happened
I only asked why you'd move from this: i.imgur.com/C3BRSCf.png to this: i.imgur.com/2yB9xWm.jpg
18:24
oh it was escalated long before I joined the discussion
I mean... open those both up and compare them.
@Byte56 you should have removed the flamebait long ago
@byte56 again.. why is that a problem ?
why did you need to even ask ?
asking why is not the same as saying its a problem
Why is asking such a problem?
18:25
he removed the post.. that's saying it's a problem
you are acting like you just asked
I didn't remove anything.
that's not the case
you did
I reverted it to your previous link.
you removed the link and that is what started all this
you mean the link not the entry
18:26
no.. i did
you removed it
you didn't ask me anything
if he did remove something, it was probably because you're an asshole, but I haven't seen anything removed. he only changed it. completely different.
you just removed it
? I changed it back to your previous link. If I didn't that was an accident.
@IcyDefiance see.. you just troll.
can we avoid name calling we already have one user who has issues with hurling names at people
18:27
oh no you didn't!
OMG! Three rows of users in here! IT'S A NEW RECORD!
@prototypical are you saying that when @Byte56 edited your question there was no link AT ALL to your game?
No, I'm looking at the revision history. I removed the link to newgrounds and the link to drop box remained.
@ToddersLegrande Three? I see four. I think that depends on the size of the window
@Lasse get some resolution, mon
18:28
no.. there was a link. i posted another with the newgrounds url
@Lasse You are probably right on the window size thing. Either way, its still the most users I've seen
big deal, don't understand why he felt the need to remove that
and now he's backpedalling i get it
@Byte56 why did you remove the newgrounds link?
you did over react though =/
@IcyDefiance I'm using the chat on half screen, the main browser is on another screen full-screened
18:28
you can't deny that
shit
i'm not overreacting. i'm discussing what the actual deal is with this gamejam
now I'm thinking about leaving because there's gonna be some escalation happening
yeah why did you removed the newsground link?
haha
i'm not escalated
18:29
deleting your game is over reacting ;)
of course not
@AlexM. Hey now. You haven't been flagged in a long time :P
@ToddersLegrande don't want to ruin that
I'm a good boy
@AttackingHobo He updated his post to include a post to newgrounds and information about the process of adding it. I didn't find that relevant to the game jam.
18:30
Can some one fill me in so I don't have to read like 40 pages of chat?
well at least we know the winter jam will have better explained rules heh
@Byte56 I fully agree with that
i told you why. I did it out of amusement. gave byte56 what he seemingly wants.
@Byte56 so publishing a game is not relevant, and you kept the only link that will go down if like more than 20 people view it
at this point, I'd be seriously surprised if proto isn't being paid by newgrounds
18:30
if he doesn't want to be straight and answer... he doesn't have to
@Byte56 but its his choice where he wants to host his game
@AttackingHobo There was no issues expressed with the link.
aaaand my shift is over. yay I get to leave now.
haha, no issues, he just removed it
haha
shit this is too exciting, I won't leave
18:31
1 min ago, by Byte56
@AttackingHobo He updated his post to include a post to newgrounds and information about the process of adding it. I didn't find that relevant to the game jam.
No issues expressed with the dropbox link.
seems straight to me
and now I'm gone
@Kikaimaru too bad he didn't use SkyDrive though, right?
so.. should I just assume that removing it meant he was ok with it ?
@AlexM. true, thats technology by microsoft thus its awesome
18:31
@Byte56 Dropbox is not for hosting, it will go down if it gets any traffic
@Kikaimaru god, I hate and love you at the same time
@Byte56 I am confused. You didn't like his newgrounds link? Or IDk what is happening
is that even possible?
A link to the "playable game" on Newgrounds seems fine. Extra fluff is just that, extra flusff and not necessary.
well next game jam will have to have a rule on acceptable hosting locations then
18:32
@attackin it's not about dropbox... or whatever. byte56 hasn't revealed his motives... yet
@AlexM. host it on skydrive? I am sure that everything is possible with Microsoft
@ToddersLegrande I called it a kitsch, yes
@Kikaimaru that should be their slogan
but he's pretty good at diverting it and just letting the hounds go :)
Can someone link me to the post that was edited changed or w/e so I can form a real oppinion
"Everything is possible, with Microsoft."
"IE will do everything you tell it to... eventually."
18:33
@AttackingHobo the game jam entry has been deleted entirely
@AlexM. except yield
@Dave I thought this might be the case since I couldn't find it.
@JohnMcDonald give it time!
@AlexM. IE is fastest internet browser!
I thought this discussion stopped couple of minutes ago, but it's still going on ;_;
18:34
@Kikaimaru damn straight it is!
i think it should be undeleted as the game was good and it was in second place
meh, I'm gonna go away for a while and check back later
altho it does seem a popularity contest if you look at the bottom entry
I liked MickLH's game
it fits his personality
18:36
i think he alienated himself which is the problem
he may be an asshole sometimes, but he is a damn clever guy
I still don't know why talking about newgrounds caused his game to be removed....
anyone have the original post?
if I were to choose someone to solve a math or programming problem, I would choose MickLH first
no proto deleted his entry out of frustration or retaliation or w.e it was
@AttackingHobo it didnt, he removed it by himself
@AttackingHobo he changed dropbox link to newsground, byte reverted that changed, he got pissed and removed his game
if i understand it correctly
18:37
correct
now you're caught up
@AttackingHobo i'm just waiting for byte56 to come clearn. other's opinions are a result of his motive.
I would too. I don't want my games being hosted on DB if I get a lot of traffic
step 3 is overreaction and step 2 seems unnecessary though
you would delete your entry over sumin so minor ? thats just silly
@AttackingHobo i doubt that it was his motivation, and if he said it byte would probably didnt have problem with it
18:38
I could get my account banned, or the link broken by dropbox
Hey, what's up guys
he needs to learn that just being clever is not enough. fitting in with others is important. It's kind of like this:
Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untravelled, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as "empty," "meaningless," or "dishonest," and scorn to use them. No matter how "pure" their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best. - Heinlein.
@Noctrine THE SKY
if byte56 had a problem with my game or anything on that post. it isn't about anything that isn't personal
the problem is now if we vote your next entry it might be a waste if u just go and delete it
18:39
he just hasn't voiced that personal aspect yet. The motive is unclear
What's wrong?
@Noctrine see @Kikaimaru post a few lines up
@Noctrine, protoypic put a newgrounds link to his game, byte reverted it to a dropbox link, so prototypic removed his game, because he doesn't want it hosted on drobox
here's the simple
What's wrong with the newgrounds link?
18:39
and byte is not explaining why he reverted it.
@Noctrine Thank goodness you've returned! Much has changed since you lived here, my friend. All was peaceful until the dark prototypical riders came and destroyed our village.
i posted a game for the gamejam
i posted a link to dropbox link
Nothing is wrong with a newgrounds link
i posted on newgrounds
added that link to my post
he removed it
@AttackingHobo drop the dropbox from it, it has nothing to do with it :)
18:40
the newgrounds link was a minor issue but a fuss was made it went dramatic and then game got deleted
i removed the dropbox link
i asked him why newgrounds was not ok
See, this is why I recommended github :\
2cool4adfreehosting
WE NEED MORE ADS
the converstaion became about newgrounds as opposed to why he removed the link at all
ADS ADS ADS ADS
18:41
@prototypical what language did you write it in
ACTUALLY FUCK ADS
the jam games should have had paid DLC
we should use some microsoft based ad system
@Dave flash
if it was about the ads. say it in your post in removing it right ?
he didnt'
check his SO account, it's all flash in answers and questions
18:42
so is it flash bias
i'm confused about the real motive here
no darling, there is no bias
we just don't like you
now pls stop
well why say that alex ? of course
lol stop trolling alex
trell
18:42
@prototypical motive is that it doesnt matter where you host your game for purposes of gamejam
as i said, i get alex, no issue with him
you don't get me dear
I'm too expensive for you
uh-huh
@Kikaimaru thats why he removed it ?
im not getting any work done xD
18:43
@Kikaimaru if it didn't matter, he'd just not do anything right ?
Yeah, I saw that.
@prototypical yeah but typos might not matter for quality of answers too but he still fixes them
@alex value isn't there, but yeah, i get your point.
I don't think changing the host makes it any less valid
it's simple. byte56 did it for a reason. he doesn't want to share
i get it
18:45
Share what?
@prototypical but i agree with you that it was unessesary, and i think that if you would just told him that you want it on newsground because its your game he wouldnt revert it
"Am available for programming/game development tutoring, you can contact me at [email protected]"
i don't think he has any motive to be actively malicious towards you
quick guys, get your kids tutored by this guy
i do tutor. what's wrong with that ?
18:45
Alex calm it down :\
haha, see troll ;)
@Noctrine c'mon, you only joined recently
divert.. etc
@prototypical im not sure if you're trying to imply that @Byte56 is trying to alter the results of the game jam at this point, he has said his reasons - if you don't agree with them thats another matter
he's been going on for hours
even byte acknowledged he's a troll
18:46
and its between you two to discuss in a private chat
I acknowledged he has low INT but there you go
@byte56 did the troll move
right now we're trying to have fun
Like I just said
I don't see any reason for him to have an ulterior motive
IIRC someone did complain that there were NSFW ads when they went to go play your game.
I know newgrounds does have those type of ads
byte56 could have private chatted me before removing it. he asked me to move from the first host in a proper way - because it had nsfw ads
18:47
I'm sorry but...
THIS CHATROOM NOW ABOUT SPIDERMAN
@prototypical so newgrounds was the third host you used?
Or the second?
all he had to say was that. i changed it right ?
@prototypical you could of PM'd him too but you decided to kick a fuss in the public room
but newgrounds.. why ?
18:48
Alex..
ok sorry
making a fuss in a public room is asking for drama
yeah, haha, i did think it was worthwhile.
:P
I like public rooms
Keeps everyone honest :p
18:48
i find it amusing that everyone just jumps in
only if it's the girls' room
When it's public you are inviting everyone to jump in :p
@prototypical that's why it's public
and all i wanted was the real motive. yet, best if he admits it to all.
Hard to have a private conversation in a public context
So yeah, I think deleting your game is over-reacting
Just because you don't trust what he says his motive is, doesn't make it untrue.
18:49
coming to a public chatroom to complain is over-reacting
well its done now
But you can also pose a sufficient counterargument to it
what does the game matter ?
first of all, we don't give a crap about your link being changed
I don't see any evidence for Byte doing anything underhanded. you're not being intentionally persecuted, proto. Just move on man.
18:50
@almo troll noted :)
I'm not trolling. It's the truth.
alex so just don't say anything
@Almo haha, he owned you
or.. troll
18:50
not
@proto, I think you need to take a chill pill. Preferably rectally.
asking alex to not say something is just fueling him :P
well that's what he's trying to do
he needs some rectal treatment, as shotgun said
Oh boy kids. Let's all just make up already
booyah
18:51
this room is out of control
see.. this is the conversation. I get that too.
contorl :D
Alex is going to have a long post-mortem to write
NOOOOOOOO
don't kill me
BUT IF YOU MUST, THEN DO IT QUICKLY
I have no regrets
for I have lived my life to the fullest
but yeah
I don't see the problem with the newgrounds link
18:52
lets change topic. and discuss the smugness of this camel:
fuck look at that camel
Or updating the information, as long as you know, you aren't updating the game.
it's a camel
This room was placed in timeout for 15 seconds; the topic of this room is "Game development discussion and other things. Please don't star trivial messages." - conversation should be limited to that topic.
That was a fancy countdown
18:53
damn that was quick 15 seconds
it went from 6 to 3 then 0
think i might add such an animation to my game chat
Ultimately though, you are going to have to trust that Byte's word is his word. I don't see an ulterior motive. Personally I probably would have just re-added it - but it's deleted, what's done is done.
Back to work
looks like someone used Time.deltaChatTime
if there was no ulterior motive. then why ?
that's the point
He said why
-_-
18:55
Explain what you think his expected ulterior motive is?
Because newgrounds looks like garbage over the fuller screen version that was previously linked
Does Byte hate you? Does he want you to leave? Does he have some long-standing grudge against you or you're people?
Have you done anything to piss him off, or to make him not like you?
haha me or my people
Byte wants a T-Shirt. Obviously.
@prototypical you're a leader of people ?
18:56
i don't know what his motive is, but it ain't what he typed
That's just you not trusting him then.
well its best to just drop it before you get a time out
This is a lot like the situation with Josh :\
@Dave he has students
that he tutors
so, you can accept that. and i can too. but i know he's not being straight about it
18:56
@Noctrine I missed that Drama :(
inside his programming & gamedev van
For a moment, I was beginning to think that you and Alex were the same person :p
Need more Drama
something happened with Josh i wondered why he wasnt online much
so why would i trust him ?
18:56
I have not seen a situation where Byte wasn't straight about things.
i missed alot :(
@Noctrine wait who
you just have @Noctrine
He has no reason not to be.
I'm not like prototypical damnit
do I look like a prototype
18:57
you told me that it wasn't a good reason to remove the link. when questioned he backpedaled and didn't use that reason
sorry.. should i trust that ?
@AlexM. You were the first prototype
@AlexM. maybe hes your prototype!
I'm polymorphic
What was his second reason?
I turn into cats ffs
18:58
Alex, you have a tendency to think people are trying to troll you when they simply don't agree with you.
seriously back to game dev, do you all hate prototypical inheritance as much as i do?
he wanted to know WHY i posted it on newgrounds and insinuated that i had an alterior motive
this is all i've done for the last 3 hours because of the drama:
That's not a second reason, that's questioning your motivation
i told him my motive and he persisted on many different angles
18:58
It is, essentially what you are doing.
@Noctrine cmon mine is like a lite version
What was you're motive?
his is full featured with all DLC included
well, if the first issue was good -- why do you need to ask me ?
why not ask me.. then remove ?
@Noctrine wasn't the time out suppose to signify change of topic ???
18:59
I'm asking you what you told him after that.
I already told you how I felt about it.
you can twist it any way you like. the question was valid, and i get it
because this is a community-managed site
but, it wasn't the case and he could have just asked it to begin with
anyone can edit and change anything

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